So why exactly are you surprised that ppl don't seem to think you are aware of how the things you're complaining about work?

I don't know, honestly. I keep telling myself not to expect anyone on the internet to have an IQ above 60, but I just never learn my lesson.

speaking of that and to put it in your words, first of all a little mindset when roaming:

T1 frig squishy
T1 frig slow
T1 frig no match for carrier

and now a To-Do list:

hey, look, fighters!
you in warp in less than 3secs
profit & no fucks given

and don't come up with "but my FC told me blah". When you tell FC theres a carrier and he lets you not warp away then he is just one of those brainless idiots and you have no right at all to whine about nerfing carriers, just because your FC is a dickhead

Just to confirm carriers can near insta lock now with just one high slot. About 2.6s on a frigate and 1.5s on cruisers. Out running the fighters is virtually impossible as they clear 10k m/s with ease.

Not complaining carriers are broken currently as it is too early to tell but they are very strong for the price.

Yes but he cannot point you. The only way he can kill you fast is: his fighters are near you for whatever reason.

If you land 100km away with a condor you have "plenty" of time to run

hey, look, fighters!
you in warp in less than 3secs
profit & no fucks given

Just to confirm carriers can near insta lock now with just one high slot. About 2.6s on a frigate and 1.5s on cruisers.

Why do you think I'm not aware of the very things I'm complaining about?

Would you complain that your Condor got wrecked by a Vindicator if you maneuvered yourself into it's deathsphere of 90% webs?
That's why I think you're not aware of these things. Because you made the appearance to be of simple mind.

You do realize that in your opinion the carrier locked you in 5secs? Cant understand how the **** u died but idc either.

A carrier SHOULD be able to solo a small gang

"Just don't go near it" and "leave it alone" are bad arguments when it comes to balance discussion.
Even if you have a ****** band aid workaround doesn't mean the ship is balanced.

No he shouldnt, carriers are cheap as ****. They are less then a proper pirate bs + fit and way more powerfull, im fine with them being strong, but im not fine with them being that strong for 1.5 billion isk - thats nothing.

True, but the OP wants a nerf because he got killed by a CARRIER. ALONE. IN A T1 FRIG. WITH BAD FITTING.

All we suggest here is: for holy FU**ING sake as soon as you see a carrier and you're ALONE IN A T1 FRIG WITH BAD FITTING, just gtfo.

Come again with a fleet, adapt your tactics and kill him.

And yes, a fully fit carrier after insurance comes to about 1.5bil or so, they are cheap as ****. As are basicely all regular capitals.

That's an incredibly optimistic take these days. Even without a full fighter bay you're looking at a 700m fit (T1 capital modules with T2 subcap modules) on a 1.4bil ship. Capital fitting costs have gone way up with new capital modules.

bit easier to just drop a dread on a combat carrier than suffer battleship losses from fighters thus capitals to kill capitals is a bit more efficient, who are you calling an f1 monkey?

Maybe......MAYBE a ****-frig which everyone can fly after 2 weeks isn't supposed to tackle and hold a ship in place which one can fly after YEARS... before citadel those carriers were just helpless, now you can't solo them anymore which is good.

oh and besides: who said you need another capital? Oh...forget it. I do not expect a null/lowsec F1 monkey to work out something new

But I think it used to be one f the selliong points of this game that the whloe catching up to the vets is not necessary because even a noob in a frigate could hero tackle a carrier and make a change. If this is no longer the case, it should be noted.

Scorpions and Geddons. ECM the fighters. Neuter the carrier.

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Profit?

I woud nerf all subcaps to make it sense... carriers are fine now and 1 carrier shoud kill any sub cap fleets up to 20 people... that's basic logic and makes perfect sense... that was just ******* stupid, when ever some1 seen a carier in ds was like let's kill it and if there was a fleet of 5 cruser the carrier died... comn that's just stupid.. glory for the carriers and stfu all u kill whores out there who ar fl-ng t1 frigs just to get on kb.... whic needs to be fixed also.... God job cpp this I the right path...

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