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Lubaduba
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Posted - 2007.02.25 00:57:00 -
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Mmm. so frigs have the 1mn, cruisers the 10mn, BS the 100 mn..........are the battlecruisers the slowboats of EvE or what? my tempest flies faster than my nano fitted battlecruiser. that just cant be right. WTB 50 mn microwarpdrive!
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Imechal Ravpeim
International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:02:00 -
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Battlecruisers are heavy cruisers.
Frigs weigh 1mill kg Cruisers 10mill kg Battleships 100mill kg
Battlecruisers are something like 13 or 14 mill... So they only get a small boost from AB/MWDs
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Lubaduba
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:04:00 -
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thats what i mean - i cant believe that in a hightech world like eve the ingeneers didnt invent a microwarpdrive that coudl fasten BCs like all the other type of ships
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Thranduil Saralonde
Amarr Takigama Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:20:00 -
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its most likely one of those things that have skipped thru till now
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N Solarz
Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Imechal Ravpeim
Battlecruisers are something like 13 or 14 mill... So they only get a small boost from AB/MWDs
my hurricane begs to differ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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NeoNeTiC
SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:53:00 -
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10MN MWDs are enough on a BC. Try to fit named Inertial Stabilizers, works like a charm. 
Nano-BS going faster than nano-BCs are another story though. Smaller ships under same fitting conditions should be faster/more agile imho. Let's see what CCP comes up with. 
And asking to give BCs modules which render cruisers obsolete in every term is just wrong, sorry.
NeoNeTiC
EVE-Speed-Labs 
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PredatorPT
New Dawn Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.25 01:58:00 -
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How about 1000mn microwarp drives while we're at it? Nano-avatars FTW!!
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.25 02:20:00 -
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i want a 5MN mwd for my sabre so i can go 5 times as fast ______________________ go away |

Nymos
Fimbulvintr
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Posted - 2007.02.25 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: mazzilliu i want a 5MN mwd for my sabre so i can go 5 times as fast
meh dictors are overpowered tanking and dps monsters, everybody knows that lol :) --
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Pellaeon DuGalle
Caldari Deep Black Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.25 02:24:00 -
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Edited by: Pellaeon DuGalle on 25/02/2007 02:20:52 The Devs stated earlier that they didn't want to implement sub-classes of AB or MWD. They want to avoid people sticking 5mn mwds on inties and have them go at silly speeds and other such nonsense. Or even using 5mn ABs on inties and having an effect similar to a 1mn MWD.
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Shugo Kazuma
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Posted - 2007.02.25 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Pellaeon DuGalle Edited by: Pellaeon DuGalle on 25/02/2007 02:20:52 The Devs stated earlier that they didn't want to implement sub-classes of AB or MWD. They want to avoid people sticking 5mn mwds on inties and have them go at silly speeds and other such nonsense. Or even using 5mn ABs on inties and having an effect similar to a 1mn MWD.
All they have to do is give said modules some INSANE fitting requirements and then do what they do with gang mods and strip miners etc. Ie, something like 50% reduced fitting reqs when put on the appropriate ship type 
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Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.02.25 08:29:00 -
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A hurricane/cyclone has less mass than a moa... ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.02.25 08:54:00 -
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gisti and factional ABs and MWDs should fit the bill nickley
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Max Hardcase
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.25 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: Max Hardcase on 25/02/2007 09:03:11 Edited by: Max Hardcase on 25/02/2007 09:00:22 Not quite...they still give the baseline thrust boost thats used in the final speed calculations.
But for fairness's sake there should be 2mn and 15 mn boosters. Their problems are easily solved with the role bonus to fitting requirements. A second solution could be a thrust role bonus on the right sized booster class for BC's and Dessies. ( think 25% ish )
On the other hand I wouldnt mind some code to make it possible to only fit the "right" sized module to a ship, would mean they could make rigs with fewer required components for smaller ships.
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Reggie Stoneloader
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.25 09:27:00 -
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No, destroyers and battlecruisers are "in-between" ship classes, they should be awkward. If a battlecruiser was just a cruiser with more HP and weapon hardpoints, what good would a cruiser be? They should be slow and clumsy, like a battleship, but back cruiser-sized guns.
The fact that battleships aren't currently slow and clumsy is, in my opinion, an oversight that should be remedied.
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Akkarin Pagan
Minmatar Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.25 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Max Hardcase Edited by: Max Hardcase on 25/02/2007 09:03:11 Edited by: Max Hardcase on 25/02/2007 09:00:22 Not quite...they still give the baseline thrust boost thats used in the final speed calculations.
But for fairness's sake there should be 2mn and 15 mn boosters. Their problems are easily solved with the role bonus to fitting requirements. A second solution could be a thrust role bonus on the right sized booster class for BC's and Dessies. ( think 25% ish )
On the other hand I wouldnt mind some code to make it possible to only fit the "right" sized module to a ship, would mean they could make rigs with fewer required components for smaller ships.
You would then need to specify a lot of areas for that. My Cyclone runs a Large Shield Booster 2. Not a module that easily goes on a Cruiser (if you want to fit much else). Battlecruisers in naval terms, were ships that had BS type attributes (gun size or armour amount) but were a lot faster than Battleship class vessels. Many navies went down the more bigger guns route, and the Germans went down the more armour with Cruiser size guns route.
BC shouldn't replace Cruiser but compliment it, adding damage and tank but losing out on speed and agility. Pretty much as they do now.
Akkarin <3 - Immy
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Max Hardcase
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.25 11:50:00 -
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I'm all for choice but if the DEV's worries are such that we wont get decently effective boosters for Dessies and BC's ( acceleration is bad with the undersized boost amount) I'm not against that mechanism, and as I said, we can only hope for cruiser/frigate rigs. Presently I'm not going to stick a rig that requires 300 odd comps on a cruiser or smaller.
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Max Hardcase
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.25 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Reggie Stoneloader No, destroyers and battlecruisers are "in-between" ship classes, they should be awkward. If a battlecruiser was just a cruiser with more HP and weapon hardpoints, what good would a cruiser be? They should be slow and clumsy, like a battleship, but back cruiser-sized guns.
The fact that battleships aren't currently slow and clumsy is, in my opinion, an oversight that should be remedied.
I also think there should be more difference between BS <> cruisers + BC <> frigates and destroyers in moving between the battlefields ( warpspeed ).
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Malashek Vatrii
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.25 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: PredatorPT How about 1000mn microwarp drives while we're at it? Nano-avatars FTW!!
What the hell would that be used for.. ramming stations? * * * *
Moo.
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.25 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Malashek Vatrii
Originally by: PredatorPT How about 1000mn microwarp drives while we're at it? Nano-avatars FTW!!
What the hell would that be used for.. ramming stations?
The nano-moros would be a truely terrifying thing, let alone the damn carriers with officer nos, webs and scrams :D
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.02.25 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Reggie Stoneloader No, destroyers and battlecruisers are "in-between" ship classes, they should be awkward. If a battlecruiser was just a cruiser with more HP and weapon hardpoints, what good would a cruiser be? They should be slow and clumsy, like a battleship, but back cruiser-sized guns.
The fact that battleships aren't currently slow and clumsy is, in my opinion, an oversight that should be remedied.
Someone here doesn't fly Caldari.
I think I've seen a Moros turn faster than my raven.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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