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Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
785
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:18:25 -
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Friends, Sh*tposters, Summitgoers, lend me your ears;
I come to bury a certain annoying pilot, not to shame her
The bad posts flow into every topic,
The good is often interred in the deluge
So let it be with the troll...
For years we have all watched this get further and further out of hand. Some have tried logic, some have tried sympathy, some have tried aggression, some have tried bargaining... but, alas, all have failed.
A few have suggested mass reporting. I think we know that the troll is too stubborn, and too savvy a rules lawyer, for that route to be effective.
What I suggest is something unreasonable. A Pact to engage in the only tactics as childish as our foe: passive aggression.
First, the silent treatment. We ignore the troll and never speak its name.
Second, whenever the troll posts we reply in unison:
Quote:This pilot is a known pirate, traitor and liar. Her words mean nothing, and yet she talks.
You should also throw in a link to this thread somewhere in there.
Third, we keep this topic bumped, and link it whenever someone who doesn't know the drill engages the troll.
At some point, all the gods willing, this pilot may decide to contribute constructively... but we all know how far fetched that is. But, if by some miracle it does happen, we can rescind the Pact at that time. |
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
369
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:27:40 -
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How do they say in Amarr?..
Ramen.
Edit: It's actually "Amen", forgive my ignorance.
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Follow us on GalNet!
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1046
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:46:04 -
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The Amarr must be purged!
On a serious note, I'll do my best to support this.. |
Karina Ivanovich
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
12
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:47:42 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:How do they say in Amarr?..
Ramen.
Edit: It's actually "Amen", forgive my ignorance.
Ramen to that I say.
Creep ye now on silent pastures.
Moving through the paths of life.
Question not the things that matter.
Just live this world of love and strife.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation
Mercenary Coalition
744
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:49:16 -
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Not feeding the disruptive ones with the attention they desire? What a novel and unprecedented idea that surely hasn't been brought up before. Repeatedly. Ad nauseum. It's certain to work this time. |
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1046
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:49:48 -
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Isn't that some Acurian noodle or something? |
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
372
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:52:02 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Isn't that some Acurian noodle or something?
It is, I had some for lunch so that's where the word came from.
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Follow us on GalNet!
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Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
787
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:53:15 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Not feeding the disruptive ones with the attention they desire? What a novel and unprecedented idea that surely hasn't been brought up before. Repeatedly. Ad nauseum. It's certain to work this time.
You're absolutely right. I think the problem is that people always have a variable attitude between being fed up with the nonsense, and entertained by trolling right back. Even if 99% of the forum is sick of the badposting, there's always someone who feels like taking the bait. |
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
464
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:53:17 -
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This is childish. Someones personal views, no matter how out spoken or out of touch with reality they may be doesn't mean they are this 'troll' concept few have been tossing around.
Instead of trying to thicken your skin under some petty agreement, you could simply ignore them if they offend you so much.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Utari Onzo
Pentag Blade
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1099
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:55:02 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Not feeding the disruptive ones with the attention they desire? What a novel and unprecedented idea that surely hasn't been brought up before. Repeatedly. Ad nauseum. It's certain to work this time.
This. If you don't want to hear someone's words, ignore them. Besides, this is an open and public venue. I think the current spat of Blood Raider loving pilots are some of the worst posters (and god awfully cringe worthy if it wasn't for the fact one of them atleast really is a mass murderer on another level) but I have no right or say in stopping their announcements here. Only the DED have that power.
If you just don't plain like someone, well tough luck.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
787
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:55:25 -
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I'm pretty sure I said up front that it was childish. So, you're right. I agree.
Ignoring the troll doesn't work. Active measures must be employed. |
Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
787
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:57:33 -
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Also, those of you who choose to ignore her: keep up the good work.
This is a post for everyone who is tempted to respond. If you must respond, respond in unison. Say only "This pilot is a known pirate, traitor and liar" and return to the actual topic without further interaction. |
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
464
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:59:51 -
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If you cannot handle the rantings of one individual the IGS is not the public forum for you. Being a child will just place you in the same light as those you wish to punish.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
Mighty Wings.
5884
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:10:40 -
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John Revenent wrote:This is childish. Someones personal views, no matter how out spoken or out of touch with reality they may be doesn't mean they are this 'troll' concept few have been tossing around.
But when their repeated actions both on and off the forums disrupt the IGS' already deeply-strained capacity for intelligent and fluid discourse, it veers directly into troll territory. With the individual in question, their lack of self-control was apparently so profound that it led to a permanent expulsion from the "The Summit" neocom channel due to the sheer volume of complaints its moderators received from third parties, and the sheer volume of abuse its moderators received from her.
Robbed of that particular avenue to abuse and belittle her imagined enemies, she has turned her disruptive behaviour towards the IGS instead.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Arista Shahni
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
230
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:12:53 -
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I ad always noticed a certain trend.
When a certainn person was NOT AROUND, topic would always drift to them.
For months.
Without their help.
You may be speaking to the wrong crowd.
"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also. -áAnd as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all."
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Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
788
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:13:03 -
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Who said anything about punishment?
Its not about "handling the rantings" its about constant derailment of every topic with the same personal attacks. Hell, they aren't even attacks against me. Every time we repeat the same pattern, and people are tired of it.
Like I said, if we see a change, we can all start acting like adults. Wouldn't that be nice? |
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
465
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:14:35 -
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Well don't expect to garner any respect from others outside this little agreement.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1046
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:15:40 -
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I know my temper will get the better of me but atleast trying to quell the individual in question still should be attempted. Nobody cares about a certain race's POWs in a discussion about a pool party for example. Nor does it have a place being brought up. I'm guilty of it myself at times but I don't think I harp on it as badly as the other. Please tell me if I do. |
Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
788
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:15:56 -
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By the way, if someone has ideas for a better standard reply by all means share. My OP may be too provocative, and I'm willing to consider and promote an alternative phrasing. |
Commander Shepard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:17:25 -
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I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite post in The Citadel. |
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Arista Shahni
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
233
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:17:56 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:By the way, if someone has ideas for a better standard reply by all means share. My OP may be too provocative, and I'm willing to consider and promote an alternative phrasing.
Every capsuleer has a choice.
Interact or not.
Answer or not.
Discuss or not.
If someone(s) spent months trying to change YOU from who you were to who they wanted you to be, you .. well.
The Empire has gotten quite bit of flack for this sort of thing.
"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also. -áAnd as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all."
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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
468
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:23:41 -
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Arista Shahni wrote:
Interact or not.
Answer or not.
Discuss or not.
That is obviously to hard.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
788
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:26:02 -
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Nobody has to force me to change. I make it a point to grow and adapt as the world changes around me.
Y'know, since I'm a creature of pure consciousness unbound by mortal flesh and everything... |
Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
788
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:27:36 -
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John Revenent wrote:Arista Shahni wrote:
Interact or not.
Answer or not.
Discuss or not.
That is obviously to hard.
Exactly. Hence this thread. |
Arista Shahni
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
233
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:42:24 -
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As impossible as it may seem. I am friendly with many Capsuleers others find unbearable. Having a psychological view of it makes many things much clearer.
However, I am oathbound to speak nothing else.
"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also. -áAnd as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all."
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Karina Ivanovich
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
12
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:51:12 -
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Words are spoken by many.
Yet voices often make no sound.
The ears of the witness can be closed.
But you cannot shut the mouth of the stubborn.
Is is best to stifle others thoughts?
Is it worth the effort to dismember the outcast?
Do we make a pariah of ourselves?
I know not.
I shall wait and see.
Creep ye now on silent pastures.
Moving through the paths of life.
Question not the things that matter.
Just live this world of love and strife.
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
217
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Posted - 2016.04.21 19:19:12 -
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I'm just a sock puppet, so what do I know, right?
Might as well block every criminal, pirate and scum! |
Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
788
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Posted - 2016.04.21 19:44:45 -
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Or, y'know... chill out? |
Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
217
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Posted - 2016.04.21 19:45:58 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Or, y'know... chill out?
Nonsense! We must go to the extreme! All or nothing!
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1678
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Posted - 2016.04.21 22:05:08 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Isn't that some Acurian noodle or something? It is, I had some for lunch so that's where the word came from.
Would you say it was a... Freudian slurp?
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium
Owner, The Golden Masque
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