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Jack Hayson
La Luna Negro inPanic
365
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Posted - 2016.04.25 11:41:43 -
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Sudri Namian wrote:Still if there is more than 1 station in the wormhole at the moment of destruction stuff should be transfered there. It does not. "subject to the magical loot fairy rules that would normally apply for ship cargohold." meaning half the assets drop as loot and the rest is destroyed.
It would be impossible to evict someone if the assets were just transferred to another citadel in system. |

Malcolm from Marketing
Klaatu Technologies
108
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Posted - 2016.04.25 12:47:44 -
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So, you want a Citidel in your C4 Wormhole but you want everybody else to pay for it for you? Seems Legit.
Also, Any Assets in a WH citidel are subject to the regular loot fairy just as they are in a Pos right now. Asset safety only applies to known space - as in everywhere but wormholes. |

Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2763
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Posted - 2016.04.25 13:56:14 -
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if you cant afford to buy one without begging i doubt you can defend one 
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Spacefaring Bastard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2016.04.25 17:35:50 -
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huh, what happened to those logs from yesterday? those were a good read. very revealing about the character of Sundri.
Even more so that he had them removed. |

Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.25 17:38:02 -
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Spacefaring Bastard wrote:huh, what happened to those logs from yesterday? those were a good read. very revealing about the character of Sundri.
Even more so that he had them removed.
I did not remoove anything as i don't have the power to do so read up the whole thread and you will find out why ! |

Spacefaring Bastard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2016.04.25 17:48:12 -
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Had them removed. you whined that someone was going to tell everyone about how shifty you were in that convo. |

Hans Bauer
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.04.25 18:02:34 -
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A Large citadel is a tough nut to crack for everyone that keeps having security concerns go on the test server place a large citadel and try to destroy it. Expecially when it its inside a wormhole. Certain individuals keep trolling this thread but then again they are all over the forum. I't wouldnt hurt you being on the topic keep or wonder why the thread gets moderated. |

Shayla Etherodyne
United Nations Industrial Holdings
22
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Posted - 2016.04.25 18:15:29 -
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Spacefaring Bastard wrote:Had them removed. you whined that someone was going to tell everyone about how shifty you were in that convo.
You know, whining about moderation don't seem very smart after you have been warned:
ISD Gallifreyan wrote:... Quote: The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread.
Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.
Even though there were multiple violations I will leave this as a Warning Further violations will be escalated to CCP appropriately. ... [quote] 12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited. The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category. |

Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
99
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Posted - 2016.04.25 18:43:35 -
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Hans Bauer wrote:A Large citadel is a tough nut to crack for everyone that keeps having security concerns go on the test server place a large citadel and try to destroy it. Expecially when it its inside a wormhole. Certain individuals keep trolling this thread but then again they are all over the forum. I't wouldnt hurt you being on the topic keep or wonder why the thread gets moderated. How many Billions are you giving? Put your ISK where your mouth is. |

Spacefaring Bastard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2016.04.25 18:44:32 -
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I haven't been warned, actually. Seeing as I didn't post any logs, I just read them for the short time before Sundri realized they made him look either incompetent in the extreme, or a scammer with poor english grammar skills who did slightly less than enough research.
I tend to have a very good memory for when people are shifty. I may forget to do basic things like eating, or to reset a spring when I put machinery back together, but I always remember people I can't trust.
And since I'm not directly posting the logs, this is well within what's allowed. |
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.25 18:51:07 -
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Ka Plaa wrote:Hans Bauer wrote:A Large citadel is a tough nut to crack for everyone that keeps having security concerns go on the test server place a large citadel and try to destroy it. Expecially when it its inside a wormhole. Certain individuals keep trolling this thread but then again they are all over the forum. I't wouldnt hurt you being on the topic keep or wonder why the thread gets moderated. How many Billions are you giving? Put your ISK where your mouth is.
He actually did he was the first person to donate. Please guys if you don't have constructive criticism stop just posting for the sake of posting so far i've been called all sorts of things. This thread is starting to be less and less civilised. Asking questions and debating is 1 thing calling someone scammer , beggar and all sort of names is another. Why ? cus it has nothing to do with the topic if you don't like the idea of a fundraiser do not support it but let each person form his own opinion . Do not turn into this into a flame war just because you have nothing better to do. |

Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
99
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Posted - 2016.04.25 20:54:25 -
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Sudri Namian wrote: just because you have nothing better to do. Do you realise the irony of saying that to others but saying others should be nice in your thread? At least star wearing a wizard hat or something.
A fundraiser or crowdfunding a project isn't a bad idea in and of itself. Community projects have potential in EvE. However, it doesn't seem as though you maybe have considered some major issues and details about the project and how the citadel will operate after construction. So people are suspicious, sorry.
That being said, good luck with your project.
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.25 20:59:16 -
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Ka Plaa wrote:Sudri Namian wrote: just because you have nothing better to do. Do you realise the irony of saying that to others but saying others should be nice in your thread? At least star wearing a wizard hat or something. A fundraiser or crowdfunding a project isn't a bad idea in and of itself. Community projects have potential in EvE. However, it doesn't seem as though you maybe have considered some major issues and details about the project and how the citadel will operate after construction. So people are suspicious, sorry. That being said, good luck with your project.
Thank you |

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
255
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:09:39 -
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Spacefaring Bastard wrote:I haven't been warned, actually. Seeing as I didn't post any logs, I just read them for the short time before Sundri realized they made him look either incompetent in the extreme, or a scammer with poor english grammar skills who did slightly less than enough research.
I tend to have a very good memory for when people are shifty. I may forget to do basic things like eating, or to reset a spring when I put machinery back together, but I always remember people I can't trust.
And since I'm not directly posting the logs, this is well within what's allowed. You can still see the logs on eve-search:
http://eve-search.com/thread/478495-1
This OP has no clue. I don't operate in J-Space, but I'll add 3 Billion for the group that kills this Citadel.
ISK will be sent to a third party to hold in advance. Updated details will be posted once that is done. |

Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:28:12 -
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More alts of the same guys great :) |

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
256
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:29:17 -
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Sudri Namian wrote:More alts of the same guys great :) Nope.
Just someone who thinks begging for ISK to build a Citadel is asking for trouble; and I'm happy to deliver where I can. |

Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:31:04 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Sudri Namian wrote:More alts of the same guys great :) Nope. Just someone who thinks begging to build a Citadel is asking for trouble; and I'm happy to deliver where I can.
However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking. |

Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2766
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:44:32 -
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Sudri Namian wrote:He actually did he was the first person to donate. Please guys if you don't have constructive criticism stop just posting for the sake of posting so far i've been called all sorts of things.
constructive: stop begging and dont build what you cant afford to lose
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
257
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:52:42 -
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Sudri Namian wrote:However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking. I did read it. That's why I said you have no clue.
As to posting links containing chat logs, I posted a link to eve-search to this forum thread. That is not against the rules and has been done many, many times without issue in these forums (rule 35 is about posting chat logs outside C&P, not about posting links to forum threads) .
Putting bounties to kill something is very much allowed. There are even game mechanics around doing exactly that (they aren't great, but they are there). |

Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
99
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Posted - 2016.04.26 01:58:33 -
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Citadels = massive content creators for eve
May many be built in many circumstances
carpe diem |
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.26 08:26:23 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Sudri Namian wrote:However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking. I did read it. That's why I said you have no clue. You lack understanding of the loot drop mechanics of Citadels inside J-Space, you don't currently own the wormhole you plan on erecting a Citadel in, you lack understanding of what rights building a Citadel gives you (eg. it does not prevent POSs from being erected in the same hole. The only thing that will stop that is the end of the year when CCP stop POSs from being built anywhere, but then someone could just put up a rival Citadel/Manufacturing array/Mining Array/etc. in the same hole). You also seem to have little clue about the ways in which these can be attacked and don't even know who HK is. Overall, your plan is little more than a pipe dream laid out in a forum thread, with no substance to support it; and people who might see this thread and consider investing should have access to that information as it may affect their decision to donate to your begging drive. As to posting links containing chat logs, I posted a link to eve-search to this forum thread. That is not against the rules and has been done many, many times without issue in these forums (rule 35 is about posting chat logs outside C&P, not about posting links to forum threads) . Putting bounties to kill something is very much allowed. There are even game mechanics around doing exactly that (they aren't great, but they are there).
1.Stop hiding behind alts show us who your main character is 2.The confusion about loot drop mechanics you are saying i have no clue about was something to be sorted out by ccp as the patch notes came out it's clearly visible that loot inside wormholes when citadel is drops. 3. The fact is your sole purpose in this is thread is to discredit the whole project by making posts fom multiple characters on the same accounts you are using and you are trying to grasp for straws. 4 It's my project and i will continue to raise funds and fufill my dream nomather how much hate the idea or the person behind. It's also a fact that even tho there is another project with similar goals and outlined and planed exactly the same way you only sperg your hate here which leads me to belive you are actually either involved in it or invested in it and trying to protect your investment. |

CowQueen MMXII
42
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Posted - 2016.04.26 09:06:00 -
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Sudri Namian wrote: 1.Stop hiding behind alts show us who your main character is
Shouldn't you stop hiding first before demanding this from other people?
And as I expect that your main is a long time and respectable member of the wormhole community, with lots of experience in WH PVP, WH mechanics and organization of WH groups and operations, this would also generate much more confidence in your project.
Sudri Namian wrote: 3. The fact is your sole purpose in this is thread is to discredit the whole project by making posts fom multiple characters on the same accounts you are using and you are trying to grasp for straws.
The straws are more like ropes or chains. You radiate an aura of cluelessness and naivety... No idea how mechanics work, no idea how to fund this thing (except begging), no idea how to defend that thing, no background information about you to back up that you could pull something like this off - you even failed to post this in on of the appropriate forum sections.
Sudri Namian wrote: 4 It's my project and i will continue to raise funds and fufill my dream nomather how much hate the idea or the person behind it.
Raising funds for something you seem incapable of doing = scam. But good luck with that.
Moo! Uddersucker, moo!
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BIGDOG4
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2016.04.26 09:50:11 -
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Look Sudri you are doing this wrong.
What you need to do is stop feeding those trolls. Nomather what you do or say those guys will allways beat up arround the bush and call everything bs. They don't care about the community they are vultures. They are trying to provoke you saying something they can report or try to win sumpathy from others. Even if you always have the right arguments it's fighting a loosing battle becuase they will always calim that your arguments are not valid. |

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
264
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Posted - 2016.04.26 10:20:15 -
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BIGDOG4 wrote:Look Sudri you are doing this wrong.
What you need to do is stop feeding those trolls. Nomather what you do or say those guys will allways beat up arround the bush and call everything bs. They don't care about the community they are vultures. They are trying to provoke you saying something they can report or try to win sumpathy from others. Even if you always have the right arguments it's fighting a loosing battle becuase they will always calim that your arguments are not valid. Troll is such an overused word in this forum. Why does having a strong opinion equate to being a troll?
Additionally, troll is a term most often used in reference to people that reply, yet it is just as likely that the OP is the troll. After all, this is not posted in the right forum, is essentially begging the community for ISK and if you go to the eve-search history you'll see the real qualities of the OP telling another player to go kill themself.
However, I would prefer to think the OP is just naive and doesn't really have the capability to do this. Ultimately though, if you watch the Citadel trailer, more than half of it covers attacking a Citadel. These things are meant to bring content to the game. Conflict around them is not a troll. It's the whole reason Capitals are being rebalanced and all new modules and ships introduced. Conflict around Citadrls is a good thing, especially in wormholes.
If the OP wants safety, he should stick to highsec for his dream. |

Lugh Crow-Slave
2296
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Posted - 2016.04.26 10:34:29 -
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Sounds like a cash grab to me if you plan to do this come up with the starting capital without handouts and I'll assume its validity
Citadel worm hole tax
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lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
1116
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Posted - 2016.04.26 10:59:11 -
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I know I'm wasting my time here, but I'm currently supposed to be doing some work and unfortunately, this is the best entertainment I can get. Well, except that I just read a thread where someone posted a link to the site 27bslash6 which was hilarious...back to being on topic though
I am still trying to figure out why I am supposed to kill myself (according to the OP) Because I am not a supporter of your idea, I am supposed to die? Why would one fund someone with absolutely no knowledge of the game at all who also happens to be a terrible person? Even if it's not for replying to me, you haven't addressed any of the legitimate questions asked in this thread with a worthy reply.
Sudri Namian wrote: However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking.
It is allowed, I'm not sabotaging your project. Your project goal is to get a citadel created, my goal is to have it destroyed. Your goal succeeding is a precondition for the successof my goal. Having said that, I'm not sabotaging your project, I'm using it as a way to create content.
Spaceprincess
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BIGDOG4
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2016.04.26 12:52:47 -
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Again and again and again speculations and acusations. Proove it ? You keep saying its a scam you keep saying player has no knowlege of how the game works based on what ? Because as far as im concerned his/her word is as good as yours and everyone has a right to have his gaming goals achived.In my eyes i only see someone trying to achive something and you guys gank on him trying to troll him into giving up ! |

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
264
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Posted - 2016.04.26 13:02:23 -
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BIGDOG4 wrote:Again and again and again speculations and acusations. Proove it ? You keep saying its a scam you keep saying player has no knowlege of how the game works based on what ? Because as far as im concerned his/her word is as good as yours and everyone has a right to have his gaming goals achived.In my eyes i only see someone trying to achive something and you guys gank on him trying to troll him into giving up ! No, not at all.
Go to eve search and look at the thread history.
The evidence is quite clear. It's not speculation. |

BIGDOG4
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2016.04.26 13:03:23 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:BIGDOG4 wrote:Again and again and again speculations and acusations. Proove it ? You keep saying its a scam you keep saying player has no knowlege of how the game works based on what ? Because as far as im concerned his/her word is as good as yours and everyone has a right to have his gaming goals achived.In my eyes i only see someone trying to achive something and you guys gank on him trying to troll him into giving up ! No, not at all. Go to eve search and look at the thread history. The evidence is quite clear. It's not speculation. . Everyone is entitled to his own opinion you gave yours i gave mine |

Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
110
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Posted - 2016.04.26 15:01:25 -
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BIGDOG4 wrote:...trying to troll him into giving up ! ...Goonswarm Federation... LOL, well done, sir, well done!
Citadels will generate much content, I hope many are built regardless of what may happen. Are not players responsible for their own isk investment consequences? Let the games begin!
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