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Usharin Silverberg
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Posted - 2003.12.12 18:49:00 -
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Just an idle question, how many of the non-PvP players are getting ready for a bit of action when the new patch hits TQ? It will be interesting to see what happens, now we basicly all have to learn how to fight again....
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JackDonkey
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Posted - 2003.12.12 18:58:00 -
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(amount of new corps gearing up)=(amount of new corps gearing up) + 1
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Neamess
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Posted - 2003.12.12 19:04:00 -
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Better question still is how many non PvP corps/players will just log in every few days to keep the skills running. While having "fun" playing other games. Personally when i feel like some PvP i go play cs, non of this lag fest ganking that is known as eve. |
Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2003.12.12 19:06:00 -
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How many players are going to be flying cruisers or frigates in PvP for the first week of the new patch?
*raises hand*
BW
 Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2003.12.12 19:07:00 -
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(amount of new corps gearing up)=(amount of new corps gearing up) + 1
I think you can say
(amount of new corps gearing up)++
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Lidza
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Posted - 2003.12.12 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lidza on 12/12/2003 19:12:04
I might be one if playing "as forced pirate" if it reveals to be more easier that playing other way.
I'm just curious to see these changes...
The game is already hard for small corps like mine. Now with these changes I hope that doesn't reveal unplayable... because if today its difficult to have new members (new players to come to this game), after ... I hope not to see not only no new members appearing but also people giving up as atm unfortunately is happening...
But looks like that pvp isn't anymore an option... everyone will be forced to PVP once again to full fill certain lobbies. SHAME! :(
Lets see... sited back... just to see if nothing crashes on the next days (coz are too many changes in just one bang) and previous ccp patches/updates reviled more problems than the fixes that were suppose to address.
Take care
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2003.12.12 19:37:00 -
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I belive there will be more corps that will be encoraged to pvp once they can claim area (by force) and build stations, turrets, and mining platforms.
The current situation keeps a lot of corps in empire in order to build up for the eventual expantion into 0.0 space.
-BT
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.12.12 20:11:00 -
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My corp is going to switch from mining/manufacturing to a pvp corp. Thats all I have to say about that.
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Major Trucker
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Posted - 2003.12.12 20:18:00 -
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I'm greasing the Griefer wheel. I'll always say "if MWDS were not nerfed and if you had bookmarks you might have lived." I'll let haulers through though cause it's gonna be sad when I can only make one haul of bis a night instead of 3.
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Mastema
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Posted - 2003.12.12 20:30:00 -
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Next patch will kill Eve.
Research with Duvolle Laboratories or you'll end up in the meat grinder!
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.12.12 20:44:00 -
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Quote:
Next patch will kill Eve.
You're the ones who are gonna do the killing part.
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Mastema
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Posted - 2003.12.12 20:54:00 -
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Well doh...
Research with Duvolle Laboratories or you'll end up in the meat grinder!
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F4ze
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Posted - 2003.12.12 20:57:00 -
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(amount of new corps gearing up)++
o/
My corp is gearing up for sure!
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Kizz
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Posted - 2003.12.12 21:06:00 -
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More like how many non pvp corps will not travel into 0.4 or lower unless they really, really have to after next patch, welcome to an age of 'roid belts croweded with BS's frantically mining anything and pirates sitting at gates waiting patiently for the 1 or 2 at best people who HAVE to travel through 0.4-0.0, well I could be wrong, and I have been many times before, but................
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.12 21:11:00 -
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the only form of travel you can now do is in a cruiser outfited with a BS MWD, that still givse you 2km/s and only for a short time because your cap will be dead in few sec...
but hey at least you will have a chance to get out alive...
oh and those with BS's are sure not going to like this patch there 50-100million isk ships are giong to be parked now in stations, even those who used to go far out and mine will find out soon that they have to do it at speeds of 200m/s
btw this is a nerf for zero sec... more and more ppl will stay in 1.0-0.4 and its counter productive twards zero sec...
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Angst
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Posted - 2003.12.12 21:28:00 -
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\0/ \0/ CAS-TOR CAS-TOR !! 11
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gank -----Tihs iz gank bunneh. Employ at gates
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Maasu
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Posted - 2003.12.13 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: Maasu on 13/12/2003 00:14:37
Look at TTI.
It was only once they had joined the VA did they begin experimenting with PvP. Skirmishes too Obe and what not.
They had to quickly adapt, the intense ammount of PvP witnessed by TTI was unfortunatley their demise, imo.
ATUK, The Forlorn Hope of Corps. |
zincol
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Posted - 2003.12.13 00:24:00 -
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If you so badly want PVP head to FDZ and take on biomass,Hufff (Forsaken Empire)
We did and it was GREAT fun all round :-)
also won.
w00t
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Jael Markinsen
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Posted - 2003.12.13 08:35:00 -
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I strongly agree with mastema, But, let's go ahead and go with the patch and see what happens, cause you never know till you actually are in it, who knows what will work out and what won't.
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IZON
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Posted - 2003.12.13 13:16:00 -
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This kind of enforced pvp is wrong. It will come and go the way of other nerfs, so to the rats I say enjoy it while it last.
"...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!" |
Atandros
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Posted - 2003.12.13 14:10:00 -
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I see whining people...
Seriously though, adaptation is the key. You WON'T get ganked while hauling if you have escorts and scouts, organized logistics and people who know what they're doing. Large-scale hauling won't be just a trip, but an operation, like mining.
And, before someone mentions it  I doubt this will leave the little guys out as they can easily hire an escort service (uh...yeah).
The only possible downside to all this is the longer travel time, but again, this might mean using cruisers & frigs more and leaving BS's as the rare tool to be used only when it's really necessary (a good thing IMHO).
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Iam'ste
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Posted - 2003.12.13 14:24:00 -
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I think you're all a bit confused.I spend most of my time in 0.0 or <0.5 sec space, and I hardly even see pirates, let alone get attacked by them, the world is a reasonably sized place.. Of course, maybe this is cos i don't sleep and thus am on at stupid hours.. I dont know. A lot of the problems with EvE could also be sorted out if the universe was bigger.
That last sentence sounds so wrong from a physics point of view..
but anyway. That's not the point.
I know my corp will be gearing up for PvP next patch, just cos, well, It's fun and we may finally have enough resources to do it as we wish..
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The worst you can do is kill me.
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Bruen
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Posted - 2003.12.13 16:06:00 -
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I wasn't interested in PVP before and I'm not interesting in it now.
I find building and trading to be more satisfying than fighting.
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The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2003.12.13 16:35:00 -
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Ahh the thing is the 2 groups who are complaining are the people who spend 99% of their time in 0.0 PvPing or Rat hunting (including me), and the people who spend 99% of their time in 1.0 - 0.5 mining and manufacturing.
They are both annoyed because now both will have to use some of the skills of the other group.
Just remember, travel times will go up (wahey!), but distance to Bistot will go drastically down (whoo!).
Piracy will get a little easier (and therefore become more of a carreer) and therefore soloers wont be able to ninja mine in 0.0 anymore (wooohooo they shouldnt be able to)!
Instead this is like a forced teamwork patch. Youll need larger fleets but you will make more money.
Its a great idea i think, but the fine tuning will require some effort.
To the indy drivers: You were supposed to be a support vehicle, if Indy driving solo is gonna be nerfed its becasue it SHOULD be nerfed.
Noone drives a 18wheeler full of gold through downtown Baghdad without escorts, and noone expects the 100tonne tank escorting it to go as fast as some motorcycle outriders.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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Lord Azraiel
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Posted - 2003.12.13 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Azraiel on 13/12/2003 19:33:30
Why are people so unwilling to pvp? I mean really. Is it the fear of death? Why do some people avoid pvp like the plague and work for it to not even exist? Cmon. This is going to make pvp easier to engage in, and thus the game more fun. It will also give us mercenaries a chance to have a market for our skills to be bought by those who cannot defend or attack for themselves.
It just boggles my mind to see people so unwilling to engage in pvp and to work for its utter demise. I can understand not wanting to lose weeks of work completely. But I think what people dont realise is that pvp isnt that hard. Most pvper's are not uber leet people who have been playing since beta 1. Its a misconception created by those who do get killed by people, hate the fact that they lost, blame it on some exploit and create this image that every pvp'er is uber leet and uses hacks and exploits to win. I even got accused of it during Forsaken Empire's romp around Venal. If anyone knows me real good, they will know I despise exploits and hate those who use them.
I guess im just ranting hardcore now, but it really boggles my mind as to why people get so disgruntled at having to be put at some risk, or they cant do everything themselves adn have to hire outside help to help them. Its a part of life, get used to it or quit for the love of god! No one really cares what you think, well i cant say no one, but i do know that some or most of us dont give a rats ass and we will play eve until it does fall.! end rant
edit: added paragraphs
"I'm comin' for ya, and Hell's comin' with me!" |
Dianabolic
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Posted - 2003.12.13 19:50:00 -
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Ahh the thing is the 2 groups who are complaining are the people who spend 99% of their time in 0.0 PvPing or Rat hunting (including me), and the people who spend 99% of their time in 1.0 - 0.5 mining and manufacturing.
They are both annoyed because now both will have to use some of the skills of the other group.
Just remember, travel times will go up (wahey!), but distance to Bistot will go drastically down (whoo!).
Piracy will get a little easier (and therefore become more of a carreer) and therefore soloers wont be able to ninja mine in 0.0 anymore (wooohooo they shouldnt be able to)!
Instead this is like a forced teamwork patch. Youll need larger fleets but you will make more money.
Its a great idea i think, but the fine tuning will require some effort.
To the indy drivers: You were supposed to be a support vehicle, if Indy driving solo is gonna be nerfed its becasue it SHOULD be nerfed.
Noone drives a 18wheeler full of gold through downtown Baghdad without escorts, and noone expects the 100tonne tank escorting it to go as fast as some motorcycle outriders.
Could not agree more.
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Rutherford
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Posted - 2003.12.13 20:21:00 -
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I see whining people...
Seriously though, adaptation is the key. You WON'T get ganked while hauling if you have escorts and scouts, organized logistics and people who know what they're doing. Large-scale hauling won't be just a trip, but an operation, like mining.
And, before someone mentions it I doubt this will leave the little guys out as they can easily hire an escort service (uh...yeah).
The only possible downside to all this is the longer travel time, but again, this might mean using cruisers & frigs more and leaving BS's as the rare tool to be used only when it's really necessary (a good thing IMHO).
Have you ever been in 0.0 space and faced a well trained pirate force? Something tells me you have not!
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Radigen
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Posted - 2003.12.13 20:23:00 -
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You guys will have to fill me in: What exactly is it about the next patch that will change the way PVP works...I've noticed someone mentioned the laws in 0.0 systems changing...how will it change?
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Atandros
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Posted - 2003.12.13 21:11:00 -
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I see whining people...
Seriously though, adaptation is the key. You WON'T get ganked while hauling if you have escorts and scouts, organized logistics and people who know what they're doing. Large-scale hauling won't be just a trip, but an operation, like mining.
And, before someone mentions it I doubt this will leave the little guys out as they can easily hire an escort service (uh...yeah).
The only possible downside to all this is the longer travel time, but again, this might mean using cruisers & frigs more and leaving BS's as the rare tool to be used only when it's really necessary (a good thing IMHO).
Have you ever been in 0.0 space and faced a well trained pirate force? Something tells me you have not!
Something tells me you aren't thinking beyond tactical (small zone, ie a grid) warfare. I wasn't suggesting you warp in and start shooting and thus OMG PWNZ0R TH3M 1NST4NTLY!!11!.
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Atandros
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Posted - 2003.12.13 21:13:00 -
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Ahh the thing is the 2 groups who are complaining are the people who spend 99% of their time in 0.0 PvPing or Rat hunting (including me), and the people who spend 99% of their time in 1.0 - 0.5 mining and manufacturing.
They are both annoyed because now both will have to use some of the skills of the other group.
Just remember, travel times will go up (wahey!), but distance to Bistot will go drastically down (whoo!).
Piracy will get a little easier (and therefore become more of a carreer) and therefore soloers wont be able to ninja mine in 0.0 anymore (wooohooo they shouldnt be able to)!
Instead this is like a forced teamwork patch. Youll need larger fleets but you will make more money.
Its a great idea i think, but the fine tuning will require some effort.
To the indy drivers: You were supposed to be a support vehicle, if Indy driving solo is gonna be nerfed its becasue it SHOULD be nerfed.
Noone drives a 18wheeler full of gold through downtown Baghdad without escorts, and noone expects the 100tonne tank escorting it to go as fast as some motorcycle outriders.
Could not agree more.
Yep.
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