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Orun Erajen
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Posted - 2007.02.25 19:47:00 -
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This is addressed to pretty much anyone working in or alongside the in-game "alliance" (I use the term losely) of alliances working alongside Band of Brothers. I'm looking at you, ISS.
What are you thinking?
Their stated long-term goal is to "control all of non-secure space". That means that, all things being equal and everything going according to plan, every 0.0 region, constellation and system will be a sea of dots which are a single, uniform colour, and in the key, alongside that colour, it will read "Band of Brothers". No, it won't read "Mercenary Coalition", "Interstellar Starbase Syndicate" or anything else. It will read "Band of Brothers", because every other damn alliance out there will have no sovreignty.
What exactly did they promise you if you fought for them? Do you think they'll leave you alone once all of their enemies are gone? Are you fighting just so you get the rights to be wiped out last? Band of Brothers alliance have shown that they can't be trusted even with the sanctity of the game rules, what exactly makes you think they're going to honour any promise they make to you?
Band of Brothers aren't going to SHARE nullspace with you guys. They aren't going to just let you have your own little piece of land if they get their way. John Milton said "better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven", but I think he was implying that serving in Hell was pretty much the worst option of the lot.
Of course, if it was just Band of Brothers on their own against EVE, there'd be no chance. Heck, have you ever thought that it's alliances like yours that actually keep them standing? You're the ones giving all the help to them - I mean, they've run off and left LV bleeding in the dirt already. You think they'll help you if this newly formed coalition starts kicking some tail up in your regions?
Seriously, come on. EVE isn't World of Warcraft. It isn't a game for hyperactive little kiddies who like to blow stuff up. It's (MOSTLY) a game for patient, intellectual adults who like to blow stuff up impressively. Use your grey matter and work out that BoB are milking you dry and are going to toss you away when you aren't useful any longer.
But to the infamous Band of Brothers themselves - congratulations! You must have a very large number of carats in gold plated onto your tongues to be able to amass such a large army of willing dupes and stooges. Such persuasiveness impresses me. Now if only you could persuade Goonswarm to join you...
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Deimos Regal
Soar Angelic
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Posted - 2007.02.25 19:50:00 -
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Get out of our forum with your BoB nonsense. |
Xori Ruscuv
SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 25/02/2007 20:09:56
Alliance and corp flame board is that way --------->
It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
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Gank Master
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:17:00 -
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there cheating scum bags, who have actually damaged this game, and a lot of people have lost faith in the GM system etc. for what? greed and power.... for what they did, there allaince/corp should of been ripped up... as a lesson and let every single one of them cry about it.
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Intigo
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:32:00 -
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BoB are my heroes. Especially teqNo. <3 -- Piewat! Low SP piracy Now with more stories and small clips! |
Xade
Caldari K.T.P
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:04:00 -
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What BoB offer is the chance of revenge against the worst kind of eve players, the coalition will fall at the hands of BoB and its allies. The only uncertainty is when. The coalition has made enemies of some of the best pvp alliances and corporations in the game and they will never forget this.
Long live BoB and its allies the true warriors of EVE.
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Pepperami
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:23:00 -
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It's fairly simple, really.
Bandwagons annoy me.
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JabJabVVV
Total Mayhem.
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: JabJabVVV on 25/02/2007 22:05:15 If any one organisation or group of organisations control 0.0 then that would be very bad for the game - mining and ratting aren't fun and that is all there would be.
So there will always be war in 0.0 for as long as Eve exists in its current form, the day that stops is the day Eve dies as we know it.
Recognising that and you realise that the ultimate goal of every 0.0 territorial alliance is to either control 0.0, either directly or indirectly through some sort of coalition. BoB and the 'R*pe Train' (ugh) are not as different as you make out. If either side win outright then the consequences are the same. ----------- When I was a n00b, I spake as a n00b, I understood as a n00b, I thought as a n00b: but when I became pr0, I put away n00bish things. |
Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:21:00 -
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I lol when people act as if any entity in EVE could ever hope to control all of 0.0 space.
Form a 15-20k sized alliance, sure maybe, but of the ones right now? Uh-no. Even if BoB goes down, the coalition aren't going to stay friends forever, and when those rifts rip open, the real war begins.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Meriones
TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:41:00 -
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Looking at your history, its hard to imagine how you can possibly know what you are talking about. You have only been around for a little over a month so I will make this easier for you to understand young one.
ISS, like all alliances decides who they will or won't be allies with. ISS obviously has a reason to be allied with the great war machine that you know of called the "Band of Brothers". So what if BoB wishes to conquer all of eve. Just because they want to does not mean they will. BoB does not have to make any promises to their allies to get them to fight along side them.
"Band of Brothers aren't going to SHARE nullspace with you guys."
With seeing that you are new to the politics of eve and going on the assumption that you really cannot grasp the complications that arise when living in non-secure space at such a young age, BoB does share its space. The people that inhabit their space are free to leave if they wish. They do not have to stay in BoB's lands if they don't want to. However, if you do... As with any other alliance claiming space(D2, LV, Red Alliance, Goonswarm, aAa, etc), being able to live in their space comes with a price. Whether that price is a direct payment of isk, doing certain projects for them, helping with the task of defending the space with them, every alliance has some sort of restrictions and limitations when they open up the possibility of living in non-secure space to outsiders.
A certain respect must be givin to all alliances throughout history that have at some time been able to hold reign over any of the .0 regions. Whether you do not like their name, their policies, their banner.. You must understand the countless hours and determination of not only claiming a .0 region, but also trying to keep it and maintain your empire.
ISS like all the other alliances are making their own decisions and always working to complete their own goals. The propaganda that is coming from the coalition is very strong in this war and I just want to tell you to keep an open mind and not believe everything you hear. As for the most part, BoB has kept quiet and has not bothered to launch any kind of propaganda war unlike their enemies. Seeing this, it makes me think of a quote from the first pilot I ever engaged when I was young like you. "He who laughs last, laughs best."
I hope that your travels in eve bring you fortune and fame Orun. Always remember Orun, Not everyone that smiles at you is your friend. Good luck and fly safe.
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Gank Master
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:49:00 -
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OMFG, mods are sensoring this thread, and not making it know, i made a comment about recent events and "FANISH" with no trace...
Another sign of the GM;s still working in cohoots with bob
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.25 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Xade What BoB offer is the chance of revenge against the worst kind of eve players, the coalition will fall at the hands of BoB and its allies. The only uncertainty is when. The coalition has made enemies of some of the best pvp alliances and corporations in the game and they will never forget this.
Long live BoB and its allies the true warriors of EVE.
You are a:
a) idiot
b) BOB alt
c) BOB pet alt
d) all of the above
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Xade What BoB offer is the chance of revenge against the worst kind of eve players, the coalition will fall at the hands of BoB and its allies. The only uncertainty is when. The coalition has made enemies of some of the best pvp alliances and corporations in the game and they will never forget this.
Long live BoB and its allies the true warriors of EVE.
Quoted for LAFFO!
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:25:00 -
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hi jabjab.. I'm bored at work so I thought I would rip apart your post and show you where you are wrong.
Originally by: JabJabVVV
RA farmed bugged 8/10 plexes for months and months making hundreds of billions of isk off an exploit also the term 'logoffski' isn't imitation Russian for nothing.
Who Wasnt? Jus because the reds controlled all the complexes in the south (and still do), doesnt mean they were the only ones using the cap-ship 'exploit'.
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Goonswarm directly violated the EULA by encouraging their members to modify their client in order to show war targets in local (at the time this was not a feature of the game and was an exploit).
wrong. They asked CCP for permission before any modifications were done. And were granted it.
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D2 used a CCP owned but community run (supposedly neutral) fan site in order to collect IP's to identify BoB members.
Wasnt CCP owned.. somehow the domain was linked to a ccp employee but it WASNT an official eve-online forum. I personally feel that it was a genius tactic to find the spies (and it worked). Remember that spying is allowed according to the EULA, so if out-of-game spy tactics are allowed, then so should out-of-game anti-spying tactics.
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None of the big entities are any better behaved than the others and they cannot claim otherwise without hypocrisy.
This part is right. Everyone cheats.. its just a matter of who knows the most secrets. Right now BoB know how to cheat the best, so they have the most space.
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Founder Meo
Gallente Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: Founder Meo on 26/02/2007 01:24:27 even if ra/goond2 and any of the other alliances win itll turn into the battle of witchhead eg on the brink of the victory all the clans turned on each other.
as exploits in my opinion goon are the ones ruining the game not bob, the battle of jv1v was one example of dispicable node crashing tactics which are now legal, unfortunetly for anybody else nobody has the ability to orchestrate this on a large scale except goons.
as for being a bob ruling all 0.0 its extremely unlikely bob dont have the logistics to own all space they dont have the numbers, so it will be rented out of givin to there allies, yes it will be controlled by bob, but if bob wins they will control such a large state with so many satilite corportations that it would be infeasable for anybody to attack them, hell maybe if they do win and control most of the south CCP might even declare them there own empire and negate the 0.0 bonus i dont know. Regardless of the posturing and propagander going on, the bob pets will be fully behind bob for the sole reason of its bob space, and comfert breeds fimiliarity, and those bob pets feel as if thats space there home ... if bob ever did try to take it away from them they would be fighting the civil war to end all wars. but from my experiance bob is way to crafty to let that happen.
as for this war ... well we'll see how it goes if ra/goon win i'm thinking witchhead, if bob win well thats a little bit more unknown. ----------------------------------------------- -Who would bring a charge against God's elect ? it is God who justifies- Romans 8:33 |
Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Founder Meo as exploits in my opinion goon are the ones ruining the game not bob, the battle of jv1v was one example of dispicable node crashing tactics which are now legal, unfortunetly for anybody else nobody has the ability to orchestrate this on a large scale except goons.
I'm sorry but when exactly have you engaged in POS warfare against BoB and/or LV?
They brought a blob of 450... so goons brought a bigger blob.
Even if goons brought 20 pilots the node would have crashed. Get your facts straight.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami It's fairly simple, really.
Bandwagons annoy me.
Comming from someone who fought the 700 RA players with 10 000 players, I guess you're joking.
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Founder Meo
Gallente Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:45:00 -
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I'm simply saying the fact that they were allowed to captilize on the node crash was wrong. crashing the node shouldnt be an allowable tactic for ANYONE. [/url] |
Pepperami
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.26 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amerame
Originally by: Pepperami It's fairly simple, really.
Bandwagons annoy me.
Comming from someone who fought the 700 RA players with 10 000 players, I guess you're joking.
Actually coming from someone who fought 3000 RA/Friends with 700, then got bored as the blue grew and then eventually left to leave the blob to it.
... and who are you to say that; as someone who ran when it got tough and only came back when RA had the blob on their side?
See, It works both ways
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Luna Rossa Corporation The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.26 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Meriones Looking at your history, its hard to imagine how you can possibly know what you are talking about. You have only been around for a little over a month so I will make this easier for you to understand young one.
Had the wrong character selected.
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Kaganis Warmonkey
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Orun Erajen I'm looking at you, ISS.
OK, let me, an ISS grunt, give you a completely un-official answer from the trenches.
Pretty much everyone gunning for BoB have been trying to kill us since before BoB sided with us. Those that have attacked us since are more due to us being on LV's side than BoB's.
"The enemy of my enemy..." & all that.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:12:00 -
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Why isn't this thread locked yet?
The simple fact is that war needs multiple sides, and war is fun.
Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition. |
Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: Amerame
Originally by: Pepperami It's fairly simple, really.
Bandwagons annoy me.
Comming from someone who fought the 700 RA players with 10 000 players, I guess you're joking.
Actually coming from someone who fought 3000 RA/Friends with 700, then got bored as the blue grew and then eventually left to leave the blob to it.
... and who are you to say that; as someone who ran when it got tough and only came back when RA had the blob on their side?
See, It works both ways
Yeah I "ran" fighting the whole north alongside ~800 other TCF players. Don't try to paint yourself as some sort of hero always fighting against the odd, you had no problem trying to kill RA with over 10 to 1 odds. You'd do it again if you'd ever get a chance.
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Pepperami
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Amerame Yeah I "ran" fighting the whole north alongside ~800 other TCF players. Don't try to paint yourself as some sort of hero always fighting against the odd, you had no problem trying to kill RA with over 10 to 1 odds. You'd do it again if you'd ever get a chance.
lol, I didn't paint anyone anything. Shall we stop derailing the thread or is the concept of me being annoyed by bandwagons and massive blobs boring me still posing too much for you to comprehend without you posting to your default lv/v trolls?
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:56:00 -
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TEA OR CAKE OR DEATH TEA OR CAKE OR DEATH
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:10:00 -
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I'll answer your question with a question.
How would you rather fight? Totally outnumbered, slim chance of success, and no safety anywhere.... or warm, in the comfortable embrace of delusion that fifteen alliances and 20,000 pilots can hope to coordinate together for long enough to accomplish something that until this point in history, they've not had the guts to try?
I don't know about you, but to me 20,000 friends is 19,999 too many. Drowning in a sea of friendlies is not the way I would plan on failing.
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 07:08:00 -
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Does the phrase "go suck a lemon" mean anything to you? ___________________________________________________________________
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Kyo Makamoto
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Posted - 2007.02.26 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Orun Erajen This is addressed to pretty much anyone working in or alongside the in-game "alliance" (I use the term losely) of alliances working alongside Band of Brothers. I'm looking at you, ISS.
because the ISS BoD (board of directors) are BoD alts..
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Luna Rossa Corporation The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:27:00 -
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IM IN UR ALLIANCES, QUESTIONING UR MOTIVATIONS
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 26/02/2007 14:20:54
Originally by: Pepperami It's fairly simple, really.
Bandwagons annoy me.
Signed, besides that I think Redswarm+TCF are imperialistic too, they currently try to get control over the southeast, which I consider my home and I have no idea, where it stops. Redswarm is land-grabbing there and has removed me from my home region, BoB does it currently not.
So my personal view is/was pretty much: First stop ragoons. I see them still as enemies and I don't like Goonfleet, because they pi**ed me off with things like spies bringing V internal talk to the public forums, corp spies stealing carriers and pos, trying to offline poses, the whole 'fofofofo' stuff... I hope someone kicks them in the nuts.
Not speaking for Cult of War of course, this is my personal 'problem' _______ I came, I read, I lol'ed. |
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