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Vae Abeo
Vae Caudex Corporation
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Posted - 2012.11.08 03:26:00 -
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Devon Krah'tor wrote:+10
Could we please have a Dev comment or acknowledge this idea, its truly brilliant.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
228
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:55:00 -
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If you give intelligence an advantage over brute force, what'll happen, Pandemic Legion will finally kick Goon's ass?
I've got cookies, anyone bring popcorn?
+1 for active and passive sensors -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2012.12.02 21:25:00 -
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I'd like to bump this again, and if CCP Fozzie hasn't seen it yet, he really should.
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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Endymion Varg
Interstellar Vermin Inc.
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Posted - 2012.12.04 07:12:00 -
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My humble suggestion for an addition to this great concept:
Make solar systems dynamic. Planets, asteroids, moons, stars and all other objects should follow orbits and constantly move. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
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Posted - 2012.12.04 08:24:00 -
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Endymion Varg wrote:My humble suggestion for an addition to this great concept:
Make solar systems dynamic. Planets, asteroids, moons, stars and all other objects should follow orbits and constantly move. I wholeheartedly agree, and for many reasons! After all, they already have orbit lines. Now they just need to follow them! -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Tempelman N
Vengance Inc.
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Posted - 2012.12.12 16:33:00 -
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I run a stealth bomber squadron most days and I think these changes would let us bombers truly hunt among the stars like I always wanted to. But right now? I come into local and everybody runs like a ***** because I'm to well known. CCP has basically let players take the surprise out of the only ship in the game THAT'S DESIGNED AROUND SURPRISE! I say the changes suggested are WAY WAY WAY overdue. Lets face it guys, EVE's at 50 0-00 people and its been that way for a while, lets start showing CCP that this changes are necessary not only for the longevity of the game but for the players as well. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
351
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Posted - 2012.12.12 19:36:00 -
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I'm in favor of complexity but this is still a stealth cloaking nerf thread. The change to cloaking you ask for is not acceptable; timers cause problems at gate camps and in WH's where they get in the way of normal sensitive use; yes, I am bringing up wormholes.. because any change you make to cloaks will effect wormhole play in a big way.
-1 in general.. but interesting read on some specifics [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
2536
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Posted - 2012.12.13 08:26:00 -
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to the top!
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2012.12.14 18:22:00 -
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I like these ideas. I have always wondered why you can't hide behind planets, moons, or even asteroids (for small enough ships) in order to avoid detection. Gathering information is too perfect. Why am I, a low-SP toon, able to distinguish between a Stabber and Vagabond at 14 AU away with one click of a button just as well as a high-SP toon? How can ship sensor distinguish between the tiny energy signature of a frigate at a star over that of the star itself? Warping to the star should serve a purpose, rather than act as a place where people warp to in order to duel. The various regional descriptions should also impact visibility. I liked how on the first few pages someone referenced to the Vatta War series. I LOVED how sensor were depicted there, and would also love it if EVE were the same way.
Looking at the star map, you see bits of RP fluff such as the Cord of the Elements, the Vapor Sea, black holes. Look at the regional description of Scalding Pass! These are all areas that should realistically mask signatures, distort readings, and generally make it harder to detect ships or even pilot.
+1 to this post. Make space space-y. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
251
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Posted - 2012.12.15 09:33:00 -
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Streya Jormagdnir wrote:Warping to the star should serve a purpose, rather than act as a place where people warp to in order to duel. This gives me an idea:
I think warping to the star should land you in a random place at a specific distance from the star instead of a specific place (fleet members would all warp to the same spot of course), and you should suffer some negative effects while at the star but it'll protect you from on-board sensors and make you more difficult to probe.
Perhaps the negative effect would be that your capacitor and shield regen are reduced while you have shields (diverting power to protect you from the radiation), and if your shields go down, your whole ships starts to gradually take heat damage, though much slower than overheating modules would. And the longer you stay, the stronger the effect gets (up to a max at around 5 minutes). So if you're alone, you could hang out there for a while and be fine, but if you get into PVP with someone who just arrived, you might be at a disadvantage. Also, some players might design fits specifically for attacking sun-hiders. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
3254
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Posted - 2013.02.08 14:23:00 -
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bump for the bump gods! topics for the topic throne!
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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Daichi Yamato
Swamp Bucket Swamp Bucket Empire
627
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:14:00 -
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much love for this thread.
always wanted to be able to use other objects to mask my signature and generally use terrain more. |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Unclaimed.
1296
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:38:00 -
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A lot of this is fantastic. I wish it did not have the impression of being such a major change to implement. Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Thorian Crystal
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
8
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Posted - 2013.02.08 20:56:00 -
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Well the change would have to be gradual and preinformed. Add something then and more later and so on. Any suggestions of the steps, what to add first and what next? |
Wu Jiaqiu
Heretic Army Atrocitas
140
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Posted - 2013.02.08 21:00:00 -
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If they choose to implement this idea, we should expect to wait a good year or year and a half. Theres balancing and lots of other improvements going on at the moment. I expect this to be taken up quite a bit later. |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Unclaimed.
1296
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Posted - 2013.02.08 21:01:00 -
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Thorian Crystal wrote:Well the change would have to be gradual and preinformed. Add something then and more later and so on. Any suggestions of the steps, what to add first and what next? Oh, that's fairly easy.
Start with the changes requiring the least programming changes as well as the least player effort to adapt to.
I would suggest things like I posted here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112964&find=unread
Which basically uses the current overview, adds an auto-cycle to d-scan, and encourages use of sensors more.
Local Chat is kind of overpowered, there are many ideas how to modify that. I won't go into that here, but I can suggest a few ways to change it gradually if needed. Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Dexterous Spider
Reliables Inc THORN Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.02.08 21:33:00 -
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Players currently complain about the lack of ability to carve out a small niche of space to call their own without belonging to a major Alliance or Coalition. The reason this doesn't currently work is because players are too easily tracked down and precisely located. It's simply impossible to exist somewhere and not be found.
~What would be the point of PVP if all people did was hide and NOT be found? I know you say dont bring up W space but thats what it offers, for the most part.
An important bit here: EVE NEEDS "SPACE TERRAIN" ON A SYSTEM AND GALACTIC LEVEL that will allow players to mask and hide their presence.
~No, we dont. Even if it exsisted, there are SOV units, and if you cannot defend them, you lose space. Once more, I refer you to W space.
Further more, EVEN IF all the changes you wanted were taken into effect, imagine the implications of jumping into a system, and being insta-boomed by said larger forces of people. None of these implimented ideas help the smaller gangs. But hey, +20 for 30 onlined hidden not seen nyx's to **** up your chosen roam. |
Daichi Yamato
Swamp Bucket Swamp Bucket Empire
629
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Posted - 2013.02.09 01:47:00 -
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i can see why no one 'likes' u
Dexterous Spider wrote:
~What would be the point of PVP if all people did was hide and NOT be found? I know you say dont bring up W space but thats what it offers, for the most part.
as oppose to what they do now? which is dock, POS up, cloak or log off. the changes put forward would also make it easier to ambush and spring traps on the un-witting.
Dexterous Spider wrote: An important bit here: EVE NEEDS "SPACE TERRAIN" ON A SYSTEM AND GALACTIC LEVEL that will allow players to mask and hide their presence.
~No, we dont. Even if it exsisted, there are SOV units, and if you cannot defend them, you lose space. Once more, I refer you to W space.
using terrain has been a part of masking ones presence since forever, and hiding ships in asteroid belts and gas clouds has been often represented in sci-fi culture. it also means u dnt need a cloak or hold one system out for every single clandestine maneuver.
Dexterous Spider wrote: Further more, EVEN IF all the changes you wanted were taken into effect, imagine the implications of jumping into a system, and being insta-boomed by said larger forces of people. None of these implimented ideas help the smaller gangs. But hey, +20 for 30 onlined hidden not seen nyx's to **** up your chosen roam.
u could not be more wrong. smaller gangs are much harder to lock down than blobs, which are obvious to identify and locate. it greatly empowers small gangs by allowing them to circumvent detection or pursuit by larger forces. in essence, small and fast gangs become more useful for slipping into enemy territory and attacking exposed targets. the raw strength of the blob however, remains unaffected and just as useful for direct attacks and defences, ur enemy is just more likely to see that u are coming. |
hacksideways
Assah Shipping Company
15
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Posted - 2013.02.09 08:09:00 -
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+1
I've always wanted a better method of information distribution in EVE. At first I thought I wouldn't like where the OP was going, but the ideas are solid, elegant, and set the stage for more complex information warfare and manipulation to build down the road. |
Bum Shadow
Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
24
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Posted - 2013.02.15 19:45:00 -
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This, along with celestials following their orbits would be extremely cool.
It would make for an extremely dynamic galactic map and each system due to orbits wouldn't have "known" safe and dangerous areas as they would shift and move.
By adding this system you remove the requirement of the cloak. But to prevent half the game crying. You could make the covops ship tree be the only ships capable of using an actual cloak at all. Perhaps not as powerful as a covops cloak. Maybe just a standard T2 cloak would be the new covops cloak. So you still have the option to completely hide. But you cannot move around totally safe. And only the specific stealth ships can fit them too. Not normal ships.
Overall though, these would be AWESOME changes. |
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