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Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.02.17 16:57:00 - [1] Only one module needs to work in warp, warp scramblers. Won't help you if they already have too many stabs, but run into someone mid-warp and you can pull them out of warp anywhere and attack. ---------- IBTL \o/ Fix the ******* map! No such thing as griefing in Eve
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.02.17 17:04:00 - [2] Originally by: Imechal Ravpeim Doing stuff that affects other ships while in warp gets thing too complicated... You're moving several times faster than the speed of light. I don't think there are many modules capable of doing that. But relative to each other you're not moving at all. ---------- IBTL \o/ Fix the ******* map! No such thing as griefing in Eve
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.02.18 00:41:00 - [3] Originally by: Scoundrelus's Alt Warping doesn't make you go faster than the speed of light. Warping is basically like folding space so that two points are closer together than they natrually would be. See space is concave, and things like gravity and such that are generated by planets, moons actually bend space. Which is why black holes are interesting because what they are are actually tears in time-space. So in conclusion one would say that you aren't really 'warping' more then you are folding. For those confused I could draw a picture in MS Paint. Negative. Warp Drive in Eve is not true Warp Drive, so this is not how it works. It actually expands a depleted vacuum bubble around your ship, thus increasing the speed of light within the bubble. So you don't exceed the speed of light, you speed the speed of light up. No warping involved . ---------- IBTL \o/ Fix the ******* map! No such thing as griefing in Eve
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.02.18 03:50:00 - [4] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 18/02/2007 03:47:03 Originally by: Scoundrelus's Alt Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Scoundrelus's Alt Warping doesn't make you go faster than the speed of light. Warping is basically like folding space so that two points are closer together than they natrually would be. See space is concave, and things like gravity and such that are generated by planets, moons actually bend space. Which is why black holes are interesting because what they are are actually tears in time-space. So in conclusion one would say that you aren't really 'warping' more then you are folding. For those confused I could draw a picture in MS Paint. Negative. Warp Drive in Eve is not true Warp Drive, so this is not how it works. It actually expands a depleted vacuum bubble around your ship, thus increasing the speed of light within the bubble. So you don't exceed the speed of light, you speed the speed of light up. No warping involved . Yes I realize that's EVE's definition as seen HERE, however what I'm refering to is actual warp theory, something that can be applied to realistic physics. Hoping maybe I can educate someone on something they didn't know about prior to reading this thread. BUT YOU RUINED EVERYTHING! runs away crying The real definition doesn't matter if Eve doesn't use it. And since Eve's one is (AFAIK) completely made up, it gives us much more room to play with ideas. Of course, using any weapon while in warp is like throwing a paper airplane between two cars on a motorway no matter what definition you use. ---------- IBTL \o/ Fix the ******* map! No such thing as griefing in Eve
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.02.18 17:02:00 - [5] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 18/02/2007 16:58:19 Originally by: Scilent Enigma Originally by: CmdrThor Originally by: roqxi I know eve is a game and all that, but shooting lasers and such when going faster than light would be like peeing into the wind :P? When in warp, you are NOT going FTL. You are just warping space so that the distance between your start point and destination gets negligible, and then you travel in that warp "tunnel" at normal sublight speeds. http://www.eve-online.com/background/jump/jump_05.asp Quote: By creating depleted vacuum, that is, vacuum as found in space but completely stripped of all energy, and then expanding this depleted vacuum to envelop a ship, the ship is capable of moving faster than light through this bubble of depleted vacuum. A depleted vacuum bubble is more than frictionless û it is so anti-friction that things (including light) actually move faster in it than they would in complete vacuum. So if you get into the same bubble as the other ship it should actually be possible to fight there. Though to actually hit another ship even though they seem to have 0 transversal I imagine would be pretty dang hard considering the antifriction. There's one thing I'm quite interested in finding out in relation both to the backstory and the in-game implementation: Why is it that two ships that end up within visual range of each other in warp tend to group up? Every time I've been in warp with other ships they tend to group up into distinct blobs. Backstory-wise this could be what you say, the bubbles combining. ---------- IBTL \o/ Fix the ******* map! No such thing as griefing in Eve
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.02.18 17:41:00 - [6] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 18/02/2007 17:37:35 Originally by: Roy Batty68 Meh... Backstory be damned. It's a game and we can bend the heck out of the backstory for the purposes of fun gameplay. CCP could change it so the 'warp bubble' is actually created by whipping all the invisible space herpies into a frenzy so they carry your ship 'really fast'. Anyway, much of EVE's game time is wasted in warp. I've often thought that it is the one feature that needs a bit more to it. Why can't we nudge our warp tunnel, warp drives, space herpies, whatever towards a different destination while we're in warp. etc. So yeah. I'm with the OP. Hey CCP, why not? Originally by: Google Did you mean: herpes Refine results for herpies: Let's leave the space herpes out of it, eh? ---------- IBTL \o/ Fix the ******* map! No such thing as griefing in Eve
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:06:00 - [7] Originally by: SteroBolic ROFL.. well if you warped scram someone how would you be able to attack them sicne they fall out of warp.. you will still be warping urself except now this guy is in a SS somewere out of warp and ur still warping.. You will need someone to warp scram you also so u can be there to kill him I imagine the system could be made to deacticate your warp drive at the same time. Not that it says anywhere that warp scramblers can actually knock a ship out of warp, but it doesn't say they can't either... ---------- IBTL \o/ Fix the ******* map! No such thing as griefing in Eve

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