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Calivess Avada
Nightlight Manufacturing
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Posted - 2016.05.11 10:19:17 -
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Salutations
I've been primarily concerned with Industry, Research, and Planetary Interaction. But, as I've been building ships and browsing the ship tree, I've discovered a fondness for those Logistics ships.
Now, I'm relatively inexperienced when it comes to combat flying (a combination of crafting obsession and general cowardice). But, at a glance those Logistics ships look like they're intended to repair other ships out in space. Am I correct in that?
If that's the case, then are Logistic pilots in demand at all? Obviously I just sort of build/sell things in my own little private corporation, but would there be circumstances where a Logistics pilot would be valued in a fleet? Or has PvP evolved to the point where Logistics ships have little-to-no impact?
Any feedback, information, or advice in this area would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
15623
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Posted - 2016.05.11 10:43:19 -
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everyone loves a good logibro , everyone.
logi V is a valuable skill
Better the Devil you know.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
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Posted - 2016.05.11 12:53:57 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:everyone loves a good logibro , everyone.
logi V is a valuable skill
This.
Ive recruited a few guys who want to only do logi and think they might not be accepted, as said everyone loves a logibro send that app 
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Calivess Avada
Nightlight Manufacturing
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Posted - 2016.05.11 13:02:41 -
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Well, fantastic!
This gives me a new hobby outside of manufacturing. Thank you.
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Francis Raven
ExDominion
Evictus.
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Posted - 2016.05.11 13:04:24 -
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One thing I would recommend is that you chose to work with Shield or Armor transfers, and focus on those first.
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Calivess Avada
Nightlight Manufacturing
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Posted - 2016.05.11 14:02:27 -
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Francis Raven wrote:One thing I would recommend is that you chose to work with Shield or Armor transfers, and focus on those first.
Do you mean pick one and specialize? Or do you mean do both concurrently?
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Echo Mande
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Posted - 2016.05.11 14:02:47 -
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Calivess Avada wrote:Well, fantastic!
This gives me a new hobby outside of manufacturing. Thank you.
If you want inspiration you could go look at some of Rooks & Kings' youtube videos (called Clarion Call IIRC) for inspiration. They are getting a bit dated (carriers with remote reps for instance) but good watching.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
FETID
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Posted - 2016.05.11 14:32:43 -
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Calivess Avada wrote:Francis Raven wrote:One thing I would recommend is that you chose to work with Shield or Armor transfers, and focus on those first.
Do you mean pick one and specialize? Or do you mean do both concurrently?
Think guardian is the most common so armor reps you should go for first
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2016.05.11 14:51:32 -
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99% of the PvP pilots want to deal out damage.
Pilots that want to fly Logi are rare, but EVERYBODY LIKES THEM.
Many corps will even pay for your ship, or cover the difference from insurance payout. |
Raging Bull Unchained
Einheit X-6
454
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Posted - 2016.05.11 15:04:56 -
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Keep in mind that if you use a logi in a small gang and you end up beeing the very single logi-ship:
Bring a local rep with you :P |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.05.11 19:13:57 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:everyone loves a good logibro , everyone.
Except Killmails, obvs
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.05.11 19:30:56 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:everyone loves a good logibro , everyone.
Except Killmails, obvs
Yes exept killmails.
Better the Devil you know.
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Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining
The Bastion
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Posted - 2016.05.11 22:03:27 -
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If you want to ease yourself into logistics, you could also run them in incursions. They need logi as well, and you make quite a bit of isk running them. Most incursion groups seem to be shield based, so a basi or scimi would be the way to go if you want to try that route out. |
Calivess Avada
Nightlight Manufacturing
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Posted - 2016.05.12 01:38:07 -
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I keep seeing people say "reps". Forgive me, I'm not too savvy with a lot of the shorthand yet. Could someone explain what a "rep" is, and what it means in the context of this thread please?
And thanks for all the feedback. I'm really enjoying all the information that you're providing.
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
2401
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Posted - 2016.05.12 01:42:33 -
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Logi IMO is one of the most fun challenging tasks in EVE. It is somewhat a thankless job as you will usually not have many killmails to show for it. but it is super satisfying when you land that saving rep on a fleet mate. |
Khamalaa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.05.12 06:14:06 -
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Calivess Avada wrote:Francis Raven wrote:One thing I would recommend is that you chose to work with Shield or Armor transfers, and focus on those first.
Do you mean pick one and specialize? Or do you mean do both concurrently?
He meant that Capacitor Logistics is another ball game compared to Shield/Armor logi. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.05.12 06:40:34 -
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Calivess Avada wrote:I keep seeing people say "reps". Forgive me, I'm not too savvy with a lot of the shorthand yet. Could someone explain what a "rep" is, and what it means in the context of this thread please?
And thanks for all the feedback. I'm really enjoying all the information that you're providing. Reps is simply short for 'repairs'.
'Giving reps' = remote repairing another player with your logi ship.
'Broadcast for reps' = when a player in a fleet signals that he needs repairs, via an in-game command that makes his request visible to all fleet members (and logibros in particular) in the 'fleet broadcast history' window
Have fun, logi is awesome!
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Calivess Avada
Nightlight Manufacturing
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Posted - 2016.05.16 00:05:59 -
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Excellent, thank you!
As I'm unfamiliar with how the modules function, I've been getting a bit of practice in by repairing my drones while hitting NPC complexes. I could see this being pretty hectic, to be honest. Thankfully, I don't think many ships fly away as fast as drones do, so running a logistics cruiser might be easier with players.
#FingersCrossed
I have a thing about making sure I can manufacture a ship (and the modules) before I actually fly them. So, I look forward to seeing what these things can do.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.16 00:34:26 -
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Calivess Avada wrote:Excellent, thank you!
As I'm unfamiliar with how the modules function, I've been getting a bit of practice in by repairing my drones while hitting NPC complexes. I could see this being pretty hectic, to be honest. Thankfully, I don't think many ships fly away as fast as drones do, so running a logistics cruiser might be easier with players.
#FingersCrossed
I have a thing about making sure I can manufacture a ship (and the modules) before I actually fly them. So, I look forward to seeing what these things can do.
Most ship will indeed not fly away from your rep range as fast as drones and dedicated logistic ships also have the benefit of range bonus to prevent this partially. Past that, it's kind of a team game where you will try your best to keep your fleet mate at range while your fleet should have enough brain power to understand your range is not unlimited and that they might be on their own if they fly far away. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions
O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1214
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Posted - 2016.05.16 01:28:52 -
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Calivess Avada wrote:I keep seeing people say "reps". Forgive me, I'm not too savvy with a lot of the shorthand yet. Could someone explain what a "rep" is, and what it means in the context of this thread please?
And thanks for all the feedback. I'm really enjoying all the information that you're providing.
That's just everything you can repair during a fight. Capacitor transfers, remote armor repair modules, remote shield transfers and remote hull transfers but don't ever use the latter during a fight, only after.
There is nothing really wrong with flying what you like but a general rule of thumb is that an Osprey is better suited for shield fleet and capacitor support, an Augruor better for fleet armor and capacitor.
A scythe for solo shield logi and only shield and an Exequorer for solo armor repair and only armor.
All 4 of them have a recently new bonus for logistic drones, which you can put in the drone-bay of those and an Osprey can have 4x light armor bots (repair drones) or even 4x hull repair drones.
This is usually up to the needs of the many and you just keep an eye or better both eyes on your watchlist, so you'll know when which repair modules is necessary or you get requests via the fleet menu.
Some prefer armor over everything, I like shields more but it up to you. In the end you might up training all of them anyways.
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Kitty Bear
Harbingers of Chaos Inc
Violence of Action.
1545
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Posted - 2016.05.16 09:48:41 -
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Don't forget the new(ish) Logistic Frigates.
Training for the Cruisers makes training the Frigate skill a sensible choice, as it doubles up the SP investment in Remote skills
plus it gives you access to another group of potential spacefriends (small gang roams with frigates and destroyers) |
Echo Mande
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Posted - 2016.05.18 14:03:09 -
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I think skills-wise the Auguror and Osprey are probably your best starting points. They're cheap, cheerful and a pair or small group of them can probably remote rep a group of buffer-tanked PVE ships (cruisers, BCs, lowskill BS) doing level 3 or 4 missions.
The fits below require the following skills, in addition to prerequisites the skills needed to fit the modules.
Hull Upgrades 3
Mechanic 3
Remote Armor Repair Systems 4
Repair Systems 2
Capacitor Emission Systems 4
CPU Management 4
Energy Grid Upgrades 2
Power Grid Management 4
Shield Emission System 4
Amarr Cruiser 4
Caldari Cruiser 4
The augoror fit has a decent tank against EM heavy fire, the Osprey is decent against all other fire. Operation is as with their T2 cousins, the logi group orbits a DPS ship, sets up a cap chain and reps the fleet as needed/called. With the cap chain up the logi cruisers can run all modules fully cap stable.
[Augoror, lowskill RR]
Damage Control I
800mm Steel Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Armor Thermal Hardener I
Armor EM Hardener I
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Sensor Booster I
Sensor Booster I
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer
Medium 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Medium 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter
[Osprey, lowskill RR]
Damage Control I
Signal Amplifier I
Signal Amplifier I
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Large Shield Extender I
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Medium S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
Medium S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
Medium S95a Scoped Remote Shield Booster
Medium 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Medium 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter
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