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Ghost Reaper Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:14:00 - [1] Edited by: Ghost Reaper on 12/02/2007 00:14:47 TCF proceeded to attack are POS's in JV1v again, this time we wernt going to stand by and watch. Joint forces moved on the system with fleets and capitals, majority of TCF dreads jumped out leaving 2 dreads left with a carrier. TCF support fleet came in to protect there dreads leaving the route clear for are fleet to jump in. We then proceed to killing 2 of there dreads as well as a carrier with carriers and dreads, while our support fleet engage the TCF fleet. TCF fleet lost around 30 bs, support coalation lost around 15bs. Other fleet battles around the area resulted in heavy losses for TCF, which resulted in them pulling out later in the day, a 30+ man bs heavy gang left tenerifis area though detroid on route home. Around the Same time a small group of LV, mainly shinra pilots were hunting a goon friendly carrier. We probed down the carrier then jumped 4 carriers on top. Goon support warped in and got killed. End result, 1 carrier down 4-5 support dead. BOB fleet proceeded to kzf, goon strong hold and killed a small fleet (10bs, and a lot of asorted frigs and cruisers) before being blobbed by CA and SNIGG. They left the system en route down to HLW. A force of around 30 LV and 60 BOB setup a camp in n3-, hotile forces reaching 200 jump in and lag the system. LV and bob take significate losses, but goons and friends take a lot of losses to. All POS's in DG and jv1v beloning to LV were saved and charged back up, we await the attack at 3-6am as usaul. Gr
Skrypt Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:17:00 - [2] Smack aside, kudos to TCF for bringing in the big guns. ---------- "I know. I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men." ~ Malcolm Wallace (Braveheart)
Rail Duke SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:17:00 - [3] Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! -------------
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:18:00 - [4] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/02/2007 00:14:38 We need more smack-free summaries like this. Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! And thus begins the smack apparently. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Nahia Senne Fortunis Novum	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:20:00 - [5] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/02/2007 00:14:38 We need more smack-free summaries like this. Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! And thus begins the smack apparently. and counter spammage ensues shortly after ^^
Arthur Miller GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:21:00 - [6] Originally by: Ghost Reaper Edited by: Ghost Reaper on 12/02/2007 00:14:47 TCF proceeded to attack are POS's in JV1v again, this time we wernt going to stand by and watch. Joint forces moved on the system with fleets and capitals, majority of TCF dreads jumped out leaving 2 dreads left with a carrier. TCF support fleet came in to protect there dreads leaving the route clear for are fleet to jump in. We then proceed to killing 2 of there dreads as well as a carrier with carriers and dreads, while our support fleet engage the TCF fleet. TCF fleet lost around 30 bs, support coalation lost around 15bs. Other fleet battles around the area resulted in heavy losses for TCF, which resulted in them pulling out later in the day, a 30+ man bs heavy gang left tenerifis area though detroid on route home. Around the Same time a small group of LV, mainly shinra pilots were hunting a goon friendly carrier. We probed down the carrier then jumped 4 carriers on top. Goon support warped in and got killed. End result, 1 carrier down 4-5 support dead. BOB fleet proceeded to kzf, goon strong hold and killed a small fleet (10bs, and a lot of asorted frigs and cruisers) before being blobbed by CA and SNIGG. They left the system en route down to HLW. A force of around 30 LV and 60 BOB setup a camp in n3-, hotile forces reaching 200 jump in and lag the system. LV and bob take significate losses, but goons and friends take a lot of losses to. All POS's in DG and jv1v beloning to LV were saved and charged back up, we await the attack at 3-6am as usaul. Gr Nice writeup.
Igneus Oraculum Igneus Auctorita	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:21:00 - [7] Edited by: Igneus Oraculum on 12/02/2007 00:19:08 You forgot to mention the Igneus Auctorita shuttles that charged the camp in KZF. We took significant losses, but I think we managed to chip some of the paint on the titan, so all in all a successfull op.
Ghost Reaper Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Gr
Fedaykinn Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:23:00 - [9] Here is a none sided battle summary of The BOB Vs CA/Goon/Snigg engagment Haha this was one ace battle guys BOB fc really scrwed this one up ---------------------------------------------------------- A Goon/CA/Snigg fleet jumps into the system and amazingly the node holds. We see about 40 bs set up for sniping and lots of support at the gate. As the Goon/Ca/Snigg fleet jumped in antoher goon fleet already in the system jumped on top of the snipers. We kill quite alot of the support. then finally the buble goes down. We have one guy setup as a warp to point to warp on top of the sniper fleet. So we all hit warp and landed right ontop of the BOB sniper fleet. We start tackling all these sniper bs's and get alot of BS kills with fully t2 setups (and the faction setup). We ahd a slug fest for about 20 mins killing these sniper bs's off easily because they only have long range guns equipped and cant cope with the close combat. Some did get away thuogh.. After this we ended up chasing BOB to every planet in the system lol and they all run away hehe. ---------------------------------------------------------- We won this battlefield I have no diea about the TCF battle though
Crucifier BURN EDEN GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:26:00 - [10] What you seem to be forgetting is that, even though you can defend atm, you cant attack, neither of bob nor lv dare putting fourth dreads. And while thats going on bob is gonna be loosing its space. ------
Fedaykinn Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:26:00 - [11] Originally by: Ghost Reaper Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Gr But you cant have an equal amount hence the "Swarm" tactic from goon which looks like its working. Looses dont mean anything in the goon Swarm tactic instead of having less BS's doing huge damage. you have ALOT of cruisers doing little damage. its the swarm tactic and it works. Its like throwing 100000 troops at a 20000 all the troops are dispensable as long as they win the war
Hull Cleaver Caldari Mala Fide Corp	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:36:00 - [12] You can shoot 1000 BB's at a Rhino, but it doesn't mean you will kill it...just have one ****ed off Rhino. Sheer numbers cannot defeat the smaller fleet if the swarm gets single shot losses. Your theory is flawed. Commander HullCleaver Mala Fide CEO
Fedaykinn Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:38:00 - [13] Edited by: Fedaykinn on 12/02/2007 00:36:20 Originally by: Hull Cleaver You can shoot 1000 BB's at a Rhino, but it doesn't mean you will kill it...just have one ****ed off Rhino. Sheer numbers cannot defeat the smaller fleet if the swarm gets single shot losses. Your theory is flawed. Yes but we know BB's wont be able to kill a rhino. However these swarm ships do deal damage and can kill ships no matter wat size. Your theory is flawed my friend...
Cmd Woodlouse Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:38:00 - [14] Originally by: Ghost Reaper Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Gr You are fighting Goons, ofc ur numbers of kills are racking up. But isk-wise? If you are only insisting on ur kb as indicator of the war progressm then dont count numbers. Count effectivity. --------------------------------
Virgil Aquilis GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:41:00 - [15] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/02/2007 00:14:38 We need more smack-free summaries like this. Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! And thus begins the smack apparently. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=474486 Practice, preach, etc.
Laythun Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:51:00 - [16] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/02/2007 00:14:38 We need more smack-free summaries like this. Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! And thus begins the smack apparently. My my your smack detector must be faulty...? Originally by: Ghost Reaper Stuff finally left the low sec belts ay? ♥ Black Lance Brother
James Duar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.02.12 01:21:00 - [17] Nice summary of the battle, good to see these battle reports. A great way to catch up with what's happening.
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.12 01:28:00 - [18] Originally by: Hull Cleaver You can shoot 1000 BB's at a Rhino, but it doesn't mean you will kill it...just have one **ed off Rhino. Sheer numbers cannot defeat the smaller fleet if the swarm gets single shot losses. Your theory is flawed. guns dont kill rhinos, rappers do. and I'm a ***** rapper and I might kill you
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.12 01:35:00 - [19] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Ghost Reaper Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Gr You are fighting Goons, ofc ur numbers of kills are racking up. But isk-wise? If you are only insisting on ur kb as indicator of the war progressm then dont count numbers. Count effectivity. For example in the BoB engagement mentioned earlier we were fortunate enough to kill a t2 / faction fitted machariel. This single kill, without factoring in BoB's other losses, was not only worth more than all of our causalities but possibly more than our entire fleet.
Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 01:42:00 - [20] As many many people have posted saying "thanks for the write up", is it too much to ask to keep this thread smack free for further writeups (from both sides) that the community OBVIOUSLY enjoys.
SonicCJK FireTech Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 02:13:00 - [21] errr Sry but report about n3- is slightly biased BOB/LV Fleet was in KZFV sieging the system with 80+ Fleet, when CA/Snigg fleet arrived, BOB move to position 150km from Gate and brought in 2-3 Interdictors to bubble up, then sudden Goons have warp in 100km from BOB Main Fleet. Once we took out support in close range, CA/Snigg fleet warp off and chase and probe every Planet to hunt down BOB fleet or wat remaining of it, some Ships were loss at expense of tacklers(there was Rokh pilot actually did logoffski as entire CA/Snigg land on him), CA/Snigg and Goons moved to station for break, on which BOB took oppurity to move out of system with most of fleet intact, and move off toward N3- which scout reported of build up Forces of LV/BOB which we assume BOB main fleet have gone to meet up rest of allies. Everyone in KZFV were preparing to meet LV/BOB fleet for major engagement in N3- and reports of No Titan pilot in system, so Goons were given go to engage the fleet and CA/Snigg follow behind. Now we engaging Defensive LV/BOB fleet with BS in position for long range fire with support/tacklers on gate, with Goons + CA/Snigg in mostly BC/Cruiser/Frig with 20-30 BS. The battle begun with brutal close range combat taking out anything that tackling us with Goons swarm toward LV/BOB Long range Firing position, then success, Goons have manage to get tackler on BS and warp most of fleet toward LV/BS and that when LV/BOB realise they are losing badly and tried to warp out much of fleet to keep it intact with CA/Snigg chasing every hostiles in SS/planet to destory remaining force. True, the lag was terrible but job was done for Goon + CA/Snigg fleet who have took heavy loss in Cruiser/BC/Frig and same for Goons but it was overall victory with LV/BOB with their t2/faction equipment BS(There was MAchinerl pilot from BOB include in loss as well) in rout with higher losses in cost compare to Goons + CA/Snigg. Major Battles of N3- and Skirmish of KZFV result for victory for Goons + CA/Snigg. Flame and whine all u like about result but that honest view as far i can see.
Raul necrobie Minmatar COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.12 02:26:00 - [22] It was a ******* nice and epic battle LV : ) Good Fight to each side Tau Ceti Federation Video.
Strong Badd Trogdor the Burninator Corporation	Posted - 2007.02.12 04:54:00 - [23] Originally by: Ghost Reaper Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Gr Don't count kills, count isk. Goonfleet stats taken from LV killboard: Damage done (ISK): 420738.68M Damage received (ISK): 449957.73M 30 billion is a small difference with those numbers to be bragging so much.
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.12 04:56:00 - [24] Also gotta remember that when Goon kill a buncha ships and salvage the loot they come out very well on the deal. When other folks kill Goons they probably don't even bother to loot. . .
Duke Grail Darkblade Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.12 05:03:00 - [25] Originally by: Martin VanBuren For example in the BoB engagement mentioned earlier we were fortunate enough to kill a t2 / faction fitted machariel. This single kill, without factoring in BoB's other losses, was not only worth more than all of our causalities but possibly more than our entire fleet. I lol'ed... from what i remember about being in goonfleet a while back... is that goon's don't really care about k/d ratio or even an isk killed/lost ratio... they care about winning, not just winning the fight at hand, but at winning in the bigger picture... all other metric's used to determine win/loss will fail all in all, nice write up. keep'em comming.
Hennry Fromer Gallente radiated space gerbils	Posted - 2007.02.12 07:31:00 - [26] So the node performed okay and good fun was had by all - thanks for the battle reports and keep'em coming.
Jargoon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.12 07:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Hennry Fromer So the node performed okay and good fun was had by all - thanks for the battle reports and keep'em coming. It was pretty laggy, but the module lag wasn't too bad and I was able to warp out when I got into structure. Pretty good, all things considered. Great job and thanks to arghy, our awesome FC
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.12 07:50:00 - [28] Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 12/02/2007 07:46:51 Somebody explain to me why our killboard shows 23 bs loss while the op state we loose "around 30"... Originally by: Ghost Reaper Edited by: Ghost Reaper on 12/02/2007 00:14:47 (...) hotile forces reaching 200 jump in and lag the system. Lag is also on our side ? ----- History is made by whinners
Papa Ina The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2007.02.12 07:59:00 - [29] Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 12/02/2007 07:46:51 Lag is also on our side ? You'll get used to that, apparently lag always favours the enemy of the poster. It's Eve-O physics.
Denari LokStar adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 08:04:00 - [30] Edited by: Denari LokStar on 12/02/2007 08:02:15 Originally by: Strong Badd Originally by: Ghost Reaper Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Gr Don't count kills, count isk. Goonfleet stats taken from LV killboard: Damage done (ISK): 420738.68M Damage received (ISK): 449957.73M 30 billion is a small difference with those numbers to be bragging so much. Good job making up numbers, but the only stats available from LV's killboard against goonswarm startson Jult 14th 2006 till now Stats vs. OhGod: 14404 kills for 133.866B killboardpoints 3265 losses for 84.6B killboardpoints And that includes 24B in dreads that were killed by RaGoon. Look Ma, i can make up numbers too !!
Superbus Maximus Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.12 08:09:00 - [31] Originally by: Denari LokStar Edited by: Denari LokStar on 12/02/2007 08:02:15 Originally by: Strong Badd Originally by: Ghost Reaper Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Gr Don't count kills, count isk. Goonfleet stats taken from LV killboard: Damage done (ISK): 420738.68M Damage received (ISK): 449957.73M 30 billion is a small difference with those numbers to be bragging so much. Good job making up numbers, but the only stats available from LV's killboard against goonswarm startson Jult 14th 2006 till now Stats vs. OhGod: 14404 kills for 133.866B killboardpoints 3265 losses for 84.6B killboardpoints And that includes 24B in dreads that were killed by RaGoon. Look Ma, i can make up numbers too !! Those are your stats against the goons
Logi3 EVE Corporation 1631	Posted - 2007.02.12 09:26:00 - [32] I enjoy these reports and keeping update on the war. I do however take must stats by the OP with a pinch of salt... From both sides.. People need to realise this war is not about how many kills are on the KB's, theres a much bigger picture which someone has already commented on.. Keep up the fight both sides
BuSHiDo ZiN GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.12 10:05:00 - [33] Edited by: BuSHiDo ZiN on 12/02/2007 10:02:10 Originally by: Denari LokStar Good job making up numbers, but the only stats available from LV's killboard against goonswarm startson Jult 14th 2006 till now Stats vs. OhGod: 14404 kills for 133.866B killboardpoints 3265 losses for 84.6B killboardpoints And that includes 24B in dreads that were killed by RaGoon. Look Ma, i can make up numbers too !! I was going to find a chatlog about one of your hundreds of ratters who got blown up by our guys but we didn't get the killmail for one reason or another. Then I remembered our forum search is down, then I remembered they don't take kindly to chatlogzzzzzz so I instead opted to make this post which sort of in a roundabout way is calling your numbers completely bogus.
Liza Catapolus	Posted - 2007.02.12 10:16:00 - [34] Edited by: Liza Catapolus on 12/02/2007 10:13:09 Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN Edited by: BuSHiDo ZiN on 12/02/2007 10:02:10 Originally by: Denari LokStar Good job making up numbers, but the only stats available from LV's killboard against goonswarm startson Jult 14th 2006 till now Stats vs. OhGod: 14404 kills for 133.866B killboardpoints 3265 losses for 84.6B killboardpoints And that includes 24B in dreads that were killed by RaGoon. Look Ma, i can make up numbers too !! I was going to find a chatlog about one of your hundreds of ratters who got blown up by our guys but we didn't get the killmail for one reason or another. Then I remembered our forum search is down, then I remembered they don't take kindly to chatlogzzzzzz so I instead opted to make this post which sort of in a roundabout way is calling your numbers completely bogus. Did you read the quote? The numbers are fake
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.12 10:28:00 - [35] Originally by: Denari LokStar Good job making up numbers, but the only stats available from LV's killboard against goonswarm startson Jult 14th 2006 till now Stats vs. OhGod: 14404 kills for 133.866B killboardpoints 3265 losses for 84.6B killboardpoints And that includes 24B in dreads that were killed by RaGoon. Look Ma, i can make up numbers too !! It is well known that a signifiant part of LV members don't post their losses. So, how about forgetting all that boring and pointless talk about K/D ratios? Well done Bob/LV, you beat us yesterday in a tactical scale, but you're still losing ground in the strategic scale. ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types.
BuSHiDo ZiN GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.12 10:56:00 - [36] Originally by: Liza Catapolus Did you read the quote? The numbers are fake considering LV's bizzare killboard policies I wouldn't really be suprised if they extrapolated all their killboard totals based on estimates that every day was december eigth, and considering how impossible to navigate their killboard is I guess we'll never really know what their "accurate" numbers are. truly we are stuck behind an iron curtain of bizzaro-killmails
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 10:57:00 - [37] Originally by: Ghost Reaper Originally by: Rail Duke Originally by: Ghost Reaper but goons take a lot of losses to. Oh god no! so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Gr Thats because BOB would be leading the fleet. And BOB would be the majority. And also that would be 2 alliances against one. Numbers aren't everything. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 10:58:00 - [38] Even though som ppl have started to flame etc. Just like to say nice writeup. I'm looking forward to more of these! Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Ione Hiigara Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.12 11:47:00 - [39] Great fight, no lag at all for me. That would be great if every battle could occure in those perfect conditions. :) I believe many people from our side have also enjoyed this fight.
TheArchJudge Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:03:00 - [40] Props to TCF for a good fight.
Griefer Troll Troll Industries	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:22:00 - [41] Originally by: Ghost Reaper so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Gr Lol GR you walked right into that one. He posts 3 words and you are foaming at the mouth. Things can't be going that well for you.
Ghost Reaper Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:27:00 - [42] yea good fight to tcf, and nice respect on the boards not to do wat CA and goons do, smack, smack, smack. Plus u have nice loot Gr
Guderian Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:28:00 - [43] Originally by: SonicCJK errr Sry but report about n3- is slightly biased ...some stuff... Major Battles of N3- and Skirmish of KZFV result for victory for Goons + CA/Snigg. Flame and whine all u like about result but that honest view as far i can see. Originally by: Ghost Reaper They left the system en route down to HLW. A force of around 30 LV and 60 BOB setup a camp in n3-, hotile forces reaching 200 jump in and lag the system. LV and bob take significate losses, but goons and friends take a lot of losses to. err, what exactly is biased in that statement? It states that there was 90 lv/bob, aboout 200 hostiles, you jump in, lv/bob took significant losses, and hostiles lost ships too. What is biased about that? Was it the little 'a lot' in the end of the last sentence that threw it off? Why is your view more honest than the OP? Reading your view of the events and the words you are using, I would say that your write is more biased than the OP is. "Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lie beyond."
Griefer Troll Troll Industries	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:33:00 - [44] Originally by: Ghost Reaper yea good fight to tcf, and nice respect on the boards not to do wat CA and goons do, smack, smack, smack. Plus u have nice loot Gr lol posting 3 words isn't smack. Get real. Posting 3 words is going fishing, which caught an angry and blustering reply from you. Your post was more smacky than the one you were responding to hypocrite - and I would know, I am an expert in smack.
Ghost Reaper Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:34:00 - [45] Originally by: Griefer Troll Originally by: Ghost Reaper so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Gr Lol GR you walked right into that one. He posts 3 words and you are foaming at the mouth. Things can't be going that well for you. nah it just annoys me that they make a thread about a small insignificate fight, every time, or wen they win a fight they alwasy make a post. Over the wekend we have decimated so many of there fleets, killed some of there capitals, and the only post we make is a battle report about it. Which is then smacked about the same fight i mentioned at the start of this post
Griefer Troll Troll Industries	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:50:00 - [46] Originally by: Ghost Reaper Originally by: Griefer Troll Originally by: Ghost Reaper so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Gr Lol GR you walked right into that one. He posts 3 words and you are foaming at the mouth. Things can't be going that well for you. nah it just annoys me that they make a thread about a small insignificate fight, every time, or wen they win a fight they alwasy make a post. Over the wekend we have decimated so many of there fleets, killed some of there capitals, and the only post we make is a battle report about it. Which is then smacked about the same fight i mentioned at the start of this post Honestly I can inform you, as an expert of smacktalk, that the best thing you could possibly do is ignore them and not respond directly to them. Responding will encourage more of the same.
Omega Bloodstone Battlestars Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:52:00 - [47] Was a great weekend. I had alot of drunken adventures lol. "Good fight" to LV/BoB this weekend. This war truely has started. I cant remember the last weekend I only slept 4 hours a nightKeep comming, I hope more great fights are on the horizon!! Damn fun weekend!
Cassius Hawkeye Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 14:12:00 - [48] Originally by: Skrypt Smack aside, kudos to TCF for bringing in the big guns. QFT I have a lot of respect for TCF for what they do and how they do it. It seems that they do a lot of the "dirty work" for their coalition, risking a lot of their ships and caps deep in enemy territory. (i guess its a result of timezones) Yesturdays fight was good, and fortunatly turned our way, but im sure there are plenty more times to come. Again respect to TCF and your pilots. Lost my T2 BS the moment i warped in - nice calling! This post is my personal opinion only and does not represent my corps or alliances views.
Peeweegaskins	Posted - 2007.02.12 15:34:00 - [49] Originally by: Ghost Reaper Edited by: Ghost Reaper on 12/02/2007 00:14:47 TCF proceeded to attack are POS's in JV1v again, this time we wernt going to stand by and watch. Joint forces moved on the system with fleets and capitals, majority of TCF dreads jumped out leaving 2 dreads left with a carrier. TCF support fleet came in to protect there dreads leaving the route clear for are fleet to jump in. We then proceed to killing 2 of there dreads as well as a carrier with carriers and dreads, while our support fleet engage the TCF fleet. TCF fleet lost around 30 bs, support coalation lost around 15bs. Other fleet battles around the area resulted in heavy losses for TCF, which resulted in them pulling out later in the day, a 30+ man bs heavy gang left tenerifis area though detroid on route home. Around the Same time a small group of LV, mainly shinra pilots were hunting a goon friendly carrier. We probed down the carrier then jumped 4 carriers on top. Goon support warped in and got killed. End result, 1 carrier down 4-5 support dead. BOB fleet proceeded to kzf, goon strong hold and killed a small fleet (10bs, and a lot of asorted frigs and cruisers) before being blobbed by CA and SNIGG. They left the system en route down to HLW. A force of around 30 LV and 60 BOB setup a camp in n3-, hotile forces reaching 200 jump in and lag the system. LV and bob take significate losses, but goons and friends take a lot of losses to. All POS's in DG and jv1v beloning to LV were saved and charged back up, we await the attack at 3-6am as usaul. Gr i like it when they finally talk on the forum about their battle victory... What happend to the other systems you owned ? o-w ? and that surrounding area ?
Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 15:37:00 - [50] Originally by: Peeweegaskins Originally by: Ghost Reaper Edited by: Ghost Reaper on 12/02/2007 00:14:47 TCF proceeded to attack are POS's in JV1v again, this time we wernt going to stand by and watch. Joint forces moved on the system with fleets and capitals, majority of TCF dreads jumped out leaving 2 dreads left with a carrier. TCF support fleet came in to protect there dreads leaving the route clear for are fleet to jump in. We then proceed to killing 2 of there dreads as well as a carrier with carriers and dreads, while our support fleet engage the TCF fleet. TCF fleet lost around 30 bs, support coalation lost around 15bs. Other fleet battles around the area resulted in heavy losses for TCF, which resulted in them pulling out later in the day, a 30+ man bs heavy gang left tenerifis area though detroid on route home. Around the Same time a small group of LV, mainly shinra pilots were hunting a goon friendly carrier. We probed down the carrier then jumped 4 carriers on top. Goon support warped in and got killed. End result, 1 carrier down 4-5 support dead. BOB fleet proceeded to kzf, goon strong hold and killed a small fleet (10bs, and a lot of asorted frigs and cruisers) before being blobbed by CA and SNIGG. They left the system en route down to HLW. A force of around 30 LV and 60 BOB setup a camp in n3-, hotile forces reaching 200 jump in and lag the system. LV and bob take significate losses, but goons and friends take a lot of losses to. All POS's in DG and jv1v beloning to LV were saved and charged back up, we await the attack at 3-6am as usaul. Gr i like it when they finally talk on the forum about their battle victory... What happend to the other systems you owned ? o-w ? and that surrounding area ? Lol? We killed the CA POSs and still own them?
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.12 16:12:00 - [51] I like this outpost you built us in GB-. Thanks! And no, you can't have it back.
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 16:12:00 - [52] Because of the BUG on that POS the Gm told us todo anything and it would be replaced.. So bragg a big more. LV/BOB are always going to have better numbers to them winning is just killing more. The use of the titan gives them a 20/0 loss about everytime. (they don't post the 10-15 friendies they kill doing it) We don't care how many ships we lose, we don't care how good your kill ratio is, and we don't care how much ISK we spending taking your systems. WE ARE TAKING YOUR SYSTEMS. This war is not going to be fast at all. BOB took out ASCN fast but they didn't have the will to fight like us and they didn't have the orginization we have. We are coming for you everyday and everynight because we can!! Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Sabahl Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 16:35:00 - [53] Originally by: Cupdeez We are coming for you everyday and everynight because we can!! Cool! Cos I can't play all the time so knowing there's a 23/7 ship-buffet means I won't stress about getting home from work.
Omega Bloodstone Battlestars Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 19:25:00 - [54] Yes, k/l ratio means about the same to us as a 2 dollar bag of candy at the Dollar store. We are not fighting to fatten killboards, we are fighting around objectives which in fact dont to much take into account kills or losses unless they interfere with that set objective. In the long run eventually large alliances will learn the kill to loss ratios do not decide winners despite what our opposition feels, it only means theres a Titan on one side lol, or something like that. At the end of this shindig I think alot more Eve - o players will realize thisThere is a whole lot more to winning then the killboards, and a winner cannot be claimed until the war is...well..over, which is ...by my calcualations... not going to end on the Coilition side until LV are gone and Bob has surrendered it's offensives. YaRRYaRRHaRRHarr!! Again, good luck to all involved.
Exelsior Colossus Enterprises	Posted - 2007.02.12 19:33:00 - [55] Edited by: Exelsior on 12/02/2007 19:31:32
King Dave Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 19:40:00 - [56] Edited by: King Dave on 12/02/2007 19:38:48 Originally by: Cupdeez We don't care how many ships we lose, we don't care how good your kill ratio is, and we don't care how much ISK we spending taking your systems. What if you run out of isk!!! The way it's going, it's pretty obvious whos gonna run out of isk first ------------------------------- don't speak english... f1, f2, alt-q!
Valrea Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.12 20:13:00 - [57] Just after a King Dave's answer, wouw :) Good fight LV and BOB... I hope we'll do some more in future. And, to Shrike and Chowdown, thanks for humour in local in JV1V : -> Shrike to Chowdown, both in amarr titan : "we do a one vs one..." Cya on the battle field guys :) We fight, you'll die !
ezzle Intensive CareBearz Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 20:38:00 - [58] Originally by: Ghost Reaper so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob DEV fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y Corrected
N'olive FRENCH NAVY Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.12 21:00:00 - [59] I say the original post is fairly accurate and correct, aswell the rest of the details later in the topic, it's how it happened. Nice fight, and yes you're right, we're doing the dirty job, but remember many of us are frenches, people likes bashing us, so we're used to it, no problem.
Frothgar Caldari Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.02.12 21:45:00 - [60] From the POV of someone who just shoots anyone, if you lose a fleet to the goons you just plain lose. Doesn't matter how many you kill in the process.
WildHope Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 22:02:00 - [61] Originally by: Omega Bloodstone Was a great weekend. I had alot of drunken adventures lol. "Good fight" to LV/BoB this weekend. This war truely has started. I cant remember the last weekend I only slept 4 hours a nightKeep comming, I hope more great fights are on the horizon!! Damn fun weekend! Just don't take those 4 hours whilst sitting on a gate in 0-w next time! Wildhope ShinRa
Onchas Erivvia The Andromeda Directorate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 22:56:00 - [62] Originally by: Ghost Reaper so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y So I guess it's a good thing that they have no plans at coming at you with equal numbers. ------------------------------------------ 'Teh Onchinator' Personal Assistant to MrsPitman
Sabahl Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.13 10:36:00 - [63] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Originally by: Ghost Reaper so u won a fight, would u like to look at our killboard for the past weekend? Our kills are in the 1000's, dont be so arrogant becasue we all know if u came against a lv/bob bs fleet of equal numbers u wouldnt be so*****y So I guess it's a good thing that they have no plans at coming at you with equal numbers. If you blob, we will DD. If you don't blob, we will beat you with superior tactics/skill. How can you win?
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.13 10:47:00 - [64] Originally by: Sabahl If you blob, we will DD. If you don't blob, we will beat you with superior tactics/skill. How can you win? If we follow your logic, you shouldn't be losing your territory right now. Yet it's happening... ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types.
OozoO Caldari Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.13 10:54:00 - [65] Originally by: Sabahl If you blob, we will DD. If you don't blob, we will beat you with superior tactics/skill. How can you win? LV seems bitter and angry - how comes?
D2O HeavyWater Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.13 10:55:00 - [66] Sounds like a good time was had by all. Can't wait to get stuck in should be any day now.
Dylan Rhade Caldari UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.13 11:31:00 - [67] A couple of small points here. 1) Why do goons keep on harping about how we're loosing territory yadda yadda, ad nauseumm, How many times have you tried to take out DG- posses, and how many times have we repped them, you attack them again, we rep them again etc etc. We are holding fine and steady. 2) No matter what reassurences are made, reports made, people will always think they are biased writings, yet, why the hell do goons try and emphasize the fact its biased propaganda, when stating that kind of fact makes the poster of the emphasis, seem as though trying to grab the straw, shine it up and stick it in a museum, making the writer of said post seem pathetic by stating the obvious Get a grip, stop flaming every damn report made. I've heard of people cheering about a thread with no BOB postings, well right about now i suppose i would cheer for goon free one. D
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.02.13 11:35:00 - [68] The goon spam isn't actually that bad though is it? Insult their tech 1 frigateness but fgs drop the spam thing. These forums are as entertaining as they've ever been right now.
Cryus Aphax In The Face Productions	Posted - 2007.02.13 13:02:00 - [69] Originally by: Ghost Reaper BOB fleet proceeded to kzf, goon strong hold and killed a small fleet (10bs, and a lot of asorted frigs and cruisers) before being blobbed by CA and SNIGG. Wow.. BOB got blobbed? now THAT is a refreshing change.
Gregarius	Posted - 2007.02.13 18:16:00 - [70] Once in a the HUN Corp some old players cleared my fuzzy head who is winning a battle and who is losing. The definition is simple: who is looting after the battle.
Red Gabba Use Of Weapons	Posted - 2007.02.13 18:43:00 - [71] Edited by: Red Gabba on 13/02/2007 18:39:44 Nice write up Ghost, LV and Bob keep up the good work, don't let the goons win
Red Gabba Use Of Weapons	Posted - 2007.02.13 18:43:00 - [72] Edited by: Red Gabba on 13/02/2007 18:39:44 Nice write up Ghost, LV and Bob keep up the good work, don't let the goons win
Portios Smith Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 19:17:00 - [73] Originally by: Sabahl If you blob, we will DD. If you don't blob, we will beat you with superior tactics/skill. How can you win? I have been in many battles over the last few days, what I've seen from LV is better described as "inferior tactics"
Portios Smith Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 19:17:00 - [74] Originally by: Sabahl If you blob, we will DD. If you don't blob, we will beat you with superior tactics/skill. How can you win? I have been in many battles over the last few days, what I've seen from LV is better described as "inferior tactics"
LeMoose The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:22:00 - [75] Originally by: Portios Smith Originally by: Sabahl If you blob, we will DD. If you don't blob, we will beat you with superior tactics/skill. How can you win? I have been in many battles over the last few days, what I've seen from LV is better described as "inferior tactics" its called propagandA, komrad!
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.02.14 05:30:00 - [76] Originally by: Dylan Rhade 1) Why do goons keep on harping about how we're loosing territory yadda yadda, ad nauseumm Actually, I think the better question is why do LV members confuse Curse Alliance with goons posting again and again? You guys keep attributing things not said to them. Originally by: Dianabolic I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP.
Dearwin Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.02.14 06:46:00 - [77] I would just like to note that nothing in this post is ill/smack intentioned. I see a disturbing trend in the Battle Reports. Most of them now simply seem to be a list of numbers in system, who jumped into who, and who according to the OP won. They almost seem to be providing an excuse for the flame fests we all know are just waiting to happen. Im pretty sure Im not just speaking for myself here when I say when I open a Battle Report thread, I want story. I want a saga, a tale that makes me wish I had been able to be there, descriptions and actions and emotions. Not what basically seems to be a spreadsheet of numbers, we all have the links to the killboards, let the KBs do their job and the writers do theirs. P.S Sounds like both sides are having fun... My FC broke my pretty sig... Video: Beagle Fun
Skrypt Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.14 08:31:00 - [78] In another devastating blow to LV, 4 small, offlined POS's were destroyed in 77s this evening whilst we slumbered. 1 Large hostile POS was erected. No real casualties on either side. There looks to have been a nice, little skirmish between RA & LV on their return home. Check killboards for details. At this point, with the vast amount of space we've already lost, I think it'll only be a week or two until all of our stations are gone. ---------- "I know. I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men." ~ Malcolm Wallace (Braveheart)
Arriadna Gallente Night Guards	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:56:00 - [79] Originally by: Sabahl If you blob, we will DD. If you don't blob, we will beat you with superior tactics/skill. How can you win? Yesterday RA saw your superior tactics in DG. RA win 49:15 (16/6 bs). http://killboard.red-alliance.info/?op=fleet&name=52 Originally by: LeMoose Originally by: Portios Smith I have been in many battles over the last few days, what I've seen from LV is better described as "inferior tactics" its called propagandA, komrad! LV's propaganda
Aturayd Rome SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:04:00 - [80] It doesnt matter who has more kills, or has lost more money, or has more "killboard points." All that matters in this type of conflict is that at the end of the day, who controls what space and whose alliance is still standing. ----------------------------------- about:blank
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:07:00 - [81] Originally by: Crucifier What you seem to be forgetting is that, even though you can defend atm, you cant attack, neither of bob nor lv dare putting fourth dreads. And while thats going on bob is gonna be loosing its space. Don't point those things out to them!! Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Siri Blue Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:41:00 - [82] I'd really love to get a few battlereports in RP style...this war is so epic, the reports should show that in a way...pure numbers really isn't all... Good hunting to everyone!
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:50:00 - [83] Originally by: Siri Blue I'd really love to get a few battlereports in RP style...this war is so epic, the reports should show that in a way...pure numbers really isn't all... Good hunting to everyone! In the spirit of your request....enjoy a direct report from the grunts. We all do our little bits in the midst of the slugfest http://putstuff.putfile.com/47795/6199500 p.s. Commo vid done by our very own GhostSlayer....oh...nice WCS there Drake pilot...guess that space was not as secure as you'd hoped p.p.s. If I violated something by posting the link...apologies. "Lead me...Follow me...Or get the **** out of my way...." -General George Patton USA
Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.14 18:27:00 - [84] Originally by: Arriadna Originally by: Sabahl If you blob, we will DD. If you don't blob, we will beat you with superior tactics/skill. How can you win? Yesterday RA saw your superior tactics in DG. RA win 49:15 (16/6 bs). http://killboard.red-alliance.info/?op=fleet&name=52 We had 20 BS total, you had 41. We decided to fight anyway.
Sheriff Badden Amarr Legion Federation Amen Anera	Posted - 2007.02.14 18:55:00 - [85] Originally by: Siri Blue I'd really love to get a few battlereports in RP style...this war is so epic, the reports should show that in a way...pure numbers really isn't all... Good hunting to everyone! Yes, I agree, I'd love that too, don't get stuck on numbers, make movies and SHOW US how you pwnt somebody, more comments and interpretations! No need for threats, everyone knows you're at war.

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