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Drethon
Gallente
Knights Hospitalier
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Posted - 2007.02.13 20:48:00 -
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The Federation does not spread lies. We have all heard the stories of slaves made submissive by drugs and implants. Of the Amarrian attack on the Minmitar home world and the slaughter of your own people.
If these are lies, then we have all been lied to. I leave it up to you do decide the truth of the matter.
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Drethon
Gallente
Knights Hospitalier
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Posted - 2007.02.13 21:43:00 -
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Yes drugs are a problem and they are just as illegal here as they are in the Empire. Can you prove to me that your high and mighty masters do not taste of the occasional illegitimate pleasure? Can you tell me that none of your citizens ever do anything illegal?
Is the Amarrian society really a haven of perfection or is it as simple as those who break the moral laws are "encouraged" to behave or simply disappear?
We are all mortals and mortals learn best by learning in our own individual way. If God did not want us to discover our own path we would be born with instruction manuals on how to progress though life.
The moment you tell a person that they cannot decided what to do with their own life, you take away one avenue for them to find their own way though life. You may be right, the Amarr may know the true path which everyone should follow. I however am not so arrogant to believe that my beliefs are more true than another's. I will not force my beliefs on you and if you force yours on me or anyone else I will defend our God given right to believe what we want.
In the end, God is our judge, not each other.
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Drethon
Gallente
Knights Hospitalier
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Posted - 2007.02.14 18:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Agustus Caesar
Originally by: Ostos Marek
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You can thank me later. This tale talks about what is generally agreed upon to be the spark that began the Matari revolution and the reason why your plea to join with the Ammatar will fall mostly on deaf ears. Now that you have your evidence and your claim has been disproven perhaps you should find another part of my argument to attempt to pick apart?
-Caesar
I do not ask the Amarr or those who would speak for them to deny that the Federation is not perfect and that we have made many mistakes. I merely ask them to stop denying their own mistakes and acknowledge that because they are not perfect that they cannot dictate though slavery or other methods what they think perfection is.
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Drethon
Gallente
Knights Hospitalier
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Posted - 2007.02.14 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ostos Marek
The Empire also does not claim it is perfect either, and slavery is not to try to force someone to perfection, for we all as humans can never be perfect. Slavery is to force service to God which in many cases leads to enlightenment, not force someone to perfection. The only perfect being is God, we just strive to be as close to him as possible by doing His will.
My apologies, perfection was too strong a term. While you may still disagree, perhaps I should have requested that you stop suggesting that Amarr know the correct path for everyone to follow when even you agree that there are those among you that do not follow the correct path. How are we whom you state are less enlightened to recognize the Amarr who are not following the correct path from those who are following the correct path?
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Drethon
Gallente
Knights Hospitalier
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Posted - 2007.02.15 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ostos Marek
You are right that Concord exists via an Invitation. They are there to keep law and order in check, BETWEEN the factions. The fact that they act as police is just a luxury given to them to spare loss of life on each of the factions sides. That invitation can be revoked at any time, by any of the factions. They hold no jurisdiction over any Empire, and thus if war comes again, Concord will lose all privleges they currently have.
Have you not noticed the strength that Concord has gained in the spaces of the empires? Particularly near the capitals or major systems? In all honesty Concord concerns me more than the possibility of your Emperor going insane and ordering the destruction of all non Amarr.
I've heard numerous stories of outlaws running from the navies of the empires and surviving but as soon as the perform the least transgression in sight of Concord, they are destroyed with an efficiency that would make a Titan tremble. Concord's intents appear to be honorable but they have so much power gathered over such a large space that they could take over a large portion of the empires before we could even react.
If they decided to stop slavery, you might just need God's help to stop them.
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