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Drunaii Takleh Gallente Nakama Sentai Gemini Federation	Posted - 2007.02.11 22:05:00 - [1] I've just started my first research project and I was wondering how many RP are generally needed to get a BPO in Electronic Engineering. Also, the info page about research mentioned missions that the agent would give for more RP, how frequent are those? -- "Reason has always existed, but not always in a reasonable form" - Karl Marx
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.02.11 22:25:00 - [2] Edited by: Verite Rendition on 11/02/2007 22:22:05 1) The number of RPs needed varies. It's like a lottery, every RP is a ticket. You can win with just 1 RP, but the more you have the more likely you are to get a BPO. 2) Agents will give you 1 RP mission per agent every single day. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Ennis Metara Gallente JASDIP	Posted - 2007.02.12 02:02:00 - [3] It may take a couple of days to get the first one, though. You'll get an Evemail when the agent is ready to offer you one.
Jai Centarium Anqara Industries	Posted - 2007.02.12 02:17:00 - [4] As mentioned, the BPO is given out as part of a lottery. There are players with hundreds of thousands of RPs that haven't won a BPO. Datacores are also available as a part of the R&D agents, and cost 500 RPs (multiplied by the field modifier, x2 for weapons, x3 for starships) each. The first mission is generally given out within a week of starting the research, though you may have to manually visit the agent and talk to her (with the "I want work, do you have anything" option) to trigger the first one. After that, it's about 20 hours per mission. <shameless plug> For a longer and more comprehensive guide, check here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=468637 </shameless plug> Good luck with your research! My avatar is a disembodied head. Nifty. Darn it, they fixed it. R&D Agent Guide
el commandante Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 08:24:00 - [5] i have more than a million rp in gallente starship and still havent won a bpo. i once won a high energy physics bpo with 37k rp - that is like Electronic Engineering but it is also 2 years ago. ----------------------------------------- if you own something that you cant leave behind in 5 min it owns you. i was owned once too.
Lougra	Posted - 2007.02.12 11:17:00 - [6] At friday i got a message from my lvl 3 r&d agent. She gave me a Mega Beam Laser II BPO. I barely had only 3654 rps
Di Jiensai Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.12 15:40:00 - [7] Originally by: Lougra At friday i got a message from my lvl 3 r&d agent. She gave me a Mega Beam Laser II BPO. I barely had only 3654 rps For that, you die. --- [AUCTION] Semiconductor Memory Cell II (built)
Hanishta	Posted - 2007.02.12 21:42:00 - [8] i got a sensor booster II BPO last week for 1561 RP mech eng q3 agent. it has a 3month avg sell price of 2000% over buildcosts. i had been running agent missions for about 2 weeks. I had cashed out about 10k rp into datacores earlier that month and switched to a new agent field before this.
Katril Wolf	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:24:00 - [9] Originally by: Lougra At friday i got a message from my lvl 3 r&d agent. She gave me a Mega Beam Laser II BPO. I barely had only 3654 rps Preps the sniper rifle.
roadrage639 Caldari Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2007.02.13 00:39:00 - [10] How do you get RP with agents? Im using caldari navy and spacelane patrol What agents can I use to get them? The Man Who Runs Will Fight Again
Jai Centarium Anqara Industries	Posted - 2007.02.13 05:08:00 - [11] Edited by: Jai Centarium on 13/02/2007 05:04:56 Originally by: Lougra At friday i got a message from my lvl 3 r&d agent. She gave me a Mega Beam Laser II BPO. I barely had only 3654 rps That BPO is terrible. I think you should Contract it to me. I'll kick in 50k ISK and a Navitas for it. No, seriously: Congratulations! Originally by: roadrage639 How do you get RP with agents? Im using caldari navy and spacelane patrol What agents can I use to get them? Check the link in my signature... it's a short and sweet guide to getting started in R&D! My avatar is a disembodied head. Nifty. Darn it, they fixed it. R&D Agent Guide
Arushia Nova Labs	Posted - 2007.02.21 16:35:00 - [12] Originally by: Lougra At friday i got a message from my lvl 3 r&d agent. She gave me a Mega Beam Laser II BPO. I barely had only 3654 rps And it's perfectly safe to autopilot it through Oursulaert in an Iteron III, trust me on this.
Jalen Rose Bre-X Heavy Industries	Posted - 2007.02.21 22:23:00 - [13] totally depends but from my experience with my agents. electronic engineering lvl 3 agent 15k rp - ogre II bpo mechanical engineering lvl 3 agent 45k rp - ogre II bpo mechanical engineering lvl 2 agent 40k rp - warrior II bpo mechanical engineering lvl 3 agent 45k rp - vespa II bpo Quantum physics lvl 3 agent 70k rp - thorn javelin rocket bpo still hoping for a few more..
Mr Printman J Productions	Posted - 2007.02.22 08:58:00 - [14] Originally by: Jalen Rose totally depends but from my experience with my agents. electronic engineering lvl 3 agent 15k rp - ogre II bpo mechanical engineering lvl 3 agent 45k rp - ogre II bpo mechanical engineering lvl 2 agent 40k rp - warrior II bpo mechanical engineering lvl 3 agent 45k rp - vespa II bpo Quantum physics lvl 3 agent 70k rp - thorn javelin rocket bpo still hoping for a few more.. Right and there is many many players with years of RP's but none T2 BPO offer. So don't hold your breath untill you win a T2 BPO J Productions : Carrier Lotto
altambra	Posted - 2007.02.22 14:18:00 - [15] Something I have been worrying about in the lottery: - computer-generated randomness requires a seed - the seed is often chosen from the time - the lottery typically happens at the same time each day, after downtime Therefore there is a risk that the SAME random numbers are being used repeatedly to allocate BPOs, which would explain the observed behaviour of some people getting BPOs repeatedly while many get none.
Khyle Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.23 11:24:00 - [16] Edited by: Khyle on 23/02/2007 11:32:09 Edited by: Khyle on 23/02/2007 11:27:54 Originally by: altambra Something I have been worrying about in the lottery: - computer-generated randomness requires a seed - the seed is often chosen from the time - the lottery typically happens at the same time each day, after downtime Therefore there is a risk that the SAME random numbers are being used repeatedly to allocate BPOs, which would explain the observed behaviour of some people getting BPOs repeatedly while many get none. Apart from the fact that you take the seed from the timeSTAMP, including day month and year or some system time, contuiously running in seconds, minutes or whatever(no real time as from a clock), i cant come up with any way where name or player-id would make any difference. Most probably for each draw each RP gets a number, you draw one number and look who owns that. After each draw number of total tickets and of tickets of person X changes, so always having the same random number would probably not even lead to the same person getting more than one BPO in one field(even if he has a large number of agents in that field) and even less across research fields, where its imho frankly impossible. Tin-foil hattery is always nice to watch :) That being said, my experiences: Scimitar BPO ~ 70k RP Tremor L ~ 25k RP Vespa II BPO ~ 20k RP Warrior II BPO ~ 18k RP Temor M ~ 7k RP (got lucky there) Scorch L ~ cant remember, should be somewhere at 20-40k During a 3 week holiday i got additionally offered 3 BPOs, which i missed :( (one of them a large ari sobs), all around 20-40k RP, and i declined about 5-6 BPOS(one of them multiple times), which didnt seem to be worth all the RP So, from my experience id say 1 single RP can be enough(of course, its a lottery), generally you most often seem to get BPOs around 20k times research field multiplier. P.S.: I have 17 research agents, so quit whining ;) P.P.S.: Btw is the current lottery through now or are people still getting BPOs? (cant wait to ground some agents¦ RPs into datacores to switch research field)

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