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CrazyCoolie
Gallente The Orion Pirates
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Posted - 2007.02.09 21:30:00 -
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I have a Vexor and just bbought a Thorax. Did I make a mistake? Should I keep both ships or get rid of one?
And last but not least which one is better?
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Phoeneix HUN
Elite Reunion
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Posted - 2007.02.09 21:37:00 -
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Depend on your skills. The Vexor are better with good drone skills, as the thorax with good gunnery skills.
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Blood Raine
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:07:00 -
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With lower skills the vexor is better. However, the thorax benefits more than the vexor from better skills and fittings, so as you get tech 2 medium drones and a full tech 2 setup the thorax gets to be slightly better than a vexor for PVP.
For NPC work the vexor is better simply because it can switch damage types.
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Gwydion Telcontar
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:12:00 -
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I've been using a vexor for missions, a thorax for fleet combat. They seem to work well in their specific roles.
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smallgreenblur
Minmatar Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:40:00 -
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I kill both in a ruppie, does that help? :)
sgb
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Samirol
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:02:00 -
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both are good pvp ships, depending on your setup yarr |

Arian Snow
The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: Arian Snow on 10/02/2007 01:21:04 Edited by: Arian Snow on 10/02/2007 01:20:20
Originally by: Blood Raine Edited by: Blood Raine on 09/02/2007 22:22:55 With lower skills the vexor is better. However, the thorax benefits more than the vexor from better skills and fittings, so as you get tech 2 medium drones and a full tech 2 setup the thorax gets to be slightly better than a vexor for PVP.
Thats just plain wrong!
The Vexor benefits greatly from good drone skills. Also the Vexor can put out an incredible amount of dps at range... if you have the skills for it. Arbitrator and Vexor are the most skillintensive cruisers around! And they shine with t2 drones and EWAR. Thorax better than a Vexor for pvp pfft (selfcensorship)...
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Destr0math
Tritanium Workers Union
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Posted - 2007.02.10 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Arian Snow Edited by: Arian Snow on 10/02/2007 01:21:04 Edited by: Arian Snow on 10/02/2007 01:20:20
Originally by: Blood Raine Edited by: Blood Raine on 09/02/2007 22:22:55 With lower skills the vexor is better. However, the thorax benefits more than the vexor from better skills and fittings, so as you get tech 2 medium drones and a full tech 2 setup the thorax gets to be slightly better than a vexor for PVP.
Thats just plain wrong!
The Vexor benefits greatly from good drone skills. Also the Vexor can put out an incredible amount of dps at range... if you have the skills for it. Arbitrator and Vexor are the most skillintensive cruisers around! And they shine with t2 drones and EWAR. Thorax better than a Vexor for pvp pfft (selfcensorship)...
True. True. Vexor is probably #1 or #2 solo t1 cruiser, incredibly versatile. Only match I can think of is Rupture.
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Karasu Kaizoku
Caldari Project Mortormis
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Posted - 2007.02.10 05:14:00 -
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Vexor - Drones.
Thorax - Hull hugging, teeth bashing action.
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Vexor - Solves things the Gallente (French) way, by letting others (drones) do the job. Which means you should at least have T2 drone skills to fly this. 2 Heavy 2 Med 1 Small (75 M^3)
Thorax - Needs good gunnery and armour skills to fight well in but I have seen them take out battleships.
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Samirol
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.02.10 05:23:00 -
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thorax, go up and kick them in the teeth
vexor, stay back and be a ***** and nos them
thorax > vexor IMO if you have good skills
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Michayel Lyon
The Corporation
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Posted - 2007.02.10 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: smallgreenblur I kill both in a ruppie, does that help? :)
I take that as a challenge. See you in-game. 
--- Lasiverin Dark > Is everyone here allied? Red Knight > we are allied by our zombie like ability to ***** missions |

Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.11 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Karasu Kaizoku Vexor - Solves things the Gallente (French) way, by letting others (drones) do the job.

Nanovexor ftw.
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CrazyCoolie
Gallente Lucky Hydra Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.12 03:13:00 -
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Well i have been flying my thorax of late. 4x Heavy Electron Blasters 1x medium nos 1x Webber 1x Scrambler 1x cap booster 2x medium armor reps 1x warp stab 1x damge control 1x power grid upgrade
Any suggestions for a better setup?
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ForeverKnight
Caldari World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.12 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: ForeverKnight on 12/02/2007 03:15:45 Ummm first off you need a microwarpdrive if you want to use blasters. Secondly if you have the capbooster you don't need the nos, thirdly you don't have a plate on that setup. I think you can squeeze in a 1600mm plate setup with heavy electrons, but personally I've always stuck to a light neutron setup with plate, MWD, and cap booster.
EDIT: oh and on a cruiser, a plate does you more good than a second repper in 99% of cases.
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Ennis Metara
Gallente JASDIP
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Posted - 2007.02.13 01:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ennis Metara on 13/02/2007 01:56:39 And you didn't mention the obvious: Dump the warp core stablizer. A Thorax isn't so expensive that you should be afraid to lose it.
1600mm plate is a matter of taste. Better resistance usually trumps more hp, and not using a plate will get better performance from the microwarpdrive.
edit: Whether you use a plates or hardeners depends largely on how long your fights tend to go. That's a PvP setup, so figure on most fights being over fairly quickly, unless you're tanking sentries at a gate camp.
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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.02.13 03:07:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 13/02/2007 03:03:27 Why ppl get vexor as nos boat =_=
4x75mm 1xmed nos mwd/scram/web 1600mm plate, 3xhard
2heavy 2med 1light drone.
Cheap, dish awesome dps and its good tanked -------- Don't like my post ? Mail me Flamedrone II belonging to Valandril perfectly strikes you, wrecking your topic.
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mematar
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.02.13 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Michayel Lyon I take that as a challenge. See you in-game. 
I take you on 
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Divine Misconception
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Posted - 2007.02.13 07:25:00 -
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vex: NosaPassaVex 2x med nos 3x small nos ab ii, scram, web 1600mm plate, sar, eanm, active explo
Gankavex 4x heavy neut mwd,scram,web mar, eanm, 2x mfs need pg rig for me
GankaThorax 5x nuet mwd scram web 3x mfs, mar ii, dcu ii
Tankarax 5x lite nuet mwd scram web 1600mm, sar ii, 2x eanm, dcu ii
Middileax 5x ion mwd scram web 800mm, mar, eanm, active explo, mfs ii\dcu ii
Thorax is better. Setups for each. Don't change them, if you do, you're wrong. -------------------------------- Coke Habit. |

ForeverKnight
Caldari World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.13 19:56:00 -
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I change them to include a cap booster for the tank setup instead of the web. 
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Rooker
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.13 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Divine Misconception
GankaThorax 5x nuet mwd scram web 3x mfs, mar ii, dcu ii
I'm not seeing how you fit all that. With Eng 5 and AWU 5, 5 heavy neutrons leave about 115 grid, unless Quickfit isn't applying skills properly. ---
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Khavi Vetali
Team Americas Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.13 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: Khavi Vetali on 13/02/2007 21:18:26
Originally by: Divine Misconception
Thorax is better. Setups for each. Don't change them, if you do, you're wrong.
Seeing as a few of those setups don't even remotely fit...I can't see how you're in the right.
Also, properly piloted and setup, Vexor > Thorax. Sometimes not as fun, but much more versatile and powerful.
Originally by: Itanis "Hello there mate, I'm dreadfully sorry, but I'm going to have to sodomize you with howitzers. Have a lovely day!"
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Divine Misconception
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Posted - 2007.02.13 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Khavi Vetali Edited by: Khavi Vetali on 13/02/2007 21:18:26
Originally by: Divine Misconception
Thorax is better. Setups for each. Don't change them, if you do, you're wrong.
Seeing as a few of those setups don't even remotely fit...I can't see how you're in the right.
Also, properly piloted and setup, Vexor > Thorax. Sometimes not as fun, but much more versatile and powerful.
Notice I said rigs, explicitly. If you don't even feel like reading what I posted, do the same with posting about it.
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Axitikus
Minmatar Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2007.02.14 07:17:00 -
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Since it seems that almost any cruiser wihout nos will die solo in Kali:
heavy electron blaster IIx3, med nos x 2
MWD, Web, Disruptor
MFS II, EANM, Energized Reactive plate II, DCU, Med rep II
5x Valkyrie II
Still puts out goodly Dps and if your opponent doesnt have nos fitted, you can run that repper for a LONG time.
Better believe that when nos gets nerfed ill will be more than happy to fit 5 guns and not feel like a matyr for a lost cause.
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