You don't need all that. You can replace the low slots with all MLU. Flying a skiff with any sort of logical shield tank is already enough to never become a target (unless you made it personal).

Hawke, dude are you by any chance, uuuhhhmmm a douche? :D

Dude, listen. First of all Hulk is heavy. You don't just warp out. Secondly it all happened fast. I activated my two other shield mods and hoped that the Concord will come. In the meanwhile I jump to hauler and tried to warp her out and she made it out. Get it?

as a miner for 12 years... dude...

1) fit a better tank or use a mack, it has a better tank.

2) mine with your friends

3) join another corp

4) stop whining and don't afk mine, seriously you should of been able to tank them both or bail when you saw them.

Hello there!

So I am a miner, trying to make ISK, minding my own business in 0.7 security. A good day to play, I've been mining for like 6-7 hours already. Making that ISK. Then I see two destroyers coming in and blowing up my Hulk along with my pod. What a great design. What a great game to play.

Let's assume these two Catalysts cost 10mil to make ready to fly.
Let's assume I made my Hulk by spending 250mil. Insured it for 20m too.
10m kills 250mil before Concord can react to, in a 0.7 security.

What a reasonable ratio. What magical numbers I see. The math here is incredibly satisfying.

So 6-7 hours I spent mining are down the drain. Incredible design! So correct! So on point!
I am loving this game so freaking much!

Thank you CCP! Can't wait to buy another Hulk and go through this again! So exciting!

Page 2 and a representative of CODE. hasn't shown up to make you a very generous offer of protection? Man we are slacking today.

It's a good deal though, a great deal even, some even say it's a steal.

What a great design. What a great game to play.

Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Thank you CCP! Can't wait to buy another Hulk and go through this again! So exciting!

Have you ever been able to change someone's behavior by quoting that?

No, but you can certainly call them insane with that quote.

Hello there!

So I am a miner, trying to make ISK, minding my own business in 0.7 security. A good day to play, I've been mining for like 6-7 hours already. Making that ISK. Then I see two destroyers coming in and blowing up my Hulk along with my pod. What a great design. What a great game to play.

Let's assume these two Catalysts cost 10mil to make ready to fly.
Let's assume I made my Hulk by spending 250mil. Insured it for 20m too.
10m kills 250mil before Concord can react to, in a 0.7 security.

What a reasonable ratio. What magical numbers I see. The math here is incredibly satisfying.

So 6-7 hours I spent mining are down the drain. Incredible design! So correct! So on point!
I am loving this game so freaking much!

Thank you CCP! Can't wait to buy another Hulk and go through this again! So exciting!

Well, why does a 250+M Isk Isk-making-ship blow up to some ****** 10+M Isk ships? Yes the OP made mistakes but he points at a general problem. What would you expect to happen when the same guys jumped a Mission ship in the same price class? Would you even bother to look what sort of flys is tickeling at your shield?

Why do such valuable ships have such horrible attacks? Yes they have some drones, colour me impressed. If mining ships have a capable offence there would be a lot more mining in low/Null because the risk would be much smaller to get killed by any lone ganker. If you attack a normal mission ship that is 3 times your value you will not stand a bad chance if you not planed very carefully. If you do it to miners they will stand no chance. CCP should balance the mining ships to be more self sufficient and not be dependent on others, may it be Concord or some friends, for defense. And Weapons are defense for these ships because if you blow something to kingdom come you reduce the incoming damage.
Any ratting ship is self sufficient and you even find totally self sufficient ships like the Marauders. There is nothing like this in the mining/freigther department. If you are tackled you are dead, end of story, because the only limit the attacker has to kill you is the downtime (in low/Null).
These ships should stand no chance against battleships in the same "weight" Class but at the moment they loose against everything that can fit a turret/launcher.

Thank you all for you inputs.

When I re-activated my account I had a Mackinaw and I thought why I am not using a Hulk instead. The old me from a couple years back probably knew Hulks were getting ganked easily and they were for mining operations. I am rusty and somewhat "bound" to make mistakes I guess.

At first, when I just lost a day's worth of course I was discourage, but that we go over it with you all I know that was purely an error on my part and I am no longer feeling bad about. I learned (relearned) a lot.

Thank you all!
Fly safe!

Well, why does a 250+M Isk Isk-making-ship blow up to some ****** 10+M Isk ships? Yes the OP made mistakes but he points at a general problem. What would you expect to happen when the same guys jumped a Mission ship in the same price class? Would you even bother to look what sort of flys is tickeling at your shield?

Why do such valuable ships have such horrible attacks? Yes they have some drones, colour me impressed. If mining ships have a capable offence there would be a lot more mining in low/Null because the risk would be much smaller to get killed by any lone ganker. If you attack a normal mission ship that is 3 times your value you will not stand a bad chance if you not planed very carefully. If you do it to miners they will stand no chance. CCP should balance the mining ships to be more self sufficient and not be dependent on others, may it be Concord or some friends, for defense. And Weapons are defense for these ships because if you blow something to kingdom come you reduce the incoming damage.
Any ratting ship is self sufficient and you even find totally self sufficient ships like the Marauders. There is nothing like this in the mining/freigther department. If you are tackled you are dead, end of story, because the only limit the attacker has to kill you is the downtime (in low/Null).
These ships should stand no chance against battleships in the same "weight" Class but at the moment they loose against everything that can fit a turret/launcher.

Skiff can be pretty nasty.

If you make mining ships combat capable, then they become combat ships. We already have plenty of those!

At Fanfest CCP said they would give a new gimmick to the Rorqual, a sort of invulnerability field to keep miners alive (but can't move) until help arrives. Good idea to promote PVE-PVP interaction other than pure ganks, imo.