can't see why they would remove it, there are other ways to balance it, also been hinted at the dust players can shoot back. :)

edit can you imagine the crying, pop goes that carrier

another very good point, can a single player perform orbital strikes with an insured ship?

Temporate and barron are to begin with other world will be expanded into with new tools and equipment.
There is a new level of infastructure that provides sovren holders to secure thier space much more, which is what the dust players will be wrecking.

That was really my question, what is this new Infastructure, how will it affect sovenreity and why game balance wise when competeing with trillion isk fleets.

Dust 514 marines are infomorphic creatures like we are, with one exception, its one mind controlling a generic clone.
Troop insertinos are handeled locally by basically manufacutring everythign the war needs on the spot, its much more efficent that way.

You would still need to 'drop' your factory, and from what CCP have said logistics IS supposed to be part of the interaction, last I heard anyhow.

MT in dust is to allow an edge of those who cannot get state level funding from allainces.

I think that'll encourage more to quit frankly. example 'why the hell am I paying X per week to play this game just to keep up with Goonmercs inc., I'm off back to Halo/MW/BF'

4 I think its pefectly balanced out with only allowing capital ships do the stuff and only capitals getting hit back.

I wasn't aware of that announcement but would say that excludes 90% of EVE's populace

5 A sniper with the right gun can probably take out a tank but would have difficulty aiming it on a person. Also there isnt just shoot kill there is shoot enfeeble then kill mechanics going on, Electronic warfare is going to be the biggest differentiator in this shooter, sure there is emp grenades but there are stasis webfirer fields, target painters, hell even a tracking disruptor and even some more exotic electronic warfare we havent seen in space yet.

Not sure what that has to do with the 'timing' aspect ie. is it one shot one kill or 30 secs emptying my clip into that Amar battlesuit

Yes thats gonna cause some lulz.

DUST PLAYER: Please nice mister podder can you escort me to my map?

EVE PLAYER: Whats the isk/hr ? not sure that fits in with my oppurtunity cost assesment.

or

DUST PLAYER: Please nice mister podder can you escort me to my map?

EVE PLAYER: Yes sure no worries

EVE PLAYER (CORP CHANNEL): Nother meat van on it's way boys

DUST PLAYER: We waz ganked

EVE PLAYER: Damn sorry dude IRL stuff was called AFK *shrugs and enjoys bitter dusty tears*

Oh the fun we'll have

Until he wises up and spreads the word.

You do realize they don't need us to take a planet for themselves, and that has an effect on your ability to hold SOV.

You forgot the part where CCP charges you the price of the game (pobably 60 bucks) + 20 bucks *entrance fee* to buy in-game currency to get weapons and ****...

Oh, and you also forgot the part where they will milk the **** out of you, so that you can get that new shiny gun or vehicle, so that you eventually pay as much as you would to get a whole gaming computer just to be able to compete with all the other pay2win guys.

You'll see... It will be just like Battlefield Heroes, where you have to spend like 300 dollars to have any chance against anyone, because non-MT weapons are pathetic and underpowered compared to the ones people buy with real $$$.

OH! And I almost forgot!

You might wanna' read this: http://news.tgn.tv/dust-514-fail-and-lies/

The game is totally free to play, for twenty bucks it also has cross game content with EVE, on different platforms and itGÇÖs really innovative, by being on the wrong platform.

Being AWARE theres a pirate aspect to EVE doesn't make it magically go away. Dummy corps, alts, who's gonna be able to track you.

Unless you mean until they realise podders won't do diddley for you unless theres MOAR ISK involved, and as the system reallies on us to accomidate the dusties, they wise up spread the word and play something else.



Don't see why you think this has any bearing on the logistic issue as sitting on a planet with your corp does not a battle make. Someone needs to try and invade you, to do that they need to enlist the help of podders.

Also WHAT effect, and WHY, do you think SOV holders in EVE are gonna be happy there trillion isk fleets and installations are gonna be more vunrable because of the comings and goings of some 'flash in the pan' console players.

If they can't adapt to the changing face of warfare in EVE they will be consumed by those that can.

Well that would kind of depend on how much it actually changes things in EVE. Too much influence given to DUST mechanics could be as bad as too little, it's a fine balance that needs to be found.

I'll tell you what is the most dodgy thing about DUST imho... it's the apparent lack of a literal or metaphorical "sticky grenade". In every FPS I've ever played there is the potential for that "prayer" play. That moment when your shield is down and you have a sliver of health left, and you are about to die, but 'oh wait! what's this?! I still have a rocket/sticky/bomb/whatever' and you take your ordinance in and sacrifice yourself taking out 2 or 3 enemy players. That is a great moment in the game. The smug self-satisfaction of turning the tables. ...or that 'prayer' shot where you land the perfectly placed sniper shot from across the map. ...or that 'prayer' lobbed sticky that was throw way up in the air, bounced off of 2 grav lifts, and caught a vehicle in flight. These are great moments for FPS people. They also make for great videos and advertising. I sincerely hope that those kind of videos become prolific after the launch of DUST, and not lame videos showing 10 dudes opening up on a single guy with these purported 'logistics' support armor guys making the target appear invulnerable. The latter will turn people off to the game faster than anything.

Dare I ask...

CCP... gotz sticky grenade?

I'd rather not speculate too much before solid alpha stage feedback, but would this be the chance to actually fly our ships to some state while providing support for ground forces? Also cross platform synergy is something which I don't remember never have been accomplished, one way for Dust hit to through and kick some extra speed into EVE too.

ESp