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ForeverKnight
Caldari
World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.14 16:07:00 -
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ditto, medium blasters or autocannons on a myrmidon for the win. I've seen someone using lasers on his myrmidon...a sight I hope I never witness again.
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ForeverKnight
Caldari
World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.14 17:50:00 -
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/agree with welsh wizard (nice sig BTW), sensor damps, blasters, drones. Scoop the drones when they take damage and pop them back out, it'll take anything above a frig forever to re-lock, and a frigate or AF will be dead in seconds anyway.
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ForeverKnight
Caldari
World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.14 18:01:00 -
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gotta comment that if tech 2 battleships ever come out you will probably have to have both Battleship and Battlecruiser 5
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ForeverKnight
Caldari
World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.14 18:32:00 -
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Let's compare how the Dominix stacks up against the Mega, which is a gunship.
It has 2 less highslots, 1 more mid, same lows. It has less powergrid so it can't really fit guns larger than electrons.
Now the Myrmidon has 1 less highslot than the Brutix, 1 more low, 1 more mid, it has _MORE_ powergrid than the brutix. Which just screams for a medium gun fitting in my opinion.
The myrmidon in my opinion is a combination gunship/droneship, because of its limited dronebay you shouldn't consider it a pure droneship. There have been several cases where I have been able to win fights with multiple smaller ships even when they were able to kill all my drones because I fit a full rack of heavy ions.
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ForeverKnight
Caldari
World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.14 18:55:00 -
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Because if I wanted something that moved like a battleship I'd have gotten a dominix for 15 mil more. Come to think of it I do have one for larger engagements. The Myrmidon is when you need the speed of a cruiser with the gank of a battleship. Small gang and 1 on 1 engagements. There you need to move fast and drop targets quick, which is where the med blasters come into play. Yeah a big fat tank is nice but I'd rather have a dominix with a big fat tank instead of a myrmidon with a big fat tank, especially since the dominix can fit spare drones.
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ForeverKnight
Caldari
World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.14 19:13:00 -
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To all that: because with my skills I can comfortably fit a full Tech 2 dual repper tank with a full rack of med ion blasters (Tech II) so why would I use anything smaller? All of that PG would go to waste. Also I hit just fine on cruisers when they are webbed with medium blasters using Void (skills again). Hell sometimes in gangs I fit a dual web setup and can even hit interceptors for full damage using Void.
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ForeverKnight
Caldari
World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.14 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: ForeverKnight on 14/02/2007 19:21:14
6x Heavy Ion II
MWD, Cap booster, 3x EW or web or scrambler mods
2x Medium armor repairers (faction or best named) 4x lowslots for hardeners or damage mods
And enough CPU to go around.
Not sure how I can fit a better ship if I had more PG and didn't want to fit a plate. If I was to use one electron blaster I could fit tech 2 med armor repairers.
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ForeverKnight
Caldari
World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.14 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: ForeverKnight on 14/02/2007 20:19:58
 Originally by: Tibrius Archer
Okay. named reppers just don't cut it. Best market listed named is 10% worse than tech 2 for repping and thus 10% worse Cap to Hp effceincy plus medium accoms cost a bomb these days. By forcing the use of those named reppers your throwing away a nice bit of extra tank and ISK. In all honestly it depends on your other slots. If you can use the slot you would otherwise use to raise the dps of light Neutron to medium ions level to increase your resistances by 10%+ then you have won.
Though as I said its not just a DPS choice Light guns really save cap when under heavy nos and the tracking enables the near insta popping of frigs and and enemy drones for that matter as drone ships get ever popular....
That's why I said faction, they are just as good as tech 2 albeit costing more, I can drop one gun size down and get tech 2 on there.
My setup has about the maximum sustainable tank (without plates) and can be configured different ways (EANMII's and DCU, Active hardeners, some mix etc.), and then puts the maximum gank on top of it (5x heavy ion II's, 1 electron II, or 6x heavy ion II's).
If I wanted a gank myrmidon I could use 6 heavy ions, 3 MFS II's in the lows and still be able to fit a wicked passive shield tank on top of that. But then I sacrifice all my midslots.
Thing is, if you want a plated tank, just go the extra mile and get a dominix for an extra 15 mil, and fit heavy nos/guns on it for even more gank than the myrmidon. If you have a myrmidon, don't waste its speed and repper bonus advantages for a plated tank.
If I come across a plated/small gun myrmidon there's a very easy way to beat it. Put Null into your blasters and stay at around 7.5-10 km. I'm faster than he is and I can tank his drones while killing them. After they're all dead I don't even need my drones to kill him, and the pop in and out trick doesn't quite work when you're more than point-blank away from your target.
The only thing that's better is a tech 2 autocannon Myrmidon ^.^ I'm working on that.
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ForeverKnight
Caldari
World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.14 20:51:00 -
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Nos+light neutrons would do better for endurance fighting. Like taking on a battleship or a heavily tanked battlecruiser. But just the raw DPS of med blasters+heavy drones is enought to pop a 1600mm plate-rax in less than 30 seconds for example. Nothing smaller than a battleship (or a passive shield tank) can tank that kind of damage for long.
Is it a specialized setup? Yes! Is it an effective setup? Yes! Is it fun to fly? Hell Yeah!
Not saying that nos-myrmidons don't have advantages, but to be quite honest, they are more geared toward people with lower SP who need the extra endurance than the gun setups.
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ForeverKnight
Caldari
World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.14 21:14:00 -
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The Myrmidon and Dominix can't be compared to each other....the myrmidon is the only Top-Tier drone ship in the game, the Dominix is a Bottom-Tier droneship.
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ForeverKnight
Caldari
World Order
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Posted - 2007.02.15 21:06:00 -
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bah in the end who cares? people with low SP prefer drones, nos, and missiles. People with more SP prefer guns because they can use them effectively. End of story.
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