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Ebz Czaikaa Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 0	Posted - 2016.05.18 19:37:24 - [1] - Quote This is what one of my toons is using currently. Super tanky, but still like 680dps. How can I improve on this or should I start from scratch? Thanks all! [Ishtar, TestIshtar] Damage Control II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer Armor Explosive Hardener II Drone Damage Amplifier II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Armor Repairer II Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II 50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Heavy Electron Blaster II Heavy Electron Blaster II Heavy Electron Blaster II Heavy Electron Blaster II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Valkyrie II x2 Gecko x2 Warrior II x1 Null M x1000 Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x800 Navy Cap Booster 800 x8 Caldari Navy Iron Charge M x1298
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1448	Posted - 2016.05.18 19:41:27 - [2] - Quote it's a stronger vexor so works under same principles. Though I would actually use pulse lasers if you can fit them Also 2 geckos+augmented ogre does more damage since ishtar get's bonuses to heavies
Ebz Czaikaa Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 0	Posted - 2016.05.18 19:46:17 - [3] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: Also 2 geckos+augmented ogre does more damage since ishtar get's bonuses to heavies Can only have 3 out with that setup and its more damage? Oo
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1448	Posted - 2016.05.18 22:00:40 - [4] - Quote the paper dps is lower but the ishtar tracking bonus to heavies makes it much superior to having the 2 med+light out
Arcturus Ursidae Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2016.05.19 02:33:18 - [5] - Quote I was actually going to suggest 180mm autos to take of some cap pressure. The fit is solid there are a couple of changes I might make though they are marginal incremental changes. I think you can fit a restrained microwarpdrive and you should do so. Even better if you did fit autos I think you can fit T2 which is now faster as well as having less cap penalty. I don't think the gecko cost is justified but that is just me. That Isk could get you T2 rigs or a faction mod like a navy web. Lows are solid, possibly an RAH over the explosive hardener depending the ships you expect to fight, could change a rig to explosive pump if required. From an overheating point of view things could be moved around a bit, reps on the ends.
Ebz Czaikaa Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 0	Posted - 2016.05.19 05:39:41 - [6] - Quote Arcturus Ursidae wrote: I was actually going to suggest 180mm autos to take of some cap pressure. The fit is solid there are a couple of changes I might make though they are marginal incremental changes. I think you can fit a restrained microwarpdrive and you should do so. Even better if you did fit autos I think you can fit T2 which is now faster as well as having less cap penalty. I don't think the gecko cost is justified but that is just me. That Isk could get you T2 rigs or a faction mod like a navy web. Lows are solid, possibly an RAH over the explosive hardener depending the ships you expect to fight, could change a rig to explosive pump if required. From an overheating point of view things could be moved around a bit, reps on the ends. Thanks for the input! This is what I put together after reading your post. [Ishtar_v2, Ishtar] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer Reactive Armor Hardener Drone Damage Amplifier II Warp Scrambler II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Stasis Webifier II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Warrior II x1 Valkyrie II x2 Gecko x2 Hail M x1000 Republic Fleet EMP M x1000 Republic Fleet Proton M x1000 Navy Cap Booster 800 x8
Switch Savage The Tuskers The Tuskers Co. 243	Posted - 2016.05.19 12:17:35 - [7] - Quote Reactive hardener on something with such a small armor buffer is generally bad, I can elaborate further if you would like but not got tons of time to get into it right this second. It generally boils down whether the fight is a 1v1 where you are taking only two damage types. In that case it is better but in nearly all other situations it is worse than a second eanm (especially using a ancil rep in combination). [Ishtar, Savage Ishtar] Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer,Nanite Repair Paste 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Electron Blaster II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Acolyte II x10 Hornet EC-300 x5 Praetor II x5 Infiltrator II x5 Ogre II x5 This is about as optimised as it gets and covers every eventuality. It gives you marginally less dps than an autocannon variant you posted (although they are a good option). The main difference being you get a medium and small neut which allows you to break some things you otherwise would be unable to and allows you to shake tackle if required. Never use x2 Gecko, x1 heavy on any 125 bandwidth drone ship ever. It is always an inferior combination of drones compared to x2 Gecko, x2 Mediums, x1 light regardless of the heavy drone tracking bonus. Can support that with the boring numbers if you would like to see. Meta the neuts if you want to run it in a totally clean pod but a 3% PG implant is cheap. Personally i would not run Geckos on a brawl Ishtar (too easy to lose it) but it comes down to personal preference. The above fit will cost you 300m on the nose.
Doctor Knuckles Black Fox Marauders 183	Posted - 2016.05.19 13:27:59 - [8] - Quote been away a while, isn't a full rack of neuts + nos a thing anymore?
Deen Wispa Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 743	Posted - 2016.05.19 16:33:07 - [9] - Quote This is as good of a fit as it gets if you're in lowsec. If you're in null, go with a MWD. It's a judgement call if you want to swap out a DDA w/ another EANM or hardener. Bling out the reppers as you deem fit. Avoid Geckos as the damage isn't that much higher compared to 5 heavies. Don't use a reactive hardener unless you know the incoming damage is one type. Not to mention it takes a good minute for the reactive hardener to reach it's peak If you got the isk, spend the money on 5 augmented ogres which is 35M ISK each. 742 DPS. Otherwise, it's 675 DPS with Ogres. Avoid guns in the highslot and just put 2 neuts and a small nos. The idea is that you're applying DPS to a primary and neuting and nosing another target. This helps reduce incoming dps because once the ship is cap-dry, you're probably hitting a third into your AAR. The less dps you can absorb, the greater your survivability. I don't think the guns are worth it because you also have to account for getting into range. Some people just aren't great at multi-tasking whereby you need to watch your repping, capacitor, if they're killing your drones, if you're in range with your guns,etc... Just let your drones do the damage and minimize the sensory overload [Ishtar, solo] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II 10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Nosferatu II Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Nanobot Accelerator II Ogre II x5 'Augmented' Ogre x5 Warrior IIx5 Valkyrie IIx5 Hornet EC-300 x5 High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Ebz Czaikaa Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 0	Posted - 2016.05.19 18:56:34 - [10] - Quote Thanks for all the feedback! Its always best to get a few sets of eyes on a fit so thank you. I'm gonna set a few of these up and come back with more questions if I have any.

W0lf Crendraven Welfcorp The Tuskers Co. 428	Posted - 2016.05.20 13:06:38 - [11] - Quote glorious triple rep ishtar reporting: [Ishtar, New Setup 2] Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Armor Explosive Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II 50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800 Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Ogre II x5 Bouncer II x5 Infiltrator II x5 Acolyte II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Nanite Repair Paste x300 Void S x1500 Null S x1500 Navy Cap Booster 800 x20
Lucy Callagan V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA 183	Posted - 2016.05.21 11:12:32 - [12] - Quote [Ishtar, geckshtar] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II True Sansha Power Diagnostic System Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler 50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Gecko x2 'Augmented' Hammerhead x2 'Augmented' Hobgoblin x1 Yes, this is a thing, but for armor i would rather recommend the 100mn vni Frugu.net a¦á_a¦¦a¦â
Ebz Czaikaa Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 0	Posted - 2016.05.22 00:01:00 - [13] - Quote Awesome guys. Its great to see all the different fits.
elitatwo Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance 1222	Posted - 2016.05.22 03:41:28 - [14] - Quote Doctor Knuckles wrote: been away a while, isn't a full rack of neuts + nos a thing anymore? If you want to fly a neut, fly a Curse. Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them correctly. Small gang and solo action in high, low and nullsec and w-space alike. We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
W0lf Crendraven Welfcorp The Tuskers Co. 430	Posted - 2016.05.22 04:45:35 - [15] - Quote elitatwo wrote: Doctor Knuckles wrote: been away a while, isn't a full rack of neuts + nos a thing anymore? If you want to fly a neut, fly a Curse. Its for the kiting fits (which are kinda dead now), a rack of 200s or light ions or similar isnt going to help you there, but 3 medium neuts mean tackle is not sticking on you. For the brawlling fits you dont have the cap sadly, if you use dual rep with a booster all your cap is going to your reps and you cant afford to neut.


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