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bullwyff
Old Farts
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Posted - 2007.02.13 14:47:00 -
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So like it seems i am screwed for the moment. I have all the stuff to Invent HULK BPCs included the Incognito Ship Data Interface module but i still cant do the job because CCP didnt fix it yet. So when are you going to fix this CCP. Do i have to wait long or not. Why bring in modules into game iff you even cant use them optimal. People spending big isk on all the stuff. Oke i only know since short you cant invent them yet maybe i should have read the forums and patch notes better. But still i would like to know when it is possibel to invent HULKs.Next patch or next year MAYBE
A answer from CCP or DEVs would be nice.
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zepter
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Posted - 2007.02.13 15:01:00 -
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How about never?
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Strel Samodelkin
Caldari Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2007.02.13 15:05:00 -
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Grrr! Hulk Angry!!! 
CEO
Caldari Nationalist Party
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Evula Moore
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Posted - 2007.02.13 15:08:00 -
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I'm for anything that drops the price of hulks, way over inflated right now.
The cheapest I've seen them going for (personally) is 500m, and thats rare.
There needs to be some competition in the market, as in invention.
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Edgars Sults
LFC
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.13 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Edgars Sults on 13/02/2007 15:06:51
Expecting that they will fix this is wishful tinking.
Look at the Chimera... For how long has it been too small? 
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bullwyff
Old Farts
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Posted - 2007.02.13 15:18:00 -
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Invention was the idea behind competition. But how can i compete when its not possibel to invent.
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.13 20:01:00 -
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Did you bugreport it? No? Bugreport it! Include as much information as possible, too.
Make Hulk happy!
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.13 20:01:00 -
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Did you bugreport it? No? Bugreport it! Include as much information as possible, too.
Make Hulk happy!
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.02.13 20:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Edgars Sults
Edited by: Edgars Sults on 13/02/2007 15:06:51
Expecting that they will fix this is wishful tinking.
Look at the Chimera... For how long has it been too small?
The Chimera is small because they're going to let it use stargates.
Honest, I'm totally not screwing with you.
Originally by: kieron
The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.02.13 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Edgars Sults
Edited by: Edgars Sults on 13/02/2007 15:06:51
Expecting that they will fix this is wishful tinking.
Look at the Chimera... For how long has it been too small?
The Chimera is small because they're going to let it use stargates.
Honest, I'm totally not screwing with you.
Originally by: kieron
The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Sessho Seki
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Posted - 2007.02.13 22:43:00 -
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Remember, Hulks aren’t used for combat, so clearly CCP doesn’t give a rat’s red rump about them… Frankly I’m still somewhat surprised that they even made mining barges, much less an elite version of them, after all, CCP has practically no interest in supporting the industrial base that keeps the game going, hence why it’s done absolutely nothing thus far about the joke of a T2 Lottery, err “Research System”, and to add insult to injury they sidestep the problems there by throwing another problem laden mess of Invention into the mix that only adding to the list of problems rather than solving them.
What more players need to do is rig their Hulks with smart-bombs and claim they are mission runners, then CCP would perhaps pay some attention to them and fix something for a change rather than always focusing on the next version of a combat ship that’s just like 3 others already in the game but with a different paint-scheme!
I’m all for PvE and PvP to any and all, but at the same time industry as usual is getting royally shafted with every time something new is put on the agenda and yet the same old issues persist with the core around which the entire galaxy’s economy and player-base rely and yet are continually ignored out-right even though there is a constant din ringing of the issues, complaints, and even whines to fix precisely those issues.
Perhaps what industrialists need to do is recruit more minmatar into their ranks, because clearly they are the final word in whining experience, maybe they could at least provide some pointers toward getting CCP to fix something for a change rather than promoting their next expansion, sub-expansion, and partial-sub-mini-small-almost-kinda-expansion.
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Mortania
Minmatar
Carbide Industries
Apocalyptica.
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Posted - 2007.02.13 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sessho Seki
Remember, Hulks arenÆt used for combat, so clearly CCP doesnÆt give a ratÆs red rump about themà Frankly IÆm still somewhat surprised that they even made mining barges, much less an elite version of them, after all, CCP has practically no interest in supporting the industrial base that keeps the game going, hence why itÆs done absolutely nothing thus far about the joke of a T2 Lottery, err ôResearch Systemö, and to add insult to injury they sidestep the problems there by throwing another problem laden mess of Invention into the mix that only adding to the list of problems rather than solving them.
What more players need to do is rig their Hulks with smart-bombs and claim they are mission runners, then CCP would perhaps pay some attention to them and fix something for a change rather than always focusing on the next version of a combat ship thatÆs just like 3 others already in the game but with a different paint-scheme!
IÆm all for PvE and PvP to any and all, but at the same time industry as usual is getting royally shafted with every time something new is put on the agenda and yet the same old issues persist with the core around which the entire galaxyÆs economy and player-base rely and yet are continually ignored out-right even though there is a constant din ringing of the issues, complaints, and even whines to fix precisely those issues.
Perhaps what industrialists need to do is recruit more minmatar into their ranks, because clearly they are the final word in whining experience, maybe they could at least provide some pointers toward getting CCP to fix something for a change rather than promoting their next expansion, sub-expansion, and partial-sub-mini-small-almost-kinda-expansion.
Hey, don't bring us Matari into this. Do you realize for how long being Minnie meant having the worst ships, the worst guns, the worst everything. Look at how many old time minnies are expert Gall ship fliers, etc.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.02.13 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tareen Kashaar
Did you bugreport it? No? Bugreport it! Include as much information as possible, too.
Unnecessary.
It has been stated by CCP that they are aware of that "problem", and it's on the "to do" list.
Right alongside T2 ammo and T2 drones, by the way.
SPR IIs got "fixed" apparently (they used to be uninventable too, now they're on the market), the rest not yet.
Now, why does it take so long, and what's the damn problem, that's the question.
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.02.14 00:22:00 -
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it will be in revelations 1.4 patch whenever that comes out not even on SISI yet.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.14 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sessho Seki
so clearly CCP doesnÆt give a ratÆs red rump about themà Frankly IÆm still somewhat surprised that they even made mining barges, much less an elite version of them, after all, CCP has practically no interest in supporting the industrial base that keeps the game going,
aww come on..you're not telling me that people actually pay money to look at an asteroid
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.02.14 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: bullwyff
So like it seems i am screwed for the moment. I have all the stuff to Invent HULK BPCs included the Incognito Ship Data Interface module but i still cant do the job because CCP didnt fix it yet. So when are you going to fix this CCP. Do i have to wait long or not. Why bring in modules into game iff you even cant use them optimal. People spending big isk on all the stuff. Oke i only know since short you cant invent them yet maybe i should have read the forums and patch notes better. But still i would like to know when it is possibel to invent HULKs.Next patch or next year MAYBE
A answer from CCP or DEVs would be nice.
Oveur 1, you 0
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Soporo
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Posted - 2007.02.14 02:04:00 -
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Quote:
There needs to be some competition in the market, as in invention.
Those are two words we dont see often in the same sentence. |
Divine Misconception
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Posted - 2007.02.14 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: zepter
How about never?
Hulk BPO owner Detected
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Shadow Dream
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Posted - 2007.02.14 02:08:00 -
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. Didn't you heard ? Hulks might make invention profitable.
. CCP dosen't wub inventors 
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Sessho Seki
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Posted - 2007.02.14 02:23:00 -
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Edited by: Sessho Seki on 14/02/2007 02:22:08
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Sessho Seki
so clearly CCP doesn’t give a rat’s red rump about them… Frankly I’m still somewhat surprised that they even made mining barges, much less an elite version of them, after all, CCP has practically no interest in supporting the industrial base that keeps the game going,
aww come on..you're not telling me that people actually pay money to look at an asteroid
As it pleases the court, I present:
Exhibit A: Every single person that has thus-far bought, traded for, or otherwise attained a Hulk (or even a Covetor for that matter), as their intention for its use is hardly for how “sleek and sexy” the body of the ship looks.
Exhibit B: This thread, while in-and-of itself isn’t a stamp of “I pay to play so I can mine”, it’s pretty clear the intent is to get more Hulks and to expand access to them through fixing the current muck-up in the invention system, and if someone is interested in the ship, it’s not a great leap of logic that they would intend to put said ship to use.
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Mister Poopypants
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Posted - 2007.02.14 02:57:00 -
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I'm guessing that the question of if or when it gets fixed depends on whether a dev in BoB owns the BPO...
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Mysterious Stranger
Caldari
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.14 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
aww come on..you're not telling me that people actually pay money to look at an asteroid
How about a hostile looking at an asteroid instead of at local?
Originally by: Sharkbait
please for the love of god read the dam stickies
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.02.14 03:16:00 -
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give us uber rare 20% yield asteroids
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FiNAL FiGHT
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Posted - 2007.02.14 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mister ****ypants
I'm guessing that the question of if or when it gets fixed depends on whether a dev in BoB owns the BPO...
chastise mode] why how dare YOU sir! thats a thing we were never to speak of, a time of the shadowparchments and he who walks behind the rows... [end whatever
the lack of serious response here is amazing. go team!
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bullwyff
Old Farts
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Posted - 2007.02.14 09:28:00 -
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emote/me still waits on a DEV to answer.
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Jon Hawkes
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.14 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: hotgirl933
give us uber rare 20% yield asteroids
Faction and Officer 'roids?
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Par'Gellen
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2007.02.14 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
aww come on..you're not telling me that people actually pay money to look at an asteroid
I do! I have an unnatural attraction to them. We won't go into details... 
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Dravin Dread
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Posted - 2007.02.14 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mortania
Hey, don't bring us Matari into this. Do you realize for how long being Minnie meant having the worst ships, the worst guns, the worst everything. Look at how many old time minnies are expert Gall ship fliers, etc.
But Minmatar girls look nice in their little goth outfits. Looking forward to seeing one of those walk around a station (CCP, heels please, spiked.) Heimatar might end up the most popular region in the game.
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.14 10:47:00 -
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The production costs of a Hulk are about 50 million...the sell price is about 550 million...lets see....1000% profit...nice...
Now...whatever happened to the "We got 10fold the population now compared to the point when we seeded the T2 BPOs and now its time that we tenfold the T2 BPOs as well"??
Invention is...meh...I want my RP spent on BPOs :/
But seeing that Invention is even bugged still is even more mehhh....
And as of industrialists being shafted....PvE in general gets ignored at least as much...
*shakes fists at the evil CCP pweerats*
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Blue Azur
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.15 07:56:00 -
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Bump for a CCP answer
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
Eye of God
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.02.15 08:07:00 -
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File a bug report and write this up in the development part of the forum 
And don't say "It won't matter so I wont do it" ..because then you're not really interested in having it fixed.
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Caine
Minmatar
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.02.16 01:58:00 -
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does anyone have a link to a dev post about this... I hear alot of hear say about it being a bug but no one knows where this info came from.
I fear as the hulk has no t1 version (coveter is a barge) hulks are just un-inventable.
Whats the odds that the devs hold all the BPO?
*cough*T20*cough*
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Dammar
Amarr
Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.02.16 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Divine Misconception
Originally by: zepter
How about never?
Hulk BPO owner Detected
Locater agent activated...
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2007.02.16 02:29
The sleazebag is currently at Inari VII - Moon 23 - Joint Harvesting Mining Outpost station in the Inari system of the Suon constellation.
With regards,
XXXXX XXXXX.
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This one's on me boys(and girls). You know what to do. 
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bullwyff
Old Farts
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Posted - 2007.02.16 11:05:00 -
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mmm a few days further and still no answer from DEVs or CCP. Starting to wonder iff they really read the forums or just having there own program and keeping us in the dark.
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Nardon
Gallente
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.02.16 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Nardon on 16/02/2007 11:21:29
Originally by: Caine
I fear as the hulk has no t1 version (coveter is a barge) hulks are just un-inventable.
Honestly you lost me there. In what sense is a hulk not a barge? Afaik it is referred in its description as elite barge. And the hull is a covetor.
Or are you thinking about the term exhumers? Well with that logic command ships wouldn't have a T1 version then as they descend from battle cruisers. I'm pretty sure this logic doesn't really make sense. ;)
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Lord Loom
Loom Service
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Posted - 2007.02.20 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nardon
Edited by: Nardon on 16/02/2007 11:21:29
Originally by: Caine
I fear as the hulk has no t1 version (coveter is a barge) hulks are just un-inventable.
Honestly you lost me there. In what sense is a hulk not a barge? Afaik it is referred in its description as elite barge. And the hull is a covetor.
Or are you thinking about the term exhumers? Well with that logic command ships wouldn't have a T1 version then as they descend from battle cruisers. I'm pretty sure this logic doesn't really make sense. ;)
it's not listed as a variant of a Covetor, hence it's technically not a T2 Covetor although practically it is - whether this has anything to do with whether it's possible to invent Hulks from Covetor BPs or not, I have no idea
as my corp is interested in getting into invention (and yes, of exhumers too) - what exactly doesn't work about Hulk invention yet? Clearly the invention tab has been added to the mining barge blueprints, so I'm curious about the state of this issue. Fixed? Broken and about to be fixed soon(tm) - but broken how exactly?
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Cloora
APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.02.20 21:39:00 -
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Hulks are T2 versions of Coveters or they are direct ripoffs fo the hull.
Either way fix invention for Hulks!
Cost of a Coveter is about 25 million ISK
Hulk is 550 million ISK.
So 12 times as much ISK for a marginal increase in ability to mine and a few more slots? I'll be in a Coveter for quite a while.
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zepter
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Posted - 2007.02.20 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dammar
Originally by: Divine Misconception
Originally by: zepter
How about never?
Hulk BPO owner Detected
Locater agent activated...
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2007.02.16 02:29
The sleazebag is currently at Inari VII - Moon 23 - Joint Harvesting Mining Outpost station in the Inari system of the Suon constellation.
With regards,
XXXXX XXXXX.
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This one's on me boys(and girls). You know what to do.
Good luck getting a Hulk BPO to drop from me
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