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Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:07:00 - [1] I just wanted to state for the record that KOS is still in this fight despite the lowly chatter we receive from our rivals in 0.0 ITS TIME oh...and I bet LV is so sure they will win....just as sure as RA was beaten and Cache was safe....eh boys? I'm sure we all remember when that was on the threads.. Despite that....GF and GL to all -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Vasili Z Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:08:00 - [2] So if RA starts losing is KOS gonna NAP LV to get their stuff out before they die or what
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:13:00 - [3] Originally by: Vasili Z So if RA starts losing is KOS gonna NAP LV to get their stuff out before they die or what That is the basic gist of it, yeah. --------
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:18:00 - [4] Edited by: Khirzan Wolfson on 10/02/2007 09:15:36 haha.....LV never followed their word..never had honor. RA & Friends have proven their friend status over and over...say what you want, I fight who ****es me off more. LV is target numero uno harr harr harr harr -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:19:00 - [5] I am in a KOs treadh!!!!!!! LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:20:00 - [6] Originally by: Emrod I am in a KOs treadh!!!!!!! -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:22:00 - [7] Originally by: Vasili Z So if RA starts losing is KOS gonna NAP LV to get their stuff out before they die or what oh but.....do u forget what happened when that did...oh yah, LV and V war dec their allies cuz they were ****ed off that they were losing their "meatshields" LV can go sod off....and know your history before you try to belittle something -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:27:00 - [8] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson Originally by: Vasili Z So if RA starts losing is KOS gonna NAP LV to get their stuff out before they die or what oh but.....do u forget what happened when that did...oh yah, LV and V war dec their allies cuz they were ***ed off that they were losing their "meatshields" LV can go sod off....and know your history before you try to belittle something stop saying the true...they hate that! LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006*
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:29:00 - [9] haha i forgot that....LV guys never liked me cuz i speak the truth....someone has to, or the propaganda of the forums might catch ya kk im goin to bed to see what is said while i sleep...i bet it will be all flamey when i get back.... -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Jargoon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:39:00 - [10] Edited by: Jargoon on 10/02/2007 09:35:41 KOS is GOS (glomp on sight) to GS

Victor Merren The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:44:00 - [11] Edited by: Victor Merren on 10/02/2007 09:41:45 For translation of "glomp": Linkage V.
Xordus Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:44:00 - [12] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson Originally by: Vasili Z So if RA starts losing is KOS gonna NAP LV to get their stuff out before they die or what oh but.....do u forget what happened when that did...oh yah, LV and V war dec their allies cuz they were **ed off that they were losing their "meatshields" LV can go sod off....and know your history before you try to belittle something Um... Why is it so hard to understand that when you napped the enemy, you were no longer an ally..... We were there buddy, we are aware of history. LV/V gave you a place to live, you couldn't defend it so you gave it to RAGOON in exchange for safe passage. It was supposed to be a big secret too lol. You didn't wanna ** off the big boys. You guys are a pure comedy.
Touk Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:55:00 - [13] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson I just wanted to state for the record that KOS is still in this fight despite the lowly chatter we receive from our rivals in 0.0 ITS TIME oh...and I bet LV is so sure they will win....just as sure as RA was beaten and Cache was safe....eh boys? I'm sure we all remember when that was on the threads.. Despite that....GF and GL to all ive said it before and ill say it again. KOS are the most usless excuse for an alliance to have ever graced the server. if i accomplish one thing during this war it will be to expose your lot as the backstabbing, *****in bunch of lowlifes you really are. We may be at war with RA but atleast we can respect them and they deserve better allies than you lot. FreeHugs
HydroSan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:55:00 - [14] Edited by: HydroSan on 10/02/2007 09:52:37 Originally by: Xordus Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson Originally by: Vasili Z So if RA starts losing is KOS gonna NAP LV to get their stuff out before they die or what oh but.....do u forget what happened when that did...oh yah, LV and V war dec their allies cuz they were **ed off that they were losing their "meatshields" LV can go sod off....and know your history before you try to belittle something Um... Why is it so hard to understand that when you napped the enemy, you were no longer an ally..... We were there buddy, we are aware of history. LV/V gave you a place to live, you couldn't defend it so you gave it to RAGOON in exchange for safe passage. It was supposed to be a big secret too lol. You didn't wanna ** off the big boys. You guys are a pure comedy. When GS were fighting KOS, our spies were telling us that KOS was hoping that LV/-V- would show up and help them out, because they were simply overwhelmed by our numbers. When LV/-V- didn't show up or offer any support at all (I don't remember a single -V- or LV member in KOS space when we were there), they realized they had lost, and NAPed us so they could get their stuff out. It wasn't KOS's fault. They couldn't deal with the numbers that GS puts into their wars/invasions, and LV/V offered no support. LV/V setting KOS KOS (kill on sight) proved to them that LV/V were worthless, fair weather allies. LV has a long history of letting their allies down: ERA, for example, was left out to dry by LV when ERA needed their help in Cache taking on Red Alliance. Did LV promise them support? Of course. Did they actually do anything? Of course not. Fighting Veristas Immortalis was the same way. Yes, LV brought out their Titan for the first time and their T2 snipers, but once 1v- was captured by RA, GS and TCF, LV basically never showed up in any significant force until Veristas was driven out to Great Wildlands, and then to 7-K in the drone regions, where GoonSwarm then destroyed their last POS. IIRC, Chowdown even called Veristas "worthless" in some leaked logs, before Veristas had even lost half of Scalding Pass. The fact is, LV don't seem to care about anyone except themselves, and on top of that, they're arrogant. Is it any wonder why KOS/ex-Veristas people want a piece of them now?
Touk Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 10:03:00 - [15] yes yes, of course. i mean why would we expect an alliance to be able to defend itself and its space (space that we took for them in the first place) and the whole ERA thing......they were put into cache witht he understanding that it would be thier responsablity to defend it. that was the deal with anyone we put into a region....they must be able to defend it themselves. But no...KOS couldnt defend themselves from a light rain fall. They 'gave' you lot the stations and the entire region for one simple reason....they cant hack it. i was always under the impression that to live in 0.0 you have to be able to defend yourself against attacks.....maybe i was wrong eh ?!!!!! FreeHugs
Saldio Banderas Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 10:10:00 - [16] Originally by: Touk i was always under the impression that to live in 0.0 you have to be able to defend yourself against attacks.....maybe i was wrong eh ?!!!!!
HydroSan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 10:23:00 - [17] Edited by: HydroSan on 10/02/2007 10:20:56 Edited by: HydroSan on 10/02/2007 10:20:10 Originally by: Touk yes yes, of course. i mean why would we expect an alliance to be able to defend itself and its space (space that we took for them in the first place) and the whole ERA thing......they were put into cache witht he understanding that it would be thier responsablity to defend it. that was the deal with anyone we put into a region....they must be able to defend it themselves. But no...KOS couldnt defend themselves from a light rain fall. They 'gave' you lot the stations and the entire region for one simple reason....they cant hack it. i was always under the impression that to live in 0.0 you have to be able to defend yourself against attacks.....maybe i was wrong eh ?!!!!! They gave us their space because they were under the impression that being "allied" with Lotka Volterra meant that if they got into a situation they couldn't handle that you'd come and help them out. Being allied with someone means that you help them out. When you guys let them down by offering zero support to them, your supposed "allies", they decided that they had been screwed by you guys, and then NAPed us because they saw it as their only option to survive as an alliance. -V- couldn't hack it either, I gather? Despite putting absolutely everything they could into it? Yeah, it's kind of hard going up against three alliances all by yourself. KOS learned that as well. At least they've learned from their mistakes - namely, being allied with LV - and now they're supporting RA/TCF/GS/IAC/D2/etc. etc. etc. etc. in our war effort. They're cool dudes, it's a damn shame your alliance had to brush them off as not being able to "hack it." If LVs arrangement with KOS was that of a non-aggression pact, then you should've called it that instead instead of leading KOS on and then hanging them out to dry when being "allied" with them didn't suit your alliances style/mood/whatever. But I guess that was the point - leading them on, so they could fill space you didn't really want, and so your alliance boast about the mighty "Southern Coalition" on these forums. Oh, I'm sorry, what did ever happen to the "Southern Coalition"? Gone turncoat or disbanded. A million other players will say this during this upcoming war, but karmas a *****.
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A	Posted - 2007.02.10 10:35:00 - [18] I repeat it again. Due to the fact I was in KOS at the start of the whole RA war. After we saw RA spamming POSs like nutz, we ALL (KOS/V/LV/ERA/UCC) agreed to have at least a 50% large dstar POS coverage in our systems to NOT have to fight at ENEMY POSs. KOS didn't do it and invited RA to spam POSs in a 22 moon system and the other 2 systems and NAPPed RA/GOON 2 days after spammage! Once a system is taken by an enemy, you have to start and draw a plan to retake the systems (which is actually pretty hard vs RA according to POSs) and not throw endless capital ships to waste em at the POSs (Yes, we actually learned of C-J and therefore made the above named agreement). But since KOS did give up by the lightest inch of aggression, we set them Kill on Sight because a) They did not fulfil their own approved agreement b) gave up in a blink of an eye time c) We offered them space to rebuild and get ready for our plans but they denied. Now read and understand (and yes, I still have the ts recordings where we talked about the POS coverage agreement) Regards x x x x x x x x x x x x x x Life's a waste of time ...
Menf Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A	Posted - 2007.02.10 10:36:00 - [19] Originally by: HydroSan KOS learned that as well. At least they've learned from their mistakes - namely, being allied with LV - and now they're supporting RA/TCF/GS/IAC/D2/etc. etc. etc. etc. in our war effort. They're cool dudes, it's a damn shame your alliance had to brush them off as not being able to "hack it." They didnt "learned". They just jumped on the next train as the same they will do if RAGOON&friends going to loose the war. The hidden knife is allready waiting to backstab you as they did before with other guys... _____________________________________________ Some players allready noticed.. "If you SEE me, its allready too late..."
Leandra Anor Minmatar Asguard Security Service Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.02.10 10:39:00 - [20] Khirzan my friend.... I lub ya but I have to say that KoS caused most of it's own problems. Maybe LV/V could have waited a smidge longer, but the point is that KoS made a nap without advising it's friends that it was a necessary thing, didn't even advise them that there was such an immediate problem, and in fact lied when asked about it! KoS consistently said that things were in place that weren't... and after having fought POS wars for how long? STILL couldn't seem to get the concept of covering all the moons and having at LEAST 1/2 as large deathstars. Demo had been fighting this war long before I came to eve and yet I saw the problem and how to solve it within months of joining KoS. We could have claimed C-J, just needed to get people out to deploy pos's.... but did we have them ready? no.... LV even provided them for us but we couldn't even manage to get people out there in a timely manner. And this was KNOWING that we were fighting to take C-J!! You forget that I was there for some of these conversations.... Many more points I could make here.... but why? when that one so perfectly covers it? I'm glad I was part of KoS if only for the fact that I learned to love pvp and 0.0 while there (part from people in KoS, part from friends in LV/V/etc), but I'm glad that my corp left when it did.... I'm thankful for the friends that I made in KoS and I'm sorry if any of you disagree with my point of view on this.... but this is how I see it from the convo's / info I was privy to. ______________________________________________ smile It makes people wonder what you've been upto!! ~And YES already... I am a RL female gamer!!~

Touk Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 10:43:00 - [21] dont even think about trying to twist my words into something they're not. typical goon, not once did i mention V in my post, i had and still have the upmost respect for most of thier pilots. Unlike V however, and as has been stated by corn (hey btw) above KOS gave up at the first sign of trouble and dint even do what was expected of them in the first place, auctully secure thier own space, it wasnt our space, it wasnt V's space...it was KOS's. FreeHugs
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.10 10:57:00 - [22] The problem is LV is suposed to be a very very hard alliance to figth. When they had allies they never came to help and RAGoons took down one LV's ally after one without having too much resistance from LV. By the time V was the only lasting ally of importance, LV bring one Titan to help, and a fleet in 1V-. Both were useless. And then they did nothing to help V (and there was many thuings to do). Having some ex-V in KOS is normal. Those need vengeance. But some V came to LV though I guess other motives exist than pure vengeance (loyalty ?). All LV's nap were betrayed at one time or another, just for the fun. No wonder if your ex-allies plays now against you. Now Bob's ego comes into play ? Whatever. It's allready hell here. All of us are used to it. Sir "Tick, tock." Molle said their attack against D¦ was a fake. Yeah bring more bs here mister tock, we are really scared and we feel so much the pain deep inside :D Sad the pain is for you. ----- History is made by whinners
HydroSan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 10:59:00 - [23] Did you roll out even a single fleet to help them when they needed you? Did you attempt at all to help them get their space back despite not following your POS logistics guidelines? No, KOS got silence, and then when they got a few more of their deathstars shut down, they folded. I was there in KOS space for the entire thing, and I saw how Local had not a single LV/V member in it the entire time. Friends don't let friends fall on their ass without giving them a hand to get back up. KOS hit hard times, either through action, inaction, or the actions of others. And so, the 'alliance' LV and KOS had crumbled because LV refused to help them out... because of a petty "logistics policy"? I'm sorry, you simply don't do that to allies or friends. If a friend of yours screws up, you don't just abandon them on the side of the road. You just don't do that, I don't care what your "policy" is. As for the backstabbing comments? KOS have been in many of our ops and they will continue to be invited into our space and into our ops into the distant future and we don't give a damn what you say about them.
Vasili Z Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.02.10 11:03:00 - [24] Originally by: c0rn1 I repeat it again. Due to the fact I was in KOS at the start of the whole RA war. After we saw RA spamming POSs like nutz, we ALL (KOS/V/LV/ERA/UCC) agreed to have at least a 50% large dstar POS coverage in our systems to NOT have to fight at ENEMY POSs. KOS didn't do it and invited RA to spam POSs in a 22 moon system and the other 2 systems and NAPPed RA/GOON 2 days after spammage! Once a system is taken by an enemy, you have to start and draw a plan to retake the systems (which is actually pretty hard vs RA according to POSs) and not throw endless capital ships to waste em at the POSs (Yes, we actually learned of C-J and therefore made the above named agreement). But since KOS did give up by the lightest inch of aggression, we set them Kill on Sight because a) They did not fulfil their own approved agreement b) gave up in a blink of an eye time c) We offered them space to rebuild and get ready for our plans but they denied. Now read and understand (and yes, I still have the ts recordings where we talked about the POS coverage agreement) Regards
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.10 11:03:00 - [25] Originally by: Touk Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson I just wanted to state for the record that KOS is still in this fight despite the lowly chatter we receive from our rivals in 0.0 ITS TIME oh...and I bet LV is so sure they will win....just as sure as RA was beaten and Cache was safe....eh boys? I'm sure we all remember when that was on the threads.. Despite that....GF and GL to all ive said it before and ill say it again. KOS are the most usless excuse for an alliance to have ever graced the server. if i accomplish one thing during this war it will be to expose your lot as the backstabbing, *in bunch of lowlifes you really are. We may be at war with RA but atleast we can respect them and they deserve better allies than you lot. that comment coming from a shinra member lolz! ------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance i belong to.
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.10 11:43:00 - [26] Edited by: Emrod on 10/02/2007 11:44:31 Edited by: Emrod on 10/02/2007 11:42:49 Originally by: Saldio Banderas Originally by: Touk i was always under the impression that to live in 0.0 you have to be able to defend yourself against attacks.....maybe i was wrong eh ?!!!!! QFTW lol What the Bob army actually think about this now? {{typo edit}} LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.10 12:48:00 - [27] Edited by: Plutoinum on 10/02/2007 12:49:41 Edited by: Plutoinum on 10/02/2007 12:45:49 Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn By the time V was the only lasting ally of importance, LV bring one Titan to help, and a fleet in 1V-. Both were useless. And then they did nothing to help V (and there was many thuings to do). Not really. At that point it was too late anyway, because V was broken. It looks like the whole strategy was based on over 50% moon coverage with battle star poses and playing the strontium game well that those poses come out of reinforcement in our prime time. So it was based on being there at night, when the poses where attacked to adjust strontium and at day to secure the system and recharge poses again. The problem is that it went on over many weeks that people make mistakes, that such a war is no fun, that people leave, wallets are empty etc. As a consequence, the time, when we had the upperhand, shrinked more and more and in the end with TCF and all those coming too, we really didn't have a primetime anymore, where we had the upperhand. Enemy camps on the way, when you tried to move your BS after defending one system to the next system etc. After losing 1v it was obvious that the rest will fall too, the question was just when, because there were hostile battlestar poses in those systems and like I said we were losing the upperhand in our primetime, so playing the strontium game well was unlikely to work imho. It's doesn't help much, if the poses come out of reinforcement in your primetime and you are heavily outnumbered, especially not since the HP changes. We were to weak in our primetime, we had no dreadfleet, we had lost 1v and people knew it was just a matter of days or maybe 1 or 2 weeks, until the other systems were lost, too. People were told to move assets out of Scalding Pass, but keep their combat equipment there and keep fighting. But that wasn't really happening. It was totally uncoordinated at that point and most people were just busy moving their stuff out. But it was to late anyway. The End.
nickycakes Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 14:00:00 - [28] Originally by: HydroSan Did you roll out even a single fleet to help them when they needed you? Did you attempt at all to help them get their space back despite not following your POS logistics guidelines? No, KOS got silence, and then when they got a few more of their deathstars shut down, they folded. I was there in KOS space for the entire thing, and I saw how Local had not a single LV/V member in it the entire time. I think also worth noting, KOS was rarely in numbers of over 3 or 4 in ANY coalition gang to defend ANY space, including their own. They lied about readiness, and honestly I can't remember them ever even requesting help for the incident in question. They just kinda napped with RA and rolled out behind everyone's backs. Then, to try and cover the whole thing up, screamed backstabber when we started shooting them. Anyhow, we're kinda glad they're red now. Their macro-npcing corps provide us with much entertainment (look up losses by the corp beatlrice on our killboard). These guys lose more ravens than Art Modell. Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 14:23:00 - [29] Welcome to the party
Leandra Anor Minmatar Asguard Security Service Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.02.10 16:13:00 - [30] Edited by: Leandra Anor on 10/02/2007 16:12:03 Originally by: nickycakes I think also worth noting, KOS was rarely in numbers of over 3 or 4 in ANY coalition gang to defend ANY space, including their own. Now that I have to disagree with and defend KoS on..... Yes when I first got to KoS that seemed the truth... I think I was one of 5 that were at the 1st c-j.. but after that it was much better in turn outs and typically I would see 20-30 sometimes more. For instance in defending N7- KoS had a gang of roughly 70 at times. Was this always the case? No.... but it WAS fairly typical. Originally by: nickycakes They lied about readiness, and honestly I can't remember them ever even requesting help for the incident in question. They just kinda napped with RA and rolled out behind everyone's backs. Then, to try and cover the whole thing up, screamed backstabber when we started shooting them. I would agree with this, since the high ups in LV were surprised when I convo'd them and informed them there was a problem in Q-GQ, and that KoS was falling. They had no idea that there was a need for help and nothing had been posted in the coalition defense channel either. In fact I was told about the problem in local by a former KoS member that had joined Snigg!!! I should mention that at this time I wasn't part of KoS.... by this time my corp had joined coalition friendly Alektoriphobia. ______________________________________________ smile It makes people wonder what you've been upto!! ~And YES already... I am a RL female gamer!!~

Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 16:25:00 - [31] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson Originally by: Vasili Z So if RA starts losing is KOS gonna NAP LV to get their stuff out before they die or what oh but.....do u forget what happened when that did...oh yah, LV and V war dec their allies cuz they were ****ed off that they were losing their "meatshields" LV can go sod off....and know your history before you try to belittle something No, we war decced you because you handed over stations 1 cyno from our home space WITH NO FIGHT and at the same time, LIED TO US about it.
Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 16:27:00 - [32] Originally by: HydroSan Edited by: HydroSan on 10/02/2007 09:52:37 Originally by: Xordus Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson Originally by: Vasili Z So if RA starts losing is KOS gonna NAP LV to get their stuff out before they die or what oh but.....do u forget what happened when that did...oh yah, LV and V war dec their allies cuz they were **ed off that they were losing their "meatshields" LV can go sod off....and know your history before you try to belittle something Um... Why is it so hard to understand that when you napped the enemy, you were no longer an ally..... We were there buddy, we are aware of history. LV/V gave you a place to live, you couldn't defend it so you gave it to RAGOON in exchange for safe passage. It was supposed to be a big secret too lol. You didn't wanna off the big boys. You guys are a pure comedy. When GS were fighting KOS, our spies were telling us that KOS was hoping that LV/-V- would show up and help them out, because they were simply overwhelmed by our numbers. When LV/-V- didn't show up or offer any support at all (I don't remember a single -V- or LV member in KOS space when we were there), they realized they had lost, and NAPed us so they could get their stuff out. It wasn't KOS's fault. They couldn't deal with the numbers that GS puts into their wars/invasions, and LV/V offered no support. LV/V setting KOS KOS (kill on sight) proved to them that LV/V were worthless, fair weather allies. LV has a long history of letting their allies down: ERA, for example, was left out to dry by LV when ERA needed their help in Cache taking on Red Alliance. Did LV promise them support? Of course. Did they actually do anything? Of course not. Fighting Veristas Immortalis was the same way. Yes, LV brought out their Titan for the first time and their T2 snipers, but once 1v- was captured by RA, GS and TCF, LV basically never showed up in any significant force until Veristas was driven out to Great Wildlands, and then to 7-K in the drone regions, where GoonSwarm then destroyed their last POS. IIRC, Chowdown even called Veristas "worthless" in some leaked logs, before Veristas had even lost half of Scalding Pass. The fact is, LV don't seem to care about anyone except themselves, and on top of that, they're arrogant. Is it any wonder why KOS/ex-Veristas people want a piece of them now? Goonswarm were barely even involved in the war on KOS. It was TCF for the large part. They didnt NEED help because none of the KOS systems got seiged. All that happened was KOS **** up fuelling towers, and lost an entire system overnight and then immediately surrendered. No amount of V or LV help can prevent KOS from being a bunch of incompetents.
BloodBird Gallente Curator Vis	Posted - 2007.02.10 16:37:00 - [33] Originally by: Victor Merren Edited by: Victor Merren on 10/02/2007 09:41:45 For translation of "glomp": Linkage V. LOL, lol, lololololol.... Should have known it was something like that... Wish I have a better sig than this
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 16:48:00 - [34] Originally by: nickycakes Originally by: HydroSan Did you roll out even a single fleet to help them when they needed you? Did you attempt at all to help them get their space back despite not following your POS logistics guidelines? No, KOS got silence, and then when they got a few more of their deathstars shut down, they folded. I was there in KOS space for the entire thing, and I saw how Local had not a single LV/V member in it the entire time. I think also worth noting, KOS was rarely in numbers of over 3 or 4 in ANY coalition gang to defend ANY space, including their own. They lied about readiness, and honestly I can't remember them ever even requesting help for the incident in question. They just kinda napped with RA and rolled out behind everyone's backs. Then, to try and cover the whole thing up, screamed backstabber when we started shooting them. Anyhow, we're kinda glad they're red now. Their macro-npcing corps provide us with much entertainment (look up losses by the corp beatlrice on our killboard). These guys lose more ravens than Art Modell. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA first off....since when does a raven macro-mine? We dont have any of those types in KOS. Second....3 or 4 peopel in gangs...u really are the MOST moronic person that has posted so far....KOS ran gangs of upwards of 150 members at our peak....yet LV never found any time to thank us for showing (like when we saved their necks when they put up the GB- outpost) or simply for helping put on good fights... Third. C0rn1 you know that we didnt meet that policy...yes...but you were the cause of many of the KOS blunders in the beginning of the war...If i remember u abrubtly left KOS after losing a freighter full of 20+ towers..... FOURTH: LV never gave KOS control towers that we didnt give LV first....we supplied LV with towers from the get-go. Your propaganda machine cant break through my wall of truth Lvl V!!!!!!! your PATHETIC AND I WILL LIVE IN YOUR STATIONS YOU SWINE -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Tod Klemp Gallente K-Street Project	Posted - 2007.02.10 16:53:00 - [35] Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Originally by: Touk Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson I just wanted to state for the record that KOS is still in this fight despite the lowly chatter we receive from our rivals in 0.0 ITS TIME oh...and I bet LV is so sure they will win....just as sure as RA was beaten and Cache was safe....eh boys? I'm sure we all remember when that was on the threads.. Despite that....GF and GL to all ive said it before and ill say it again. KOS are the most usless excuse for an alliance to have ever graced the server. if i accomplish one thing during this war it will be to expose your lot as the backstabbing, *in bunch of lowlifes you really are. We may be at war with RA but atleast we can respect them and they deserve better allies than you lot. that comment coming from a shinra member lolz! You should uncheck your allaince and corp names before you post that. Your sad sack alliance/corp isnt even up to riding coattails yet. You are riding on the toilet paper stuck to RA/Goons shoe.
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 17:03:00 - [36] Originally by: Tod Klemp Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Originally by: Touk Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson I just wanted to state for the record that KOS is still in this fight despite the lowly chatter we receive from our rivals in 0.0 ITS TIME oh...and I bet LV is so sure they will win....just as sure as RA was beaten and Cache was safe....eh boys? I'm sure we all remember when that was on the threads.. Despite that....GF and GL to all ive said it before and ill say it again. KOS are the most usless excuse for an alliance to have ever graced the server. if i accomplish one thing during this war it will be to expose your lot as the backstabbing, *in bunch of lowlifes you really are. We may be at war with RA but atleast we can respect them and they deserve better allies than you lot. that comment coming from a shinra member lolz! You should uncheck your allaince and corp names before you post that. Your sad sack alliance/corp isnt even up to riding coattails yet. You are riding on the toilet paper stuck to RA/Goons shoe. harrr harrrr harrrrrrrrrr you smell funny....like someone who wishes they were a part of something...bigger than themselves -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.10 17:04:00 - [37] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson HEY GUYS! LOOK AT US!
Mattduk Gallente Universal Army	Posted - 2007.02.10 17:07:00 - [38] Originally by: Touk Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson I just wanted to state for the record that KOS is still in this fight despite the lowly chatter we receive from our rivals in 0.0 ITS TIME oh...and I bet LV is so sure they will win....just as sure as RA was beaten and Cache was safe....eh boys? I'm sure we all remember when that was on the threads.. Despite that....GF and GL to all ive said it before and ill say it again. KOS are the most usless excuse for an alliance to have ever graced the server. if i accomplish one thing during this war it will be to expose your lot as the backstabbing, *****in bunch of lowlifes you really are. We may be at war with RA but atleast we can respect them and they deserve better allies than you lot. Is TEGL in KOS?
Rat Hubble Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 17:34:00 - [39] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA first off....since when does a raven macro-mine? We dont have any of those types in KOS. Second....3 or 4 peopel in gangs...u really are the MOST moronic person that has posted so far....KOS ran gangs of upwards of 150 members at our peak....yet LV never found any time to thank us for showing (like when we saved their necks when they put up the GB- outpost) or simply for helping put on good fights... Third. C0rn1 you know that we didnt meet that policy...yes...but you were the cause of many of the KOS blunders in the beginning of the war...If i remember u abrubtly left KOS after losing a freighter full of 20+ towers..... FOURTH: LV never gave KOS control towers that we didnt give LV first....we supplied LV with towers from the get-go. Your propaganda machine cant break through my wall of truth Lvl V!!!!!!! your PATHETIC AND I WILL LIVE IN YOUR STATIONS YOU SWINE KOS' fighting spirit and great commitment to honour is a thing of much hilarity, which unfortunately means that calling LV pathetic is ironically "pathetic"
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 17:34:00 - [40] Matt....if TEGL is the corp ticker than no and they never have been -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp

Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 17:36:00 - [41] Originally by: Rat Hubble Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA first off....since when does a raven macro-mine? We dont have any of those types in KOS. Second....3 or 4 peopel in gangs...u really are the MOST moronic person that has posted so far....KOS ran gangs of upwards of 150 members at our peak....yet LV never found any time to thank us for showing (like when we saved their necks when they put up the GB- outpost) or simply for helping put on good fights... Third. C0rn1 you know that we didnt meet that policy...yes...but you were the cause of many of the KOS blunders in the beginning of the war...If i remember u abrubtly left KOS after losing a freighter full of 20+ towers..... FOURTH: LV never gave KOS control towers that we didnt give LV first....we supplied LV with towers from the get-go. Your propaganda machine cant break through my wall of truth Lvl V!!!!!!! your PATHETIC AND I WILL LIVE IN YOUR STATIONS YOU SWINE KOS' fighting spirit and great commitment to honour is a thing of much hilarity, which unfortunately means that calling LV pathetic is ironically "pathetic" Please do explain your case...dont just state what your ebil propaganda machine has already secreted onto the eve-o forums -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
ClarCE Pitbull Industries	Posted - 2007.02.10 17:48:00 - [42] Now you mentioned the Beatrice Corp .. How can you Brag about Killing there Ravens while they are Ratting and already taking a beaten off the rats for you and your 4-5 man NanoPhoons to come along and POD them. Yes I agree a kill is a kill .. a pod is a pod. To catch them off guard while ratting well maybe not a good 1 on 1 fair pvp fight....If you check the killboards you will also see that they have pod'd a Few of the regualar LV pilots that werent so lucky to catch them off gaurd.....On a fair 1 on 1 pvp fight I think you will see they nailed ur asses... As for the RA/Goon/TCF etc Im proud to fly with them , Ive offered them support and helped when needed the same I did for LV the only difference is RA/Goon/TCF have been there for me aswell when its been needed. I helped LV on numerous occasions and when KOS was invaded I spoke to several ppl in LV ( no names mentioned but you know who you are )who managed to rustle up a 5 man gang who got 4 jumps away and turned around!! I admit Im only a mere pilot no one high up in KOS but when I heard that LV were ignoring our call for help I didnt believe it and didnt want to believe it and thought I would try to do something about it....but it fell on deaf ears...maybe they knew they couldnt help and the real reason they didnt come to help was because they would of looked very stupid coming in to save a system or 2 and losing everything! So to save face LV said you should defend it yourself knowing to well that there help wouldnt of mattered...and then theres the spies....and it goes on but HEY KOS is in a better place now and with ppl they can trust. Oh and dont forget after all it is still only a game..if it gets too much hit the power button
Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 17:51:00 - [43] Beatlrice are macroers. The reason we kill 7-10 of their ravens (and they only fly ravens...) a day NPCing is because they run 10 accounts all in ravens all NPCing at the same time. If they made any isk (and with 10+ BS losses a day they dont), they ebay it. Nothing else would explain their extraordinary behaviour.
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 17:56:00 - [44] LV thinks anyone that makes isk that they kill either is a macro-miner or ratting farmers.....you guys really are twits. Please do come up with something fresh... i can come out and say that all LV pilots are furries...it dont make it a fact. your all so pathetic...and in your eyes...that has to be bad to have a pathetic alliance call you pathetic.....dont post here unless u have some substance behind what you say. -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Xendie Away Humping Keyboard	Posted - 2007.02.10 17:58:00 - [45] Originally by: Rat Hubble KOS' fighting spirit and great commitment to honour is a thing of much hilarity, which unfortunately means that calling LV pathetic is ironically "pathetic" so what has looser volterra done? allies with lots of ppl but just let them die with no assistance when the enemy comes. not really great comittment to honour as you would say. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent? Quote: jake sisko > its f-e's bob dev alt making lag
Rat Hubble Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 17:59:00 - [46] Originally by: ClarCE Oh and dont forget after all it is still only a game..if it gets too much hit the power button Sadly, too many of your "flavour of the month friends" seem to take your advice on a regular basis.
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 18:01:00 - [47] Edited by: Khirzan Wolfson on 10/02/2007 17:58:43 Originally by: Rat Hubble Originally by: ClarCE Oh and dont forget after all it is still only a game..if it gets too much hit the power button Sadly, too many of your "flavour of the month friends" seem to take your advice on a regular basis. and your saying that UCC, KOS, -V-, and ERA were not Lv's flavor's of the month? stop talking, analyze the past year+ of eve history, then MAYBE you can get yourself out of the hole your in ALSO....u have yet to provide the proof of your previous post before this one -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Tod Klemp Gallente K-Street Project	Posted - 2007.02.10 18:02:00 - [48] Originally by: Xendie Originally by: Rat Hubble KOS' fighting spirit and great commitment to honour is a thing of much hilarity, which unfortunately means that calling LV pathetic is ironically "pathetic" so what has looser volterra done? allies with lots of ppl but just let them die with no assistance when the enemy comes. not really great comittment to honour as you would say. careful dude, how many warnings are you from your permaban again?
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 18:03:00 - [49] Originally by: Tod Klemp Originally by: Xendie Originally by: Rat Hubble KOS' fighting spirit and great commitment to honour is a thing of much hilarity, which unfortunately means that calling LV pathetic is ironically "pathetic" so what has looser volterra done? allies with lots of ppl but just let them die with no assistance when the enemy comes. not really great comittment to honour as you would say. careful dude, how many warnings are you from your permaban again? pfft how is he close to a permaban...im in full agreement with him -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
KeepItSimple M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 18:11:00 - [50] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson LV thinks anyone that makes isk that they kill either is a macro-miner or ratting farmers.....you guys really are twits. Please do come up with something fresh... i can come out and say that all LV pilots are furries...it dont make it a fact. your all so pathetic...and in your eyes...that has to be bad to have a pathetic alliance call you pathetic.....dont post here unless u have some substance behind what you say. Either you do not speak the truth or you don't know what is going on in your alliance. We have clear information that tells us, that at least one of KOS member corps are isk farmers, trying to earn a RL living for RL money. CCP has been notified. I think that kind of behavior is a discrace and I hope CCP will stop it asap.

Frumious M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 18:36:00 - [51] ROFL
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 18:44:00 - [52] Originally by: KeepItSimple Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson LV thinks anyone that makes isk that they kill either is a macro-miner or ratting farmers.....you guys really are twits. Please do come up with something fresh... i can come out and say that all LV pilots are furries...it dont make it a fact. your all so pathetic...and in your eyes...that has to be bad to have a pathetic alliance call you pathetic.....dont post here unless u have some substance behind what you say. Either you do not speak the truth or you don't know what is going on in your alliance. We have clear information that tells us, that at least one of KOS member corps are isk farmers, trying to earn a RL living for RL money. CCP has been notified. I think that kind of behavior is a discrace and I hope CCP will stop it asap. .... Frumy put it best... Originally by: Frumious ROFL I think your racially profiling a chinese corp as farmers cuz of the stigma the online community has. Take your crap elsewhere...and like u said..CCP been notified. But they didnt do nothin cuz u wrong. beatlrice PVP with the rest of us...its just hard to give intel to chinese folk when u speak english...but you wouldnt know that...u dont communicate with your friends anyways. Except when u go "YELP BOB WE NEED HELP WE CANT HOLD OUR REGIONS BY OURSELVES"...then u come on forums and call KOS punks cuz we couldnt hold WC from the swarm......yah your logic kicks arse...which community college did u go to? -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 18:47:00 - [53] Edited by: Bellon on 10/02/2007 18:44:20 Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson I think your racially profiling a chinese corp as farmers cuz of the stigma the online community has. Take your crap elsewhere...and like u said..CCP been notified. But they didnt do nothin cuz u wrong. beatlrice PVP with the rest of us...its just hard to give intel to chinese folk when u speak english...but you wouldnt know that...u dont communicate with your friends anyways. Except when u go "YELP BOB WE NEED HELP WE CANT HOLD OUR REGIONS BY OURSELVES"...then u come on forums and call KOS punks cuz we couldnt hold WC from the swarm......yah your logic kicks arse...which community college did u go to? What? We had no idea they were chinese. Ha! This cements our opinion of them if anything. Losing 10 Ravens a day must seriously hurt their bank balance though,
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 18:53:00 - [54] your pathetic -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Frumious M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:02:00 - [55] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson Originally by: KeepItSimple Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson LV thinks anyone that makes isk that they kill either is a macro-miner or ratting farmers.....you guys really are twits. Please do come up with something fresh... i can come out and say that all LV pilots are furries...it dont make it a fact. your all so pathetic...and in your eyes...that has to be bad to have a pathetic alliance call you pathetic.....dont post here unless u have some substance behind what you say. Either you do not speak the truth or you don't know what is going on in your alliance. We have clear information that tells us, that at least one of KOS member corps are isk farmers, trying to earn a RL living for RL money. CCP has been notified. I think that kind of behavior is a discrace and I hope CCP will stop it asap. .... Frumy put it best... Originally by: Frumious ROFL I think your racially profiling a chinese corp as farmers cuz of the stigma the online community has. Take your crap elsewhere...and like u said..CCP been notified. But they didnt do nothin cuz u wrong. beatlrice PVP with the rest of us...its just hard to give intel to chinese folk when u speak english...but you wouldnt know that...u dont communicate with your friends anyways. Except when u go "YELP BOB WE NEED HELP WE CANT HOLD OUR REGIONS BY OURSELVES"...then u come on forums and call KOS punks cuz we couldnt hold WC from the swarm......yah your logic kicks arse...which community college did u go to? Khirzan, stop pretending ignorance regarding beatlrice's activities, i.e. ISK farming and -selling. Or if you want to continue to protect and harbour such operations go ahead and make you and your alliance even more ridiculous and less respectable than you already were. Regarding beatlrice PvP'ing with the 'rest of you', very impressive to exaggerate a lot There was a Dream that was KOS, time to wake up.
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:13:00 - [56] Edited by: Khirzan Wolfson on 10/02/2007 19:11:00 i have been awake...but if you like you may live inside your dream world...as we close in around you edit: also i dont see how any of this talk about beatlrice has anything to do with the point of this post...which was that KOS and friends are going to kill LV..... -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Frumious M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:22:00 - [57] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson Edited by: Khirzan Wolfson on 10/02/2007 19:11:00 i have been awake...but if you like you may live inside your dream world...as we close in around you edit: also i dont see how any of this talk about beatlrice has anything to do with the point of this post...which was that KOS and friends are going to kill LV..... Oh Ok, I was just establishing a pattern, you being either in denial, ignorant, or delusional. QED
Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:26:00 - [58] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson Edited by: Khirzan Wolfson on 10/02/2007 19:11:00 i have been awake...but if you like you may live inside your dream world...as we close in around you edit: also i dont see how any of this talk about beatlrice has anything to do with the point of this post...which was that KOS and friends are going to kill LV..... Will you sign a contract agreeing to quit Eve forever if they dont?
D1ck Jones Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:32:00 - [59] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson We're pathetic fixed that for ya
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:32:00 - [60] what kind of question is that...has nothing to do with anything. your killing this thread with a lack of substance -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp

BuSHiDo ZiN GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:39:00 - [61] Originally by: Rat Hubble Originally by: ClarCE Oh and dont forget after all it is still only a game..if it gets too much hit the power button Sadly, too many of your "flavour of the month friends" seem to take your advice on a regular basis. Oh Man! I get it! Its a joke about logging off to avoid combat! Oh man, thats clever, you're clever, I like you. We should trade notes sometime on how to be so sly and witty, I mean, you're to jokes what Jimi hendrix was to the trombone, it's incredible. I am awed to be in your prescense
nickycakes Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:42:00 - [62] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson your killing this thread with a lack of substance Funny..that's how you killed your alliance. Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:55:00 - [63] Originally by: nickycakes Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson your killing this thread with a lack of substance Funny..that's how you killed your alliance. Funny..we are not dead -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Bazman Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:57:00 - [64] Edited by: Bazman on 10/02/2007 20:53:55 Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson Originally by: nickycakes Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson your killing this thread with a lack of substance Funny..that's how you killed your alliance. Funny..we are not dead In your current state you may as well be. Whats the purpose of this thread again? Reminding EVE that your still around? Well thanks for that. nice of you to keep us informed. -----
Edde Bebbi Amarr The Griffin	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:58:00 - [65] Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN Originally by: Rat Hubble Originally by: ClarCE Oh and dont forget after all it is still only a game..if it gets too much hit the power button Sadly, too many of your "flavour of the month friends" seem to take your advice on a regular basis. Oh Man! I get it! Its a joke about logging off to avoid combat! Oh man, thats clever, you're clever, I like you. We should trade notes sometime on how to be so sly and witty, I mean, you're to jokes what Jimi hendrix was to the trombone, it's incredible. I am awed to be in your prescense /emote begins the countdown to GOON forum prohibition again...
V0idz Herrscher der Zeit	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:59:00 - [66] go on forum warriors.. btw. theres a game called EVE Online - you should give it a try --------- EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
Oceemia Caldari Quantar Swords SynchronizerZ	Posted - 2007.02.10 21:46:00 - [67] well all i have to see is to enjoy the moment seeing LV to fall. RA is one of the most potent superpowers in EVE while LV is not. In my EVE history i have seen manny forces but fighting RA is like trying to kill a phantom. RA are the absolute kings of POS warfare.all i have to say about it : been there, done that, got the T-shirt. All my best luck To RA/KOS and allies, they deserve the victory best regards Oceemia
Ghost Reaper Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 21:56:00 - [68] its funny that u say that, wen we lost the space becasue noob allainces (yes you) couldnt manage stront levels corectly, and couldnt defend your space :) BOB diplomats watch out for teh KOS convos wen goons start losing there space Gr
Leandra Anor Minmatar Asguard Security Service Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:39:00 - [69] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson Except when u go "YELP BOB WE NEED HELP WE CANT HOLD OUR REGIONS BY OURSELVES"...then u come on forums and call KOS punks cuz we couldnt hold WC from the swarm...... Of course that WOULD imply that they are WILLING to ask for help.... unlike KoS. Course you seem to just want to smack... which follows your typical behaviour Khirzan. Sad to say you seem to have gotten worse. KoS made it's bed and is apparently happy laying in it. Or are you not? hmmmm.... makes one think why you feel the need to protest so much if you are so much happier. ______________________________________________ smile It makes people wonder what you've been upto!! ~And YES already... I am a RL female gamer!!~
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.10 23:50:00 - [70] Originally by: Leandra Anor Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson Except when u go "YELP BOB WE NEED HELP WE CANT HOLD OUR REGIONS BY OURSELVES"...then u come on forums and call KOS punks cuz we couldnt hold WC from the swarm...... Of course that WOULD imply that they are WILLING to ask for help.... unlike KoS. Course you seem to just want to smack... which follows your typical behaviour Khirzan. Sad to say you seem to have gotten worse. KoS made it's bed and is apparently happy laying in it. Or are you not? hmmmm.... makes one think why you feel the need to protest so much if you are so much happier. Are you saying that KOS never asked for help? i think both sides can agree that we have at times asked for help....so im a bit confused... also my purpose was never to smack! I only am protesting against the slander of the alliance of which I am a part...but given you have attacked me personally I will say I am pleased that ASEE are no longer a part of our journey... Baz, yes the point of the thread was for me to stick KOs's arms out on the forums \o/ cuz we dont talk on forums mostly, and I feel due to that, many people never acknowledge us. We are a surviving and stable (whether u believe or not) alliance. The members have no delusions of our place in the gears of how this game works, and we enjoy the journey that KOS has brought us on. My part of this game is to experience all of it...not all the areas...but all the ups and downs that we have had. ta-ta for now -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp

Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2007.02.10 23:59:00 - [71] Originally by: KeepItSimple Either you do not speak the truth or you don't know what is going on in your alliance. We have clear information that tells us, that at least one of KOS member corps are isk farmers, trying to earn a RL living for RL money. CCP has been notified. I think that kind of behavior is a discrace and I hope CCP will stop it asap. I would assume this corp is Beatlrice, they have openly admitted it in convos.
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2007.02.11 00:40:00 - [72] hey, we bringing up old $&7 ? i'll join this party! here is perfect summary: -ra kicked kos's ass (i was one of the asses) -ra 'let us leave' after they took over outpost (nice of em) -lv V had no clue wtf was goin on and thanks for our wonderful alliance leaders communication /sarcasm* they start shooting us like no tommorow. ------- silly silly hank. how naive you were back then. hind sight truly is 20/20. of course after all this some of us were a bit leary to follow demo into his next project blindly... (somethin about small offline towers in the station system made me nervous for round 2). some great move north was about to occur, of course details were sketchy... good thing my corp took off. Well, we didn't take off, technically we were kicked from alliance without a reason, mail or convo, ( i think we asked too many questions). Way to kick your allies in the gut! Now what were you saying about V / LV? V nice way to treat one of your best pvp corps btw. Of course, for a 40 man corp to be #2 on the KOS killboards for months at a time says alot about KOS, who was then #3 i believe in alliance size. fact is, everyone ** on everyone else. lots of lies flew around in the air (i really hate lying) and things just got dirtier looking. kos wasn't friendly w/ RA simply to move out (as we had been told again and again). Thinking we were, I argued against the V / LV aggressions after we got stomped. I look back on the things i said and laugh. If only i had known the truth (probly never will know it in its entirety) but i got a damned good idea. Of course, I realized all this much later and any hopes of every being blue to KOS after i saw you all living out of their conqD station months later just went down the drain. Looking back, Demo didn't care about the coalition i dont think. Not after insmother. I wouldn't be surpised if he had sold us out TO RA. It all had an 'engineered' feeling to it. (i am not making any accusations. no evidence of this... just all so fishy, well... like i said, I wouldn't be suprised). Just seemed to work out too well for KOS in the end. (well, not really but i think you know what i mean.) the end was damned convenient. i've never held great love for BoB, but i'd stand by them b4 i would with the southeast grabass goin on w/ RA and EVERYONE else. Makes the naps of the north look like joke. so, in summary (god i type alot, sorry bout that) Khirzan, you need to realize ALOT of betrayal went around in those select 2 weeks when it really hit the fan. But it wasn't all on V/LV's side of the table, and as for KOS, well its one thing to NAP to move out, but christ, you guys rolled over and joined RA [:shock] You use this term 'friend' but its become pretty apparent that KOS are fair-weather friends AT BEST. Originally by:** Frumious There was a Dream that was KOS, time to wake up. qft. btw, I awoke from this dream to find demogod standing next to me giggling w/ my hand in a pot of warm water. oh, and b4 i forget, KOS, please stop smacking in local. I'm pretty sure it isn't gonna make ppl stop shooting at you / help sustain your tank or anything like that. holy crap, Mulder was right! The truth IS out there
KeepItSimple M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.11 02:07:00 - [73] Originally by: Big Al I would assume this corp is Beatlrice, they have openly admitted it in convos. True. The information we have on the matter has been forwarded to CCP recently. We have not received an answer yet.
Boris Horrible British Federation Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.02.11 02:31:00 - [74] Edited by: Boris Horrible on 11/02/2007 02:28:35 Wrong button :S _______________ I'm an impartial observer, I merely tell it how I see it. My comments in no way are indicative of the opinions of my corporation or alliance.
Boris Horrible British Federation Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.02.11 02:49:00 - [75] Edited by: Boris Horrible on 11/02/2007 02:48:08 Edit: I really do suck at this posting business. _______________ I'm an impartial observer, I merely tell it how I see it. My comments in no way are indicative of the opinions of my corporation or alliance.
Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.11 02:56:00 - [76] Originally by: Boris Horrible Edited by: Boris Horrible on 11/02/2007 02:48:08 Edit: I really do suck at this posting business. Yes you do, and your also wrong. Its not like there wasnt a massive HUGE war going on in Scalding Pass and Innsmother while all this was going on. KOS DID NOT FALL BECAUSE THEY DIDNT GET HELP. I dont know how many times Im going to have to say this. It went like this: Day 155 of the war, they were fine. Fighting less than V and LV but fighting none the less Day 156 of the war, they forgot to fuel the pos in a station system, and hadnt followed EXPLICIT LV instructions about moon coverage (but said they had) Day 157 they lost the station in a single attack during the night, signed a NAP then vigerously denied it to LV and V so dem0god could get his HUGE mineral store out of the station. Thats what happened. Ask anyone who was in KOS leadership at the time and is no longer.
Leandra Anor Minmatar Asguard Security Service Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.02.11 08:03:00 - [77] Originally by: Bellon Originally by: Boris Horrible Edited by: Boris Horrible on 11/02/2007 02:48:08 Edit: I really do suck at this posting business. Yes you do, and your also wrong. Its not like there wasnt a massive HUGE war going on in Scalding Pass and Innsmother while all this was going on. KOS DID NOT FALL BECAUSE THEY DIDNT GET HELP. I dont know how many times Im going to have to say this. It went like this: Day 155 of the war, they were fine. Fighting less than V and LV but fighting none the less Day 156 of the war, they forgot to fuel the pos in a station system, and hadnt followed EXPLICIT LV instructions about moon coverage (but said they had) Day 157 they lost the station in a single attack during the night, signed a NAP then vigerously denied it to LV and V so dem0god could get his HUGE mineral store out of the station. Thats what happened. Ask anyone who was in KOS leadership at the time and is no longer. You didn't have to be in KoS, let alone the leadership to see that... But yes... very true. ______________________________________________ smile It makes people wonder what you've been upto!! ~And YES already... I am a RL female gamer!!~
Harry Voyager Obscurity LLC	Posted - 2007.02.11 08:39:00 - [78] Originally by: HankMurphy [...] qft. btw, I awoke from this dream to find [...] standing next to me giggling w/ my hand in a pot of warm water. [...] Ok, I know this is a bit off topic, but what is this a reference to? I think I'm missing the cultural background for this one. Harry Voyager
Aceonfire Caldari JuBa Corp	Posted - 2007.02.11 08:51:00 - [79] Edited by: Aceonfire on 11/02/2007 08:48:12 Originally by: Touk i was always under the impression that to live in 0.0 you have to be able to defend yourself against attacks.....maybe i was wrong eh ?!!!!! Another requirement is being able to drag and drop things such as POS fuel. "You can't help people, who won't help themselves"
Rat Hubble Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.11 09:20:00 - [80] A) KOS had every intention to neglect to fuel POSes so as to let the system fall. B) KOS had no such intention, but then switch sides to save themselves dishonourably - and escape with your stash of Bane Torpedos. Which one are you proud of?

Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 09:58:00 - [81] Lv flamming again... I begin to think its their only defensive weapon they have agains all of us! Useless too... Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Just flamme in a treadh...its sad. For the Kos, dont give up the figth yarrrrr LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
tails52 Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:02:00 - [82] Oh well... I'll let bygones be bygones. Welcome to The Mullacaust, KOS. I look forward to flying with you. --------------------------------------------------
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:03:00 - [83] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson haha.....LV never followed their word..never had honor. What part of us taking stations FOR you in the first place, then setting you to negative when you gave up and willingly handed them over to our enemies do you not understand? --------
Aceonfire Caldari JuBa Corp	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:08:00 - [84] Originally by: tails52 Oh well... I'll let bygones be bygones. Welcome to The Mullacaust, KOS. I look forward to flying with you. Just don't make any of them POS managers, LOL.
tails52 Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:10:00 - [85] Originally by: Aceonfire Originally by: tails52 Oh well... I'll let bygones be bygones. Welcome to The Mullacaust, KOS. I look forward to flying with you. Just don't make any of them POS managers, LOL. I have no control over that. Shrug I am in it for the pew pew and general fun that will be had by both sides of the war. --------------------------------------------------
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:11:00 - [86] Originally by: Emrod Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:14:00 - [87] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? That is a valid point, actually. They were the french section of RA that left after RA lost their stations (they didn't stay after that point, I couldn't possibly guess why), and then went north to Venal. Recently they left Venal for some unknown reason involving a large group of people hostile to them, and returned to the south. Hmm... --------
Rat Hubble Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:17:00 - [88] Originally by: Emrod For the Kos, dont give up the figth yarrrrr They probably will not, but the Angels will just keep coming at them.
Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:17:00 - [89] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? We have the honor to always help and defend our allies and....we have a lots of exotic dancer too and you? What you have that its seem so incredible that my eyes never see it? Your Titan? No my eyes see it...so what? LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
Fire Hawk Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:19:00 - [90] Originally by: Emrod Lv flamming again... I begin to think its their only defensive weapon they have agains all of us! Useless too... Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Just flamme in a treadh...its sad. For the Kos, dont give up the figth yarrrrr What you have without RA and the rest of your slavers ? How can you compare LV (even Shinra alone) and TCF ? TCF history is full of losses and only victories you can claim were driven by other entities. LV pilots are veterans, pilots that accomplished many challenges in 0.0. You better start doing something interesting on your own before coming to open your mouth. Your banner fits you well, no facts and proof but a lot of blabla. See you in some monthes. We will show you how weak you are ____________________________________ My mom said I am a poet with a neutron blaster in the hand.

The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:19:00 - [91] Originally by: Emrod We have the honor to always help and defend our allies So that is why the core corporations of TCF left RA and ran north after their stations were taken? Or is someone forgetting a rather significant part of their alliance history? --------
Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:20:00 - [92] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Emrod We have the honor to always help and defend our allies So that is why the core corporations of TCF left RA and ran north after their stations were taken? Or is someone forgetting a rather significant part of their alliance history? If you want a exact TCf story, ask to my diplo, its better than supposition (; LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
Fire Hawk Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:21:00 - [93] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Emrod We have the honor to always help and defend our allies So that is why the core corporations of TCF left RA and ran north after their stations were taken? Or is someone forgetting a rather significant part of their alliance hitory? Significant part is that they chosen the wrong leadership. ____________________________________ My mom said I am a poet with a neutron blaster in the hand.
Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:23:00 - [94] Originally by: Fire Hawk Originally by: Emrod Lv flamming again... I begin to think its their only defensive weapon they have agains all of us! Useless too... Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Just flamme in a treadh...its sad. For the Kos, dont give up the figth yarrrrr What you have without RA and the rest of your slavers ? How can you compare LV (even Shinra alone) and TCF ? TCF history is full of losses and only victories you can claim were driven by other entities. LV pilots are veterans, pilots that accomplished many challenges in 0.0. You better start doing something interesting on your own before coming to open your mouth. Your banner fits you well, no facts and proof but a lot of blabla. See you in some monthes. We will show you how weak you are Hey Fire Hawk, i gonna admit i waiting a answer of you here. Yup, we gonna see in the next month who gonna stand or die. Good luck o7 LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:25:00 - [95] Originally by: Emrod Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? We have the honor to always help and defend our allies There is no honour in being a bandwagon jumper.. you are weak and cowardly.. but u can take pride in that _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:25:00 - [96] Originally by: Fire Hawk Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Emrod We have the honor to always help and defend our allies So that is why the core corporations of TCF left RA and ran north after their stations were taken? Or is someone forgetting a rather significant part of their alliance hitory? Significant part is that they chosen the wrong leadership. Easy shot but its always flammes, i am sure you have other argument. LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:29:00 - [97] Edited by: Emrod on 11/02/2007 10:34:29 Edited by: Emrod on 11/02/2007 10:27:12 Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? We have the honor to always help and defend our allies There is no honour in being a bandwagon jumper.. you are weak and cowardly.. but u can take pride in that And before the lock? TYPO EDIT LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:36:00 - [98] Originally by: Emrod Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? We have the honor to always help and defend our allies There is no honour in being a bandwagon jumper.. you are weak and cowardly.. but u can take pride in that So Bob are Bandwagon hummm.....next? I dont see BOB claiming that stealing LV targets was doing them (bob or LV) great honour? I saw Molle apologise to Chow for doing it.. again.. weak.. try again _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:39:00 - [99] Edited by: Emrod on 11/02/2007 10:39:40 oh well see ya flammer 0/ LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:54:00 - [100] Originally by: Emrod Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? We have the honor to always help and defend our allies There is no honour in being a bandwagon jumper.. you are weak and cowardly.. but u can take pride in that So Bob are Bandwagon hummm.....next? I dont see BOB claiming that stealing LV targets was doing them (bob or LV) great honour? I saw Molle apologise to Chow for doing it.. again.. weak.. try again Nah its over for me here, but we can continues this flammes war ingame Nope, I didnt think your arguements held water either _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)

TZeer BURN EDEN GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.11 10:56:00 - [101] Originally by: Fire Hawk Quote: only victories you can claim were driven by other entities. And we all know what you can claim LOL. Quote: LV pilots are veterans, pilots that accomplished many challenges in 0.0. You better start doing something interesting on your own before coming to open your mouth. Like bob have done something on their own.... Quote: Significant part is that they chosen the wrong leadership. LOL... Look who`s talking
Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 11:09:00 - [102] Edited by: Emrod on 11/02/2007 11:07:29 Edited by: Emrod on 11/02/2007 11:06:52 Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? We have the honor to always help and defend our allies There is no honour in being a bandwagon jumper.. you are weak and cowardly.. but u can take pride in that So Bob are Bandwagon hummm.....next? I dont see BOB claiming that stealing LV targets was doing them (bob or LV) great honour? I saw Molle apologise to Chow for doing it.. again.. weak.. try again Nah its over for me here, but we can continues this flammes war ingame Nope, I didnt think your arguements held water either And So....Bob and lv have a lots allies too in this war like us.We can't not very say that the other side its do bandwagon because we talk here of A EVE TOTAL WAR. Its not the same history here ! Its A Coalition war anyways! Many agains many....so what is the point here? If you say that my alliance or other alliance in the Redwarm/D2 can'T do the job alone...than you flamme yourself dude...and you kwow why? Because LV prove itself it can't do the job alone by let Bob help them. Thats it. Now i gonna sleep.... see ya tomorrow again flammer o/ LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
Juliette Red Jags Corp	Posted - 2007.02.11 11:14:00 - [103] Originally by: Emrod Because LV prove itself it can't do the job alone by let Bob help them. Thats it. What if this was planned all along ? Hmm could throw a lot of peoples ideas on what happened off track couldnt it ?
Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 11:16:00 - [104] Originally by: Juliette Red Originally by: Emrod Because LV prove itself it can't do the job alone by let Bob help them. Thats it. What if this was planned all along ? Hmm could throw a lot of peoples ideas on what happened off track couldnt it ? /me play the X-files song LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
tails52 Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.11 11:41:00 - [105] Dispenses T2 Tinfoil Hats on the house This will keep your brains from rotting from all of the lulz in these threads, use them wisely! --------------------------------------------------
Itzena Amarr OtakuDyne Corporation	Posted - 2007.02.11 11:48:00 - [106] Originally by: Fire Hawk Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Emrod We have the honor to always help and defend our allies So that is why the core corporations of TCF left RA and ran north after their stations were taken? Or is someone forgetting a rather significant part of their alliance hitory? Significant part is that they chosen the wrong leadership. Yes, it's much better when you have Devs running your alliance, amirite? -- I want my people to reclaim their rightful place in the galaxy... I want a rebirth of glory, a renaissance of power... I want us to be what we used to be.
IamBen Caldari M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.11 12:09:00 - [107] I dont understand why former allies who I personally spent several weekends of my life defending in wicked creek are coming on these forums and bashing us.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.02.11 12:24:00 - [108] Originally by: Emrod And So....Bob and lv have a lots allies too in this war like us.We can't not very say that the other side its do bandwagon because we talk here of A EVE TOTAL WAR. Its not the same history here ! Its A Coalition war anyways! Many agains many....so what is the point here? If you say that my alliance or other alliance in the Redwarm/D2 can'T do the job alone...than you flamme yourself dude...and you kwow why? Because LV prove itself it can't do the job alone by let Bob help them. Thats it. I'm not sure where your trying to go with this.. maybe you should reread the set of quote and try to rephrase this reply.. From what i understand of your posts: You believe Tau Ceti Federation has honour because you believe your involved in "A Coalition war" I disagree that simply being in a coalition brings any honour.. All the crying you do about BOB and LV doesnt add to Tau Ceti Federation in anyway.. which brings us neatly back to the original question: Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 20:03:00 - [109] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod And So....Bob and lv have a lots allies too in this war like us.We can't not very say that the other side its do bandwagon because we talk here of A EVE TOTAL WAR. Its not the same history here ! Its A Coalition war anyways! Many agains many....so what is the point here? If you say that my alliance or other alliance in the Redwarm/D2 can'T do the job alone...than you flamme yourself dude...and you kwow why? Because LV prove itself it can't do the job alone by let Bob help them. Thats it. I'm not sure where your trying to go with this.. maybe you should reread the set of quote and try to rephrase this reply.. From what i understand of your posts: You believe Tau Ceti Federation has honour because you believe your involved in "A Coalition war" I disagree that simply being in a coalition brings any honour.. All the crying you do about BOB and LV doesnt add to Tau Ceti Federation in anyway.. which brings us neatly back to the original question: Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? Come figth us and you gonna see, thats its! LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
Zoltaris COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 20:35:00 - [110] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? That is a valid point, actually. They were the french section of RA that left after RA lost their stations (they didn't stay after that point, I couldn't possibly guess why), and then went north to Venal. Recently they left Venal for some unknown reason involving a large group of people hostile to them, and returned to the south. Hmm... May i remember you that we are now over 1000 people in TCF, many of us (more than 70% of TCF) never were in the south before TCF decided to move there after leaving Venal So, don't count the actions of a single corporation as the actions of an alliance that was created after they had already happened What we did in Colsup before the creation of TCF doesn't count as what TCF did, the same should be true for all the other corporations in TCF Originally by: Fire Hawk What you have without RA and the rest of your slavers ? How can you compare LV (even Shinra alone) and TCF ? TCF history is full of losses and only victories you can claim were driven by other entities. LV pilots are veterans, pilots that accomplished many challenges in 0.0. You better start doing something interesting on your own before coming to open your mouth. Your banner fits you well, no facts and proof but a lot of blabla. See you in some monthes. We will show you how weak you are Fire Hawk... tsk tsk tsk... Why are you so bitter about us? Just a reminder... Colsup have fought BoB (and Xelas) for more than a year in fountain when we were in FA and would have kept doing so if TCF wouldn't have been created... And you helped in the creation of TCF, don't you remember? You were all cheeful back then when we decided to try our luck in the north since it was new grounds for everyone in our new alliance I would say that we were pretty succesful in Venal and even able to take Tribute while facing overwhelming odds, they won in the end, of course, but it was a great experience anyway for a lot of people in TCF, we were alone against a lot of people We have learned from our mistakes in the North, now we have great allies, who can rely on us and on which we can rely too And since we moved to Curse (and then Wicked Creek and Immensea), how many defeats did we have suffered? Originally by: thoth foc Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? Me! Of course! \O/ ----- > Amongst the Top 10

redeyehunter Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.11 20:51:00 - [111] You know what guys, you may have the numbers, but LV and BOB have the quality. RA has quality (respect to them, also like T2 loot) , but the rest of you are just rubbish, lots and lots of rubbish.
Exelsior Colossus Enterprises	Posted - 2007.02.11 20:59:00 - [112] Originally by: Fire Hawk Originally by: Emrod Lv flamming again... I begin to think its their only defensive weapon they have agains all of us! Useless too... Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Just flamme in a treadh...its sad. For the Kos, dont give up the figth yarrrrr What you have without RA and the rest of your slavers ? How can you compare LV (even Shinra alone) and TCF ? TCF history is full of losses and only victories you can claim were driven by other entities. LV pilots are veterans, pilots that accomplished many challenges in 0.0. You better start doing something interesting on your own before coming to open your mouth. Your banner fits you well, no facts and proof but a lot of blabla. See you in some monthes. We will show you how weak you are I'm sure BoB can beat TCF, and the Goons too, but I somehow thing that RA are unbeatable. Well i don't think, I know, and it so happens that RA are working with TCF and Goons, and AAA are I think somewhere in the picture too, so tell me, do you really think you can beat RA, give their history of never giving up even when they lose all their land?
Zoltaris COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 21:00:00 - [113] BoB has the quality and LV has the number, but once BoB if forced to return defend his territory, you will be left only with the numbers, and we have more, a hell of a lot more! ----- > Amongst the Top 10
Exelsior Colossus Enterprises	Posted - 2007.02.11 21:01:00 - [114] Originally by: redeyehunter You know what guys, you may have the numbers, but LV and BOB have the quality. RA has quality (respect to them, also like T2 loot) , but the rest of you are just rubbish, lots and lots of rubbish. Let's not forget AAA shall we now, i'm pretty sure they're not on your side (unless i got my diplomacy mixed up). And while RA have quality and also numbers in the form of allies, I honestly don't think you guys have any serious chance.
Lunas Feelgood Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.11 21:04:00 - [115] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Emrod Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Tau Ceti Federation what exactly do you have? We have the honor to always help and defend our allies There is no honour in being a bandwagon jumper.. you are weak and cowardly.. but u can take pride in that I think thats rather funny comming from you.. Hello btw thoth long time hope you are well.. And yes im the cutest little throll LV Spin: For every system you take we will only get stronger BOB spin: We didnt do it. We are innocent.. Btw any one got an icelandic dictonary?, I cant understand a frikcing word on Teamspeak
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.11 21:37:00 - [116] Originally by: Emrod Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Emrod We have the honor to always help and defend our allies So that is why the core corporations of TCF left RA and ran north after their stations were taken? Or is someone forgetting a rather significant part of their alliance history? If you want a exact TCf story, ask to my diplo, its better than supposition (; No supposition TFC legged it when we were spanking RA all over the South and never looked south again till the majority of -v- pvp corps had moved on and RA had become RAGOON... you lot do seem to be BANDWAGONeers with little remorse... Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.11 21:41:00 - [117] Originally by: Lunas Feelgood ... Man you are Greek now \o/\o/\o/ (this is a depiction of Lunas Will Fireblade and Parity linedancing is top Greek form, Lunas is the one missing a few of the steps) <3 Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.02.11 21:45:00 - [118] Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Emrod Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Emrod We have the honor to always help and defend our allies So that is why the core corporations of TCF left RA and ran north after their stations were taken? Or is someone forgetting a rather significant part of their alliance history? If you want a exact TCf story, ask to my diplo, its better than supposition (; stufffff ... we were spanking RA all over the South ... more stuffffff Ahahaa, yeah, I remember those times! :D Oh wait, No I don't :( Where was I when you did that Crellion? :( - BH
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.11 21:47:00 - [119] Originally by: Fire Hawk Originally by: Emrod Lv flamming again... I begin to think its their only defensive weapon they have agains all of us! Useless too... Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Just flamme in a treadh...its sad. For the Kos, dont give up the figth yarrrrr What you have without RA and the rest of your slavers ? How can you compare LV (even Shinra alone) and TCF ? TCF history is full of losses and only victories you can claim were driven by other entities. LV pilots are veterans, pilots that accomplished many challenges in 0.0. You better start doing something interesting on your own before coming to open your mouth. Your banner fits you well, no facts and proof but a lot of blabla. See you in some monthes. We will show you how weak you are Hey, another BOB member acting like a Grade A jackoff on the forums. Surprise surprise! I'm sure next we'll be hearing from him about how terrible it is that T20 had to cancel his character and how this is ALL a big witch hunt against the white as snow, innocent, and saintly BOB.
Zoltaris COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 22:08:00 - [120] Originally by: Crellion No supposition TFC legged it when we were spanking RA all over the South and never looked south again till the majority of -v- pvp corps had moved on and RA had become RAGOON... you lot do seem to be BANDWAGONeers with little remorse... Its TCF, not TFC And btw, TCF didn't exist back then ----- > Amongst the Top 10

Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:19:00 - [121] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Emrod Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Emrod We have the honor to always help and defend our allies So that is why the core corporations of TCF left RA and ran north after their stations were taken? Or is someone forgetting a rather significant part of their alliance history? If you want a exact TCf story, ask to my diplo, its better than supposition (; stufffff ... we were spanking RA all over the South ... more stuffffff Ahahaa, yeah, I remember those times! :D Oh wait, No I don't :( Where was I when you did that Crellion? :( It was right about when I had 400 kills on RA KB and you had 0 kills on RS KB... ring a bell? Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:21:00 - [122] Originally by: Zoltaris Originally by: Crellion No supposition TFC legged it when we were spanking RA all over the South and never looked south again till the majority of -v- pvp corps had moved on and RA had become RAGOON... you lot do seem to be BANDWAGONeers with little remorse... Its TCF, not TFC And btw, TCF didn't exist back then Yes it was Section 13 or something no? Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Zoltaris COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:28:00 - [123] Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Zoltaris Originally by: Crellion No supposition TFC legged it when we were spanking RA all over the South and never looked south again till the majority of -v- pvp corps had moved on and RA had become RAGOON... you lot do seem to be BANDWAGONeers with little remorse... Its TCF, not TFC And btw, TCF didn't exist back then Yes it was Section 13 or something no? Section 13 is a corporation, not an alliance, they are part of TCF now, however ----- > Amongst the Top 10
Founder Meo Gallente Dragons Of Redemption Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 03:34:00 - [124] I remember fighting for -V- and ill agree we did lose our fighting edge at the end. But i remember that not all KOS were bad when the betrayal happened a number split off and joined us. But that doesn't make what they did right. KOS royally stabbed us in the back. if you cant hack fighting and losing then don't fight at all. I fought, and I died for my alliance can you KOS people honestly say the same. If you cant hack losing don't play the game would be my suggestion As for the Goon swarm people I'm honored to know that you think Pleasurably of us old -V- members the lord knows I appreciate a good fight. But we lost fair and square. Propagandists aside i will never forgive those KOS people who left. You can complain about support as much as you want, but i remember fighting alongside you just as I remember fighting alongside LV, And i thought you were allies. but its all Over now. KOS made there decision and lets hope they stay with it. Because i know which side i will be fighting for, I'll be supporting my fellow comrades in LV I'll be fighting for the cleansing of scalding pass. Maybe one day -V- will come back i hope it does. Until then, to Enemy and Ally alike : Walk Softly and carry a Big Gun ----------------------------------------------- -Who would bring a charge against God's elect ? it is God who justifies- Romans 8:33
Namelesz Dismemberment	Posted - 2007.02.12 04:11:00 - [125] After reading thru most of this thread I have to say that I am pretty much embarrassed to have been part of KOS for a short period.
Wodin Drukvik GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.12 04:20:00 - [126] Originally by: Founder Meo I remember fighting for -V- and ill agree we did lose our fighting edge at the end. But i remember that not all KOS were bad when the betrayal happened a number split off and joined us. But that doesn't make what they did right. KOS royally stabbed us in the back. if you cant hack fighting and losing then don't fight at all. I fought, and I died for my alliance can you KOS people honestly say the same. If you cant hack losing don't play the game would be my suggestion As for the Goon swarm people I'm honored to know that you think Pleasurably of us old -V- members the lord knows I appreciate a good fight. But we lost fair and square. Propagandists aside i will never forgive those KOS people who left. You can complain about support as much as you want, but i remember fighting alongside you just as I remember fighting alongside LV, And i thought you were allies. but its all Over now. KOS made there decision and lets hope they stay with it. Because i know which side i will be fighting for, I'll be supporting my fellow comrades in LV I'll be fighting for the cleansing of scalding pass. Maybe one day -V- will come back i hope it does. Until then, to Enemy and Ally alike : Walk Softly and carry a Big Gun DORM were one of the most vigorous fighters, and it's nice to see that you're willing to fight alongside your chosen allies as nastily as you fought against us. I respect those who didn't just jump ship when -V- sunk - ironically you're the kind of loyalists that any alliance would be better off recruiting. I guess that's one of the cruel jokes that EVE plays - the people unwilling to abandon ship for favorable waters are the same people who would be most valuable for another alliance to recruit. Regardless, my comrades and I have nothing but respect for our foes, and it's good to see that not everyone has forgotten that KOS are stand-up allies. :)
Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.12 09:47:00 - [127] Originally by: Exelsior Originally by: redeyehunter You know what guys, you may have the numbers, but LV and BOB have the quality. RA has quality (respect to them, also like T2 loot) , but the rest of you are just rubbish, lots and lots of rubbish. Let's not forget AAA shall we now, i'm pretty sure they're not on your side (unless i got my diplomacy mixed up). And while RA have quality and also numbers in the form of allies, I honestly don't think you guys have any serious chance. HOLY *** WE ALL GONNA fOCKING DIE Oh and for AAA...We are Nap with them dude...for the moment its seem if your facts be true... Welcome in Bob online
putukas Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.12 10:02:00 - [128] Most of the top5 pvp corps from old Veritas killboard are still fighting CA RaGoons. We are not giving up until old Imperium alliance and specially goons are shipless :p
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 10:43:00 - [129] Originally by: Touk Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson I just wanted to state for the record that KOS is still in this fight despite the lowly chatter we receive from our rivals in 0.0 ITS TIME oh...and I bet LV is so sure they will win....just as sure as RA was beaten and Cache was safe....eh boys? I'm sure we all remember when that was on the threads.. Despite that....GF and GL to all ive said it before and ill say it again. KOS are the most usless excuse for an alliance to have ever graced the server. if i accomplish one thing during this war it will be to expose your lot as the backstabbing, *****in bunch of lowlifes you really are. We may be at war with RA but atleast we can respect them and they deserve better allies than you lot. So 1 man alliances beat KOS at everything? Find it funny when people can't even express their own feelings properly. Oh and the "smack" you put it. It's really flamebait unless you can back any of it up I'm afraid... Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 10:44:00 - [130] Originally by: Namelesz After reading thru most of this thread I have to say that I am pretty much embarrassed to have been part of KOS for a short period. Unfortunetly all alliances have idiots in them. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/

Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 10:45:00 - [131] Originally by: putukas Most of the top5 pvp corps from old Veritas killboard are still fighting CA RaGoons. We are not giving up until old Imperium alliance and specially goons are shipless :p Wonder what you boys will do when nano ships get err balanced?... Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
putukas Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.12 11:11:00 - [132] Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: putukas Most of the top5 pvp corps from old Veritas killboard are still fighting CA RaGoons. We are not giving up until old Imperium alliance and specially goons are shipless :p Wonder what you boys will do when nano ships get err balanced?... we will do what we have done for years. We'll use something else if needed. Dont you worry about it :p Its **ing me off tho, they always nerf good setups for ships. Like it was with ravens. First they fk up missiles. Then they nerf jamming then they increase ship hp.
Kayle Ki Ktaomai Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.12 12:08:00 - [133] Edited by: Kayle Ki on 12/02/2007 12:12:24 While I have trouble understanding any justification for war decing an ally for trying to salvage what they have left after losing their central hub station, regardless of who's fault the loss was, that point has been argued enough. :P I will say that as a standard grunt in KOS, the only LV I ever saw prior to the war dec was when we formed to go help LV. I was one of the first through the gate when we came to bail LV out with 100 man fleet while they deployed GB-. Certainly never saw LV in the qgq area while they were our "friends", but suddenly they were able to be there in force the moment they were our enemies. :P I'm not much into politics. I check these boards once a week at most when I'm bored, or to read how wars on the other side of the map are going. My opinion of alliances is based off what I've seen of them in-game, and honestly, I was thrilled when KOS backed off its northern campaign and came back south to fight LV. In the time we've been here, RA, Goon, and TCF have shown to be better allies than LV ever even pretended to be. Take it for what you will (which generally isn't much on game forums. :P ) but that's the view of somebody outside the propaganda political wheelings and dealings, based just on the day to day. I know when I'm in trouble I've got friends I can count on now. Never had that feeling with LV. At any rate, it all works out in the end. I'm happy with the core group that's goin at in KOS right now. I'm happy with our new allies. Most of all, I'm happy being in a war against somebody I'd actually like to see fall, rather than somebody I'm fighting just because I want their space. :P Meaningful PvP is what makes EVE great, and LV's helped make it even better! win win situation for me! Back to the battlefield. The Ki fleet is ready to go! o7 (note that while I don't like that -V- war deced us also, I don't really have hard feelings toward them. Prior to the war dec I had the feeling of alliance with -V-, and saw them in action many times. -V- were allies, LV was a group that lived south of us who we went to help out from time to time.)
Unbeliever Kresmoreen Pro Valde Justicia	Posted - 2007.02.12 12:38:00 - [134] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson I just wanted to state for the record that KOS is still in this fight despite the lowly chatter we receive from our rivals in 0.0 ITS TIME oh...and I bet LV is so sure they will win....just as sure as RA was beaten and Cache was safe....eh boys? I'm sure we all remember when that was on the threads.. Despite that....GF and GL to all Was in KOS for a couple of months in CMVK.. Even as a relative noob to 0.0 alliances, glaring (why the hell do RA have a POS in one of our freaking station systems still?) questions tended to come up, often. Happily let them plex their hearts out, roam around KOS space. Your alliance failures were yours, not LV/Vs. Your smack is not only misplaced, but downright wrong. I'm sure you don't see it, though. Yeah, RAGOON are awesome friends! Convenience is such a wonderful thing. If you handed me a 30bil station, i'd probably invite you over for dinner at least once . Ah well, good luck proving ineffectual again .

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:35:00 - [135] cleaned out the off topic posts, please keep the dev misconduct out of this thread. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us \| Wikipedia Entry They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long

Founder Meo Gallente Dragons Of Redemption Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 21:47:00 - [136] so basically all the KOS people are blaming the betrayal on LV i find that interesting as it was your space to defend. you can blame your allies all you want but when all is said and done its still your space, And your right, nay privlidge to die with it. if you had held the line to maybe LV finished the titan -V- wouldve takin longer to fall and parhaps we wouldve held on for longer .... but thats all in the past, we'll fight against you in the upcoming conflict and then we'll see whos the coward. i cant help but wonder that if BoB and LV do win will you nap with them as well ? because i'm sure that would cement the reputation that youve gathered. ----------------------------------------------- -Who would bring a charge against God's elect ? it is God who justifies- Romans 8:33
APEXrevived Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.13 00:55:00 - [137] Originally by: Emrod Originally by: Fire Hawk Originally by: Emrod Lv flamming again... I begin to think its their only defensive weapon they have agains all of us! Useless too... Without Bob and your blind proud..what do you have Lv ? Just flamme in a treadh...its sad. For the Kos, dont give up the figth yarrrrr What you have without RA and the rest of your slavers ? How can you compare LV (even Shinra alone) and TCF ? TCF history is full of losses and only victories you can claim were driven by other entities. LV pilots are veterans, pilots that accomplished many challenges in 0.0. You better start doing something interesting on your own before coming to open your mouth. Your banner fits you well, no facts and proof but a lot of blabla. See you in some monthes. We will show you how weak you are Hey Fire Hawk, i gonna admit i waiting a answer of you here. Yup, we gonna see in the next month who gonna stand or die. Good luck o7 the only way it'll take a month is if the anti-bob coalition falls apart. you seriously think that it will take only a month to bring bob down? i realize I'm asking a legitimate question in a completely flaming thread. but ahh well. I thought since this game is called Eve that I'd play a female character. Is that a good enough excuse for a guy?
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.13 01:07:00 - [138] Edited by: James Snowscoran on 13/02/2007 01:03:44 Originally by: Zoltaris Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Zoltaris Originally by: Crellion No supposition TFC legged it when we were spanking RA all over the South and never looked south again till the majority of -v- pvp corps had moved on and RA had become RAGOON... you lot do seem to be BANDWAGONeers with little remorse... Its TCF, not TFC And btw, TCF didn't exist back then Yes it was Section 13 or something no? Section 13 is a corporation, not an alliance, they are part of TCF now, however I remember fighting FFA (French Force Alliance) in Curse before they left along with Section XIII (who were part of RA) to form TCF and carve a home in the north. Prior to this XIII and the FFA corps had been flying together a while and shared a channel for cooperation. I know pretty much all the corps from FFA are in TCF now (some have merged, but you get the idea), but I remember being surprised when TCF returned to Curse that it was so big. Afaik FFA plus XIII was a lot smaller than it is now, but I don't know if that's because they've taken in new corps or just increased the numbers of the already existing ones. -----
Founder Meo Gallente Dragons Of Redemption Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 01:14:00 - [139] i honestly doubt that Bob will fall quite so quickly when all is said and done they are great PVP'ers and there logistics system isn't bad as well, and plus they've set up what you people refer as bob pets that will act as a buffer against any coordinated attack allowing Bob to coordinate there defenses whilst allowing there home systems to remain unhindered and above all lucrative. but what you have to remember is that Bob is highly compartmentalized they don't have giant gank armadas wheres it turns into a giant free for all, they have small to medium fleets, that are assigned a task and a purpose with an objective. they are efficient. ----------------------------------------------- -Who would bring a charge against God's elect ? it is God who justifies- Romans 8:33


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