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SonicCJK Golden Fury Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:01:00 - [1] Since there was similar post for ASCN while back, anyone wanna take bets on how long before LV finally and will crumble? "Bruminor III > LV fleet = 5 bil, 1 doomsday device ignition = 20 mil, chowdown DDing his fleet = priceless"
Catstraw	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:04:00 - [2] 2 weeks, tops.
Aayan Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:04:00 - [3] I predict within a month, I see another massive dumping of minerals and an even harder blow to 0.0 mineral prices. -Steve
pershphanie The Ancient Race	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:08:00 - [4] All their stations will be gone in no more than 3 weeks.
Swift Wind 6rasshopper Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:08:00 - [5] Originally by: SonicCJK Since there was similar post for ASCN while back, anyone wanna take bets on how long before LV finally and will crumble? 3 weeks... The snowball is growing... and unfortunatly for LV the path to BoC is through them.... BoC you've done it now! Even the carebares want a piece of you... Tick Tock...
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:11:00 - [6] Bookmarking this thread for future giggles... F4T4L - Recruitment
Liabrath Gallente Argent Industries	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:17:00 - [7] I'm ganna guess that it's after CA disband === === === === === If I win an auction, please send me a contract link by EvE mail.
Zanarkand Gallente Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:23:00 - [8] Originally by: Liabrath I'm ganna guess that it's after CA disband !!! yes
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:26:00 - [9] SonicCJK, since you are obviously lacking ships to fly in Eve so you have enough time to post 24/7 on the forums, I bet that LV will win :p x x x x x x x x x x x x x x Life's a waste of time ...
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:26:00 - [10] Originally by: SonicCJK Since there was similar post for ASCN while back, anyone wanna take bets on how long before LV finally and will crumble? Have some dignity dude.
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:29:00 - [11] Originally by: Catstraw 2 weeks, tops. i was going to say the same if bob somehow defeated all their enemies in the north really quickly and swooped down to save LV i'd say 3 weeks maybe. but the combined forces of [everybody] is too much, how can one beat a fleet of a thousand leave my ***** signature alone ***********
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:34:00 - [12] Three things to look for to get a indication of whether they are collapsing: - number of people docked in LV stations. The higher the number, the greater the likelyhood of a coming collapse. - the price of minerals and the supply of BS on the LV regional markets. Check particularly for Ravens. If there is plenty supply of Ravens, it means people are selling off ratting ships, which also indicates coming collapse. - Only the RAGOON/TCF forces probably know this, how many LV did you see in fleets over the last few days and is it declining? -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft.
RaBbLe66 Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:41:00 - [13] Originally by: Malachon Draco Three things to look for to get a indication of whether they are collapsing: You missed one.. 4. When their outlying POS's are not being fueled, and when attacked absolutly no attempt is made to defend them, a sure sign that an alliance are no longer able to hold their outlying systems Snip Not appropriate - email [email protected] with a link to the sig to find out why - hutch
Xeliya Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:42:00 - [14] Edited by: Xeliya on 19/02/2007 09:40:59 Never, they may lose their space but unlike ASCN they are not weak on the inside, they will put their balls to the wall and risk it all. And if they lost their space which wont be for a few months for sure and kept fighting that would actually be bad for the coalition because LV can attack from Empire from the North end of Goon/RA space. Question is is how long will CA think they are good only entering battle behind the goons? 2nd question is how long will D2 go with out care bearing? ----------
Shaa Ku Amarr Black Knight Buccaneers	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:46:00 - [15] The only way to save LV now is for BOB to inflict so much damage on d2 and friends to force them to pull back before LV falls. This is also the only way for BOB/LV to win this war.
merc999 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:47:00 - [16] Quote: Question is is how long will CA think they are good only entering battle behind the goons? Totally unneeded, unfounded smack. Unlike you I have flown alongside CA in this war, and have been with them in the forefront of assaults. Snip Please dont be horrible to Bob with your Sig - email [email protected] - hutch
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:57:00 - [17] Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 19/02/2007 09:40:59 Never, they may lose their space but unlike ASCN they are not weak on the inside, they will put their balls to the wall and risk it all. You don't know this until its been truely put to the test. RA is the only alliance I know of who can say without any doubt they have withstood an overwhelming force and never lost their focus or resolve. Quote: And if they lost their space which wont be for a few months for sure and kept fighting that would actually be bad for the coalition because LV can attack from Empire from the North end of Goon/RA space. That's an assumption. Without space, there is no reason for LV to exist really. Fragmentation may be much closer than you think. I don't know, but I wouldn't just assume strength without proof. Quote: Question is is how long will CA think they are good only entering battle behind the goons? 2nd question is how long will D2 go with out care bearing? The unity that binds this Coalition against BoB/LV is their disgust with their enemies. Trying to fracture them is not that easy. As for D2, their homelands are safe while BoB space gets overrun. It may not mean much to BoB, but to assume D2 is feeling any real pressure here? And D2 knows they just have to keep BoB occupied for a while longer until RAGOON shows up for the final push. I am pretty sure that if ASCN had had any indication of people coming to help, that war would be far from over right now. -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft.
Hermia HIVE	Posted - 2007.02.19 09:58:00 - [18] Im curious to know where the big corps hang if the LV name is lost, The likes of Shinra, Finfleet wont simply disappear, they are well run corps no matter what people say. I think its probable that an obligation to BOB is likely, im sure leaders of the coalition have considered this.
Matrices Reborn Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.19 10:06:00 - [19] All I know is what I see, ie. empirical evidence. FACT: All weekend we had small roaming fleets cruising through core LV space. FACT: LV opposition within 1.5 - 2 hours of deployment was absolutely Zero. FACT: Finally some LV non-BS sized ships showed up to camp in insufficient numbers each time, and scattered. FACT: LV in the brightest systems on the map stayed dock, or attempted to rat. CONCLUSION: Still too early to say. Perhaps it was standing orders not to fight this weekend for whatever reason, perhaps it was demoralization. We will see.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.02.19 10:16:00 - [20] Originally by: mazzilliu Originally by: Catstraw 2 weeks, tops. i was going to say the same if bob somehow defeated all their enemies in the north really quickly and swooped down to save LV i'd say 3 weeks maybe. but the combined forces of [everybody] is too much, how can one beat a fleet of a thousand BoB would show up in Eidolons. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Material Defender Got Corp?
searchi tiberian suns	Posted - 2007.02.19 11:18:00 - [21] find their capital shipyards.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.19 11:25:00 - [22] I think LV's resistance in their current space will be limited/nonexistant in maybe 2 months, will be interesting to see how their alliance holds together through losing their stations.. http://eve.klaki.net/
Kruugore Minmatar Vigilant Justice	Posted - 2007.02.19 11:26:00 - [23] Assuming other battles keep BoB occupied defending their own arses: Within 2 Weeks. If BoB is free'd up... Much Longer. Mr. K VIGILANT JUSTICE CEO/FOUNDER EVE Vault, A Great Community
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.02.19 11:27:00 - [24] How long to kill the Goons? How long to kill RA? Look back of what happened! Goons were driven back from 0.0 ('Will Goons be allowed to build in 0.0 eveer again? No, never.' 'RA is dead' ...) I think that eve history shows very clearly that territory means not much when it comes to the survival of an alliance. The coalition should not underestimate LV. If there is the will and hearth to fight, then LV will never crumble. But if their morale is crushed and they think that all is lost, well, yes. Then they are finished. Who knows? It is possible that they fall within 2 weeks, it is possible that they will still exist in 2 years.
Ackaroth Gallente Plundering Penguins	Posted - 2007.02.19 11:39:00 - [25] Agreed with above. RA was not crushed when former coalition (LV, CHIMP, -V-, KOS, maybe more) pushed them back into 1 region. RA numbers dropped quite a bit, but they never stopped fighting. I dont see LV falling quite as easily as people say, but then again, I'm not there in those fights. Hard to run such a big alliance though. If their pvp people can take some pressure off their logistics people, should make for a lengthy fight. RAGOON is quite alot of ships in the field however, and once Detorid goes, LV will be quite squished in by hostiles (except from south by bob renters...) Originally by: Hamatitio "Oregon Trail ALliance [Wagon]" Description: You Caught Malaria and died. Plundering Penguins is recruiting. Convo/Evemail, or join channel PING1 in game.
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2007.02.19 11:59:00 - [26] 6 weeks
TOTALHELLDEATH	Posted - 2007.02.19 12:13:00 - [27] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Ivan K ([email protected])
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.19 12:28:00 - [28] Bookmarking this thread for future quote usage M.Corp BPC Packages
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.19 12:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Ackaroth Agreed with above. RA was not crushed when former coalition (LV, CHIMP, -V-, KOS, maybe more) pushed them back into 1 region. RA numbers dropped quite a bit, but they never stopped fighting. I dont see LV falling quite as easily as people say, but then again, I'm not there in those fights. Hard to run such a big alliance though. If their pvp people can take some pressure off their logistics people, should make for a lengthy fight. RAGOON is quite alot of ships in the field however, and once Detorid goes, LV will be quite squished in by hostiles (except from south by bob renters...) 1 solar system not 1 region ... and props to RA for that. Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
pshepherd Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.02.19 12:45:00 - [30] As long as LV have allies who will defend their space, they'll take a long time to fall. The problem with ASCN was that when bob attacked them, barely anyone came to their aid. At the moment LV has the help of several (albeit smaller) local alliances, and if the situation gets really bad, i'm sure BoB will come over to pew-pew

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