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Dtm17	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:21:00 - [1] Yesterday, after almost a month of slowly training my electronics lvl 5, i got my cloaking lvl 3 and installed my tech 2 cloaking device. I quickly found some rats, to see what i could do, suffice to say i was a "little" dissapointed I finally thought i could have a proper poke around low sec space in relative safety with my new toy. now, lets see, cant cloak within 2k of anything, Cant cloak warp, can only cloak for about 2minz, then have to wait 20 seconds before cloaking again, massive drain in speed, massive cap penality, cant cloak while targeted. This seems ridiculous! anyone would have thought ccp dont want people buying cloaks! As horrible as it is, i could still live with it if it wasnt for one thing.......you cant cloak even before you are targeted, and you are just being locked! I mean....the thing is next to useless! Im seriously begining to regret training the skill. Maybe im just missing the point (i hope so!) Does anyone else actually manage to find a decent use for this thing? Dtm17
Imechal Ravpeim International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:22:00 - [2] Hiding is pretty useful.
TxShadow LEG1ON	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:23:00 - [3] That is because you should have done your homework first, and learned that you'll need to get Covert Ops frigates to warp around cloaked 24/7. And a special cloak at that I believe, the prototype one, but I'm not 100% sure on that since I dont fly Cov. Ops... yet.
Maxine Blade	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:28:00 - [4] So far, it's good for killing Ore Thieves. You just need to mount sensor boosters to make up for the bad locking time.
Grytok	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:29:00 - [5] There are exactly 3 Shis, which can make use of a Cloaking Devices. Covert Ops Stealth Bomber Force Recon Ship Covert Ops and Force Recon are the only ones, which can fit the CoverOps Claoking Device II, because they have a Bonus therefore. The Stealth Bomber only gets a Bonus for velocity, when cloaked. Read the Module and Ship Descriptions and you're fine .
Red Crown	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:31:00 - [6] Yes, you are missing the point. A cloak is excessivly useful in 0.0, especially with haulers. And you stay cloaked until something uncloaks you.
Dtm17	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:31:00 - [7] Aye, covert ops sound good, spose im half way there now as for ore thieves, i was thinking about that, but wou would need to stay cloaked for longer than 2 minutes to spot them though would'nt you?
Marquis Dean Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:49:00 - [8] When i'm ratting in 0.0 I always fit a cloak, just a cheap T1 prototype. When you're ratting you offline it so it doesn't nerf your locking range/time, when baddies enter the system, you online it, safespot, and cloak, and then nothing will find you. Also, I put one on my Crow for observing eneny movements around gates. Is very useful. ------ ------ Originally by: Crag Heyder I'm not talking FPS here, it's SPF.
Sandeep Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:56:00 - [9] can only cloak for about 2minz -- Wrong massive cap penality -- Wrong cant cloak while targeted -- Otherwise it will be super overpowered! you cant cloak even before you are targeted, and you are just being locked -- Wrong ----- n-1. ??? n. Profit!
Sandeep Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Marquis Dean When you're ratting you offline it so it doesn't nerf your locking range/time It lowers your scan res when you fit it, regardless of online status. ----- n-1. ??? n. Profit!
Bardi MecAuldnis Amarr Pirates of Destruction Union Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:59:00 - [11] Originally by: Sandeep can only cloak for about 2minz -- Wrong massive cap penality -- Wrong cant cloak while targeted -- Otherwise it will be super overpowered! you cant cloak even before you are targeted, and you are just being locked -- Wrong Thank you, I was about to post the same thing. --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!!
Atrial Quartz Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:08:00 - [12] When an enemy ship starts to target you you can not cloak. This makes no sence as the reason I WANT to cloak is so that he dosen't lock on and fire. This is what makes the stealth bomber nigh useless for now. There is rumr of CCP adding a area effect mass dammage weapon for SB's that might make them a viaable weapon but for now they are just a passing curiosity.
Sandeep Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2007.02.17 01:48:00 - [13] Originally by: Atrial Quartz When an enemy ship starts to target you you can not cloak. ... If a lock hasn't been acquired (hasn't = no yellow blinking frame), you can cloak and it will succeed (if all other criteria are met). I've tried it many times yesterday. ----- n-1. ??? n. Profit!
BlackMoon Thrawn the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:39:00 - [14] Originally by: Atrial Quartz When an enemy ship starts to target you you can not cloak. This makes no sence as the reason I WANT to cloak is so that he dosen't lock on and fire. This is what makes the stealth bomber nigh useless for now. There is rumr of CCP adding a area effect mass dammage weapon for SB's that might make them a viaable weapon but for now they are just a passing curiosity. How do you know he is locking you?
Jennifer Meek Gallente Planck Bubble Generation Technologies	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:47:00 - [15] Originally by: BlackMoon Thrawn Originally by: Atrial Quartz When an enemy ship starts to target you you can not cloak. This makes no sence as the reason I WANT to cloak is so that he dosen't lock on and fire. This is what makes the stealth bomber nigh useless for now. There is rumr of CCP adding a area effect mass dammage weapon for SB's that might make them a viaable weapon but for now they are just a passing curiosity. How do you know he is locking you? Because the message is confusing and it says "you cant cloak while being targeted", when it should read "You cant cloak while you are targeted" ---
VJ Maverick Caldari Maverick Specialized Services	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:48:00 - [16] Originally by: Marquis Dean When you're ratting you offline it so it doesn't nerf your locking range/time, It reduces your scan resolution regardless of whether it's online or not. The very act of fitting the cloak to your ship makes you subject to the penalty. If you don't notice it than that's one hell of a placebo effect.
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:56:00 - [17] Originally by: Dtm17 Yesterday, after almost a month of slowly training my electronics lvl 5, i got my cloaking lvl 3 and installed my tech 2 cloaking device. I quickly found some rats, to see what i could do, suffice to say i was a "little" dissapointed I finally thought i could have a proper poke around low sec space in relative safety with my new toy. now, lets see, cant cloak within 2k of anything, Cant cloak warp, can only cloak for about 2minz, then have to wait 20 seconds before cloaking again, massive drain in speed, massive cap penality, cant cloak while targeted. This seems ridiculous! anyone would have thought ccp dont want people buying cloaks! As horrible as it is, i could still live with it if it wasnt for one thing.......you cant cloak even before you are targeted, and you are just being locked! I mean....the thing is next to useless! Im seriously begining to regret training the skill. Maybe im just missing the point (i hope so!) Does anyone else actually manage to find a decent use for this thing? Dtm17 Read up on game mechanics, didnt you? Get a recon or covert ship and you can cloak/warp. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
Aston Gulliver Gallente Kudzu Collective	Posted - 2007.02.17 06:00:00 - [18] Originally by: Red Crown Yes, you are missing the point. A cloak is excessivly useful in 0.0, especially with haulers. And you stay cloaked until something uncloaks you. What my corp mate said. Mr. Thread Starter, you have obviously not flown in 0.0. I would take a cloak on pretty much any setup: ratting, pvp, hauling.... Hiding can be very useful.

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