its the fact that it incetivises 1 playstyle while giving a middle finger to every other playstyle

yeah it will sound soo much better coming from a goon

The most vocal about jump fatigue were against it, the most vocal about skynet carrier/supers were agaisnt it. The most vocal about any subject are always the ones who don;t want it because the others just won't bother posting about it.

The most vocal about jump fatigue were against it, the most vocal about skynet carrier/supers were agaisnt it. The most vocal about any subject are always the ones who don;t want it because the others just won't bother posting about it.

I'm glad they renamed them "recurring," that solved all problems raised in their main thread.

I saw that stealth change, but the implementation is still going to be daily...

CCP needs to make people want to log on. The only thing people should feel like they're missing out on by not logging in is the fun of whatever they choose to be in EVE. Not the carrot dangling from the stick.

Hm, i dunno... sooo... u shoot an npc and get a few extra skillpoints? Does this sum it up?


just as long as it doesn't turn into 'the bigger/more dangerous the npc, the more points u get' thingy, where big Alliance 0.0 players get an edge.

Actually for the new player this is a nice boost, for me personally, it won't make me log in/undock more often then i allready do, but thats because i'm a grumpy ol'vet and allready have millions of points

income, i earn my income out of game, the joys of eve i can offer my rl skills and be paid for it ingame, its a bit hypocritical for you to say that, if we login at the same time and both shoot rats and i dont login 1 day i lose that 10k sp, thats being penalised for not logging in.

income has no real merit if you dont log in, nobody really cares, the daily is designed to get people to login or they feel like they lose something

As a whole, we do not want this. Yes there are some who do, and many more who probably don't care one way or the other, but the VAST majority of those who chose to voice an oppinion stated in no uncertain terms that this is a bad idea and they did not want it implemented.

Not everyone hates it though, so you're suggesting the opinion of the people against it is somehow more important than the opinion of the people for it.

I give it two thumbs up!

It is "KIll 1 NPC ", what is the time needed? 5 minutes.

True, but it's hard to count those who can't be bothered to voice an opinion one way or another. Granted, this isn't a voting process, and I'm not trying to say that it is, but CCP has lately had a bad habit of ignoring its players. Do it too much and it'll come back to bite them as people reach their own thresholds of tolerance for what CCP is doing.

I don't like dailies, nor do I like skill trading, are either (or both) enough to get me to quit? Nah, I like too much of the rest of this game. Doesn't mean I won't complain about the bad ideas, in the (futile) hope that CCP will listen.

I do try to throw my support for good ideas too, not just complain about bad ones. Unfortunately its a lot easier to find the energy to complain than to support.

And for the multiple playstyles that spend weeks at a time in non-combat ships in deep space, as well as the ones that don't train combat at all?

If you use your RL income to get isk for the game, as you imply, spending a couple of hours working instead of playing will net you a skill injector, at least 100 K Sp instead of 10 K.
So you aren't losing anything by not logging and having your RL, actually you are gaining SP.
Simply you aren't playing.

They don't get 10.000 SP.
I normally use +5 implants, that is a bit more than 10K extra sp/day.
And the multiple play stiles that don't use implants or use implants that give secondary bonuses but a lower stat bonus? Who think about them?
You want the same options for everyone, so why we don get all the same stats, withotu characteristic enhancing implants? that would level the SP earning field.

how am i not losing something which is given as a free incentive?

if i get offered a free lunch if i turn up to a restaraunt one day and i dont do it then im losing a free lunch, yeah i can buy the lunch because i worked some overtime but then its not free is it?

how am i not losing something which is given as a free incentive?

if i get offered a free lunch if i turn up to a restaraunt one day and i dont do it then im losing a free lunch, yeah i can buy the lunch because i worked some overtime but then its not free is it?

You didn't lose a free launch. You never had it in the first place. Something that is offered to you is only yours if you actually take it.

lots of rp'ers who live in systems where the faction they support are the main rats wont shoot that rat because you know if fcks the immersion and story that the players created, which this sandbox game once promoted.

lets not forget traders and haulers who will also miss out on this, even though these people are active in the game.

the reason this daily was made was because they couldnt be bothered to think of something more structured and just wanted numbers raised asap, nothing more, please dont paint it like a well thought idea as its a totally terrible execution

So balance in the game now goes out the window? Got it.

What playstyle specifically are you talking about that prevents you from using +5 implants using game mechanics?

What game mechanic prohibit you logging every day and kill a NPC? None. It a choice you make.

What game mechanic stop you from using +5 implants and instead use other implants or none? None. It is a choice you make.

Plenty of PvPers don't use high end stat boosting implants because they have a good chance to lose them or because they prefer sets that give different bonuses at the expense of lower stats, so we have playstiles that prefer less SP for other bonuses.

What game balance go out of the window? The one where I have more than 100 million SP and a newbie has some thousand?
The one where a guy with a few hundred thousand SP can fly a T2 frigate as well as me?
You have a strange idea of where the game balance in EVE rest.

I also think that this is a bad idea. For multiple reasons.

1. Betrays one of CCP's core philosophies, that skills train at about the same rate regardless of activity level. I realize that as times go on games must change however CCP's niche is HTFU, which seems to be dissapearing.

2. Only aimed towards certain playstyles. For instance, I live in a wormhole. All I do is pvp. I haven't even had a farming ship in hole for the past 3 weeks after it got chased out. I regularly find content for my corp and shoot other wormholers but I will rarely be able to shoot rats every day if even once a week.

3. Opens doors to other possibilities. Some people may counter this argument by labelling it as the "slippery slope fallacy", however that fallacy involves large leaps in logic which cause it to be inaccurate. It is a scientifically proven psychological phenomenon that if, for instance, a person asks for a small favor, it is much more likely for them to do a second, larger thing which they wouldn't normally do if the first person asked them outright. I believe these daily opportunities may be the "small favor" before the bigger leap.

4. Casts CCP in a negative light. As new players come in, normally they'd see that it betrays the qualities characteristic of larger MMOs. However, now they will see that there are "daily quests" and attempt, ultimately to fail, to approach Eve as just another level up style MMO.