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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
2032
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Posted - 2016.05.13 15:08:23 -
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I'm just looking for an actual basis for your new ship. How does it make the game better?
It's a pretty simple question. "you're failing doesn't quite answer it"
It's a serious and basic question for this forum. It needs an answer for your idea to succeed. |
Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2016.05.13 15:23:19 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:I'm just looking for an actual basis for your new ship. How does it make the game better?
It's a pretty simple question. "you're failing doesn't quite answer it"
It's a serious and basic question for this forum. It needs an answer for your idea to succeed.
a) I am against the new ship, my sugestion is different. Trust me when i say reading comprehension is your friend. b) it does answer it, you're not understanding what you read. c) answers have been provided. Repeating my self won't help you I'm afraid. |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
2032
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Posted - 2016.05.13 15:39:03 -
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Glitch Online wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:I'm just looking for an actual basis for your new ship. How does it make the game better?
It's a pretty simple question. "you're failing doesn't quite answer it"
It's a serious and basic question for this forum. It needs an answer for your idea to succeed. a) I am against the new ship, my sugestion is different. Trust me when i say reading comprehension is your friend. b) it does answer it, you're not understanding what you read. c) answers have been provided. Repeating my self won't help you I'm afraid.
Are you a Reaver alt? |
Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2016.05.13 15:49:56 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote: Are you a Reaver alt?
... and that is relevant to the topic how? |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
2033
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Posted - 2016.05.13 16:21:05 -
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Glitch Online wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote: Are you a Reaver alt?
... and that is relevant to the topic how?
It is to a lot of folks, but I'll play along....
How does no head shotting an FC make the game better? |
Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2016.05.13 17:23:18 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:
It is to a lot of folks, but I'll play along....
How does no head shotting an FC make the game better?
Well you'll have to play by your self, this post isn't a game, it's about a game. As for your question, I've already answered it. You're welcome to ask it again thou.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
157
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Posted - 2016.05.13 21:26:40 -
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Live somewhere that requires more than F1 monkeys to fight and you'll suddenly find yourself with some backup FCs without even trying. |
Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2016.05.13 23:36:54 -
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Glitch Online wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:
It is to a lot of folks, but I'll play along....
How does no head shotting an FC make the game better?
Well you'll have to play by your self, this post isn't a game, it's about a game. As for your question, I've already answered it. You're welcome to ask it again thou. Incorrect.
See the picture and name you post under? Yeah, the forums are just another part of the meta that revolves around EvE.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2016.05.14 00:09:43 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Live somewhere that requires more than F1 monkeys to fight and you'll suddenly find yourself with some backup FCs without even trying.
Or... i could continue to do what i do and adjust to changes and the idea of a change whether they benefit me or not. You're not saying anything that hasn't been said already. |
Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2016.05.14 00:10:32 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Glitch Online wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:
It is to a lot of folks, but I'll play along....
How does no head shotting an FC make the game better?
Well you'll have to play by your self, this post isn't a game, it's about a game. As for your question, I've already answered it. You're welcome to ask it again thou. Incorrect. See the picture and name you post under? Yeah, the forums are just another part of the meta that revolves around EvE.
Oh cool, when do i get to roll the D20 then? |
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
158
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Posted - 2016.05.14 02:04:12 -
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Glitch Online wrote:Or... i could continue to do what i do and adjust to changes and the idea of a change whether they benefit me or not. You're not saying anything that hasn't been said already.
Maybe (just maybe) that's because you're being told what you're suggesting isn't the best idea.
You should adjust to changes. I agree 100%. Get more capable FCs. End game isn't supposed to be easy. Or are you trolling? It seems like you are, reading responses. |
Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2016.05.14 02:33:04 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Glitch Online wrote:Or... i could continue to do what i do and adjust to changes and the idea of a change whether they benefit me or not. You're not saying anything that hasn't been said already. Maybe (just maybe) that's because you're being told what you're suggesting isn't the best idea. You should adjust to changes. I agree 100%. Get more capable FCs. End game isn't supposed to be easy. Or are you trolling? It seems like you are, reading responses.
Nope, not trolling. Just responding in kind, i also refuse to enable those who continue to ask the same question when an answer has already been given. It may not be what they want to hear or in the format that they expect, but the answer is there.
I agree end-game ( and this may or may not exist for all in this Sand-Box ) isn't suppose to be easy, but as i've stated before, no one way of playing is the right way for every one, and not all ideas are bad just because another player disagrees with the game play it'll bring.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
2527
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Posted - 2016.05.14 02:44:46 -
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soooo
what is to stop me from swapping FCs and wing commanders as new ships get called primary?
WAIT
i figured this out it is actually a stealth nerf HS ganking thread
want to get your freighter through just logg in all your alts into shuttles and fly through with it
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Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2016.05.14 02:50:18 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:soooo
what is to stop me from swapping FCs and wing commanders as new ships get called primary?
WAIT
i figured this out it is actually a stealth nerf HS ganking thread
want to get your freighter through just logg in all your alts into shuttles and fly through with it
I've eddited my original post several times... you may want to look at it again. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
2527
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Posted - 2016.05.14 03:01:35 -
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Glitch Online wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:soooo
what is to stop me from swapping FCs and wing commanders as new ships get called primary?
WAIT
i figured this out it is actually a stealth nerf HS ganking thread
want to get your freighter through just logg in all your alts into shuttles and fly through with it I've eddited my original post several times... you may want to look at it again.
well thats just awful you need to move commanders around now based on who needs be warp the group
and you said nothing about freighters
also why do you think ppl don't FC from logistics
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
9897
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Posted - 2016.05.14 03:02:35 -
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Here's a trick that some good FCs do:
Decentralize the command structure
You have an FC for maneuvering and scouting. This person job is to find you a fight and get you into the best position to fight it. You have an FC for target calling. This person's job is simple; choose the best targets to win the fight. Have multiple Target callers in case one of them gets shot down. You have an EWar/Logi FC. Their job is to perform their specialty to direct support to friendly firepower where needed.
By keeping everything separate, you make it so that the enemy fleet has a hard time "scattering" the hostile fleet. The tradeoff is that it does take practice and trust in the judgement of others.
How did you Veterans start?
"Learn how things work. The intricacies, interactions, and hard limits... knowing these things will grant you far more power in the long run."
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Lugh Crow-Slave
2527
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Posted - 2016.05.14 03:03:58 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Here's a trick that some good FCs do:
Decentralize the command structure
You have an FC for maneuvering and scouting. This person job is to find you a fight and get you into the best position to fight it. You have an FC for target calling. This person's job is simple; choose the best targets to win the fight. Have multiple Target callers in case one of them gets shot down. You have an EWar/Logi FC. Their job is to perform their specialty to direct support to friendly firepower where needed.
By keeping everything separate, you make it so that the enemy fleet has a hard time "scattering" the hostile fleet. The tradeoff is that it does take practice and trust in the judgement of others.
please according to this guy you can't even find enough "leaders" for a single back up
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
9898
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Posted - 2016.05.14 03:07:48 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Here's a trick that some good FCs do:
Decentralize the command structure
You have an FC for maneuvering and scouting. This person job is to find you a fight and get you into the best position to fight it. You have an FC for target calling. This person's job is simple; choose the best targets to win the fight. Have multiple Target callers in case one of them gets shot down. You have an EWar/Logi FC. Their job is to perform their specialty to direct support to friendly firepower where needed.
By keeping everything separate, you make it so that the enemy fleet has a hard time "scattering" the hostile fleet. The tradeoff is that it does take practice and trust in the judgement of others. please according to this guy you can't even find enough "leaders" for a single back up Sounds like a personal problem then.
Sometimes the best solution is to give up control rather than concentrate it.
How did you Veterans start?
"Learn how things work. The intricacies, interactions, and hard limits... knowing these things will grant you far more power in the long run."
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Lugh Crow-Slave
2528
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Posted - 2016.05.14 03:11:52 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Here's a trick that some good FCs do:
Decentralize the command structure
You have an FC for maneuvering and scouting. This person job is to find you a fight and get you into the best position to fight it. You have an FC for target calling. This person's job is simple; choose the best targets to win the fight. Have multiple Target callers in case one of them gets shot down. You have an EWar/Logi FC. Their job is to perform their specialty to direct support to friendly firepower where needed.
By keeping everything separate, you make it so that the enemy fleet has a hard time "scattering" the hostile fleet. The tradeoff is that it does take practice and trust in the judgement of others. please according to this guy you can't even find enough "leaders" for a single back up Sounds like a personal problem then. Sometimes the best solution is to give up control rather than concentrate it.
particularly with logistics i refuse to fly in a cap chain if we have to talk over the main FC
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Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
5
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Posted - 2016.05.14 03:13:09 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Glitch Online wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:soooo
what is to stop me from swapping FCs and wing commanders as new ships get called primary?
WAIT
i figured this out it is actually a stealth nerf HS ganking thread
want to get your freighter through just logg in all your alts into shuttles and fly through with it I've eddited my original post several times... you may want to look at it again. well thats just awful you need to move commanders around now based on who needs be warp the group and you said nothing about freighters also why do you think ppl don't FC from logistics
Not sure if i understood your "commander" statement, but here goes an answer. You set up your commanders and who is under them ahead of time, if done right you have no need to move them Mid-Battle.
You are right, i said nothing with regards to Freighters, because i've made it clear that if you want to use, say... 100 Shuttles to gain immunity to any dmg, then go for it. (see... repeating my self again)
Its not a matter of FCing from Logistic ship. with the resistance bonus, Fleet Commanders would put their logistic in Wing Commander possitions to gain the bonus. This could lead to a stale-mate where 2 fleets meet and neither can kill each other because Logistic is holding and keeping every one alive. |
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Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2016.05.14 03:15:11 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Here's a trick that some good FCs do:
Decentralize the command structure
You have an FC for maneuvering and scouting. This person job is to find you a fight and get you into the best position to fight it. You have an FC for target calling. This person's job is simple; choose the best targets to win the fight. Have multiple Target callers in case one of them gets shot down. You have an EWar/Logi FC. Their job is to perform their specialty to direct support to friendly firepower where needed.
By keeping everything separate, you make it so that the enemy fleet has a hard time "scattering" the hostile fleet. The tradeoff is that it does take practice and trust in the judgement of others. please according to this guy you can't even find enough "leaders" for a single back up Sounds like a personal problem then. Sometimes the best solution is to give up control rather than concentrate it. particularly with logistics i refuse to fly in a cap chain if we have to talk over the main FC
Last i checked, this post isn't about lack of FC in game. You also need Reading Comprehension skills by the looks of it. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
2529
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Posted - 2016.05.14 03:23:09 -
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Glitch Online wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Glitch Online wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:soooo
what is to stop me from swapping FCs and wing commanders as new ships get called primary?
WAIT
i figured this out it is actually a stealth nerf HS ganking thread
want to get your freighter through just logg in all your alts into shuttles and fly through with it I've eddited my original post several times... you may want to look at it again. well thats just awful you need to move commanders around now based on who needs be warp the group and you said nothing about freighters also why do you think ppl don't FC from logistics Not sure if i understood your "commander" statement, but here goes an answer. You set up your commanders and who is under them ahead of time, if done right you have no need to move them Mid-Battle. You are right, i said nothing with regards to Freighters, because i've made it clear that if you want to use, say... 100 Shuttles to gain immunity to any dmg, then go for it. (see... repeating my self again) Its not a matter of FCing from Logistic ship. with the resistance bonus, Fleet Commanders would put their logistic in Wing Commander possitions to gain the bonus. This could lead to a stale-mate where 2 fleets meet and neither can kill each other because Logistic is holding and keeping every one alive.
so now i can completely negate any damage done to HS freighters killing that gameplay
and you have an issue with indestructible logi but not a titan that can just sit their with a cyno open letting new shuttles be constantly bridged in while he just fires off DDs
as for the commander part
the slots in the fleet layout that relay boosts and preform group warps are squad commander
wing commander
fleet commander
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Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2016.05.14 03:35:24 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Glitch Online wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Glitch Online wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:soooo
what is to stop me from swapping FCs and wing commanders as new ships get called primary?
WAIT
i figured this out it is actually a stealth nerf HS ganking thread
want to get your freighter through just logg in all your alts into shuttles and fly through with it I've eddited my original post several times... you may want to look at it again. well thats just awful you need to move commanders around now based on who needs be warp the group and you said nothing about freighters also why do you think ppl don't FC from logistics Not sure if i understood your "commander" statement, but here goes an answer. You set up your commanders and who is under them ahead of time, if done right you have no need to move them Mid-Battle. You are right, i said nothing with regards to Freighters, because i've made it clear that if you want to use, say... 100 Shuttles to gain immunity to any dmg, then go for it. (see... repeating my self again) Its not a matter of FCing from Logistic ship. with the resistance bonus, Fleet Commanders would put their logistic in Wing Commander possitions to gain the bonus. This could lead to a stale-mate where 2 fleets meet and neither can kill each other because Logistic is holding and keeping every one alive. so now i can completely negate any damage done to HS freighters killing that gameplay and you have an issue with indestructible logi but not a titan that can just sit their with a cyno open letting new shuttles be constantly bridged in while he just fires off DDs as for the commander part the slots in the fleet layout that relay boosts and preform group warps are squad commander wing commander fleet commander
Freighters - I've answered this before, not with freighters in mind. But my answer applies.
Titan - if you see a titan, with a cyno, shuttles pouring thru, and you sit there just waiting to be DD, then its your problem. I shouldn't have to tell you how to deal with shuttles or how to warp away.
Command Positions - ok?
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Lugh Crow-Slave
2531
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Posted - 2016.05.14 04:00:11 -
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You just said you were fine with using freighters that way
And ashy time you come across a titan odds are they will be using a similar tactic to the one described
If something can be exploited eve players will do so to its full potential
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Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
5
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Posted - 2016.05.14 05:18:43 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:You just said you were fine with using freighters that way
And ashy time you come across a titan odds are they will be using a similar tactic to the one described
If something can be exploited eve players will do so to its full potential
Titan/shuttle Fleet.. yes sounds very Exploitable. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
2532
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Posted - 2016.05.14 05:52:58 -
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You do understand tree would be more to it then that right? You would have similar fleet comps it's just all the titans would show up with legions of disposable ships as well
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Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2016.05.14 05:56:48 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:You do understand tree would be more to it then that right? You would have similar fleet comps it's just all the titans would show up with legions of disposable ships as well
Yes.. i understand. If you read one of the previous posts, i make a reference to this. Again, Reading Comprehension IS your friend. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
2533
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Posted - 2016.05.14 10:11:46 -
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Not comprehending and not bothering to read five pages of people finding issues or irrelevance with your plan followed by you going"nuh uh" are two differant things
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Kieron VonDeux
220
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Posted - 2016.05.14 12:49:30 -
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Maybe we should have a thread to discuss the "need" of this new ship role that CCP proposed due to a general issue the CSM brought up before we get showered, or sprinkled, with individual ideas.
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Glitch Online
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Silent Infinity
5
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Posted - 2016.05.14 15:36:11 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Not comprehending and not bothering to read five pages of people finding issues or irrelevance with your plan followed by you going"nuh uh" are two differant things
If you choose to remain ignorant about the replies posted on a Forum Post, that is your choice. Just as I choose to not repeat my self to indulge your need for instant gratification.
I am looking for constructive criticism about the topic, not rants about how reading is hard work. |
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