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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2016.05.13 23:55:20 -
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Yeah, that needs to be removed from the game.
I am perfectly capable of reading the market window and determining what price I need to buy something at. Stop warning me because someone drops super cheap sell orders in lowsec systems half a dozen jumps away in order to lure the less aware out of highsec to be shot at, or sets stupidly low buy orders to manipulate the market average. This is, quite literally, the only time I ever see that particular warning, because I double check my numbers before clicking buy or sell.
Look at that, you already know where to find the solution to your problem. Just because it's not big as well as shiny on the sell tab doesn't mean it isn't there.
As far as the color of the total, that has nothing at all to do with market average. That is solely determined based on its impact on your wallet. Green is adding to your wallet, red is removing from your wallet.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Aaron Honk
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Posted - 2016.05.14 01:13:30 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:So now you want to get rid of a few decent ways to make quick isk scamming too?
No. I've never misread a price in four years. Just take the extra half a second to read.
Getting rid of what ? I didn't propose we get rid of anything. I said the regional average indicator could be bigger and eventually show a different color if you try to sell on the cheap.
Iain Cariaba wrote:Yeah, that needs to be removed from the game.
I propose you make your own idea thread and we can discuss it. Because you are able to read thing doesn't mean everyone can. With that argument we might as well never implement a colorblind mode because most can see well enough ?
My question again, what is the real reason why you don't want to see this implemented ? |

Sonya Corvinus
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Posted - 2016.05.14 02:00:44 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:Getting rid of what ? I didn't propose we get rid of anything. I said the regional average indicator could be bigger and eventually show a different color if you try to sell on the cheap.
My question still stands.
I honestly wonder what you're doing if you are misreading so many orders to ask for this. Pay attention! |

Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2016.05.14 02:50:48 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:My question again, what is the real reason why you don't want to see this implemented ? Because if you have half a brain and/or the ability to learn from your mistakes, then you don't need this. If you lack the previously stated requirements, you won't be playing this game long enough for this idea to matter. Either way....
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Aaron Honk
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Posted - 2016.05.14 03:25:09 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote: My question still stands.
I honestly wonder what you're doing if you are misreading so many orders to ask for this. Pay attention!
I don't missread "so many orders" what are you talking about ? It's not like I do a mistake every week? I can't even remember last time i did that
Iain Cariaba wrote:Aaron Honk wrote:My question again, what is the real reason why you don't want to see this implemented ? Because if you have half a brain and/or the ability to learn from your mistakes, then you don't need this. If you lack the previously stated requirements, you won't be playing this game long enough for this idea to matter. Either way....
Doesn't answer my question. You keep bringing brain issues like a broken record. If you have a brain you don't need a warning when you jump into lowsec, if you have a brain you don't need a warning when you click reset quickbar... I'm talking about improving EVE and you literally want to make it worst.
I play since 2005 I'm not sure if that's long enough for you tho |

Sonya Corvinus
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Posted - 2016.05.14 04:14:21 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:I don't missread "so many orders" what are you talking about ? It's not like I do a mistake every week? I can't even remember last time i did that
You sure? You're the one who started this thread simply because you couldn't read market orders. Remember that?
Why, again, is it so hard for you to simply re-read what you type? |

Aaron Honk
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Posted - 2016.05.14 04:45:33 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Aaron Honk wrote:I don't missread "so many orders" what are you talking about ? It's not like I do a mistake every week? I can't even remember last time i did that You sure? You're the one who started this thread simply because you couldn't read market orders. Remember that? Why, again, is it so hard for you to simply re-read what you type?
I reread every order I make. I even have the warning after each order pop up and I have to click yes or no to confirm the order. Managing as much orders as I do is not simple and sometimes some slip through the crack.
I even propose alternatives to my original proposition, we could for example add a line that state the price per unit you are selling, here is a picture of that idea https://i.imgur.com/NFmcSag.png |

Sonya Corvinus
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Posted - 2016.05.14 05:09:15 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:I reread every order I make. I even have the warning after each order pop up and I have to click yes or no to confirm the order. Managing as much orders as I do is not simple and sometimes some slip through the crack. I even propose alternatives to my original proposition, we could for example add a line that state the price per unit you are selling, here is a picture of that idea https://i.imgur.com/NFmcSag.png
Come on man.
I've played this game for four years and literally never done a market order incorrectly. Stop complaining because you're not capable of taking two seconds to read an order you're buying or placing. You do know how to read, yeah? |

Aaron Honk
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Posted - 2016.05.14 05:35:47 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote: Come on man.
I've played this game for four years and literally never done a market order incorrectly. Stop complaining because you're not capable of taking two seconds to read an order you're buying or placing. You do know how to read, yeah?
Is that all you can do personal attacks ? Obviously I can read, you never made a mistake well that's good for you. The fact you never made a mistake doesn't mean the UI could and sould not be improved. I am not the only one in the case I describe, if I was maybe I would be the only one making this thread ?
I'm saying the system could be better. All you want is make it worst, and there is no reason for it. I already proposed 3 ideas to improve things and you have proposed 0. |

Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
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Posted - 2016.05.14 05:43:23 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:Is that all you can do personal attacks ? Obviously I can read, you never made a mistake well that's good for you. The fact you never made a mistake doesn't mean the UI could and sould not be improved. I am not the only one in the case I describe, if I was maybe I would be the only one making this thread ?
I'm saying the system could be better. All you want is make it worst, and there is no reason for it. I already proposed 3 ideas to improve things and you have proposed 0.
Sorry, what personal attacks? Your entire idea is centered around people who don't read when they buy things, and it limits emergent gameplay.
Again, come on main. Stop trolling. |

Aaron Honk
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Posted - 2016.05.14 05:47:21 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:
Sorry, what personal attacks? Your entire idea is centered around people who don't read when they buy things, and it limits emergent gameplay.
Again, come on main. Stop trolling.
I am not trolling, you and the other guy seems to imply that I am mentally challenged for making a market mistake, I have a brain and I double check my orders.
example of a personal attack for that other dude >
Quote:Because if you have half a brain and/or the ability to learn from your mistakes, then you don't need this.
And I'm not trolling, I am 100% serious on the ideas I proposed. I don't think it would stop emergent gmaeplay because there are no market strategy influencing the amount of money you can earn from people doing those mistakes, this is just pure luck. |

Sonya Corvinus
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Posted - 2016.05.14 06:05:06 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:I am not trolling, you and the other guy seems to imply that I am mentally challenged for making a market mistake, I have a brain and I double check my orders.
If you double checked your orders you would never have the problem you brought up in this thread.
Honest question, why are you saying you have a hard time doing that? Other than trolling, how is that hard? That's a legitimate question. Look forward to your answer.
And don't reference what other people say in replies to me please. I speak for myself. |

Aaron Honk
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Posted - 2016.05.14 06:14:09 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Aaron Honk wrote:I am not trolling, you and the other guy seems to imply that I am mentally challenged for making a market mistake, I have a brain and I double check my orders. If you double checked your orders you would never have the problem you brought up in this thread. Honest question, why are you saying you have a hard time doing that? Other than trolling, how is that hard? That's a legitimate question. Look forward to your answer. And don't reference what other people say in replies to me please. I speak for myself.
but i DO double check my orders, as I said I even have the warning enabled for each order. For the other question, my last proposition would help a lot placing orders, the one where you see the amount you get for each item |

Sonya Corvinus
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Posted - 2016.05.14 06:21:52 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:but i DO double check my orders, as I said I even have the warning enabled for each order. For the other question, my last proposition would help a lot placing orders, the one where you see the amount you get for each item
Right....If you did double check your orders, you wouldn't mistype any of them. Don't ask for game changes in a sandbox to make up for something you messed up. I've been placing orders for four years and never messed up once. You know...read before you click OK.
Best of luck mate. I'm not wasting any more time here. |

Aaron Honk
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Posted - 2016.05.14 06:25:18 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Aaron Honk wrote:but i DO double check my orders, as I said I even have the warning enabled for each order. For the other question, my last proposition would help a lot placing orders, the one where you see the amount you get for each item Right....If you did double check your orders, you wouldn't mistype any of them. Don't ask for game changes in a sandbox to make up for something you messed up. I've been placing orders for four years and never messed up once. You know...read before you click OK. Best of luck mate. I'm not wasting any more time here.
Other have, again, I am not a special snowflake, this feature improvement would help a lot more people than only me. The fact you are good doesn't mean things should be improved. You probably never reset your quickbar by accident either, yet a warning was added to that system.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
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Posted - 2016.05.14 15:26:07 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:Other have, again, I am not a special snowflake, this feature improvement would help a lot more people than only me. The fact you are good doesn't mean things should not be improved. You probably never reset your quickbar by accident either, yet a warning was added to that system.
I'm in favor of not having the warning we have already, not having green/yellow/red to stop accidentally shooting people in HS, having no local in sov null, among other things. The game has been dumbed down enough already. You don't have to be 'good' to read something before buying/selling
Sorry, but still no. |

Aaron Honk
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Posted - 2016.05.14 16:58:00 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Aaron Honk wrote:Other have, again, I am not a special snowflake, this feature improvement would help a lot more people than only me. The fact you are good doesn't mean things should not be improved. You probably never reset your quickbar by accident either, yet a warning was added to that system. I'm in favor of not having the warning we have already, not having green/yellow/red to stop accidentally shooting people in HS, having no local in sov null, among other things. The game has been dumbed down enough already. You don't have to be 'good' to read something before buying/selling Sorry, but still no.
This is apparently not the way dev are choosing to develop the game, and it's for the best in my opinion. Change is hard, but you don't have to be scared about it. This warning will not impact your gameplay in any way if you are good enough to never make mistakes. |

Sonya Corvinus
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Posted - 2016.05.14 17:39:22 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:This is apparently not the way dev are choosing to develop the game, and it's for the best in my opinion. Change is hard, but you don't have to be scared about it. This warning will not impact your gameplay in any way if you are good enough to never make mistakes.
Change is hard, so don't be scared when you have to change the way you're thinking. Get the hint with the responses you've gotten :) |

Aaron Honk
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Posted - 2016.05.14 17:44:14 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Aaron Honk wrote:This is apparently not the way dev are choosing to develop the game, and it's for the best in my opinion. Change is hard, but you don't have to be scared about it. This warning will not impact your gameplay in any way if you are good enough to never make mistakes. Change is hard, so don't be scared when you have to change the way you're thinking. Get the hint with the responses you've gotten :)
I already changed the way I though. Before I was not using the warning after each order setup. Also before I was setting up big stacks and now I split item by group of 5 or 10. |
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