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Mrs Ekko
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Phoenix Company Alliance
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Posted - 2016.04.08 11:21:11 -
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Hey,
Ive always been curious as to why there is not a shield version of this module?
Has this already been brought up in the past and has CCP given a reason behind this?
Thanks in advance!  |
ChromeStriker
Out of Focus
Odin's Call
1033
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Posted - 2016.04.08 11:23:54 -
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Mrs Ekko wrote:Hey, Ive always been curious as to why there is not a shield version of this module? Has this already been brought up in the past and has CCP given a reason behind this? Thanks in advance!
Shields and armour are different... this is one of those things... like shield amps or Slave implants....
Just because one has something doesnt mean the other has to too 
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Mrs Ekko
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Phoenix Company Alliance
3
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Posted - 2016.04.08 11:38:03 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Mrs Ekko wrote:Hey, Ive always been curious as to why there is not a shield version of this module? Has this already been brought up in the past and has CCP given a reason behind this? Thanks in advance! Shields and armour are different... this is one of those things... like shield amps or Slave implants.... Just because one has something doesnt mean the other has to too
True... but still... Would be nice to have |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
2610
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Posted - 2016.04.08 12:13:25 -
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you mean like a Adaptive Invulnerability Field?
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Mrs Ekko
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Phoenix Company Alliance
3
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Posted - 2016.04.08 12:17:50 -
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Lan Wang wrote:you mean like a Adaptive Invulnerability Field?
No, I mean like a Reactive Armor Hardener... a Module that switches resistances to the damage type you are taking most of. Im sure you know that tho... |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
2610
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Posted - 2016.04.08 12:36:46 -
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i guess it wouldnt be as useful in a shield situation as it takes a cycle to adjust the resistances, so in armor you have the whole shield to get through which gives the armour time to adjust the resistances before the ship hits armour.
shield you would be at a disadvantage with such a mod and a ward field etc would be more useful because its plugging the resistance hole from the start.
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Amanda Chan
Error 404 Corporation not found
Electroshock Therapy
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Posted - 2016.04.08 12:46:13 -
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Lan Wang wrote:i guess it wouldnt be as useful in a shield situation as it takes a cycle to adjust the resistances, so in armor you have the whole shield to get through which gives the armour time to adjust the resistances before the ship hits armour.
shield you would be at a disadvantage with such a mod and a ward field etc would be more useful because its plugging the resistance hole from the start.
Just a heads up, unless you take armor damage the resistances do not shift.
It would depend how they implemented it though. the RAH already is pretty beefy on cap for armor. Shields which are notoriously cap inefficient would probably be much worse.
That said, i'd not say no to module that provided up to 60% resistances that only stacked against a DC.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
2610
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Posted - 2016.04.08 12:52:02 -
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Amanda Chan wrote:Just a heads up, unless you take armor damage the resistances do not shift.
Didnt know that 
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2016.04.08 15:00:13 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Amanda Chan wrote:Just a heads up, unless you take armor damage the resistances do not shift. Didnt know that
Yup. It's why it's hardly ideal in a predominately high-alpha fight and intended to be useful in the long run after it's had enough time (or, in this case, cycles) to adjust and shift resist. Can't remember how many cycles it takes to fully shift, but it takes a few cycles at least.
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RcTamiya
Vexor Boss Issue
Ish-Stars
60
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Posted - 2016.04.08 15:17:02 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Amanda Chan wrote:Just a heads up, unless you take armor damage the resistances do not shift. Didnt know that Yup. It's why it's hardly ideal in a predominately high-alpha fight and intended to be useful in the long run after it's had enough time (or, in this case, cycles) to adjust and shift resist. Can't remember how many cycles it takes to fully shift, but it takes a few cycles at least.
3% shift per cycle, Cycletime is influenced by your Skills. |
Nalia White
Tencus
168
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Posted - 2016.04.09 16:15:40 -
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Lan Wang wrote:i guess it wouldnt be as useful in a shield situation as it takes a cycle to adjust the resistances, so in armor you have the whole shield to get through which gives the armour time to adjust the resistances before the ship hits armour.
shield you would be at a disadvantage with such a mod and a ward field etc would be more useful because its plugging the resistance hole from the start.
i always thought armor has to take damage for the module to shift the resistances. never checked if it already does in shield though tbh.
edit, sorry, has been answered already, silly me |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Snuffed Out
9785
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Posted - 2016.04.09 16:28:16 -
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The Reactive Armor Hardener was created by the DEVs to placate armor tankers.
Around that time, Ancillary Shield Boosters were the FOTM and superior to the Ancillary Armor Repair in many ways (and still is).
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Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
Team Amarrica
527
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Posted - 2016.04.11 01:37:00 -
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2 words... Passive regen.
Combine that with adaptive resists and an ASB you have some stupid op tanks.
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
1119
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Posted - 2016.04.11 13:04:15 -
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because shield isnt armor. If they should be all the same, we wouldnt need them both. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
17665
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Posted - 2016.04.17 03:05:18 -
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Mrs Ekko wrote:Hey, Ive always been curious as to why there is not a shield version of this module? Has this already been brought up in the past and has CCP given a reason behind this? Thanks in advance!
Same place as the overheatable omni resist armour hardener
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
280
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Posted - 2016.04.18 10:55:40 -
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Hard to fit a shield tanked ship for pvp already due to middle slots issue and I doubt pve players would give up hardeners for it. However, a low slot module will prob replace all the dcus currently used in shield fits.
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