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Orun Erajen
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Posted - 2007.02.25 19:47:00 -
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This is addressed to pretty much anyone working in or alongside the in-game "alliance" (I use the term losely) of alliances working alongside Band of Brothers. I'm looking at you, ISS.
What are you thinking?
Their stated long-term goal is to "control all of non-secure space". That means that, all things being equal and everything going according to plan, every 0.0 region, constellation and system will be a sea of dots which are a single, uniform colour, and in the key, alongside that colour, it will read "Band of Brothers". No, it won't read "Mercenary Coalition", "Interstellar Starbase Syndicate" or anything else. It will read "Band of Brothers", because every other damn alliance out there will have no sovreignty.
What exactly did they promise you if you fought for them? Do you think they'll leave you alone once all of their enemies are gone? Are you fighting just so you get the rights to be wiped out last? Band of Brothers alliance have shown that they can't be trusted even with the sanctity of the game rules, what exactly makes you think they're going to honour any promise they make to you?
Band of Brothers aren't going to SHARE nullspace with you guys. They aren't going to just let you have your own little piece of land if they get their way. John Milton said "better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven", but I think he was implying that serving in Hell was pretty much the worst option of the lot.
Of course, if it was just Band of Brothers on their own against EVE, there'd be no chance. Heck, have you ever thought that it's alliances like yours that actually keep them standing? You're the ones giving all the help to them - I mean, they've run off and left LV bleeding in the dirt already. You think they'll help you if this newly formed coalition starts kicking some tail up in your regions?
Seriously, come on. EVE isn't World of Warcraft. It isn't a game for hyperactive little kiddies who like to blow stuff up. It's (MOSTLY) a game for patient, intellectual adults who like to blow stuff up impressively. Use your grey matter and work out that BoB are milking you dry and are going to toss you away when you aren't useful any longer.
But to the infamous Band of Brothers themselves - congratulations! You must have a very large number of carats in gold plated onto your tongues to be able to amass such a large army of willing dupes and stooges. Such persuasiveness impresses me. Now if only you could persuade Goonswarm to join you...
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Deimos Regal
Soar Angelic
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Posted - 2007.02.25 19:50:00 -
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Get out of our forum with your BoB nonsense. |
Xori Ruscuv
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 25/02/2007 20:09:56
Alliance and corp flame board is that way --------->
It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
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Gank Master
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:17:00 -
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there cheating scum bags, who have actually damaged this game, and a lot of people have lost faith in the GM system etc. for what? greed and power.... for what they did, there allaince/corp should of been ripped up... as a lesson and let every single one of them cry about it.
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Intigo
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:32:00 -
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BoB are my heroes. Especially teqNo. <3
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Xade
Caldari
K.T.P
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:04:00 -
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What BoB offer is the chance of revenge against the worst kind of eve players, the coalition will fall at the hands of BoB and its allies. The only uncertainty is when. The coalition has made enemies of some of the best pvp alliances and corporations in the game and they will never forget this.
Long live BoB and its allies the true warriors of EVE.
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Pepperami
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:23:00 -
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It's fairly simple, really.
Bandwagons annoy me.
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JabJabVVV
Total Mayhem.
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: JabJabVVV on 25/02/2007 22:05:15
If any one organisation or group of organisations control 0.0 then that would be very bad for the game - mining and ratting aren't fun and that is all there would be.
So there will always be war in 0.0 for as long as Eve exists in its current form, the day that stops is the day Eve dies as we know it.
Recognising that and you realise that the ultimate goal of every 0.0 territorial alliance is to either control 0.0, either directly or indirectly through some sort of coalition. BoB and the 'R*pe Train' (ugh) are not as different as you make out. If either side win outright then the consequences are the same.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:21:00 -
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I lol when people act as if any entity in EVE could ever hope to control all of 0.0 space.
Form a 15-20k sized alliance, sure maybe, but of the ones right now? Uh-no. Even if BoB goes down, the coalition aren't going to stay friends forever, and when those rifts rip open, the real war begins.
 Originally by: kieron
The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Meriones
TARDZ
Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:41:00 -
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Looking at your history, its hard to imagine how you can possibly know what you are talking about. You have only been around for a little over a month so I will make this easier for you to understand young one.
ISS, like all alliances decides who they will or won't be allies with. ISS obviously has a reason to be allied with the great war machine that you know of called the "Band of Brothers". So what if BoB wishes to conquer all of eve. Just because they want to does not mean they will. BoB does not have to make any promises to their allies to get them to fight along side them.
"Band of Brothers aren't going to SHARE nullspace with you guys."
With seeing that you are new to the politics of eve and going on the assumption that you really cannot grasp the complications that arise when living in non-secure space at such a young age, BoB does share its space. The people that inhabit their space are free to leave if they wish. They do not have to stay in BoB's lands if they don't want to. However, if you do... As with any other alliance claiming space(D2, LV, Red Alliance, Goonswarm, aAa, etc), being able to live in their space comes with a price. Whether that price is a direct payment of isk, doing certain projects for them, helping with the task of defending the space with them, every alliance has some sort of restrictions and limitations when they open up the possibility of living in non-secure space to outsiders.
A certain respect must be givin to all alliances throughout history that have at some time been able to hold reign over any of the .0 regions. Whether you do not like their name, their policies, their banner.. You must understand the countless hours and determination of not only claiming a .0 region, but also trying to keep it and maintain your empire.
ISS like all the other alliances are making their own decisions and always working to complete their own goals. The propaganda that is coming from the coalition is very strong in this war and I just want to tell you to keep an open mind and not believe everything you hear. As for the most part, BoB has kept quiet and has not bothered to launch any kind of propaganda war unlike their enemies. Seeing this, it makes me think of a quote from the first pilot I ever engaged when I was young like you. "He who laughs last, laughs best."
I hope that your travels in eve bring you fortune and fame Orun. Always remember Orun, Not everyone that smiles at you is your friend. Good luck and fly safe.
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Gank Master
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:49:00 -
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OMFG, mods are sensoring this thread, and not making it know, i made a comment about recent events and "FANISH" with no trace...
Another sign of the GM;s still working in cohoots with bob
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.25 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Xade
What BoB offer is the chance of revenge against the worst kind of eve players, the coalition will fall at the hands of BoB and its allies. The only uncertainty is when. The coalition has made enemies of some of the best pvp alliances and corporations in the game and they will never forget this.
Long live BoB and its allies the true warriors of EVE.
You are a:
a) idiot
b) BOB alt
c) BOB pet alt
d) all of the above
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Xade
What BoB offer is the chance of revenge against the worst kind of eve players, the coalition will fall at the hands of BoB and its allies. The only uncertainty is when. The coalition has made enemies of some of the best pvp alliances and corporations in the game and they will never forget this.
Long live BoB and its allies the true warriors of EVE.
Quoted for LAFFO!
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:25:00 -
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hi jabjab.. I'm bored at work so I thought I would rip apart your post and show you where you are wrong.
Originally by: JabJabVVV
RA farmed bugged 8/10 plexes for months and months making hundreds of billions of isk off an exploit also the term 'logoffski' isn't imitation Russian for nothing.
Who Wasnt? Jus because the reds controlled all the complexes in the south (and still do), doesnt mean they were the only ones using the cap-ship 'exploit'.
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Goonswarm directly violated the EULA by encouraging their members to modify their client in order to show war targets in local (at the time this was not a feature of the game and was an exploit).
wrong. They asked CCP for permission before any modifications were done. And were granted it.
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D2 used a CCP owned but community run (supposedly neutral) fan site in order to collect IP's to identify BoB members.
Wasnt CCP owned.. somehow the domain was linked to a ccp employee but it WASNT an official eve-online forum. I personally feel that it was a genius tactic to find the spies (and it worked). Remember that spying is allowed according to the EULA, so if out-of-game spy tactics are allowed, then so should out-of-game anti-spying tactics.
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None of the big entities are any better behaved than the others and they cannot claim otherwise without hypocrisy.
This part is right. Everyone cheats.. its just a matter of who knows the most secrets. Right now BoB know how to cheat the best, so they have the most space.
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Founder Meo
Gallente
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: Founder Meo on 26/02/2007 01:24:27
even if ra/goond2 and any of the other alliances win itll turn into the battle of witchhead eg on the brink of the victory all the clans turned on each other.
as exploits in my opinion goon are the ones ruining the game not bob, the battle of jv1v was one example of dispicable node crashing tactics which are now legal, unfortunetly for anybody else nobody has the ability to orchestrate this on a large scale except goons.
as for being a bob ruling all 0.0 its extremely unlikely bob dont have the logistics to own all space they dont have the numbers, so it will be rented out of givin to there allies, yes it will be controlled by bob, but if bob wins they will control such a large state with so many satilite corportations that it would be infeasable for anybody to attack them, hell maybe if they do win and control most of the south CCP might even declare them there own empire and negate the 0.0 bonus i dont know. Regardless of the posturing and propagander going on, the bob pets will be fully behind bob for the sole reason of its bob space, and comfert breeds fimiliarity, and those bob pets feel as if thats space there home ... if bob ever did try to take it away from them they would be fighting the civil war to end all wars. but from my experiance bob is way to crafty to let that happen.
as for this war ... well we'll see how it goes if ra/goon win i'm thinking witchhead, if bob win well thats a little bit more unknown.
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Founder Meo
as exploits in my opinion goon are the ones ruining the game not bob, the battle of jv1v was one example of dispicable node crashing tactics which are now legal, unfortunetly for anybody else nobody has the ability to orchestrate this on a large scale except goons.
I'm sorry but when exactly have you engaged in POS warfare against BoB and/or LV?
They brought a blob of 450... so goons brought a bigger blob.
Even if goons brought 20 pilots the node would have crashed. Get your facts straight.
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
It's fairly simple, really.
Bandwagons annoy me.
Comming from someone who fought the 700 RA players with 10 000 players, I guess you're joking.
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Founder Meo
Gallente
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:45:00 -
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I'm simply saying the fact that they were allowed to captilize on the node crash was wrong. crashing the node shouldnt be an allowable tactic for ANYONE.
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Pepperami
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.26 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amerame
Originally by: Pepperami
It's fairly simple, really.
Bandwagons annoy me.
Comming from someone who fought the 700 RA players with 10 000 players, I guess you're joking.
Actually coming from someone who fought 3000 RA/Friends with 700, then got bored as the blue grew and then eventually left to leave the blob to it.
... and who are you to say that; as someone who ran when it got tough and only came back when RA had the blob on their side?
See, It works both ways 
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Luna Rossa Corporation
The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.26 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Meriones
Looking at your history, its hard to imagine how you can possibly know what you are talking about. You have only been around for a little over a month so I will make this easier for you to understand young one.
Had the wrong character selected.
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Kaganis Warmonkey
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Orun Erajen
I'm looking at you, ISS.
OK, let me, an ISS grunt, give you a completely un-official answer from the trenches.
Pretty much everyone gunning for BoB have been trying to kill us since before BoB sided with us. Those that have attacked us since are more due to us being on LV's side than BoB's.
"The enemy of my enemy..." & all that.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:12:00 -
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Why isn't this thread locked yet?
The simple fact is that war needs multiple sides, and war is fun.
Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: Amerame
Originally by: Pepperami
It's fairly simple, really.
Bandwagons annoy me.
Comming from someone who fought the 700 RA players with 10 000 players, I guess you're joking.
Actually coming from someone who fought 3000 RA/Friends with 700, then got bored as the blue grew and then eventually left to leave the blob to it.
... and who are you to say that; as someone who ran when it got tough and only came back when RA had the blob on their side?
See, It works both ways
Yeah I "ran" fighting the whole north alongside ~800 other TCF players. Don't try to paint yourself as some sort of hero always fighting against the odd, you had no problem trying to kill RA with over 10 to 1 odds. You'd do it again if you'd ever get a chance.
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Pepperami
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Amerame
Yeah I "ran" fighting the whole north alongside ~800 other TCF players. Don't try to paint yourself as some sort of hero always fighting against the odd, you had no problem trying to kill RA with over 10 to 1 odds. You'd do it again if you'd ever get a chance.
lol, I didn't paint anyone anything. Shall we stop derailing the thread or is the concept of me being annoyed by bandwagons and massive blobs boring me still posing too much for you to comprehend without you posting to your default lv/v trolls?
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:56:00 -
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TEA OR CAKE OR DEATH TEA OR CAKE OR DEATH
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:10:00 -
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I'll answer your question with a question.
How would you rather fight? Totally outnumbered, slim chance of success, and no safety anywhere.... or warm, in the comfortable embrace of delusion that fifteen alliances and 20,000 pilots can hope to coordinate together for long enough to accomplish something that until this point in history, they've not had the guts to try?
I don't know about you, but to me 20,000 friends is 19,999 too many. Drowning in a sea of friendlies is not the way I would plan on failing.
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 07:08:00 -
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Does the phrase "go suck a lemon" mean anything to you? 
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Kyo Makamoto
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Posted - 2007.02.26 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Orun Erajen
This is addressed to pretty much anyone working in or alongside the in-game "alliance" (I use the term losely) of alliances working alongside Band of Brothers. I'm looking at you, ISS.
because the ISS BoD (board of directors) are BoD alts..
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Luna Rossa Corporation
The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:27:00 -
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IM IN UR ALLIANCES, QUESTIONING UR MOTIVATIONS
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 26/02/2007 14:20:54
Originally by: Pepperami
It's fairly simple, really.
Bandwagons annoy me.
Signed, besides that I think Redswarm+TCF are imperialistic too, they currently try to get control over the southeast, which I consider my home and I have no idea, where it stops.
Redswarm is land-grabbing there and has removed me from my home region, BoB does it currently not.
So my personal view is/was pretty much: First stop ragoons.
I see them still as enemies and I don't like Goonfleet, because they pi**ed me off with things like spies bringing V internal talk to the public forums, corp spies stealing carriers and pos, trying to offline poses, the whole 'fofofofo' stuff... I hope someone kicks them in the nuts.
Not speaking for Cult of War of course, this is my personal 'problem' 
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Rutefly
Amarr
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:20:00 -
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I dont think BOB want sto control all 0.0. They just want to blow up everything so they have proven that nothing is more dangerous than they are.
Theres an alternative theory that states its a religious motivation that guides BOB. But i think thats against the EULA.
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:38:00 -
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I choose my friends and allies by judging their actions towards me.
Treat me well I treat you well. You do well onto me I do well onto you.
You sir are an ass.
Dark-Rising
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Harpoon
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:48:00 -
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It's all a matter of choices. I - as a member of ISS - am confronted with a conflict of different ideologies. And although I don't support everything BoB did in the past, I MUCH more dislike everything Ragoon stands for.
I'd rather have an agreement with a slightly imperialistic superpower (you may call it "pet-status"), before I sympathize with a so called coalition, which seems to follow an agenda that completely contradicts everything I believe in.
Just google for "Goons" or "Goonswarm" to find out, which attitude they bring to online gaming.
As I said - it's a decision between completely different ideologies.
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Founder Meo
Gallente
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.26 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Harpoon
I'd rather have an agreement with a slightly imperialistic superpower.
this sounds like a job for the ribbontop compact !
as for the goons whilst i pew pew with them whenever theres a CTA or i can be bothered i dont actually have anything against them .... except there killboard ... i REALLY dislike their killboard, in fact i might go so far as to say i HATE there killboard ! damn you no search function !
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Ascrethy
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.26 22:35:00 -
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"Today amist fears that the "coalition" was begining to falter in it's push against the "alliance", Orun Erajen took to the alliance summit to slander BoB and renounce all their allies as pets, this can clearly be seen as an act of desperation of the coalition."
You sided with goons & RA, suffer.
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Antion
Gallente
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 05:19:00 -
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Let me give you another ISS grunts perspective...
LV has been a long standing ally of ISS, since the time of ISS Marginis being first deployed. They came to help fend off CDC and CC when they tried to take ISS Tycho, and when The Establishment (and another alliance... forget) took ISS Consido. ISS stands by their allies.
IAC has publicly stated that there will be no peace between ISS and IAC while Count is in charge of ISS. They wish to remove us from 0.0.
IAC works closesly with Goonswarm, and the other members of the coalition.
What do you expect ISS to do in such a case?
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Jnr Rau
The Tidemark
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 06:55:00 -
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Edited by: Jnr Rau on 27/02/2007 06:53:09
Originally by: Antion
Let me give you another ISS grunts perspective...
LV has been a long standing ally of ISS, since the time of ISS Marginis being first deployed. They came to help fend off CDC and CC when they tried to take ISS Tycho, and when The Establishment (and another alliance... forget) took ISS Consido. ISS stands by their allies.
IAC has publicly stated that there will be no peace between ISS and IAC while Count is in charge of ISS. They wish to remove us from 0.0.
IAC works closesly with Goonswarm, and the other members of the coalition.
What do you expect ISS to do in such a case?
You sir have been blinded by your masters.
IAC was there defending ZXIC also and in larger numbers, then we got the backstabbing part 1 and so began the decline of relations between ISS and IAC. LV started shooting IAC after a bad blue on blue incident, IAC's fault somewhat and one that was to be patched up except LV figured we were "soft targets" and decided to make us permanently red and came to our systems saying "nice station we'll take it in local".
So much bad blood has spawned since and has been on EVE-O. ISS's poor leadership and poor management has left you only one choice run to your master and hope they can save you, shame they have bigger problems to deal with atm.
All IAC wanted was a trusted and friendly neighbour, nobody likes a security risk and spinless, backstabbing neighbour.
choo choo, fofofof .. how ever you say it, it spells death and destruction for those that are on the recieving end.
Go the coalition.
Edit: Typos.
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Kriger
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.27 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Orun Erajen
This is addressed to pretty much anyone working in or alongside the in-game "alliance" (I use the term losely) of alliances working alongside Band of Brothers. I'm looking at you, ISS.
What are you thinking?
Their stated long-term goal is to "control all of non-secure space". That means that, all things being equal and everything going according to plan, every 0.0 region, constellation and system will be a sea of dots which are a single, uniform colour, and in the key, alongside that colour, it will read "Band of Brothers". No, it won't read "Mercenary Coalition", "Interstellar Starbase Syndicate" or anything else. It will read "Band of Brothers", because every other damn alliance out there will have no sovreignty.
What exactly did they promise you if you fought for them? Do you think they'll leave you alone once all of their enemies are gone? Are you fighting just so you get the rights to be wiped out last? Band of Brothers alliance have shown that they can't be trusted even with the sanctity of the game rules, what exactly makes you think they're going to honour any promise they make to you?
Band of Brothers aren't going to SHARE nullspace with you guys. They aren't going to just let you have your own little piece of land if they get their way. John Milton said "better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven", but I think he was implying that serving in Hell was pretty much the worst option of the lot.
Of course, if it was just Band of Brothers on their own against EVE, there'd be no chance. Heck, have you ever thought that it's alliances like yours that actually keep them standing? You're the ones giving all the help to them - I mean, they've run off and left LV bleeding in the dirt already. You think they'll help you if this newly formed coalition starts kicking some tail up in your regions? Use your grey matter and work out that BoB are milking you dry and are going to toss you away when you aren't useful any longer.
But to the infamous Band of Brothers themselves - congratulations! You must have a very large number of carats in gold plated onto your tongues to be able to amass such a large army of willing dupes and stooges. Such persuasiveness impresses me. Now if only you could persuade Goonswarm to join you...
Post cleaned of OOC remarks, and moved from Crime and Punishment. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
You might want to consider that some corps and alliances have their own reasons for fighting the enemies of BoB.
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari
Warped Mining
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.02.27 10:49:00 -
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The best I can say about this conflict is that both sides are employing lame methods, and both sides are as guilty as the other when it comes to past abuse of game mechanics.
For those on either side of the conflict to claim otherwise is a joke.
No White Knights here.
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Diurpaneus
Caldari
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.02.27 11:47:00 -
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First thing first ./signed
Now, cmon guys the only FUEL wich keeps the anti-BoB coallition is the BoB-Dev.-T2BPO's affair, wich in my opinion was coveret in smoke with the statement of *action was taken, discution closed* 
Then ... after 1 mounth of fighting CCP comes and like a wizle promts in the NEWS: "... The growing concern amongst those few remaining independent alliances and the lingering discontent displayed by those displaced by BoBÆs to date, rarely impeded advances have culminated finally, in all out war. " ... when the mainly reason of the war is the above plus some low-morality war tactics.
So, after 2,3,4 mounths of war after the last BoB station will be conquered we will continue our "beautiful little wars" as we like, with no devs. cheap tricks and spyes. You had Cov. Ops. pilots, it was not enough .. you wanted SPYES(in co. op. ships  ), DEVS., and TAINTED BPOS ... we will give you justice!
Here is why all the NORD and EST is against you.. Cya in SPACE
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Lord Seth
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:52:00 -
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BoB THREAD WooT!!!
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 27/02/2007 12:50:11
Originally by: Diurpaneus
So, after 2,3,4 mounths of war after the last BoB station will be conquered we will continue our "beautiful little wars" as we like, with no devs. cheap tricks and spyes.
Actually the spies, who brought Light Darkness' alliance posts to the EVE-O forums to smack and demoralize were not from BoB.
The spies, who listened to LV-TS and gave all our fleet movements to the enemy were not from BoB.
The spies, who wanted to offline all poses in KZF, but failed and so they stole a carrier from a V corp and ran away with towers and pos fuel were also not BoBs.
They were Goons in our case ! So good luck to a future without cheap tricks and spies.
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Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.27 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Plutoinum
Edited by: Plutoinum on 27/02/2007 12:53:04
Originally by: Diurpaneus
So, after 2,3,4 mounths of war after the last BoB station will be conquered we will continue our "beautiful little wars" as we like, with no devs. cheap tricks and spyes.
Actually the spies, who brought Light Darkness' alliance posts to the EVE-O forums to smack and demoralize were not from BoB.
The spies, who listened to LV-TS and gave all our fleet movements to the enemy were not from BoB.
The spies, who wanted to offline all poses in KZF, but failed and so they stole a carrier from a V corp and ran away with towers and pos fuel for billions were also not BoBs.
They were Goons in our case ! So good luck to a future without cheap tricks and spies.
sch Plutonium.. dont make the idealist sad.. he genuinly seems to believe the rubbish he posted. BoB are evil, when they are gona, all will be good. BoB are all devs and cheaters and once they r gone all is good.. all the BoB players will ofcourse leave EVE never to return, oh the happy days are coming if the coalition wins.. nooooooot.
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Caldari
BO.RG
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Posted - 2007.02.27 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Diurpaneus
First thing first ./signed
Now, cmon guys the only FUEL wich keeps the anti-BoB coallition is the BoB-Dev.-T2BPO's affair, wich in my opinion was coveret in smoke with the statement of *action was taken, discution closed*
So, after 2,3,4 mounths of war after the last BoB station will be conquered we will continue our "beautiful little wars" as we like, with no devs. cheap tricks and spyes. You had Cov. Ops. pilots, it was not enough .. you wanted SPYES(in co. op. ships ), DEVS., and TAINTED BPOS ... we will give you justice!
Here is why all the NORD and EST is against you.. Cya in SPACE
Just one thing, do you really think 99.999% of BoB did know anything about what happened with the Dev cheating ? Most of them just want to play a game and try to win battles just like anybody else. But it's just like you said, it's all about the BoB-Dev.-T2BPO's affair where the DEV just happened to be in BoB which has caused this war. IMHO you should blame CCP for this problem by not handling it well and not BoB.
Killing BoB will not remove any cheating DEVs from the game. The only people capable of preventing this from happening is CCP and not BoB. Just remember that next time the cheating DEV might be in your alliance and your alliance will be the target. Would you like being attacked because a cheating DEV happened to be in your alliance ?
And for DEVs helping BoB/LV, was the DEVs decission to ignore bugged POS's/sov and the crashed node in favour of BoB/LV ?
And yes, BoB sometimes uses game mechanics not as they were intended and they have used spies, but have you ever seen RA and goons fight ?
But if you really think a space without BoB will be a lot more fun you'll be surprised after that 2,3,4 monts of war. I can garantee you, killing BoB will not remove any cheating DEVs from the game, only CCP can prevent that from happening again.
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Posted - 2007.02.27 14:04:00 -
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Please remember that this forum is an in-character RP area. Discussions of real life cheating are not permitted. Please mail us at [email protected] if you require further clarifiction.
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Seraphin Technologies
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Posted - 2007.02.27 16:30:00 -
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We love to fight outnumbered.
We love to prove bigmouthy people wrong.
We love to collect the loot of the beforehand bigmouthy and see them whining for petition.
We love to destroy the reimbursed ships over and over again.
We love to entertain youÅÖ!
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Isonkon Serikain
Gallente
Band of Builders Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.27 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Isonkon Serikain on 27/02/2007 21:40:20
Edited by: Isonkon Serikain on 27/02/2007 21:37:21
Bla bla bla...BoB is gonna enslave you bla bla...
I've been around long enough to know that Bob says those things to provoke people into fighting them. They're there for the PVP. And if they hold ground its to finance those titans and fleets. Ironically there are many aspiring BoB -like entities at the moment, who are pointing fingers when they should not.
Face it, if you can't keep your space from BoB, or any other entity, for that matter, then you don't deserve it. It goes for everyone, including my own alliance. With that said, I'd like to talk about the hypocrisy of the coalition of alliances, who some claim are standing up to BoB's imperialism. It's all HOGWASH. They all want the same thing, to be the top dog. I was very disappointed by some former FIX corps recently, who joined this coalition with george w bushesque rhetoric along the lines of " we are here to remove the shackles of BoB and help you reclaim your freedom"... meanwhile they destroyed one of our major production POS in empire, that clearly have NOTHING to do with FIX being under BOB's iron rule, or whatever. We have hostiles trying to run our complexes, while on the forums they are saying "help us free you from BoB". But really if they wanted to free us from BOB, they would not be attacking FIX at all, because FIX is minding its own business most of the time and isn't a threat to them... It is clear that this is about a land grab... Personally I'd rather see BoB on my side than having some 'plex ho's take over Querious to 'deliver' us...
BoB is no more evil than the opposition. They just have a higher profile and make a good target for blame, that's all. If anything, the opposing coalition is actually greedier than BOB. At least their behavior towards FIX space makes that pretty transparent.
Also, your point about BOB being unable to take care of itself is completely moot. I aggree that I don't see them holding all that space on their own, but if you manage to get them entrenched in one spot by subjugating all their friends, you'll have hit a wall and will not go any further, you just don't realize that yet. They have the track record for performance and perseverance, their enemies don't. You think you'll be able to take over a constellation defended by 200 BOB pilots with 500 Goon/D2/RA etc? Game mechanics will fail before this could happen. So the best you can possibly hope for is to push BOB back into one region of space and reclaim the rest for yourselves. And in doing so, a United North would become the next BOB that everyone hates. So clearly, if you are here to deliver us from BOB, you are doing so at the risk of become the next BOB... Way to go.
Change your rhetoric and say : "we just want to kick everyone's ass and prove we are the best and take your riches"... then I'll believe you.
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Azver Deroven
Amarr
Laurifer Militis
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.02.28 06:52:00 -
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Well, even if this may not repesent my alliances or my corps point of view, my money is on bob.
They're there solely to fight, due this entity known as bob is extremely hard to erradicate by those aiming to fight, mine, build and otherwise run an empire. As proof of this I present bobs history...
And what are these things I see on news? About another titan (of d2) being destroyed?
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War of New Eden
reported by: Mithros Ja'kiri | 2007.02.25 08:39:07
The loss of the station was compounded by the destruction of a Coalition Titan from D2. In a spectacular display of the value of subterfuge, a spy prevented the super-capital ship from safely leaving space and, having been probed out; a BoB fleet engaged and destroyed the behemoth, the second ship of its class to fall prey to them. Although Coalition forces have suffered some heavy losses and setbacks, their resolve remains unbroken and the appearance of a second Titan recently has shown a willingness to continue their campaign despite the heaviest of losses.
Is this true?
And if this is true, bob has just further proved that despite maybe being overnumbered, they are still force enough to deal major damage to their enemies.
I hope I wont get seen as bob pet, as I have no personal knowledge of this, and I wont say I've been there to see eve history developing since beginning (So saying that since Im new I dont know anything isnt actualy an strategy against me) but I dare to say that what I've seen and read, propaganda or not, tip the scale into this direction.
Beside if coalition doesnt have bob to hate, it will break down. Think coalition as USA, now think that each state suddenly turns against others.
Saying this offcorse means that its not good either if anti-bob coalition gets annihilated. Seeing how bob is focused on fighting, they need someone to fight. (I allmost used term keep amused)
I personaly find the one big front image much more easier and simple to take than small states waving war to each other
((Sorry for real world comparision, but its really best way to compare the situation that I came up with))
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Jnr Rau
The Tidemark
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.01 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Isonkon Serikain
But really if they wanted to free us from BOB, they would not be attacking FIX at all, because FIX is minding its own business most of the time and isn't a threat to them... It is clear that this is about a land grab... Personally I'd rather see BoB on my side than having some 'plex ho's take over Querious to 'deliver' us...
lollerskates... you guys have jumped on every bandwagon trying to remove IAC from its space.. I'm personally looking forward to removing you and the shackles that hold you to a BoB region. May you enjoy the black screens of death in Jita and the Privateers cheering as you undock only to be back in a fresh clone before your system has even loaded the undocking sequence.
So what if its a land grab, who cares if the coalition are as bad as BoB... everyone picks a side and fights for what they believe in... I personally think its time for a new Top Dog of eve and I'm looking forward to being a part of the coming events, fighting for what I believe is the best thing for me, my alliance, the coalition and the greater eve community.
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Proxay
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.01 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jnr Rau
Originally by: Isonkon Serikain
But really if they wanted to free us from BOB, they would not be attacking FIX at all, because FIX is minding its own business most of the time and isn't a threat to them... It is clear that this is about a land grab... Personally I'd rather see BoB on my side than having some 'plex ho's take over Querious to 'deliver' us...
lollerskates... you guys have jumped on every bandwagon trying to remove IAC from its space.. I'm personally looking forward to removing you and the shackles that hold you to a BoB region. May you enjoy the black screens of death in Jita and the Privateers cheering as you undock only to be back in a fresh clone before your system has even loaded the undocking sequence.
So what if its a land grab, who cares if the coalition are as bad as BoB... everyone picks a side and fights for what they believe in... I personally think its time for a new Top Dog of eve and I'm looking forward to being a part of the coming events, fighting for what I believe is the best thing for me, my alliance, the coalition and the greater eve community.
Myself, My Corp and My alliance fight for our rights to live in fountain, as we always have.
Good luck, leave the forums to the noobs.
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Posted - 2007.03.01 14:25:00 -
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This why the thread is now locked.
1. The thread was started in Crime and Punishment where it didn't belong. It couldn't be moved to CAOD because OP didn't show Corp/Alliance Tickers. So it was moved to this Incharacter forum
2. The thread has now gone horribly OOC.
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