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RedLion
Caldari evenova
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Posted - 2007.02.17 14:29:00 -
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I find rigs drawbacks too high,
Trying to find a way to use missile rigs, but there is just no way my cpu can take the burden. The Gallenteans must be destroyed. |

Serkis
Caldari The Funkalistic SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.17 14:31:00 -
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I have no problems with it, either you are overfitting or lack skills.
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Jarjar
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.02.17 14:48:00 -
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I have no experience with this, buuut: Make sure that you train the appropriate rigging skill to at least level 4, to reduce the drawback. Also, make sure that you have an implant that reduces the CPU usage of launchers.
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Lord Loom
Loom Service
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Posted - 2007.02.17 16:32:00 -
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IMO what's more of an issue is that the drawbacks aren't balanced at all - some very useful rigs have no drawbacks at all (*cough* cap recharge rig *cough*), others have drawbacks which are pretty much irrelevant (ie. cargohold optimization, you're not gonna put them on a tanked DST anyway), others are really serious (like the ones you mentioned). I'd like to see 1) seriously decreased material requirements to build them and/or noticeably increased drop rates for components, and 2) balanced drawbacks ON ALL RIGS, so they really become something you think about before fitting them, something to slightly shift the attributes of your ship instead of just being 2-3 more module slots
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RedLion
Caldari evenova
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Posted - 2007.02.18 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Serkis I have no problems with it, either you are overfitting or lack skills.
Let me just buy officer loot and a CNR...?
I haven't overfitted yet, but I would like to use the rigs i want, not the ccc without any drawbacks. The Gallenteans must be destroyed. |

Kunming
Outcasts
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Posted - 2007.02.18 03:51:00 -
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Oh dear, the caldari whinage again..
You have CPU reduction implant while turrets dont have a PG reduction implant..
I guess thats end of the discussion here.
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Putso Glifti
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Posted - 2007.02.18 04:26:00 -
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Rigs are waaaaay too overpowered imho.
I Love Them.
If/When they get nerfed, I will learn to love them again.
Like most fittings, if you can't get them to work efficiently, you're probably a little light in certain skills. |

Sadist
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.18 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Putso Glifti
Like most fittings, if you can't get them to work efficiently, you're probably a little light in certain skills.
Or in the cranial department.  тттттттттттт
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.18 09:57:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 18/02/2007 09:53:59 There are really good rigs and useless rigs.
Armor rigs... good for capital ships, but apart from resistance/hp amount ones, they don't work. Stacking them on battleships/CS will cripple ship bad. 1 you might actually live with.
Astronautic rigs: good for things smaller than bs or nanoboats. Why do you need armor if you don't get hit.
Drone rigs: anyone ever used them ?
EW rigs: no relevant drawback tbh, dampa boats are armor tanked, EW boats don't need more than 2 lows for distortion amps and after that, fitting EW rigs is pointless.
Weapon rigs: Another useless section. There are 2 exceptions, cruise missiles (and EW raven) and autocannons. Other rigs will do more harm than good. Especially rigs for lasers are funny.
Shield rigs: drawback much less noticeable and annoying than with armor rigs. -------- ..... |

Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.18 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC EW boats don't need more than 2 lows for distortion amps and after that, fitting EW rigs is pointless.
+ Strength rigs are not the only viable EW rigs - there is also an range rig. With 2 of them scorps and blackbirds can get a 230k optimal, taking it out of range for anything but rokhs.
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RedLion
Caldari evenova
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Posted - 2007.02.19 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 18/02/2007 09:53:59 There are really good rigs and useless rigs.
Armor rigs... good for capital ships, but apart from resistance/hp amount ones, they don't work. Stacking them on battleships/CS will cripple ship bad. 1 you might actually live with.
Astronautic rigs: good for things smaller than bs or nanoboats. Why do you need armor if you don't get hit.
Drone rigs: anyone ever used them ?
EW rigs: no relevant drawback tbh, dampa boats are armor tanked, EW boats don't need more than 2 lows for distortion amps and after that, fitting EW rigs is pointless.
Weapon rigs: Another useless section. There are 2 exceptions, cruise missiles (and EW raven) and autocannons. Other rigs will do more harm than good. Especially rigs for lasers are funny.
Shield rigs: drawback much less noticeable and annoying than with armor rigs.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.02.19 02:33:00 -
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I'm curious about Luke saying weapon rigs would be useful on a cruise raven. Usually a cruise raven I setup will use 2-3 BCUs, and cap recharge rigs would be much more useful than weapon rigs.
Maybe if weapon rigs were bumped up a few % they'd be more appealing, but right now if your ship can swap something for dmg mods, then do it.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.19 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia I'm curious about Luke saying weapon rigs would be useful on a cruise raven. Usually a cruise raven I setup will use 2-3 BCUs, and cap recharge rigs would be much more useful than weapon rigs.
Maybe if weapon rigs were bumped up a few % they'd be more appealing, but right now if your ship can swap something for dmg mods, then do it.
Explosion radius rigs are very nasty if used properly ... hitting hacs for full dmg is joy. Too bad they can't really be 1 volleyed now.
You don't need that much cap unless if you have active tank on raven.
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.19 08:58:00 -
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A caldari pilot complaining about cpu? Try flying amarr and you won't complain about your ravens cpu. I have max fitting skills. CPU implant and most of my ships have to have a co-processor to fit properly. _________________________________________
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.19 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel A caldari pilot complaining about cpu? Try flying amarr and you won't complain about your ravens cpu. I have max fitting skills. CPU implant and most of my ships have to have a co-processor to fit properly.
I was using blasterthron 1year ago, that was hard.
Amarr fits easy compared to that. But you have a point, caldari ships are bit easy to fit, especially in t1 department. Minmatar & ac is ... ... ... -------- ..... |

Darken Two
Gallente Hybonashi Industries Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.02.19 09:26:00 -
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So anyone actually used a drone rig? I would like to know if they are useful at all.
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RedLion
Caldari evenova
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Posted - 2007.02.19 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Zaethiel A caldari pilot complaining about cpu? Try flying amarr and you won't complain about your ravens cpu. I have max fitting skills. CPU implant and most of my ships have to have a co-processor to fit properly.
I was using blasterthron 1year ago, that was hard.
Amarr fits easy compared to that. But you have a point, caldari ships are bit easy to fit, especially in t1 department. Minmatar & ac is ... ... ...
And why would people fit t1? To save cpu maybe... but what you sacrifice hardly justifies to use of rigs. The Gallenteans must be destroyed. |

RedLion
Caldari evenova
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Posted - 2007.02.19 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Zaethiel A caldari pilot complaining about cpu? Try flying amarr and you won't complain about your ravens cpu. I have max fitting skills. CPU implant and most of my ships have to have a co-processor to fit properly.
I was using blasterthron 1year ago, that was hard.
Amarr fits easy compared to that. But you have a point, caldari ships are bit easy to fit, especially in t1 department. Minmatar & ac is ... ... ...
And why would people fit t1? To save cpu maybe... but what you sacrifice hardly justifies to use of rigs. The Gallenteans must be destroyed. |

Shugo Kazuma
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Posted - 2007.02.19 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: RedLion
Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Zaethiel A caldari pilot complaining about cpu? Try flying amarr and you won't complain about your ravens cpu. I have max fitting skills. CPU implant and most of my ships have to have a co-processor to fit properly.
I was using blasterthron 1year ago, that was hard.
Amarr fits easy compared to that. But you have a point, caldari ships are bit easy to fit, especially in t1 department. Minmatar & ac is ... ... ...
And why would people fit t1? To save cpu maybe... but what you sacrifice hardly justifies to use of rigs.
The reference is to T1 SHIPS, not modules.
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