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Unholy Preacher Trade Consortium	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:34:00 - [1] With the "leaked" T2 Battleship video on eve-files and the stated goal that a tech 2 battleship shouldnt be some OMGWTFPWNed ultraHAC, anyone have any interesting speculations on how they might turn out? one thread posted some "interesting" stats, but no info on the "bonuses". Anyways my speculation or rather hope is that they might turn t2 battleships into some sort of elite submarine type of ship where they get a bonus (like the stealth bomber) to cloak speed. Would be interesting to have a roamining gang that flies around with cloaked battleships lurking in space waiting to pounce upon someone. Any other hopes or speculations on the role of T2 Battleships?
Chode Rizoum Minmatar Temptation inc.	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:38:00 - [2] iam hoping for mini-dreads battleship with siege mode TEMPTATION INC. Killboard
McCool Spontaneous Defenestration	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:43:00 - [3] ms and titans tacklers smiley of your choice It's great being swedish, ain't it?
Corwain Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:45:00 - [4] I vote for recon-BSes. Can you just imaging a Battleship class version of a curse? HOLY CRAP! For game balance reasons though I can't imagine a way to make a T2 Battleship worth the cash and also not be overpowered. Oh well, another way to keep the younger player down. Good thing my characters actually have some age on em now! I like being on top!
Eoa Flos	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:52:00 - [5] "Holy crap!" is right! That'd be unbelievably awesome, but like you say, there probably isn't a way around making them overpowered. But I'd still vote for a Recon BS, what an interesting thought... Originally by: Corwain I vote for recon-BSes. Can you just imaging a Battleship class version of a curse? HOLY CRAP! For game balance reasons though I can't imagine a way to make a T2 Battleship worth the cash and also not be overpowered. Oh well, another way to keep the younger player down. Good thing my characters actually have some age on em now! I like being on top!
Kehmor Caldari PAK	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:52:00 - [6] Originally by: Corwain I vote for recon-BSes. Can you just imaging a Battleship class version of a curse? HOLY CRAP! yes, a bhaalgorn.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:55:00 - [7] To be perfectly frank, why NOT have Super Heavy Assault Ships? I've not heard one good reason other than 'I'd never be able to afford one, so you can't have one'. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Got Alliance? Contact me ingame for alliance creation services.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:57:00 - [8] T2 BSs ? Hmm, how about ability to use BOTH normal gates AND jumpdrives (need a jumpdrive module for that one, not mandatory on all setups) and the ability to use siege modules. Yep, that's about it, nothing more really needed. Pocket dreads able to go into highsec whenever they want. _ MySkills \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
Corwain Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.02.10 19:59:00 - [9] Ok, I wan't aware that the Baalgorn got a Nos range bonus. Or a tracking disruptor bonus. Or a drone damage bonus. Let my put it this way: Battleship class Curse: Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Tracking Disruptor effectiveness and 10% bonus to drone hit points and damage per level. Tech2 Battleships Skill Bonus: 40% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer range and 20% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer transfer amount per level 200m3 drone bay (enough for 1 set heavies, 1 set mediums, and 1 set lights) Enough lows to nano the hell out of it, enough mids to fit a crapload of Ewar, and enough grid and high slots to fit at least 3 heavy nos. OMG Unbalanced.
Kehmor Caldari PAK	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:01:00 - [10] Originally by: Corwain Ok, I wan't aware that the Baalgorn got a Nos range bonus. Or a tracking disruptor bonus. Or a drone damage bonus. Let my put it this way: Battleship class Curse: Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Tracking Disruptor effectiveness and 10% bonus to drone hit points and damage per level. Tech2 Battleships Skill Bonus: 40% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer range and 20% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer transfer amount per level 200m3 drone bay (enough for 1 set heavies, 1 set mediums, and 1 set lights) Enough lows to nano the hell out of it, enough mids to fit a crapload of Ewar, and enough grid and high slots to fit at least 3 heavy nos. OMG Unbalanced. yes, i have to admit in this day of nano-whinage, this is EXACTLY the ship we need. kudos to you for thinking of it. I would like to see the caldari one with these stats: +100% shield resists per level, +200% missile damage per level +100% ecm strength per level.
Samirol Blood Sweat and Tears	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Thor Xian To be perfectly frank, why NOT have Super Heavy Assault Ships? I've not heard one good reason other than 'I'd never be able to afford one, so you can't have one'. balance reasons. i want stuff to be fixed, not new shiny toys
Slash Harnet Minmatar Industrial Services INC	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Akita T T2 BSs ? Hmm, how about ability to use BOTH normal gates AND jumpdrives (need a jumpdrive module for that one, not mandatory on all setups) and the ability to use siege modules. Yep, that's about it, nothing more really needed. Pocket dreads able to go into highsec whenever they want. /Signed. I do like the 'submarine' idea, but they need to fix stealth bombers first before I'll support another ship with a similar skill. signature removed ... Pirlouit I finally got my sig nerfed once, I feel like a forum warrior!
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Unholy Preacher With the "leaked" T2 Battleship video on eve-files Link please.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Samirol Originally by: Thor Xian To be perfectly frank, why NOT have Super Heavy Assault Ships? I've not heard one good reason other than 'I'd never be able to afford one, so you can't have one'. balance reasons. i want stuff to be fixed, not new shiny toys Stuff will get fixed whether these are worked on or not. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Got Alliance? Contact me ingame for alliance creation services.
Sokratesz Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:16:00 - [15] specialise them.. good tank good dps good speed good e-war good nossage pick one.... Suicide is bad, hmkay? (clickety clickety)
linux4ever eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:57:00 - [16] can someone givre me the link to the vid ?
Benglada Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.10 21:02:00 - [17] bs 5 finishes in 1d 4 hours... BRING THEM ON!!!!!! --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends. Sig nerfz0r - maximum allowed siz0r is 24000 bytz0r. - Devil ([email protected]) Sig By Ortos
Marquis Dean Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.02.10 21:56:00 - [18] Here you go. Linkigasms ------ ------ Originally by: Crag Heyder I'm not talking FPS here, it's SPF.
Samirol Blood Sweat and Tears	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:01:00 - [19] Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: Samirol Originally by: Thor Xian To be perfectly frank, why NOT have Super Heavy Assault Ships? I've not heard one good reason other than 'I'd never be able to afford one, so you can't have one'. balance reasons. i want stuff to be fixed, not new shiny toys Stuff will get fixed whether these are worked on or not. yeah, but i would rather have more effort put into fixing and finding bugs, testing their software more, instead of getting new ships that would throw everything out of balance.
hUssmann Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:02:00 - [20] Market PvP and Missions I would hazard a guess. ______________________________________ Phoenix Lonestar > Server lag was non-existant pre Dragon.
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:21:00 - [21] Originally by: Marquis Dean Here you go. Linkigasms And what are we watching here? Spinny videos of shiny BS's (including concord?) with no stats or anything?
X99 Z990	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:24:00 - [22] Originally by: ElCoCo Originally by: Marquis Dean Here you go. Linkigasms And what are we watching here? Spinny videos of shiny BS's (including concord?) with no stats or anything? Yes. Though i saw the stats for the apoc, they werent english characters and it had like 5 turret points and launcher points and a dev replied that the stats were not final. These arent even formally announced yet so i wouldnt exactly expect full stats for them anytime soon.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:31:00 - [23] Originally by: Samirol Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: Samirol Originally by: Thor Xian To be perfectly frank, why NOT have Super Heavy Assault Ships? I've not heard one good reason other than 'I'd never be able to afford one, so you can't have one'. balance reasons. i want stuff to be fixed, not new shiny toys Stuff will get fixed whether these are worked on or not. yeah, but i would rather have more effort put into fixing and finding bugs, testing their software more, instead of getting new ships that would throw everything out of balance. I'm sure CCP doesnt have 100% of its staff able to do 100% of the work. Bug Hunters are unrelated to content developers. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Got Alliance? Contact me ingame for alliance creation services.
Dark Kavar Caldari Even-Flow Bad Company.	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:34:00 - [24] how about a raven with a reduction to torpedo explosion radius, increase to explosion velocity and the ability to run two MWDs at the same time Originally by: id rather leave on a good note but I hate my corp and do not want to play with them.
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:36:00 - [25] Originally by: Dark Kavar how about a raven with a reduction to torpedo explosion radius, increase to explosion velocity and the ability to run two MWDs at the same time You forgot 10% sensor damp effectiveness per level, duh
Dark Kavar Caldari Even-Flow Bad Company.	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:41:00 - [26] Originally by: ElCoCo Originally by: Dark Kavar how about a raven with a reduction to torpedo explosion radius, increase to explosion velocity and the ability to run two MWDs at the same time You forgot 10% sensor damp effectiveness per level, duh Gah how stupid of me Originally by: id rather leave on a good note but I hate my corp and do not want to play with them.
Ralus eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:46:00 - [27] I read a suggestion that t2 bs's should be very similar to there t1 counterparts just with loads of rig slots and masses of calibration which I thought was an awesome idea. Imagine the ultimate in customisable ships, with the right rigs you could turn it into a tanking monster or the longest range sniper ever to exist or how about the fastest, totally customisable to your own needs.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:48:00 - [28] Originally by: Ralus I read a suggestion that t2 bs's should be very similar to there t1 counterparts just with loads of rig slots and masses of calibration which I thought was an awesome idea. Imagine the ultimate in customisable ships, with the right rigs you could turn it into a tanking monster or the longest range sniper ever to exist or how about the fastest, totally customisable to your own needs. Personally I think that's what should happen with all T2 ships rather than being pigeonholed into roles, you train the hull then use it how you want...kinda like with tech 1 ships. But everyone will expect t2 BS to be ultra sp intensive and super expensive ships. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Got Alliance? Contact me ingame for alliance creation services.
Venkhar Krard	Posted - 2007.02.10 22:52:00 - [29] Stealth field emitter ships. They could stay at a ss and project a sphere like in a pos. All friendly ships in the sphere would be inivisible on scanner and almost impossible to find with probes (like a deadpsace area). It would be a perfect mobile base for refueling/repairing and for carriers assigning fighters.
Danh	Posted - 2007.02.10 23:00:00 - [30] How about a Bombardment Class Battleship? Smaller than a capital ship, bigger than a battleship and can fit a siege module (i.e. they'd have massive reductions to the module as a special bonus) for use with regular large turrets and has the ammo capacity for prolonged engagements (large cargo or an extra 25% cap reduction large turrets for amarr (on top of the usual 50% at lvl 5) or whatever ).

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