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Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
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Posted - 2016.05.13 18:50:45 -
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Let's clarify the ops point. Because why not.
The issue is that citadels are vulnerable and warrant attack, vs the current pos system setup.
People don't like shooting pos's because of.. Two reasons. The first is the pos shield itself. This removes the capability of close range ammo from hitting it (no blaster talos, etc)
The other is that pos's take a bigger beating. A small gang can attack a citadel and win. A small gang isn't killing a pos without a dread dropping on it for times sake.
This will hurt small gangs a ton in Wspace because small gangs would generally range around 3 to 6 a night, not 30 to 50 a night. It's just easier to siege a citadel than it is a pos.
Now Wspace don't like pos's. We hate setting them up, managing them, assigning roles, etc. we generally don't like citadels because of their vulnerability to virtually any fleet setup. Have a few guns and 3 logi, go siege a citadel and generate a fight. That's the intial thought but for defense purposes, this will create more mega groups and alliances in Wspace. This also gives the pvp people easy pve fodder to evict... Potentially that is as a bunch are moving out.
Expect more people to leave Wspace when t3's go under the knife. Pve will die a pretty violent death unless those pve entities are under the protection of a pvp entity, and that won't realistically work out well due to how Wspace is setup.
Is it worth running a pve Corp in Wspace and anchoring a citadel with as they have no deterrent power themselves.....
That's the question.
Yaay!!!!
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Som Boty
Super Mother Fan Club
38
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Posted - 2016.05.15 02:35:48 -
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I'm a solo wh sweller, with the current wh dynamics and citadel mechanics I won't be replacing my POS with a citadel anytime soon. I mean ****, I don't even have guns on one of my POS for the last three weeks and its STILL better than a citadel. |
Ni Neith
Hedion University Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2016.05.15 23:54:29 -
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RemSalak wrote: - Streamlining probing to track ships down faster(this works for everyone but is most useful in a WH environment) - Making Ore sites in WH's automatically warpable instead of having to scan them down(Blob groups don't mine Ores in WH space) - Making wormholes open only AFTER someone has jumped through.(allowing Blob groups to amass in full readyness for a gank) - Adding extra static's and making WH's appear more often in all WH space(Again, for the blobs to search out more targets since small groups can't be bothered with all the scanning involved)...
WH space is not for you. You should get (back) to nullsec. There you even have a local to be more safe. |
Som Boty
Super Mother Fan Club
38
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Posted - 2016.05.16 05:38:18 -
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Ni Neith wrote:RemSalak wrote: - Streamlining probing to track ships down faster(this works for everyone but is most useful in a WH environment) - Making Ore sites in WH's automatically warpable instead of having to scan them down(Blob groups don't mine Ores in WH space) - Making wormholes open only AFTER someone has jumped through.(allowing Blob groups to amass in full readyness for a gank) - Adding extra static's and making WH's appear more often in all WH space(Again, for the blobs to search out more targets since small groups can't be bothered with all the scanning involved)...
WH space is not for you. You should get (back) to nullsec. There you even have a local to be more safe.
Says the guy hiding behind a forum alt. |
Ni Neith
Hedion University Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2016.05.16 08:13:47 -
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Som Boty wrote:[quote=Ni Neith]
Says the guy hiding behind a forum alt.
Have you a problem with that? |
Ni Neith
Hedion University Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2016.05.16 08:17:39 -
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Som Boty wrote:
Says the guy hiding behind a forum alt.
Have you a problem with that?
Som Boty wrote:I'm a solo wh sweller, with the current wh dynamics and citadel mechanics I won't be replacing my POS with a citadel anytime soon. I mean ****, I don't even have guns on one of my POS for the last three weeks and its STILL better than a citadel.
Try to be a solo nullsec or lowsec dweller (your own pos, citadel) and then you come back and complain. |
helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
469
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Posted - 2016.05.16 09:01:25 -
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edit. I must learn to behave...
They are BOB's flock in need of a shephard.
"... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where eve is placed... not in cave..." | zoonr-Korsairs | QFT !
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1447
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Posted - 2016.05.16 15:43:42 -
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There are problems in wh space, however OP has not outlined any of them ;D |
Som Boty
Super Mother Fan Club
38
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Posted - 2016.05.17 00:15:39 -
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Ni Neith wrote:Som Boty wrote:
Says the guy hiding behind a forum alt.
Have you a problem with that? Som Boty wrote:I'm a solo wh sweller, with the current wh dynamics and citadel mechanics I won't be replacing my POS with a citadel anytime soon. I mean ****, I don't even have guns on one of my POS for the last three weeks and its STILL better than a citadel. Try to be a solo nullsec or lowsec dweller (your own pos, citadel) and then you come back and complain.
I've been playing for almost 13 years... I used to run reactions in low sec. What's your point? |
Ni Neith
Hedion University Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2016.05.17 10:17:54 -
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Som Boty wrote: I've been playing for almost 13 years... I used to run reactions in low sec. What's your point?
Solo pos from some one man corp in lowsec? Give me a break please. My point is that you still can be solo in WHs and krab like a mad man while you can't do it any where else in hostile space. |
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Unconspicous Alt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2016.05.17 17:27:43 -
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Carrion Crow wrote:I think the OP should be excited about Citadels. Unlike a POS, I think a citadel will give small corps the chance to actually fight back - or at least hurt the attackers ;)
You can tank everything a LARGE citadel can throw at you with just 2 T2 cruisers. You can take it down with 5 battleships.
Now try do this with a deathstar pos, even if set on automatic defense, and tell me how the citadel is supposed to be a replacement for that. |
Som Boty
Super Mother Fan Club
39
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Posted - 2016.05.17 18:46:21 -
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Ni Neith wrote:Som Boty wrote: I've been playing for almost 13 years... I used to run reactions in low sec. What's your point?
Solo pos from some one man corp in lowsec? Give me a break please. My point is that you still can be solo in WHs and krab like a mad man while you can't do it any where else in hostile space.
It's true, wormholes are one of the safer places to be a low sec/null sec solo player, but its not the ONLY place. |
Rek Seven
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
2227
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Posted - 2016.05.18 08:35:54 -
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Som Boty wrote:Try to be a solo nullsec or lowsec dweller (your own pos, citadel) and then you come back and complain.
I had a solo pos in low sec, where i mined a moon for a while...
You can crab in any part of space without a pos but if you choose to live in a region, wormholes are the only place where a POS is required, as opposed to High, low and null sec (NPC) all having station.
The wishlist is pretty much complete...
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1448
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Posted - 2016.05.18 09:54:00 -
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Unconspicous Alt wrote:Carrion Crow wrote:I think the OP should be excited about Citadels. Unlike a POS, I think a citadel will give small corps the chance to actually fight back - or at least hurt the attackers ;)
You can tank everything a LARGE citadel can throw at you with just 2 T2 cruisers. You can take it down with 5 battleships. Now try do this with a deathstar pos, even if set on automatic defense, and tell me how the citadel is supposed to be a replacement for that.
Well this is just a straight up lie |
George Gouillot
Black Fox Marauders
107
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Posted - 2016.05.21 06:59:54 -
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Unconspicous Alt wrote:
You can tank everything a LARGE citadel can throw at you with just 2 T2 cruisers. You can take it down with 5 battleships.
Both wrong. |
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