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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
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Posted - 2016.04.24 09:50:47 -
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Hello
Announcing Project Freeport Citadel
The goal of the project is to create large Citadel inside a C4 wormhole with static connection allowing ppl to rat explore and and mine.
Why ?
You might say this is not the only project and yet the ammount of players that spend their time in Wormholes is considerable and with the introduction of citadels a lot of players will cosndier doing it as a station is much more secure than a pos and if the worst thing happens your hard earnings are safe.
The mission
Our goal is to create as safe enviroment as possible so players can call it their home . With the help of a standing system and the right of Project Freeport Citadel to reset them and deny docking privileges. We aim to raise the funds to funding . That will allow us buy all the parts assemble them and moove them to location. The aim is to raise a certain ammount of isk which would be done in another thread in the approriate forum as per EVE forums rules.
Security
Since we just started this project it's a litte bit early to comment on that however as the project comes close to release a set of rules will be hammered that will try to regulate and enforce.
This will happen thru standings, bounty system where players would be rewarded for killing undesirables and a certain ammount of bubles to force ppl warping to the station first and protecting the players doing pi gas harvesting and mining and i do hope thru the will of the ppl that call freeport citadel their home. You are not allowed to shoot greys tho you can shoot yellow and for the reds you will get paid.
Profits and Costs
Income will be generated thru taxes and services + there will be a loot buyback program . We aim to purchase all wormhole loot at a value lower than the market price. This is intended as a service and it will allow us to ship the loot to the actuall market. The money will be used to pay bounties buy stuff that we cannot produce localy and provide intrest to our investing residents.
Investment
At this point it's too early to say we will update this part as our project progresses and it's close to launch.
Research Components
That will increase our chance of securing a citadel bp or worst case scenario we will have to buy it. Feel free to contact me ingame if you are willing to donate those. However at this point thats not yet necesary as the project just started.
Funding
We just started this project but if you are willing to fund it the details are here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=478393&find=unread
If you have any aditional questions you can contact me ingame or join our channel #HOSPIS-Public since i do have a lot of time on my hands im usually online about 10 hours a day . If not you can also send me your concerns and sugestions by email.Edit Quote |

Cypherous
Cypherous Corporation
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Posted - 2016.04.24 10:01:34 -
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Quote:and a certain ammount of bubles to force ppl warping to the station first
Interdiction nullification |

Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
9
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Posted - 2016.04.24 10:08:29 -
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Cypherous wrote:Quote:and a certain ammount of bubles to force ppl warping to the station first Interdiction nullification
Thats true but its a work in progress and you can't really counter something at 100 precent in EVE online. Mesures will be taken to the best of our ability and as much as the game allows ;)
Thank you for your Intrest in Project Freeport |

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11786
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Posted - 2016.04.24 10:21:59 -
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Quote:and a certain ammount of bubles
I suppose even one lone Michael Buble drifting in space will drive off all enemy capsuleers...and probably all friendly ones, too.
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
9
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Posted - 2016.04.24 10:29:12 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Quote:and a certain ammount of bubles I suppose even one lone Michael Buble drifting in space will drive off all enemy capsuleers...and probably all friendly ones, too.
Thank you for your intrest in Freeport Citadel
Offcourse as the project progesses ppl will voice their concerns and i don't mind if the local residents don't want bubles there wont be any everything is subject to change ! |

lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
1105
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Posted - 2016.04.24 11:09:11 -
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Just like in your previous thread:
If this citadel is built, I am offering 5b ISK to the person that gets the killmail. Depending on the tears or other things that make me laugh, I'll toss in more.
Spaceprincess
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Bomb isthebomb
Alcoholocaust. Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2016.04.24 15:17:05 -
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I don't have any faith in this project at all... but...
You say it'd be in "a C4 wormhole with a static connection allowing people to rat explore and mine." What would the static be? C2 C5 C69?
For security, you said "This will happen thru standings and bounty system where players would be rewared for killing undesirables." how will the standing system work? Will it be like provi bloc? Will you have an alliance to protect it if it gets reinforced? Will you just hope for random people who use it to show up? (because they won't lol)
"We aim to purchase all wormhole loot at a value lower than the market price." What does this mean? How much lower? Are you going to give me 50 mil for 100 mil in blue loot? I'll cry. Don't make me cry.
By the way, what is the whole investment thing about? I get that you're early into the project and w/e but will it be like you renting out rooms for other people to rent out? (lol)
You should really make sure all the details are sorted out before you try something of this magnitude (big word), because even if you get the funding at this point, I don't think you'd know what you were doing at all <3. You also (probably) shouldn't tell people to kill themselves, might paint you in a bad light, idk.
http://i.imgur.com/dKJiY2n.jpg |

Annemariela Antonela
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
632
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Posted - 2016.04.24 15:33:21 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Quote:and a certain ammount of bubles I suppose even one lone Michael Buble drifting in space will drive off all enemy capsuleers...and probably all friendly ones, too.
Thanks for your interest.
GÇ£Culture is like a smog. To live within it, you must breathe some of it in and, inevitably, be contaminated.GÇ¥
GÇò Richard K. Morgan, Altered Carbon
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
9
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Posted - 2016.04.24 15:48:00 -
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You say it'd be in "a C4 wormhole with a static connection allowing people to rat explore and mine." What would the static be? C2 C5 C69?
1 For security, you said "This will happen thru standings and bounty system where players would be rewared for killing undesirables." how will the standing system work? Will it be like provi bloc? Will you have an alliance to protect it if it gets reinforced? Will you just hope for random people who use it to show up? (because they won't lol)
2 "We aim to purchase all wormhole loot at a value lower than the market price." What does this mean? How much lower? Are you going to give me 50 mil for 100 mil in blue loot? I'll cry. Don't make me cry.
3 By the way, what is the whole investment thing about? I get that you're early into the project and w/e but will it be like you renting out rooms for other people to rent out? (lol)
1. This wormhole is a freeport and not part of any alliance and what ppl might do or not you are just guessing.C5 static and either a C3 or C2 static 2. Buyback is usually 5-10% lower than the market value 3 It's too early for ivnestments and at this point i won't go into further details 4. That image is really offensive to me as im of Korean descend i would ask you to remoove it from your post |

Bomb isthebomb
Alcoholocaust. Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2016.04.24 16:01:01 -
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Sudri Namian wrote: 1. This wormhole is a freeport and not part of any alliance and what ppl might do or not you are just guessing.C5 static and either a C3 or C2 static 2. Buyback is usually 5-10% lower than the market value 3 It's too early for ivnestments and at this point i won't go into further details 4. That image is really offensive to me as im of Korean descend i would ask you to remoove it from your post
1. I'm not sure what "and what ppl might do or not you are just guessing." means, could you please elaborate? Are you referring to how you will defend the citadel? 2. :D 3. Yeah I understand that but you must have a basic idea of how you would want them to work right? Otherwise why did you mention it in your post? 4. But... he's just a jolly korean man :(
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
9
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Posted - 2016.04.24 16:13:58 -
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Feel free to join us ingame we will gladly discuss it in lenght our channel is Hospis-Public i have 10 hours a day to aruge arround ;) |

Siigari Kitawa
Waking Dreams
411
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Posted - 2016.04.24 16:16:48 -
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Everyone wants to leave their mark in Eve as a market mogul.
Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it.
Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else.
Ingame channel: PUSHX
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
9
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Posted - 2016.04.24 16:23:20 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Everyone wants to leave their mark in Eve as a market mogul.
Have to agree with you. I wanted to do that since i started playing this game and Citadels opened the doors for me :) |

Bomb isthebomb
Alcoholocaust. Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2016.04.24 16:39:21 -
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Sudri Namian wrote:Feel free to join us ingame we will gladly discuss it in lenght our channel is Hospis-Public i have 10 hours a day to aruge arround ;)
Not trying to argue fam :( |

Niraia
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
415
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Posted - 2016.04.24 16:43:00 -
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Hey Sudri Namian!
You shouldn't tell EVE players to kill themselves.
GÖÑ
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Max Fubarticus
The Scope Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2016.04.24 17:36:37 -
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It will happen!
Why? Because everyone who posted said it...
Can't Happen Shouldn't Happen It's Impossible Blah Blah Trolling Chimps with to much time on their hands.
That's why
Good Luck Sudri Namian 
Max
Civil discourse is uniquely human. After all, when is the last time a pride of lions and a herd of water buffalo negotiated SOV over a watering hole? Never.
Someone either gets their ass kicked or eaten. At the end of the day someone holds SOV.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11792
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Posted - 2016.04.24 17:58:25 -
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Good point
/Community lobs a PR Torpedo at the Freeport Citadel idea
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Bomb isthebomb
Alcoholocaust. Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2016.04.24 18:05:37 -
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I've talked to the OP in game for a while, the conversation is still going on but here is our conversation thus far:
http://pastebin.com/f0YUJpmW
I'll let people draw their own conclusions, o/ |

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11792
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Posted - 2016.04.24 18:23:56 -
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Bomb isthebomb wrote:I've talked to the OP in game for a while, the conversation is still going on but here is our conversation thus far: http://pastebin.com/f0YUJpmW
I'll let people draw their own conclusions, o/
Jesus Christ on a Bicycle, that's pretty entertaining for a Sunday afternoon
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
9
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Posted - 2016.04.24 18:31:41 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Bomb isthebomb wrote:I've talked to the OP in game for a while, the conversation is still going on but here is our conversation thus far: http://pastebin.com/f0YUJpmW I'll let people draw their own conclusions, o/ Jesus Christ on a Bicycle, that's pretty entertaining for a Sunday afternoon For what its worth he cut off a part of it he didn't like . And as far as im concerned he might also be involved in the other project even tho he claimed total ignorance. He acused me of being a scammer while the other project is legit without any form of proof and while saying that the other project is legit. As you noticed i've spend a considerbale ammount of time answering all his questions to the point where he started calling me bs scammer and wanted me to confess that i'm . It's funny tho how all of a sudden i gained all the negative impact yet the other project got funded without anyone calling him a liar or a scammer. |
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Bomb isthebomb
Alcoholocaust. Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2016.04.24 18:34:40 -
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Sudri Namian wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Bomb isthebomb wrote:I've talked to the OP in game for a while, the conversation is still going on but here is our conversation thus far: http://pastebin.com/f0YUJpmW I'll let people draw their own conclusions, o/ Jesus Christ on a Bicycle, that's pretty entertaining for a Sunday afternoon For what its worth he cut off a part of it he didn't like . And as far as im concerned he might also be involved in the other project even tho he claimed total ignorance. He acused me of being a scammer while the other project is legit without any form of proof and while saying that the other project is legit. As you noticed i've spend a considerbale ammount of time answering all his questions to the point where he started calling me bs scammer and wanted me to confess that i'm . It's funny tho how all of a sudden i gained all the negative impact yet the other project got funded without anyone calling him a liar or a scammer.
I left the entire conversation in there, and I would encourage you to send a screenshot of the logs to prove that I am lying.
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lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
1107
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Posted - 2016.04.24 19:54:54 -
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Quote:n++[ 2016.04.24 17:21:15 ] Sudri Namian > Sudri Namian is my main and i do have another character that is my alt and flys my freighter
Someone wants to gank that freighter? 
Quote:Sudri Namian > its obvious that the guy who offered 15 bil isk bounty on me is pissed for some reason Sudri Namian > and ccp erased his post
Perhaps because you asked me to go kill myself. Also, CCP did and should not remove any post I make in this thread. They're relevant to the discussion as this is in "general discussion" - you are allowing others to fund the creation of your citadel, I fund the destruction of your citadel. if they want to remove opinions from others because the thread owner isn't satisfied, they'll be having to do a lot of moderation.
Spaceprincess
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ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
338
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Posted - 2016.04.24 20:17:16 -
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locked for cleaning. Details to follow............
ISD Gallifreyan
Lt. Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCL)
Interstellar Services Department
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Captain Awkward
Republic University Minmatar Republic
127
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Posted - 2016.04.25 08:58:08 -
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Sudri Namian wrote:You might say this is not the only project and yet the ammount of players that spend their time in Wormholes is considerable and with the introduction of citadels a lot of players will cosndier doing it as a station is much more secure than a pos and if the worst thing happens your hard earnings are safe.
?????
Stuf in WH citadels gets lost just like stuff in a POS. There is no item safety in WH.
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Shayla Etherodyne
United Nations Industrial Holdings
19
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Posted - 2016.04.25 09:12:04 -
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Captain Awkward wrote:Sudri Namian wrote:You might say this is not the only project and yet the ammount of players that spend their time in Wormholes is considerable and with the introduction of citadels a lot of players will cosndier doing it as a station is much more secure than a pos and if the worst thing happens your hard earnings are safe. ????? Stuf in WH citadels gets lost just like stuff in a POS. There is no item safety in WH.
Not. It will be moved to a citadel in the same system or to a NPC station. If the stuff is moved to a citadel there is no isk cost but a time delay (5 or 7 days, I don't recall the correct number), if it is moved to a NPC station there is the time delay and a isk cost, 105 of the price of the recovered stuff. You aren't forced to pay that sum at once, you can select to retrieve only some of the items and pay for them, leaving other items for later.
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Jack Hayson
La Luna Negro inPanic
365
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Posted - 2016.04.25 09:26:16 -
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The asset safety mechanic only applies to k-space.
"Structures destroyed in wormhole space will see all of their assets lost when destroyed and subject to the magical loot fairy rules that would normally apply for ship cargohold." https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/citadels-sieges-and-you-v2/ |

Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
9
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Posted - 2016.04.25 11:08:37 -
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Ok i might have to enquire about the stuff being lost ill try to get an answer from ccp because there are 2 different sources both posted by ccp one says that the stuff is being destroyed and the other says that it gets impounded. Thank you for bringing this to my atention. |

bardghost Isu
Casteil Extraction Corporation M3 Industries
25
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Posted - 2016.04.25 11:26:49 -
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Those depend on where the citadel is.
If its in K-space then it gets impounded
If its in a W-hole then its lost.
There's No Kill Like Overkill !
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Jack Hayson
La Luna Negro inPanic
365
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Posted - 2016.04.25 11:31:11 -
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Look at the date of the two blogs. The original plan was to have asset recovery in w-space. For obvious reasons wormholers were not very happy about that and CCP changed it. |

Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
9
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Posted - 2016.04.25 11:33:57 -
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Jack Hayson wrote:Look at the date of the two blogs. The original plan was to have asset recovery in w-space. For obvious reasons wormholers were not very happy about that and CCP changed it.
Still if there is more than 1 station in the wormhole at the moment of destruction stuff should be transfered there. Also a large citadel inside c4 womrhole would be a tough nut to crack . |
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Jack Hayson
La Luna Negro inPanic
365
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Posted - 2016.04.25 11:41:43 -
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Sudri Namian wrote:Still if there is more than 1 station in the wormhole at the moment of destruction stuff should be transfered there. It does not. "subject to the magical loot fairy rules that would normally apply for ship cargohold." meaning half the assets drop as loot and the rest is destroyed.
It would be impossible to evict someone if the assets were just transferred to another citadel in system. |

Malcolm from Marketing
Klaatu Technologies
108
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Posted - 2016.04.25 12:47:44 -
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So, you want a Citidel in your C4 Wormhole but you want everybody else to pay for it for you? Seems Legit.
Also, Any Assets in a WH citidel are subject to the regular loot fairy just as they are in a Pos right now. Asset safety only applies to known space - as in everywhere but wormholes. |

Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2763
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Posted - 2016.04.25 13:56:14 -
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if you cant afford to buy one without begging i doubt you can defend one 
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Spacefaring Bastard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2016.04.25 17:35:50 -
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huh, what happened to those logs from yesterday? those were a good read. very revealing about the character of Sundri.
Even more so that he had them removed. |

Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.25 17:38:02 -
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Spacefaring Bastard wrote:huh, what happened to those logs from yesterday? those were a good read. very revealing about the character of Sundri.
Even more so that he had them removed.
I did not remoove anything as i don't have the power to do so read up the whole thread and you will find out why ! |

Spacefaring Bastard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2016.04.25 17:48:12 -
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Had them removed. you whined that someone was going to tell everyone about how shifty you were in that convo. |

Hans Bauer
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.04.25 18:02:34 -
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A Large citadel is a tough nut to crack for everyone that keeps having security concerns go on the test server place a large citadel and try to destroy it. Expecially when it its inside a wormhole. Certain individuals keep trolling this thread but then again they are all over the forum. I't wouldnt hurt you being on the topic keep or wonder why the thread gets moderated. |

Shayla Etherodyne
United Nations Industrial Holdings
22
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Posted - 2016.04.25 18:15:29 -
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Spacefaring Bastard wrote:Had them removed. you whined that someone was going to tell everyone about how shifty you were in that convo.
You know, whining about moderation don't seem very smart after you have been warned:
ISD Gallifreyan wrote:... Quote: The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread.
Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.
Even though there were multiple violations I will leave this as a Warning Further violations will be escalated to CCP appropriately. ... [quote] 12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited. The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category. |

Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
99
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Posted - 2016.04.25 18:43:35 -
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Hans Bauer wrote:A Large citadel is a tough nut to crack for everyone that keeps having security concerns go on the test server place a large citadel and try to destroy it. Expecially when it its inside a wormhole. Certain individuals keep trolling this thread but then again they are all over the forum. I't wouldnt hurt you being on the topic keep or wonder why the thread gets moderated. How many Billions are you giving? Put your ISK where your mouth is. |

Spacefaring Bastard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2016.04.25 18:44:32 -
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I haven't been warned, actually. Seeing as I didn't post any logs, I just read them for the short time before Sundri realized they made him look either incompetent in the extreme, or a scammer with poor english grammar skills who did slightly less than enough research.
I tend to have a very good memory for when people are shifty. I may forget to do basic things like eating, or to reset a spring when I put machinery back together, but I always remember people I can't trust.
And since I'm not directly posting the logs, this is well within what's allowed. |
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.25 18:51:07 -
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Ka Plaa wrote:Hans Bauer wrote:A Large citadel is a tough nut to crack for everyone that keeps having security concerns go on the test server place a large citadel and try to destroy it. Expecially when it its inside a wormhole. Certain individuals keep trolling this thread but then again they are all over the forum. I't wouldnt hurt you being on the topic keep or wonder why the thread gets moderated. How many Billions are you giving? Put your ISK where your mouth is.
He actually did he was the first person to donate. Please guys if you don't have constructive criticism stop just posting for the sake of posting so far i've been called all sorts of things. This thread is starting to be less and less civilised. Asking questions and debating is 1 thing calling someone scammer , beggar and all sort of names is another. Why ? cus it has nothing to do with the topic if you don't like the idea of a fundraiser do not support it but let each person form his own opinion . Do not turn into this into a flame war just because you have nothing better to do. |

Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
99
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Posted - 2016.04.25 20:54:25 -
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Sudri Namian wrote: just because you have nothing better to do. Do you realise the irony of saying that to others but saying others should be nice in your thread? At least star wearing a wizard hat or something.
A fundraiser or crowdfunding a project isn't a bad idea in and of itself. Community projects have potential in EvE. However, it doesn't seem as though you maybe have considered some major issues and details about the project and how the citadel will operate after construction. So people are suspicious, sorry.
That being said, good luck with your project.
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.25 20:59:16 -
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Ka Plaa wrote:Sudri Namian wrote: just because you have nothing better to do. Do you realise the irony of saying that to others but saying others should be nice in your thread? At least star wearing a wizard hat or something. A fundraiser or crowdfunding a project isn't a bad idea in and of itself. Community projects have potential in EvE. However, it doesn't seem as though you maybe have considered some major issues and details about the project and how the citadel will operate after construction. So people are suspicious, sorry. That being said, good luck with your project.
Thank you |

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
255
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:09:39 -
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Spacefaring Bastard wrote:I haven't been warned, actually. Seeing as I didn't post any logs, I just read them for the short time before Sundri realized they made him look either incompetent in the extreme, or a scammer with poor english grammar skills who did slightly less than enough research.
I tend to have a very good memory for when people are shifty. I may forget to do basic things like eating, or to reset a spring when I put machinery back together, but I always remember people I can't trust.
And since I'm not directly posting the logs, this is well within what's allowed. You can still see the logs on eve-search:
http://eve-search.com/thread/478495-1
This OP has no clue. I don't operate in J-Space, but I'll add 3 Billion for the group that kills this Citadel.
ISK will be sent to a third party to hold in advance. Updated details will be posted once that is done. |

Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:28:12 -
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More alts of the same guys great :) |

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
256
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:29:17 -
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Sudri Namian wrote:More alts of the same guys great :) Nope.
Just someone who thinks begging for ISK to build a Citadel is asking for trouble; and I'm happy to deliver where I can. |

Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:31:04 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Sudri Namian wrote:More alts of the same guys great :) Nope. Just someone who thinks begging to build a Citadel is asking for trouble; and I'm happy to deliver where I can.
However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking. |

Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2766
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:44:32 -
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Sudri Namian wrote:He actually did he was the first person to donate. Please guys if you don't have constructive criticism stop just posting for the sake of posting so far i've been called all sorts of things.
constructive: stop begging and dont build what you cant afford to lose
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
257
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Posted - 2016.04.25 21:52:42 -
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Sudri Namian wrote:However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking. I did read it. That's why I said you have no clue.
As to posting links containing chat logs, I posted a link to eve-search to this forum thread. That is not against the rules and has been done many, many times without issue in these forums (rule 35 is about posting chat logs outside C&P, not about posting links to forum threads) .
Putting bounties to kill something is very much allowed. There are even game mechanics around doing exactly that (they aren't great, but they are there). |

Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
99
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Posted - 2016.04.26 01:58:33 -
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Citadels = massive content creators for eve
May many be built in many circumstances
carpe diem |
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.26 08:26:23 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Sudri Namian wrote:However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking. I did read it. That's why I said you have no clue. You lack understanding of the loot drop mechanics of Citadels inside J-Space, you don't currently own the wormhole you plan on erecting a Citadel in, you lack understanding of what rights building a Citadel gives you (eg. it does not prevent POSs from being erected in the same hole. The only thing that will stop that is the end of the year when CCP stop POSs from being built anywhere, but then someone could just put up a rival Citadel/Manufacturing array/Mining Array/etc. in the same hole). You also seem to have little clue about the ways in which these can be attacked and don't even know who HK is. Overall, your plan is little more than a pipe dream laid out in a forum thread, with no substance to support it; and people who might see this thread and consider investing should have access to that information as it may affect their decision to donate to your begging drive. As to posting links containing chat logs, I posted a link to eve-search to this forum thread. That is not against the rules and has been done many, many times without issue in these forums (rule 35 is about posting chat logs outside C&P, not about posting links to forum threads) . Putting bounties to kill something is very much allowed. There are even game mechanics around doing exactly that (they aren't great, but they are there).
1.Stop hiding behind alts show us who your main character is 2.The confusion about loot drop mechanics you are saying i have no clue about was something to be sorted out by ccp as the patch notes came out it's clearly visible that loot inside wormholes when citadel is drops. 3. The fact is your sole purpose in this is thread is to discredit the whole project by making posts fom multiple characters on the same accounts you are using and you are trying to grasp for straws. 4 It's my project and i will continue to raise funds and fufill my dream nomather how much hate the idea or the person behind. It's also a fact that even tho there is another project with similar goals and outlined and planed exactly the same way you only sperg your hate here which leads me to belive you are actually either involved in it or invested in it and trying to protect your investment. |

CowQueen MMXII
42
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Posted - 2016.04.26 09:06:00 -
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Sudri Namian wrote: 1.Stop hiding behind alts show us who your main character is
Shouldn't you stop hiding first before demanding this from other people?
And as I expect that your main is a long time and respectable member of the wormhole community, with lots of experience in WH PVP, WH mechanics and organization of WH groups and operations, this would also generate much more confidence in your project.
Sudri Namian wrote: 3. The fact is your sole purpose in this is thread is to discredit the whole project by making posts fom multiple characters on the same accounts you are using and you are trying to grasp for straws.
The straws are more like ropes or chains. You radiate an aura of cluelessness and naivety... No idea how mechanics work, no idea how to fund this thing (except begging), no idea how to defend that thing, no background information about you to back up that you could pull something like this off - you even failed to post this in on of the appropriate forum sections.
Sudri Namian wrote: 4 It's my project and i will continue to raise funds and fufill my dream nomather how much hate the idea or the person behind it.
Raising funds for something you seem incapable of doing = scam. But good luck with that.
Moo! Uddersucker, moo!
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BIGDOG4
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2016.04.26 09:50:11 -
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Look Sudri you are doing this wrong.
What you need to do is stop feeding those trolls. Nomather what you do or say those guys will allways beat up arround the bush and call everything bs. They don't care about the community they are vultures. They are trying to provoke you saying something they can report or try to win sumpathy from others. Even if you always have the right arguments it's fighting a loosing battle becuase they will always calim that your arguments are not valid. |

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
264
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Posted - 2016.04.26 10:20:15 -
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BIGDOG4 wrote:Look Sudri you are doing this wrong.
What you need to do is stop feeding those trolls. Nomather what you do or say those guys will allways beat up arround the bush and call everything bs. They don't care about the community they are vultures. They are trying to provoke you saying something they can report or try to win sumpathy from others. Even if you always have the right arguments it's fighting a loosing battle becuase they will always calim that your arguments are not valid. Troll is such an overused word in this forum. Why does having a strong opinion equate to being a troll?
Additionally, troll is a term most often used in reference to people that reply, yet it is just as likely that the OP is the troll. After all, this is not posted in the right forum, is essentially begging the community for ISK and if you go to the eve-search history you'll see the real qualities of the OP telling another player to go kill themself.
However, I would prefer to think the OP is just naive and doesn't really have the capability to do this. Ultimately though, if you watch the Citadel trailer, more than half of it covers attacking a Citadel. These things are meant to bring content to the game. Conflict around them is not a troll. It's the whole reason Capitals are being rebalanced and all new modules and ships introduced. Conflict around Citadrls is a good thing, especially in wormholes.
If the OP wants safety, he should stick to highsec for his dream. |

Lugh Crow-Slave
2296
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Posted - 2016.04.26 10:34:29 -
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Sounds like a cash grab to me if you plan to do this come up with the starting capital without handouts and I'll assume its validity
Citadel worm hole tax
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lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
1116
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Posted - 2016.04.26 10:59:11 -
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I know I'm wasting my time here, but I'm currently supposed to be doing some work and unfortunately, this is the best entertainment I can get. Well, except that I just read a thread where someone posted a link to the site 27bslash6 which was hilarious...back to being on topic though
I am still trying to figure out why I am supposed to kill myself (according to the OP) Because I am not a supporter of your idea, I am supposed to die? Why would one fund someone with absolutely no knowledge of the game at all who also happens to be a terrible person? Even if it's not for replying to me, you haven't addressed any of the legitimate questions asked in this thread with a worthy reply.
Sudri Namian wrote: However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking.
It is allowed, I'm not sabotaging your project. Your project goal is to get a citadel created, my goal is to have it destroyed. Your goal succeeding is a precondition for the successof my goal. Having said that, I'm not sabotaging your project, I'm using it as a way to create content.
Spaceprincess
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BIGDOG4
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2016.04.26 12:52:47 -
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Again and again and again speculations and acusations. Proove it ? You keep saying its a scam you keep saying player has no knowlege of how the game works based on what ? Because as far as im concerned his/her word is as good as yours and everyone has a right to have his gaming goals achived.In my eyes i only see someone trying to achive something and you guys gank on him trying to troll him into giving up ! |

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
264
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Posted - 2016.04.26 13:02:23 -
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BIGDOG4 wrote:Again and again and again speculations and acusations. Proove it ? You keep saying its a scam you keep saying player has no knowlege of how the game works based on what ? Because as far as im concerned his/her word is as good as yours and everyone has a right to have his gaming goals achived.In my eyes i only see someone trying to achive something and you guys gank on him trying to troll him into giving up ! No, not at all.
Go to eve search and look at the thread history.
The evidence is quite clear. It's not speculation. |

BIGDOG4
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2016.04.26 13:03:23 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:BIGDOG4 wrote:Again and again and again speculations and acusations. Proove it ? You keep saying its a scam you keep saying player has no knowlege of how the game works based on what ? Because as far as im concerned his/her word is as good as yours and everyone has a right to have his gaming goals achived.In my eyes i only see someone trying to achive something and you guys gank on him trying to troll him into giving up ! No, not at all. Go to eve search and look at the thread history. The evidence is quite clear. It's not speculation. . Everyone is entitled to his own opinion you gave yours i gave mine |

Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
110
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Posted - 2016.04.26 15:01:25 -
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BIGDOG4 wrote:...trying to troll him into giving up ! ...Goonswarm Federation... LOL, well done, sir, well done!
Citadels will generate much content, I hope many are built regardless of what may happen. Are not players responsible for their own isk investment consequences? Let the games begin!
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Spacefaring Bastard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2016.04.26 15:07:47 -
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So your opinion, despite the OVERWHELMING evidence, is that this guy is a paragon of truth and intelligence and we should just funnel all the money from other people's dreams into his?
I read the logs. Hell no. Not one shiny isk. Guy has no idea what he's doing beyond "beg until everyone buys my citadel for me!" |

Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
111
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Posted - 2016.04.26 15:26:11 -
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If you are addressing me, spacefaring - my opinion is that I don't care if someone is a paragon or not. I don't care if someone is scamming or not (carpe diem, is my opinion) I hope many citadels are built by whoever however ...so they can be blown up. I read the logs also. I won't be contributing my isk...but wish anyone success in building or even scamming in regards to Citadels. vOv |

Spacefaring Bastard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2016.04.26 16:03:02 -
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My post was directed at The goon in the room. and pretty sure having a goon vouch for your idea is poison. |

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11797
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Posted - 2016.04.26 17:03:43 -
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Spacefaring Bastard wrote:My post was directed at The goon in the room. and pretty sure having a goon vouch for your idea is poison.
But is it any more poisonous than having a faceless coward NPC posting alt vouch for you? Enquiring minds want to know
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Niraia
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
445
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Posted - 2016.04.26 18:38:52 -
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ISD Gallifreyan wrote:I have removed a number of posts to this thread containing links to pictures of In-Game Logs and direct posting of In-Game logs.
Is it allowed to continue to inform readers that the OP told a player he disagreed with to kill himself, and provide evidence in the form of a screenshot via evemail on request?
GÖÑ
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Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
10
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Posted - 2016.04.27 20:41:23 -
[66] - Quote
Still alive :) |

Spacefaring Bastard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2016.04.27 23:50:06 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Spacefaring Bastard wrote:My post was directed at The goon in the room. and pretty sure having a goon vouch for your idea is poison. But is it any more poisonous than having a faceless coward NPC posting alt vouch for you? Enquiring minds want to know
This is my main. I'm not a social person, and I'm not going to lie, I'm still in the kiddie pool that is highsec until I can put together decent fits.
That may be a while as I focus primarily on industrial efforts. Though I have started working with cloaking and probing and such, so I might just start venturing into lower sec systems soonish.
Don't see much reason to join a corp at this point.
Baby steps yo. |
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