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Sybylle
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Posted - 2003.12.17 09:08:00 -
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I'm not a corp thief, nor pirate.
I don't belong to a big corp, and damn...That was an excellent addition! This feature helps alot in recruiting, trading and relationships with other players.
Thumbs Up!!!
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(O.o)
(> <)=Oveur (proof)
"Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |
drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:33:00 -
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As a CEO, I find this information particularly relevant and useful.
It is a bit *too* easy to access though.
I think you should probably have good standing with the other guys faction before they will let you access their records, etc.
And for the dude whining... calm down.
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redi
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:43:00 -
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perfect i love it.... please add the other chars on the account too. also hook the rest of the info that was available on chaos to the espionage or intel officer skill so that some people can even see who hates and likes a certain person.
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HavokTBP: lieing about kills... noobs don't count. |
W1rlW1nd
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Posted - 2003.12.17 12:06:00 -
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I'm in as small a corp as can be, and I love this change. it's not just helpful- it is downright hilarious at times. someone just tried to join a friends corp claiming they had '5 mil skillpoints' but he could see the character had been created 4 days ago-- lmao!
love it-
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.12.17 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: Shock on 17/12/2003 12:34:49
I don't think it should be commonly available, but it's an extremely usefull tool against scammers and thieves.
I think in this form it will be a little too usefull against pirates and secret alliances for instance.
A good alternative would be to give this feature to the agents.
Grant some agents the ability to check your background, standing etc.
The level of the agent and thus the amount of money you are willing to pay, effects the time you can go back and the number of standings you can get from the agent.
This will result in this option only being used if it's worth it and people doing agentmissions having another way to make money on the side.
So no longer will you check everyones background and standings who jumps into a system to check for pirates, or sell you stuff to check for hidden connections, or just out of curiosity
But only if you want to hire somebody, want to make an important deal or promote somebody to a responsible job.
An example:
A level 1 agent can check back 1 month of history and 10 standings. These standings can be selected by specific corps, specific players, the 10 largest corps having a standing with him etc. They cost then something like 50k and 10k
A level 2 agent can check back 6 months of history, and 50 standings both costing something like 250k and 50k.
A level 3 agent can check back his entire hisory, and all his standings, but they cost 2.5M and 500k.
The last one may sound like an whole lot of money, but don't forget, it's meant for corps wanting to promote a member to a high position or something, not just out of curiosity. Also somebody did a lot of missions for it, and when something costs as much like this, he can ask more profit and people will have more demand for the lvl1 and lvl2 checks.
Besides the lvl1 and 2 agenst will be enough to filter out most alt scammers.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.12.18 19:23:00 -
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I Love the Employeement History Feature! Although I was surprised to see most of my members that are new were previously in Jericho Faction? 
LOL.
Merry Christmas!
Crice-Carebear at Heart! I love Jade. 
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2003.12.18 19:34:00 -
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I love this feature. What should not be shown is the date for your first NPC corp. That date is equal to the date you begun playing and traning. This can be used easely to find out how hard a opponent is.
Ahh a BS pilote mining in 0.3. Leme have a check, aah he have played 1,5 mnt. Ill kill him.
Or ohh sh!t he have played since betam, damn ill think ill let this one go for now and come back when i havr trained some more.
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Lady Beeblebrox
Teddybears movies
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Madcap Magician
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Posted - 2003.12.18 19:51:00 -
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Just out of curiosity . . .
My employment history shows two corps I appliedto and didn't join . Is this meant to be that way? It's cool to me, just wondering . . .
Good times will always be remembered. Sleep well, old friends. |
Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2003.12.18 20:01:00 -
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Since i'm a quote unquote freelancer, i pretty much changed my corp name whenever i felt like it.so my corperate history is huge. 
Got Banana? |
toaster
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Posted - 2003.12.18 21:08:00 -
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Last post on this subject for me:
This game is truly full of chicken ****s. Come on, now you want a full background history on some1 just to do business? This is ridiculous. I can see some reasoning in a employment history for interviewing purposes... but just to buy or trade with some1? OMG. Can we ask for any more guarantees that we can never lose money or be scammed? As much as all of you may snivel about, "I like to know who I'm interviewing...", you have once again made the game that much more mundane.
I'm in a small corp and I love this feature. We have not been scammed in the past, but we are careful. I don't see why anyone else would not want this info shown? Unless there is something to hide. Scammers and thieves will find new tactics, but will have to create alts to do so which rocks. :) Just like real life now, have to establish a pattern of trustworthiness to be trusted. Ironic, no?
Game has enough bugs and crapo than to have to worry about some scammer or corp-theif fruitcake taking all your hard earned stuff.
this change is applauded.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.12.18 21:12:00 -
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i must admit, i like this part of the patch. it certainly will tell who is an ass or not..
or a Tush
/hides
sorrysorrysorryreallyicouldn'thelpit!
I like the Resume lots, by the way. It's quite realiztic, actually; in a place where CONCORD knows and rules all official records of every kind; any system that allows you to join a corp, leave a corp, and twiddle with standings, is surely aware of where you are and where you've been.
I understand your dislike of all things Ashcroftian, but the mechanics of the game need it and its freedoms are not adversely affected by it.
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.12.18 21:16:00 -
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Wow... I can totally accept that most of you big corp, massive bank acct ppl would like this..
Mercy Killer
T0R
Stop. Please realize you are advocating MORE crap to go to agents for. Stop the madness!! 
You apply for a job, you show up in a freakin' BATTLESHIP. I can see that Concord rates you at 5.6 and Sanshas say you are a -10 and Jove thing you're a measly 3 and .... you say i can't find out that you, your unique CONCORD id and big honkin' battleship spent 3 months as a hired gun protecting a mining company in a combat zone?
Sorry. That is the eve equivalent of "a matter of public record." You join a corp, you apply for a job, a job with BIG WEAPONS, a basic background check is so assumed it doesn't even need to be drawn out, it's just THERE.
And the alt-asshats still are untouchable, so don't worry your pretty little pirate carebear head over it.
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Sally
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Posted - 2003.12.18 21:21:00 -
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Hmm...
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.12.18 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 18/12/2003 21:42:03
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Hmm...
what, no Shears? And whatever happened to the Finn, anyway?
edit: might i suggest you tell anyone at a toll gate that if they can say "minxy trickster" 5 times fast they can pass without paying. You'll be rich(er) 
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Galavet
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Posted - 2003.12.18 21:45:00 -
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The new employment history is great. Tho it came about one day to late for Reikoku. Would not have let someone in that came straight from skillz corp. The good thing is he only got our basic pvp mods and did not know about our other stations in the area.
Was a good play Awia and Skillz or maybe it was just Awia by himself, dunno & don't care.
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Anderi Bourdieu
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Posted - 2003.12.18 21:52:00 -
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I like that this information is available, but it should be voluntarily given.
So, where are the stories about revealed spies?
Anyone?
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11/17/04
Are Formal Contracts in yet?
Divisional Wallets?
Taxes?
BP lockdown? |
Kane Jacobs
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Posted - 2003.12.18 21:59:00 -
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Hmm...
This makes me wanna check your record at ones !!! What is she hiding?? 
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2003.12.18 22:09:00 -
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Or was it the couple of weeks you spent at Greasy Lisa's Call-out Massage Service ;)
-HAHAHA nice one, Jade.
Seriously, as a corporate facilitator this is a most welcome new tool. AS for a RL comparison, access to tax records, and (in the states) Social Security background checks enable prospective employers to see this very same information. Not to mention that it is a staple of any job application I have ever seen.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.19 00:12:00 -
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I know hun, will be really embarrassing for all those people in the habit of swapping to alt-corps to take advantage of the war declaration system ...
Or was it the couple of weeks you spent at Greasy Lisa's Call-out Massage Service ;)
/whistles absently and slips out of the thread.......
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.12.19 00:57:00 -
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The employment history is a GREAT feature. Especially to weed out those leeching corp jumping fools.
Posting for Numbnutz |
Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2003.12.19 01:51:00 -
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Mercy Killer,
The problem you're running into, is one that is deeply rooted in human nature. It deals with rights, privlleges[sp?], & freedoms. Some of these are so seldom of use to most people that they are more than willing to give them up, in return for protection from those who might abuse them.
The issue at hand is privacy. And while i find disturbing the display of my resume to anyone who chooses to simply right-click & read; I doubt you'll find enough support among the masses to have this reversed. In my opinion it takes some of the risk out of the game, & is another step towards turning Tranquility into another "Trammel" debacle such as occured with Ultima Online. I haven't corp-hopped much, so it doesn't affect me personally a.t.m., but I'm not so short sighted to believe that it might not effect me in the future. Addtiionally it will definately affect the gameplay of eve.
The majority of people, however will be unaffected. A vocal minority will benefit from it, & a silent minority will be hurt by it. Just as in real life, this priveledge of privacy will probably not return to us, & it will not be the last one to be taken away.
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Jump Drive Operation / Rank 5 / SP: 1280000 of 1280000
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.19 02:07:00 -
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Mercy Killer,
The problem you're running into, is one that is deeply rooted in human nature. It deals with rights, privlleges[sp?], & freedoms. Some of these are so seldom of use to most people that they are more than willing to give them up, in return for protection from those who might abuse them.
The issue at hand is privacy. And while i find disturbing the display of my resume to anyone who chooses to simply right-click & read; I doubt you'll find enough support among the masses to have this reversed. In my opinion it takes some of the risk out of the game, & is another step towards turning Tranquility into another "Trammel" debacle such as occured with Ultima Online. I haven't corp-hopped much, so it doesn't affect me personally a.t.m., but I'm not so short sighted to believe that it might not effect me in the future. Addtiionally it will definately affect the gameplay of eve.
The majority of people, however will be unaffected. A vocal minority will benefit from it, & a silent minority will be hurt by it. Just as in real life, this priveledge of privacy will probably not return to us, & it will not be the last one to be taken away.
Pretty much the same here. My 'employment history' is better than some of the people that post in here loving this idea. 2 corps, starter and my corp. So I hardly have anything to hide.
But it's just not right that anyone can simply look and see any corps I worked for. And despite what some people may say, that information is not easily obtained even today unless given voluntarily. It's written on the resume I gave people while interviewing. And those people really have no real method of validating the information beyond obtaining my permission to do a background check.
If people want to feel comforted by looking at that information, fine. I feel they should have to work to obtain that information.
Or I should have the ability to mask that information by my choice.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.12.19 06:32:00 -
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If people want to feel comforted by looking at that information, fine. I feel they should have to work to obtain that information.
Or I should have the ability to mask that information by my choice.
Nope.
Veruna Caseti
Ishukone |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.19 07:41:00 -
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I should be available through a specific role in the corporation linked with those who can accept peoples applications into your corporation.
In other words, you can only see employment history at the application stage.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.19 15:36:00 -
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Quote:
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If people want to feel comforted by looking at that information, fine. I feel they should have to work to obtain that information.
Or I should have the ability to mask that information by my choice.
Nope.
Why?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.12.19 15:40:00 -
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I still got an question:
How do you know the history of characters that just had been created to scam?
or???
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Recruiter
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Posted - 2003.12.19 16:08:00 -
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Soooo,
Let's say i create an alt, park it in a newb corp for a month, train it some skills, buy it a nice frig and apply at my target corp ?
No way to check prevent this is there ?
And we can hardly refuse any new player out of hand since it's a possible alt thief.
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BoBoZoBo
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Posted - 2003.12.19 16:36:00 -
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Agreed, great new feature.
And just like any kind of credit / character check, you only have to worry about it if your an as*hole and plan on continuing to screw people over.
Any questions can easily be reconciled by sending messages to past employers to verify character integrity.
Good job guys
Sorry your ****ed Mercy, stop being part of the above mentioned crowd |
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.19 16:50:00 -
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Agreed, great new feature.
And just like any kind of credit / character check, you only have to worry about it if your an as*hole and plan on continuing to screw people over.
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Cool. Then where's my ability to refuse to cooperate, just like any kind of credit / character check? Seriously, this is another feature that serves no real purpose.
- The worst 'offenders' use alts or 2nd accounts and are untouchable.
- The 'best' offenders, the ones who'd continue using the character allowing for retribution, are the ones that are affected.
- It's annoying at best for people that believe in some rights of privacy.
Given those attributes, it's almost guaranteed to bite someone on the ass in the future. Hard.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Rohann
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Posted - 2003.12.19 17:59:00 -
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Well for those of us that have shady pasts and are trying to get rid of it, it has basically ruined any chance of trying to get into a corp. Now the only chance I have of trying to be in a decent corp is to either make one myself or be in a pirate corp again. Neither of which I want to do anymore. So I will either be solo for the rest of my playtime or just quit cuz the game is getting ridiculous. It seems if you arent in a mega corp or have a corp with atleast 15 active players then you wont get far.
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