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Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
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Posted - 2016.05.08 17:41:12 -
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Romana Tash-Keram wrote:Oh! And now, do this mean that we're all psychotics, paranoids, social misfits who are in need of a therapy? 
Well...in large part, yes. :)
"The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
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Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony
The Wraithguard.
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Posted - 2016.05.09 07:29:35 -
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Romana Tash-Keram wrote:Oh! And now, do this mean that we're all psychotics, paranoids, social misfits who are in need of a therapy?
Yes.
But fear not.
I offer therapy sessions for 880 mil per 4 hours. |
Sunset Airguitar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.09 09:23:52 -
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Demica Diaz wrote:II have lost all friends I used to fly with, eleven of them and none left because EVE was hard. They left because it was boring.
That is actually what separates EVE Online from other MMOs. With other games it is the developer's responsibility to make the game less boring; with EVE, it's mostly the player's responsibility to make the game less boring.
In fact, if there is anything that newbies should take away from the New Player Experience, it is this: It is up to you to make the game less boring.
Which, to be fair, ain't the greatest tagline.
Below The 80s
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Demica Diaz
SE-1
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Posted - 2016.05.09 12:03:02 -
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Sunset Airguitar wrote:Demica Diaz wrote:II have lost all friends I used to fly with, eleven of them and none left because EVE was hard. They left because it was boring. That is actually what separates EVE Online from other MMOs. With other games it is the developer's responsibility to make the game less boring; with EVE, it's mostly the player's responsibility to make the game less boring. In fact, if there is anything that newbies should take away from the New Player Experience, it is this: It is up to you to make the game less boring.Which, to be fair, ain't the greatest tagline.
I understand your point of view. There lie small problem though. Eventually, no matter how creative player you are. You will run out of content to make in area you enjoy EVE most. Knowing that no matter how much you wait. The game will not change for you, ever. All you are left with is the dream.
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
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Posted - 2016.05.09 17:27:36 -
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Demica Diaz wrote:I understand your point of view. There lie small problem though. Eventually, no matter how creative player you are. You will run out of content to make in area you enjoy EVE most. Knowing that no matter how much you wait. The game will not change for you, ever. All you are left with is the dream.
Kind of my debacle as well. I managed to actually complete my objectives in Eve. I'm done. There are no remaining objectives in which I, as a person, have any further interest. I'm simply put, no longer willing to put in as much effort as I used to to progress, mainly because there is nothing left to progress towards that isn't completely redundant by now, or riddled with problems that somehow come down to: I have a job and a social life and I can't be arsed with demanding video games. I stepped down as CEO due to a lack of motivation to do this mountain of work for a slight increase in epeen. However, I still admire the interconnectivity of systems within Eve and how social it is, and thoroughly enjoy it's lore and setting although I'm no expert on the matter. It remains the best MMO I ever played... it's the sole MMO I played for more then a few weeks and the only video game I played for more then 3+ years. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
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Posted - 2016.05.09 18:00:58 -
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To the OP, go and jump in a carrier, my god it rocks, even this player who was jaded and upset with CCP over the Medium Citadels having no market has had a great big smile put back on my face by the awesome changes to carriers. You need to try it, its that good.
Ella's Snack bar. The Hisec sandbox is basically no longer a themepark for gankers now that CCP have rebalanced key areas. Well done CCP
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Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
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Posted - 2016.05.09 19:53:54 -
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People should stop being so defensive about suggestions for changes in EVE. Clearly there's room for two worlds in EVE, one that appeals to the current niche crowd, and one that the average guy can get involved with. Both player types can even coexist and benefit from having the other type in their game. |
Sustrai Aditua
Irubo Kovu
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Posted - 2016.05.10 02:56:38 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:In a sandbox, the only sand is the one that the creator puts in. So yes, EVE's sandbox was made in a certain way and that way limits what you can do in the sandbox. Ahz jus' yankin' yer chain. RAWR! 
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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Drake Valteric
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.05.10 12:30:11 -
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I agree with a ton of your points. A solo player beginning to join and experience Eve early on can easily be lost in the train of thought that the player-to-player experience is nonexistent. And in many ways, it's on the player to have to move outside their comfort zone and commit to a corporation's schedule in order to find friends or comrades to fly around with and enjoy the game.
Overall though, I still find my early-game experience to still remain to be enjoyable, just a few gray areas to pass through first. My own opinion though, Eve is the game it is due to the drive and community in the path it's been going. And being new, I don't see that much of a reason to change it. Speedbumps in the road, that is all. |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2016.05.10 13:27:22 -
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eve is eve, what are you trying to say, OP?
If Eve isnt for you, you woundnt play it.
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Jovian Death
Jovian Vengeance
Archetype.
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Posted - 2016.05.10 13:42:55 -
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The Sandbox is a virtual world where you as a player create your own content.
Having played EvE for many years on many chars I think the most time ive been away is about 3-4 months max.
I enjoy the content it provides and all the updates and patches. There are still many things I haven't tried in EvE and there is still so much for me to learn.
When I first started I read up a lot on what to expect and what path I would like to choose. I have been on many paths with many friends and I have also spent a lot of time on my own just flying through space doing my own thing.
Ive seen a lot of chars go there own separate way and leave EvE or try something different. I find each day refreshing on what I can do. Yes I have had days when im bored and thing hmm is this is all its cracked up to be but then I change and try something else. When im bored of that I go back to doing what im good at.
Im not criticizing the OP but I think you either have had enough or your should try something new. CCP gave us this box and we have created pretty much 90% of what happens.
CCP deserve a huge round of applause for making this game what it is and each and every player that has come and gone needs a big clap too. Except that creepy guy who keeps mailing me about my char the freak  |
Ma'am
Search and Deploy
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Posted - 2016.05.10 14:01:17 -
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As a Solo Pvp'er and EvE enthusiast, I, in my opinion disagree is OP argument (If there was one).
Firstly, you can play solo. Sure I may never run my own hub or take space but I can and will certainly play my part in shaping it, the "butterfly effect" comes to mind.
We are merely ants partaking in fest pool of social activity, what you achieve with in that time is only limited to what you are socially capable of.
Secondly, the OP was a lot about nothing. Most people give up reading after the first paragraph since there was no constructive criticism. Don't like something? Then don't just say, give a solution. |
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2016.05.10 19:00:41 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:The real reason most people dont like it is.... Its WAY too much like real life. Thats it. Nothing else. You have to figure things out and deal with people you like, dont like, tolerate, and do things on your own just like life. Most people dont want a real world simulator set in space. As real life sucks solo too. Its hard and most people dont do hard at all. They want a "game" to escape real life. Mostly cuz theyre real lives suck. For some this allows them to vent their frustrations by shooting miners and harvesting tears, for others its space mafia online and for still others its building a lil empire for themselves somewhere in the stars.
And CCP does nothing BUT force people to interact, most often explosively with cannon fire and pew pew lazors.
This.
Playing EVE activly often feels like having a 2nd life with a very boring job (ISK grinding). I have several active EVE accounts, but i spend most of my gaming time with other games because after working / studying im often too exhausted for Excel Online.
I would love features like the dojo ... fun stuff that you can do without hours of preparation and waiting time. But if you suggest features like this most EVE players are like "ERMAGERD IT BREAKS SANDBOX. ITS NOT TEDIOUS, SO IT WOULDNT FIT INTO EVE" |
Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
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Posted - 2016.05.10 19:27:43 -
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Well, what's stopping CCP from creating a few sandcastles for players to knock over when they enter the game. |
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