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Posted - 2011.12.18 13:45:00 -
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I'll start by saying that this isn't a bug, it sounds like everything is functioning ok.
However I will raise this with the team to see if this is valid gameplay or if this is considered an exploit and report back here.
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Posted - 2011.12.18 17:02:00 -
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Rixiu wrote:Sounds simple enough to fix, in order for it to be transferred it has to be at 100% health and most defiantly not in post-reinforced mode.
I can see valid reasons for people wanting to transfer ownership after it has been put into reinforce so instead we might just guard against transferring when it has been attacked recently.
But like I said, I'm not giving any answers just yet because it is a Sunday and I need to talk with a few people first.
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Posted - 2011.12.19 17:20:00 -
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Ok so an update on this, we are going to deny transferring ownership while the customs office is being attacked using the normal 15 min cool down on aggression. The real problem here is that players can be tricked into taking a security status hit or entering into combat outside of a wardec without realizing it.
Transferring ownership after a POCO has been put into reinforce for example is still valid and while this does allow owners to force an aggressor who they are at war with to take a security hit they will still be able to decide before hand if they want to do this and not unknowingly engage an owner they are not at war with.
I have hassled people today so that we can get this onto TQ this week but that will ultimately depend on QA checking it so fingers crossed.
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Posted - 2011.12.19 17:47:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Ok so an update on this, we are going to deny transferring ownership while the customs office is being attacked using the normal 15 min cool down on aggression. The real problem here is that players can be tricked into taking a security status hit or entering into combat outside of a wardec without realizing it.
Transferring ownership after a POCO has been put into reinforce for example is still valid and while this does allow owners to force an aggressor who they are at war with to take a security hit they will still be able to decide before hand if they want to do this and not unknowingly engage an owner they are not at war with.
I have hassled people today so that we can get this onto TQ this week but that will ultimately depend on QA checking it so fingers crossed. So can we infer then that if someone keeps the PCO under fire for the duration of it being reinforced, that they can prevent it changing hands? (note: I'm far from expert on the mechanics of reinforced mode)
Not during shield reinforcement because you cannot target it to aggress it. However you could in theory keep attacking it with a tiny amount of damage before it reaches reinforcement just to prevent a transfer, but I wouldn't want to wait around AFK to see what the owner thinks about that.
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:15:00 -
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Asthariye wrote:Thank you for this, Nullarbor. That will help a lot.
Any comment on the additional problems this causes in militia regarding the faction standings loss bug alluded to several times above? The inability to switch ownership while it's actively under fire will go some way towards remedying the effect of that but ultimately the bug, and thus the problem, still exists - even if a militiamember chooses to take the GCC he still has the additional problem of having to take and petition the standings loss. Is anyone even aware of this (regularly petitioned and reported) bug, is there a fix coming?
Not as part of this fix but I keep hearing faction warfare being mentioned in the planning for 2012, which I am quite excited about having flown in the militia myself for a while before joining CCP. So hopefully the issues with standings and alt corps messing with FW business can be reviewed soon(tm).
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:21:00 -
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Soi Mala wrote:How about area of effect weapons?
Customs offices are not affected by smart bombs or bubbles etc
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Posted - 2011.12.20 01:27:00 -
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Tammarr wrote:Patchwork Fixes Aint Fixes when the Mechanic remains broken
I agree and the concept of moving assets or characters between corporations at war is not limited to customs offices. So rather than make an exception here the whole system should be reviewed instead. A special case for customs offices would be both patchwork and inconsistent.
There is also value in allowing players to arrange an amicable transfer after having been put into reinforce.
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