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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.12.19 02:26:00 -
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iirc ps has a good track record of doing some reverse capatability. |
Mirima Thurander
Sarajevo Syndicate
True Reign
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Posted - 2011.12.19 02:29:00 -
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fuer0n wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Logan LaMort wrote:Dust will be getting graphic and gameplay updates in it's free expansions, exactly the same way EVE has for the last several years. When the PS4 comes out, if Dust is still going, then it's gonna get it's own Trinity.
After all for the last few years CCP have been making new graphic content/assets way more intensive than what the average PC can handle today and scaling them down for the EVE client, it's not hard to imagine them doing the same for Dust. Dust is a new type of title for both CCP and Sony; with some exciting future potential. I'd be very concerned if Sony was not working with CCP to ensure that the game would be able to take advantage of a new platform allegedly said to be ready before Dust 514's release date. But that is entirely speculation. i'm worried about their involvement with planetside 2 and where their loyalties lie.
planetside 2 or Dust sony still makes moneys why not from both?
I love the the smell of victory in the morning. It smells like... Blood, vomit and burning flesh.
I Like You. I'll Kill You Last. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.19 02:55:00 -
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If he really made Tabula Ralsa then that only affirms my calling of him an idiot. Considering he's suing the company that made it.
In other words he really didnt make it and just only put his name on it and that is highly irresponsible.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.12.19 03:06:00 -
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yumike wrote:
it's funny, i've been saying this for a year - PS4 was announced at E3 for next year (2012)
No, it wasn't.
Quote:It will likely be backwards compatible, but even if it is it isn't likely to last long.
There's a fair chance it will have selected backwards compatibility with PS3 titles, but I would fully expect it to be compatible with all PS1 titles since emulation on that front is a pretty easy thing to do. A PS2 emulation setup is possible as well. Considering Sony's recent efforts with releasing PS2 titles directly on the PlayStation Network, I would say there's a fair chance for it.
Quote:How many people continued playing ps1 games on the ps2? And the ps2's on the ps3?
A lot. Sony releases PS1 and PS2 games on the PlayStation Network and many people buy and play them. Furthermore, HD conversions of PS2 titles have sold very well.
Quote:Not to mention the FPS crowd typically has an attention span of at most 3 months..
Did you ever consider the fact that this is most likely the target reaction that many developers and publishers aim for? Console games typically have some closed end development and therefore a good amount of money is made off of sequels. Once fans of a game are shown the newer and shinier version of what is nearly the same game they're playing, of course they're going to lose some interest in the older version they've been playing for so long. Interest in an existing title remains as long as there is sufficient support and content to keep the community going. This is evidenced in just about every popular online multiplayer game. (Hint: You made a post on a forum for a game that demonstrates exactly this.)
Dust's longevity mainly depends on three things: 1.) Is it fun? 2.) Does it have a lot of unique content for players to interact with? 3.) Is that content actively supported? If CCP can nail those three things down, then they will have something special on their hands. Dust's growth, however, is certainly questionable due to it being limited to a single platform, but that is something I do not expect to last for a very long time. |
Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
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Posted - 2011.12.19 03:07:00 -
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Dust 514 for console was the worst idea CCP has EVER had and they have had many bad ideas.
CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Ai Shun
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.19 03:07:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:If he really made Tabula Ralsa then that only affirms my calling of him an idiot. Considering he's suing the company that made it.
Interesting viewpoint. Destination Games developed Tabula Rasa (With Richard Garriot as part of that). NCSoft was the publisher of Tabula Rasa. But Garriott was also employed by NCSoft. It is a murky point.
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Sir Substance
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2011.12.19 03:14:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Richard Garriott de Cayeux predicts the end of gaming consolesFrom Page 2: "I think we might get one more generation [of gaming consoles], might, but I think fundamentally they're doomed. I think fundamentally the power that you can carry with you in a portable is really swamping what we've thought of as a console."
He made similar comments to someone else a little while ago, but then proceeded to tell the guy that the future of gaming was in social media like facebook etc. and then try to pimp his new company harder then a $2 hooker.
Garriot is slightly bonkers and well past his use-by date, my friend. Take anything he says with a pinch of salt.
Ishtar Starfire: As a pure caldari pilot i feel that with the deployment of the new tier 3 battlecruisers you have given an unfair advantage to everyone except caldari pilots. an example would be like giving a fat kid a whole cake while the skinny kid has to watch and get nothing.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.19 03:16:00 -
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If he really was in charge of the entire game development he should have sued ALOT sooner like before the game came out if he was truely responsible individual.
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Selinate
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Posted - 2011.12.19 04:34:00 -
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yumike wrote:
Not to mention the FPS crowd typically has an attention span of at most 3 months..
No they don't. Planetside players stuck with that game for a LONG time. The same will happen with Dust if it's a well made game. Just because players buy a new FPS when it comes out doesn't mean they have an "attention span of 3 months", or that the game they used to play dies.... |
Sir Substance
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2011.12.19 04:56:00 -
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Selinate wrote:yumike wrote:
Not to mention the FPS crowd typically has an attention span of at most 3 months..
No they don't. Planetside players stuck with that game for a LONG time. The same will happen with Dust if it's a well made game. Just because players buy a new FPS when it comes out doesn't mean they have an "attention span of 3 months", or that the game they used to play dies....
At the risk of drawing the ire of the consoletards, planetside was a PC game.
The tradition of small holdouts keeping games alive well past their due date is a strong one on PC. I played tribes vengeance for two years after most people would have said it was well dead. There were a grand total of ~30 people playing in Australia at the time.
I've never yet seen that happen on console, mostly because servers for consoles are hosted by the game manufacturer, and when players drop below a critical threshold they shut them down, see halo 1 and 2.
Ishtar Starfire: As a pure caldari pilot i feel that with the deployment of the new tier 3 battlecruisers you have given an unfair advantage to everyone except caldari pilots. an example would be like giving a fat kid a whole cake while the skinny kid has to watch and get nothing.
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J Kunjeh
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Posted - 2011.12.19 05:06:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:yumike wrote:How many people continued playing ps1 games on the ps2? And the ps2's on the ps3? A lot. Sony releases PS1 and PS2 games on the PlayStation Network and many people buy and play them. Furthermore, HD conversions of PS2 titles have sold very well.
Count me in as one of them. Originally I purchased the PS3 that had backwards compatibility with PS1 and PS2 games, but it was emulated. I wanted the real deal, so I traded my brand new PS3 for an older model that was purchased when they were still putting the Emotion Engine chips from the PS2 into them...no PS2 emulation for me! So yeah, some of us DO play the older games on our PS3's still.
"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)"
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Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2011.12.19 05:06:00 -
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fuer0n wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Logan LaMort wrote:Dust will be getting graphic and gameplay updates in it's free expansions, exactly the same way EVE has for the last several years. When the PS4 comes out, if Dust is still going, then it's gonna get it's own Trinity.
After all for the last few years CCP have been making new graphic content/assets way more intensive than what the average PC can handle today and scaling them down for the EVE client, it's not hard to imagine them doing the same for Dust. Dust is a new type of title for both CCP and Sony; with some exciting future potential. I'd be very concerned if Sony was not working with CCP to ensure that the game would be able to take advantage of a new platform allegedly said to be ready before Dust 514's release date. But that is entirely speculation. i'm worried about their involvement with planetside 2 and where their loyalties lie.
It's hard to say, after all SOE president John Smedley is an EVE online player and EVE was one of the major influences for PS2.
And according to Matt Higby...
Quote:...but it goes to the core of PlanetSide 2GÇÖs remit, and spells out its vital difference from other claimants to the MMOFPS title, such as Dust 514. As creative director Matt Higby puts it, GÇ£WeGÇÖre not just building a shooter, weGÇÖre building a world.GÇ¥ |
J Kunjeh
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Posted - 2011.12.19 05:08:00 -
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Sir Substance wrote:
I've never yet seen that happen on console, mostly because servers for consoles are hosted by the game manufacturer, and when players drop below a critical threshold they shut them down, see halo 1 and 2.
See Warhawk on the PS3...still going strong after all these years.
"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)"
(The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
1147
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Posted - 2011.12.19 05:15:00 -
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Sir Substance wrote:Selinate wrote:yumike wrote:
Not to mention the FPS crowd typically has an attention span of at most 3 months..
No they don't. Planetside players stuck with that game for a LONG time. The same will happen with Dust if it's a well made game. Just because players buy a new FPS when it comes out doesn't mean they have an "attention span of 3 months", or that the game they used to play dies.... At the risk of drawing the ire of the consoletards, planetside was a PC game. The tradition of small holdouts keeping games alive well past their due date is a strong one on PC. I played tribes vengeance for two years after most people would have said it was well dead. There were a grand total of ~30 people playing in Australia at the time. I've never yet seen that happen on console, mostly because servers for consoles are hosted by the game manufacturer, and when players drop below a critical threshold they shut them down, see halo 1 and 2.
I said it elsewhere but people were still playing Halo 2 online multiplayer from 2004 until 2010 when MS shut down the online services for original xbox games. It's a lot harder to find other instances of that because consoles have only had online gaming for in the last decade, and it wasn't until the 360 and PS3 that these online services for consoles really kicked off.
It's the same as Halo Reach, in my opinion a much better game than Halo 3, yet people are still playing Halo 3 multiplayer extensively and that's been out for a good few years now. Same with CoD, 4 is still being played online.
Give people a good multiplayer experience and it will be played to death, doesn't matter if it's on the console or PC, but eventually even these games run out of juice out of lack of support, a problem Dust won't have. I just hope they nail the multiplayer. |
Selinate
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Posted - 2011.12.19 05:19:00 -
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Sir Substance wrote:Selinate wrote:yumike wrote:
Not to mention the FPS crowd typically has an attention span of at most 3 months..
No they don't. Planetside players stuck with that game for a LONG time. The same will happen with Dust if it's a well made game. Just because players buy a new FPS when it comes out doesn't mean they have an "attention span of 3 months", or that the game they used to play dies.... At the risk of drawing the ire of the consoletards, planetside was a PC game. The tradition of small holdouts keeping games alive well past their due date is a strong one on PC. I played tribes vengeance for two years after most people would have said it was well dead. There were a grand total of ~30 people playing in Australia at the time. I've never yet seen that happen on console, mostly because servers for consoles are hosted by the game manufacturer, and when players drop below a critical threshold they shut them down, see halo 1 and 2.
Not all FPS's have games that only have servers hosted by the game maker.
Also, if a game like Planetside was made for the ps3, I guarantee the same effect would take place, the time played on the game would be just as long. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
647
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Posted - 2011.12.19 05:42:00 -
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There is nothing PC about the original Planet Side.
Why you ask?
If it says yes this would feel at home on a console then it failed the PC shooter test.
There is plenty of PC in the original Ghost Recon. Battlefields before bad companies and many others
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