the real question is... does that timer "reset" at the time the ship gets pointed...

if timer is not reset.. then attacker must keep the target pointed the entire time until it is destroyed.. will require attackers to slightly alter tactics

if timer is reset.. then this change is realy nothing more then cosmetic and will have minimal to no effect in the game

So you get 2 mins 45 secs of bumping, scram and repeat?

Did I miss something?

15 seconds apparently.

Right now being pointed cancels warp. I would expect that mechanic to remain unchanged, otherwise it would be impossible to tackle a non-war target in highsec due to CONCORD. This would be an incredible nerf to criminal ganking and would force gankers to completely change tactics and make it much more expensive. I would not put that past CCP at this point, but I would expect their recent focus on easy changes means they will do as little as possible and thus won't touch the core of the warp scamble/disrupt mechanics.

Even still, it will have a large impact on ransom bumpers making it impossible to hold a freighter for any length of time solo. But if a real ganking fleet is operating, you will not be safe, although the effort required to point you means you are not likely to be bump-tackled for nearly as long before they get around to exploding you.

In either case, no matter how you look at it, it is yet another nerf to ganking. I wonder if this is the "one more nerf" that will finally make things balanced?

I had a feeling this sort of thing was coming. Remember, when Fozzie announced that Freighters would be getting 33% hull resists, he said, "This won't kill ganking, and neither will the other changes we have coming down the pipe". The quoting is not exactly verbatim, but it is the gist (A-type) of what he said. Focusing on the bump mechanics is the first logical step.

any ship class became effectively invulnerable (which arguably freighters already boarderline are)

I think quite the opposite. If you get targeted in high sec while running a route you will die. That is more of an issue in my eyes

I expect though that if there is such an unhealthy reduction in ganking,

I think quite the opposite. If you get targeted in high sec while running a route you will die. That is more of an issue in my eyes

I suspect that CCP count a lot on the increase in deaths thanks to implementing the citadels.
And want to allow constructions of the citadels first.
So they want and need a period of almost peace for the freighters while the large and XL citadels are built and deployed, after enough have been deployed the pendulum will swing in the other direction.

My point is still not being understood.

Nothing should be 100% safe or not safe.

At the moment a targeted freighter is dead 100% of the time.

This three minute rule fixes nothing.

If CCP ever get to a situation where they control the narrative of the game that closely, then I can't see any positive in that.

Since 2011, Hilmar has been very clear that CCP are the custodians of the game, but the players make Eve what it is.

Along those lines, if Citadels are going to be built, then it should be up to the will of players to see that happen, not for CCP to quiet down the environment in highsec temporarily and then change it down the road.

I certainly hope that's not what this is about.

My point is still not being understood.

Nothing should be 100% safe or not safe.

At the moment a targeted freighter is dead 100% of the time.

This three minute rule fixes nothing.

Right now being pointed cancels warp. I would expect that mechanic to remain unchanged, otherwise it would be impossible to tackle a non-war target in highsec due to CONCORD. This would be an incredible nerf to criminal ganking and would force gankers to completely change tactics and make it much more expensive. I would not put that past CCP at this point, but I would expect their recent focus on easy changes means they will do as little as possible and thus won't touch the core of the warp scamble/disrupt mechanics.

Even still, it will have a large impact on ransom bumpers making it impossible to hold a freighter for any length of time solo. But if a real ganking fleet is operating, you will not be safe, although the effort required to point you means you are not likely to be bump-tackled for nearly as long before they get around to exploding you.

In either case, no matter how you look at it, it is yet another nerf to ganking. I wonder if this is the "one more nerf" that will finally make things balanced?

Regardless of what the people who are enjoying taking advantage of a situation might say (especially should this situation be altered against their WILLS) how the creators want the creation to look will prevail. The ones who like to take advantage of situations will just have to find something else to take advantage of . QQ waaah waaah QQ. I'm sure the entitled among us (who insist people design things to their own preferences and definitions of reality, rather than get in there and build their OWN creations [hardy har har to that]) will squeal like the stuck pigs they must be (for all the squealing they do) if some low hanging fruit they're thriving upon is shifted to where they'd have to actually make an effort to get it. And, this is how it's always been. This is how it will always be. Those of us who don't mind some work, and effort with a certain amount of determination involved have always known these people are there, and seemingly will never go away. So be it. QQ some more for us baby QQ.

The bump the freighter interminably while we take our first-grader ships and whittle it down for an hour and a half "dynamic" sort of makes a lot of the ship design, and attributes a laughing stock. That it can be done at all demonstrates a loophole in design any true engineer would lose sleep over until it was plugged. It also points up what could be a deeper set of flaws in a process. Once again appears the Gordian Knot. No designer worth spit would allow the unwashed masses, the roaring minions, who have no appreciation of sound and cogent design, but are just lapping up crumbs from a gaping hole in what should be a fabulous design, influence any decision he or she makes - (emphasize: worth spit.)

Knowing the obnoxiously loud minority of players in the gaming world who just love that low hanging fruit and will squall like a Vogon poet to keep it (insisting it's how reality itself desires it) like I do, I can see how freighter bumping will bring out the earplugs for those of us who just have to live with these people...as long as there's this civilization thing working here.

It's heartening to see something, however convoluted, being done about this. For, as we all know to actually hyperwarp a space ship it doesn't need to be moving at all. All it needs is coordinates and the hyperdrive. The fictional fysixs does the rest.

+1 for intelligence
-1 for the ganker mentality

Highsec has many problems which limit player interaction and prevent sandbox gameplay from fully developing. It is absurd that an AFK player in a freighter is so immune to the other players in the sandbox with no effort or action on their part. Highsec is long overdue for a complete rethink of the mechanics, and whenever CCP gets around to that, this content-killing situation will be addressed, exactly like it was for Aegis sov, with the goal of groups of all sizes being able to play as criminals.

My point is still not being understood.

Nothing should be 100% safe or not safe.

At the moment a targeted freighter is dead 100% of the time.

This three minute rule fixes nothing.

I mean, you could also use that logic to state that if you jump into a lowsec gatecamp in a t1 hauler you have a near 100% chance of dieing also, so they should get a module that lets them escape the gatecamp. However, in reality, it is the hauler's fault for ignoring safety and not getting a scout or just not going through low.

The key part of your post is the "targeted freighter". Exactly. A targeted freighter. You wouldn't complain about not being able to ignore a scram, because it's your own fault getting into such a situation. A freighter stays safe by keeping the cargo value low enough so that gankers won't bother, or by traveling through high-highsec systems. A group of 30 people should be able to kill a single freighter if he becomes a target through his own fault of hauling too high-value goods. Why should one person be able to stop thirty?