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Asimov Andies
Gallente
Red Blade Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.24 19:59:00 -
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I am a little upset. I have had a real crappy day and to top it off I just got my first speeding ticket. it was in a 65 mph zone on a freeway where everyone was traveling 75-80. I was going 85 mph. I admit I was speeding, but the cop gave me a ticket saying I was going 90 mph. I don't know what to do, this is my first ticket and I just feel like the ticket is going to haunt me forever. any advice?
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.24 20:14:00 -
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Its just a ticket. If its your first dont worry, wont really affect anything - just go with the crowd from now on 
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.02.24 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Asimov Andies
any advice?
Pay the fine?
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Posted - 2007.02.24 20:32:00 -
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Consider yourself lucky.
I'm 28 and have never been given a speeding ticket. Both times I got pulled over for speeding, I got arrested instead.
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Asimov Andies
Gallente
Red Blade Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.24 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Asimov Andies
any advice?
Pay the fine?
I got that much, but, correct me if I am wrong, 90 MPH is wreckless endangerment, as opposed to 85 which is just speeding. and if that is correct, then that is a bit of a difference in fines, and what it looks like on your record.
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Major Shake
Gallente
Lunar-Base
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Posted - 2007.02.24 20:52:00 -
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Challenge the ticket! if you just accept the fine you will end up with a nasty mark on your record
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Asimov Andies
Gallente
Red Blade Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.24 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Major Shake
Challenge the ticket! if you just accept the fine you will end up with a nasty mark on your record
No idea how to challenge the ticket. not to mention, I was speeding, so why would I challege the ticket?
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Kaia Kua
Macabre Votum
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.02.24 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Asimov Andies
Originally by: Major Shake
Challenge the ticket! if you just accept the fine you will end up with a nasty mark on your record
No idea how to challenge the ticket. not to mention, I was speeding, so why would I challenge the ticket?
Go to your local police station, if the officer was using a speed gun then they can check the gun for its efficiency. If the policeman was just following at the same speed then that really isn't evidence :P
but depends what country your in i suppose.
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
Serenity Fallen
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Posted - 2007.02.24 21:40:00 -
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Most radar guns have an accuracy +/- 10km/h... about 5 mph. If you can call into question the speed gun's accuracy, you may automatically get the speed on your ticket reduced by 5mph... which is enough to get you out of the reckless endangerment range.
If the cop was following you, there is no evidence to present in court when the ticket is challenged. Most likely you will get off.
Again, depends on the judge, but you should be able to get off. Depends on state/province and country, though.
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Asimov Andies
Gallente
Red Blade Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.24 21:43:00 -
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California, San Diego. It would be nice if I could atleast get it down to what I was actually driving. I have no problems with the fact that I got a ticket, because I was infact speeding, but reckless endangerment... I was not going 90 mph.
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Bosie
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.02.24 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Asimov Andies
any advice?
Don't speed.
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Asimov Andies
Gallente
Red Blade Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.24 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Bosie
Originally by: Asimov Andies
any advice?
Don't speed.
where were you earlier this morning. would have been nice to hear it then.
Especially with me running 15 minutes late to work.
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darklegionca
Caldari
Bluetech Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.24 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Asimov Andies
Originally by: Bosie
Originally by: Asimov Andies
any advice?
Don't speed.
where were you earlier this morning. would have been nice to hear it then.
Especially with me running 15 minutes late to work.
teh dark thinks you need to buy a new alarm clock then if you were late just pay the fine and slow down there are allready to many retards on the road where i live thats why i dont drive
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Possesive
Caldari
GALAXIAN
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.02.24 22:56:00 -
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I have one speeding fine. The circumstances surrounding the fine annoyed me very much, leaving a 30 mph zone (residential area) going into national speed limit, 60 mph, and the council had decided to put a speed camera facing out toward the 60 zone catching drivers as they increased speed to match the new limit, this gave them around 30 metres of unmarked road where they could catch drivers doing, and I kid you not, between 31 - 35 mph giving grounds for a ú60 fine.
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Warhounds
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Posted - 2007.02.24 23:02:00 -
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2 things: 1, spedometers can be up to 5 mph off, 2, so can speed guns.
you may have just been going 87 and his gun picked you up at 90, however beyond that 90 is not reckless in a 75 zome afaik, though cally laws may be different.
but i've only ever gotten 1 speeding ticket, so that's my fullest knowledge
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Mitch Manus
Regeneration
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Posted - 2007.02.24 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Asimov Andies
the cop gave me a ticket saying I was going 90 mph.
*raises toast* and heres to the next one 
Its fun going through speed camera's at 100 on a rs125, cause they cant get your number plate cause its only on the back 
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Bosie
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.02.24 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Asimov Andies
where were you earlier this morning. would have been nice to hear it then.
Especially with me running 15 minutes late to work.
Leave the house on time in the future. For ****'s sake grow a pair and be responsible for your actions or inactions.
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which means more to me than any other.
That word is ENGLAND."
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Asimov Andies
Gallente
Red Blade Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.25 00:36:00 -
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notice I did state that I was speeding and I did say that I was running late for work, never tried to blame it on anything else, I know I am responsible for the result. My main question which I think has been answered, is if there was anyway to contest the ticket and get it lowered to 85 mph.
So in saying that I thank all those who responded with a helpful statement. And I agree I should not be speeding, and normally I don't. Thank you again.
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Samirol
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.25 00:51:00 -
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guys, its only a speeding ticket, dont be ****s to him about it.
**** happens mate, contest it and hope the cop doesnt show up, then you can get off. Just dont accept the fine, always challenge your speeding tickets.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol
guys, its only a speeding ticket, dont be ****s to him about it.
**** happens mate, contest it and hope the cop doesnt show up, then you can get off. Just dont accept the fine, always challenge your speeding tickets.
Not true in Britain, incidentally. When you get a ticket, you go to Magistrates Court (where you get a chance to challenge it). Challenging and failing results in an increased fine
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Gungankllr
Caldari
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:05:00 -
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It has a lot to do with where you live.
In California, if a Police Officer does not appear in court, the ticket is usually thrown out unless they provide an afadavit stating all the pertinent information to the judge prior to the hearing.
Most states allow you to attend some form of traffic school, and upon successful completion the ticket is wiped from your record.
If they were using a Radar gun, then there's quite a few ways to fight it, including the following:
1. Has the operator attended a DOT approved "radar gun" course?
2. When was the radar unit last sent back to the manufacturer for calibration?
3. Was the unit tuned prior to its use that day?
4. Did the officer paint you with radar from the front, rear, or side?
5. If he just paced you using his vehicle, when was the last time his vehicle speedometer and odometer were calibrated to ensure accuracy?
6. How much experience does he have as a traffic officer?
7. If you were not arrested, and it's only an infraction, why are you sweating your first and only speeding ticket?
Bottom line: If you're going to fight it, then look into the above stuff.
My advice: You don't sound experienced enough with law to go into court and fight it without an attorney. After hiring an attorney, you'll likely spend ten to fifteen times more money than if you had just gone in and paid the ticket and been done with it.
Only way I would go fight it is if you had evidence showing there was some sort of misconduct or mistake on the part of the officer, in this case there seems not to be.
Hope this helped.
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ZeeWolf
Savage Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:45:00 -
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Should have out run them like they do on TV.
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RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.02.25 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Bosie
Originally by: Asimov Andies
any advice?
Don't speed.
Just like the OP, I live in Calfornia. "Don't speed". I don't understand this sentence. Hmm "Don't speed"... You mean... Umm, that I actually have to drive UNDER the speed limit!? You mean, less than 65 mph? LOL. Yeah, that ain't happening.
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Bosie
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.02.25 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: RedFall
Just like the OP, I live in Calfornia. "Don't speed". I don't understand this sentence. Hmm "Don't speed"... You mean... Umm, that I actually have to drive UNDER the speed limit!? You mean, less than 65 mph? LOL. Yeah, that ain't happening.
That is why it's called a limit. Break it and face a fine if caught.
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which means more to me than any other.
That word is ENGLAND."
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Lyzander
Caldari
BIG Advanced Assault
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.25 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
5. If he just paced you using his vehicle, when was the last time his vehicle speedometer and odometer were calibrated to ensure accuracy?
Thought I'd mention to the OP - it's very possible that your speedometer was incorrectly calibrated you were in fact going 90 mph.
Also, in many states/provinces there are often "ex-police officer" groups that challenge tickets/fines/etc. on your behalf; often they work on a "if we don't win, you don't pay" basis too.
Food for thought.
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Frezik
Celtic Anarchy
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.25 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Bosie
Originally by: Asimov Andies
any advice?
Don't speed.
The safest speed is whatever 85% of the rest of the traffic is doing (PDF link), regardless of the posted limit. If traffic is doing 85, it's just as dangerous for you to be doing 70 as it is 100.
Current speed limits are set by people with too much financial incentive to make the limits unreasonably low.
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Zezman
Murder of Crows
E N I G M A
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Posted - 2007.02.25 06:08:00 -
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It sounds like you were going slightly faster than the rest of the crowd on the road that day. That's your biggest mistake. Most people speed, and technically, you need to keep up, but that doesn't mean passing everyone. Next time, pace the driver ahead and keep up with traffic regardless of speed, the average traffic, not the fastest car going along. Then you won't be targeted for a ticket.
Since you got a ticket, you should always go to court, since he gives you a time and a date, go there and tell them that you are going to plead not guilty, then a second date will be set for the actual trial. Go there, and if the officer doesn't show up, guess what, you win by default. If he does in fact show up, then follow the advice of the rest of the posts here, especially about calibrations and dot certificates. Give your best arguments and ask for evidence of that kind. If the officer cannot produce the evidence, ask the judge to rule in your favor because the officer cannot prove you were going over the speed limit. Under no circumstance admit to guilt at any point. If you fight it, fight to win all the way, not fight to reduce the penalty, but to dismiss the charges altogether.
Remember, if the officer doesn't show, then you win automatically, shut up and leave the courtroom a winner.
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RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.02.25 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bosie
Originally by: RedFall
Just like the OP, I live in Calfornia. "Don't speed". I don't understand this sentence. Hmm "Don't speed"... You mean... Umm, that I actually have to drive UNDER the speed limit!? You mean, less than 65 mph? LOL. Yeah, that ain't happening.
That is why it's called a limit. Break it and face a fine if caught.
The purpose of speed limits has less to do with safety and concern for drivers than it has to do with increasing government revenue. The American interstate highway system is designed for drivers to drive at 80 mph. Yet here in California, the speed limit is 65 mph and in some states it's as low as 50 mph. The only reason that the limit is that low is for the state's to fill their coffers.
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Kehmor
Caldari
PAK
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Posted - 2007.02.25 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Kehmor on 25/02/2007 10:57:27
ooops  only really applies to britain
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Bosie
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.02.25 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: RedFall
My point is this: As an honest person, should you obey a law that is dishonest?
As an honest person you should obey the law and use the laws of your country to challenge it. Where I live the speed limits on major roads are faster, but if we were to change it to make more economical sense we would drop them to around 60mph I hear. As to setting the limit to 50mph to fill their coffers, I would be interested to hear how that limit performs that.
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That word is ENGLAND."
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