Originally by: Seleene

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Originally by: Kozak

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I believe Cyvok made them an offer, they didn't take it.

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Cyvok never offered us a deal against BoB.

Since this big war has started no one has bothered to contact us with regard to attack BoB since, obviously, we're puppets.

People should realize, however, that the MC is not an alliance of 500 or 1000 people. We can't put up fleets of 150-200 people nightly so AAA's attack on our territory will be dealt with in whatever manner we can manage. Honestly, I think ET just wants a good challange and some nice fights. We're down with that and will be happy to oblige. If the goal is actually to remove us from our home, then that changes things quite a bit. We'll do what we are forced to do to survive.

Persoanlly, I'd be just fine watching the galaxy burn itself down around us and then offer our services to the highest bidder afterwards.

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Originally by: PMolkenthin

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I could never understand why so many people are so interested in MC's relations, and our affairs.

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Originally by: rodgerd

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Edited by: rodgerd on 18/02/2007 08:54:44

Originally by: Cabadrin

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What the coalition chooses to do is their own matter. The MC doesn't see any of them as hostile unless they attack us, or unless someone pays us to attack them. We encourage members of the coalition to contact us to pursue business relationships.

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The funny thing is that on another Eve-related forum I frequent I have an MC pilot claiming MC are on BoB's side. May I assume he is simply talking out of turn? And should I advise him to ask his leadership before stating MC positions?

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Originally by: Omega Man

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Originally by: PMolkenthin

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I could never understand why so many people are so interested in MC's relations, and our affairs.

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That should be obvious in the current climate.

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Originally by: Marko Debreault

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So I initiated contact with FATAL. Out of the blue. I convoed them, they seemed reasonable, so I offered to come fight on their side.

The rest is history.

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Originally by: Virtuozzo

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Originally by: Marko Debreault

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So I initiated contact with FATAL. Out of the blue. I convoed them, they seemed reasonable, so I offered to come fight on their side.

The rest is history.

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Maybe it is an idea to check up with your pilots in regards to their postings elsewhere :P Such control measures, well, um, help with controlling tin foil hat stuff.

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Originally by: Lena Crews

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I think you could think of MC as Canada... to BoB's USA.

Is Canada independent from the US? Of course. They are their own entity and can do whatever they want. But they'll never declare war on the US. First of all... they'd be crushed. Second of all, you don't crap in your back yard. Third... a significant portion of their population have French genes.

All the same applies to MC (except possibly the French thing, but I'm willing to bet there are some Gallente's in their alliance somewhere).

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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Oh and IAC's official response to ISS's offer is lollerskates.

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Originally by: nickky01

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Originally by: Lena Crews

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I think you could think of MC as Canada... to BoB's USA.

Is Canada independent from the US? Of course. They are their own entity and can do whatever they want. But they'll never declare war on the US. First of all... they'd be crushed. Second of all, you don't crap in your back yard. Third... a significant portion of their population have French genes.

All the same applies to MC (except possibly the French thing, but I'm willing to bet there are some Gallente's in their alliance somewhere).

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i dunno...i'm pretty sure if someone attacked canada the US wouldn't help defend

usa! usa! usa!

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Indeed. We are here for fights, otherwise - it would be 30 large pos installed in any of your station systems. For 2 months of "no conflicts" we become too fat Time for shooty shooty.

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Originally by: Apple Boy

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although MC can be annoying, having been wardeced by them when BoB hired them, I can also say they have class and I doubt anyone could make that group their puppets.

If MC were BoB's puppets, why don't they still have the whole North wardeced? instead they've wardeced prison break inc (who are they?). I also don't see them hanging around trying to kill us up north or where we run ops out of. Isn't that proof enough?

Although I still will shoot all MC I see in 0.0, I must give them props and respect for fighting honorably (not trying to use any sort of exploit afaik) and keeping the chat clean (no smack talk). They're damn good at what they do, and they have a very good niche. By the way, they can also put up one hell of a fight

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Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch

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Originally by: Laythun

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Ok.

MC outposts are in BOB space. 2 + 2 = ?

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MC outposts are in MC space. Since you claim to be there perhaps you can see the sovreignity in the top left hand corner.

Drugs = bad!

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Originally by: Constantine Arcanum

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most problems can be solved with chloroform.

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Originally by: batloard

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Originally by: Agent Kenshin

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Originally by: Fabian Amrhein

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Originally by: batloard

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even though i agree that MC work independantly, they are deffinetly allied to bob, after todays events, MC was reinforced by 2 bob titans + fix + DL + fallen.

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and this tells us .. MC is to weak to stay on their own feeds

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You think BoB was gonna miss a chance to kill another titan.

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how did they know it was even there? hell i didnt even know up until now

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Originally by: Kaeten

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MC's stations are in BOB's space. Or why isn't the official terrotory map saying otherwise.

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Originally by: Kaeten

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MC's stations are in BOB's space. Or why isn't the official terrotory map saying otherwise.

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Originally by: GoGo Yubari

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Originally by: Kaeten

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MC's stations are in BOB's space. Or why isn't the official terrotory map saying otherwise.

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It's interesting how powerful the media can be. The logic of this argument is the same as in saying "it must be true, I saw it on tv."

The map is not the territory.

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Originally by: Constantine Arcanum

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most problems can be solved with chloroform.

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Originally by: The Beatnuts

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*snip* AAA =! RA *snip*

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Originally by: Lena Crews

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I think you could think of MC as Canada... to BoB's USA.

Is Canada independent from the US? Of course. They are their own entity and can do whatever they want. But they'll never declare war on the US. First of all... they'd be crushed. Second of all, you don't crap in your back yard. Third... a significant portion of their population have French genes.

All the same applies to MC (except possibly the French thing, but I'm willing to bet there are some Gallente's in their alliance somewhere).

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Originally by: Lena Crews

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I think you could think of MC as Canada... to BoB's USA.

Is Canada independent from the US? Of course. They are their own entity and can do whatever they want. But they'll never declare war on the US. First of all... they'd be crushed. Second of all, you don't crap in your back yard. Third... a significant portion of their population have French genes.

All the same applies to MC (except possibly the French thing, but I'm willing to bet there are some Gallente's in their alliance somewhere).

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Originally by: JForce

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Question 2 - MC - Reports from third parties have MC scouts giving intel to BoB on forces that are NOT part of the attack on MC home space. Whilst I can understand passing intel on the forces hostile to you to anyone who might shoot at them, passing intel to BoB on forces not attacking you but hostile to them is the closest thing yet to a statement of siding with BoB. Your own statement by Seleene in this thread says you've been forced to side with BoB as that's how everyone sees you anyway...is that an official position then?

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Originally by: Rawstyle

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Edited by: Rawstyle on 17/02/2007 15:09:55
MC have always said that if the offer/situation was right they would indeed attack BoB. However, due to the situation they have put themselves in (ie. living in bob space blah blah) there will never be an offer/situation where it would be benificial for the MC to accept a contract on bob.

The MC chose this course of events for several reasons;

1. BoB space has traditionally been the most secure/least threatened of all the 0.0 territories, therefore affording thier new home the greatest security available in 0.0.

2. Once installed, it would NEVER be in thier intrest to attack bob.....so they would never have too. This allows them, to some degree, to keep up the air of neutrality that a merc corp needs to continue to get work.

There by killing two troublesome birds with one handy stone.

When Seleen said they would attack bob for if the time/money/stratergy was right, he was speaking the truth. He has just engineered the path his alliance has taken so that it will never be in thier intrest to attack BoB.

Any attack on bob's security is, by nature, an attack on the mc's as well. So they can claim all they like that AAA threw the first stone and decided their place in this conflict for them, but the nature of security dictates that they would have to side with bob, no matter how 'unbiased' thier work requires them to appear.

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Originally by: GoGo Yubari

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Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf

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Ever heard of Wolf's Dragoons.....

I've watched on the sidelines for a long time but Mercenary Coalition reminds me an lot of Wolf's Dragoons from Battletech.

Wolf's Dragoons appeared on the edge of known space. They heralded themselves as mercenaries. They were great fighters, that cannot be denied. They seemed to have great supply lines that noone could figure out.

This lasted for many years until they had worked for all of the major houses, and many of the minor houses and warlords.

It was all a lie though. Wolf's Dragoons was the foward spies of the Clan. While they did fulfill their contracts they also spied upon their employers, making note of important sites dedicated to mech construction, training grounds, naval yards, etc.

They provided this information to the Clans when the Clans invaded. The Clans were already technologically superior to the Houses. The early part of the war went very much in the Clans favor.

Anyway I bring this up because ever since I started playing and reading the forums, the Mercenary Coalition in the back of my mind has reminded me of the tales of Wolf's Dragoons.

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Interesting viewpoint. I'm an old Btech fan and the Dragoons kick ass, so I sort of like the comparison. I'd just like to remind you that the Dragoons ended up helping the Inner Sphere, though. But yeah, unfortunately your theory isn't correct and we probably aren't secret Jovian spies with t3 ships sent to assess current 0.0 alliance capabilities, even though that would be seriously frickin' cool.

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