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Fairfax Narmolaya Grupa Operacyjna ZLY CHUJI 2	Posted - 2016.05.22 22:36:25 - [1] - Quote Hello there! I'd like to discuss a few issues regarding Citadels Corproate Hangars I've noticed so far. I believe that many WH corporations have got "shareable" ships as corporates properties, such as BS/cruisers for wormhole rolling, logis, commands, some recons/support ships and salvagers. That's especially important in WH space - it allows saving a few m3 in a sma by sharing commons ships between corpo members. For example - it would be rather silly for every single corp member to has their own BS for wh rolling. Also, if you would like to steal those ships - you gonna take a lot of time (and holes if lucky) to get them out from the hole. Lets look into the future - POSes are gone from eve, and all those ships are in Corporate Hangars, which are pain in the a*** to quickly reship as it is in a sma. With Citadel, you can just easily "drag and drop" all items/ships to your own hangar and they will dissappear forever. CEO has no feature to take a peak what his corp members has got in their own hangars (interestingly, it is possible at a station, but not at a citadel - that's rather strange move as large citadels are mean to replace outpost in a future). Or take a less tragic scenario - corp member just forgot to put it back to corp hangar, and CEO/directors are not able to find it with current features. My conclusion is, citadels are meant to bring easier management for private assets (and asset safety), but their got a huuuuge problem with corporates properties. There is no tool for directors to find where stuff has gone or how to protect them. All we can do is lock hangar access to some corp members, and distribute the ships I've mentioned to individuals (double trouble, no excitement at all). Any solutions I can't see?
aldhura Bartledannians The Ascendancy Protocol 43	Posted - 2016.05.23 00:55:58 - [2] - Quote I am sure this info will eventually make its way in to the API's. Bartledannians Corporation is recruiting
NoobMan Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens 251	Posted - 2016.05.23 10:48:06 - [3] - Quote I've thought and talked about this a lot. I really miss having all my ships in one SMA that ll of my Alts have access too. I wish we could take the new Access groups and make our own storage groups. But I don't think CCP would be keen on this idea, from a technical side of how items are owned and a weird shared ownership mine not jive with legacy code. From a game design IDK if this is what they want either. I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. This idea would be completely foreign for the rest of Eve but wormholers would likely really appreciate it. Now spend development time on a feature only a small part of Eve would use is a whole different story. I would love to hear others opinions on this topic and if there is a better solution! Operations Director of Hard K(n)ocks Inc.
helana Tsero Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 485	Posted - 2016.05.23 12:43:54 - [4] - Quote NoobMan wrote: I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. Thats a good solution. This would also prevent the problem of corp members quiting eve and leaving expensive ships in their untouchable personal hangers. If a citadel of large corp stands for a couple of years then the isk value of the abandoned ships from people who have left eve will be significant. Nice loot pinata for sure but hardly fair on the corp that gets it citadel blown up.. cause it has no way to evac those abandoned ships/modules. "... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where eve is placed... not in cave..." \| zoonr-Korsairs \| QFT !
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1451	Posted - 2016.05.23 14:02:38 - [5] - Quote One thing I would like is the ability to set up secure containers in the corp hangars, at the moment you can assemble them but cannot password protect them
Pinkylein Rolling Static Sleeping Dragons 9	Posted - 2016.05.23 14:27:34 - [6] - Quote Yes Containers are a good thing, but easier when someone assembles it and just has an option like "right click --> give access to: " Because yes. Alts are a huge pain right now, when one char holds all the assets, but is not in the wh and the alt char cannot access it. And i don't wanna be a **** regarding members to own a division, but rest cannot. So directors still have some more options, but when having 20 members in a citadel and telling them, just use divion 3 to share between your alts, but keep your stuff still in your own hangar so nobody else can touch it, when you're not around, exactly brings up the problem with non-availability when the holder of your ships/mods is not around. To more or less have the same options running like a SMA/CHA combo for each group of people they have shared access to it in a POS, i would need to set up an additional citadel. And that would become really isk-inefficient. And at that point i did not even consider all the options you could store stuff in ... like advanced large ship assembly array.
Tatsuj Khan Team Pizza Good at this Game 10	Posted - 2016.05.23 19:56:34 - [7] - Quote NoobMan wrote: I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. This idea would be completely foreign for the rest of Eve but wormholers would likely really appreciate it. No. High asset security is a strong citadel feature that goes a long way to prevent theft by directors in j-space. As a victim of theft by directors in my previous WH corp ( Cascading Failure / Un.Bound ) and soon after a witness to a massive double corporate theft (30+ billion) by a current Hard Knock member named forsot ( director, Resurrection Ventures / Un.Bound ) and his friends, it's a bad idea to change asset security currently implemented. Yes, high asset security prevents directors from scooping billions in free assets but I believe the rank and file applaud it. :D Rather than depending on mechanics to get at assets, build a strong reputation for fair dealings, trust, and high two-way communications with members. Many people should then be happy to make arrangement if they do leave Eve.
Tatsuj Khan Team Pizza Good at this Game 10	Posted - 2016.05.23 20:14:11 - [8] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: One thing I would like is the ability to set up secure containers in the corp hangars, at the moment you can assemble them but cannot password protect them The ability to install the largest secure (ideally station sized) containers would be an ideal, perhaps temporary, solution. Since corporate hanger space is unlimited, there could be password-protected station-like containers for access by a wide range of user groups. For example, cantainers that allow access by the whole corporation, access by teams, and access by a player for all his alts, an so on. Of course, fitted ships and all types of items should be allowed inside the Citadel's secure containers. Station containers won't be able to be scooped by theives in the largest freighters, so that gives good security.
Tatsuj Khan Team Pizza Good at this Game 10	Posted - 2016.05.23 20:16:52 - [9] - Quote Tatsuj Khan wrote: Tsukino Stareine wrote: One thing I would like is the ability to set up secure containers in the corp hangars, at the moment you can assemble them but cannot password protect them The ability to install the largest secure (ideally station sized) containers would be an ideal, perhaps temporary, solution. Since corporate hanger space is unlimited, there could be password-protected station-like containers for access by a wide range of user groups. For example, cantainers that allow access by the whole corporation except those on membership trial, access by teams, and access by a player for all his alts, an so on. Of course, fitted ships and all types of items should be allowed inside the Citadel's secure containers. Station containers won't be able to be scooped by theives in the largest freighters, so that gives good security.
Tatsuj Khan Team Pizza Good at this Game 10	Posted - 2016.05.23 20:17:48 - [10] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: One thing I would like is the ability to set up secure containers in the corp hangars, at the moment you can assemble them but cannot password protect them The ability to install the largest secure (ideally station sized) containers would be an ideal, perhaps temporary, solution. Since corporate hanger space is unlimited, there could be password-protected station-like containers for access by a wide range of user groups. For example, access by Op teams, and access by a player for all his alts, an so on. Of course, fitted ships and all types of items should be allowed inside the Citadel's secure containers. Station containers won't be able to be scooped by theives in the largest freighters, so that gives good security.

Hatshepsut IV Un.Reasonable 376	Posted - 2016.05.23 21:39:15 - [11] - Quote NoobMan wrote: I've thought and talked about this a lot. I really miss having all my ships in one SMA that ll of my Alts have access too. I wish we could take the new Access groups and make our own storage groups. But I don't think CCP would be keen on this idea, from a technical side of how items are owned and a weird shared ownership mine not jive with legacy code. From a game design IDK if this is what they want either. I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. This idea would be completely foreign for the rest of Eve but wormholers would likely really appreciate it. Now spend development time on a feature only a small part of Eve would use is a whole different story. I would love to hear others opinions on this topic and if there is a better solution! THIS x1000 I remember talking at length about stuff like this ages ago with Corbexx. Reality of it anyone who seriously plays in w-space has multiple accounts and characters. I share most of the ships and things I can use across my characters and accounts. Having the ability to create custom access group/hangers would be a godsend. Public Channel \| Un.Welcome
Tatsuj Khan Team Pizza Good at this Game 10	Posted - 2016.05.23 23:31:44 - [12] - Quote Hatshepsut IV wrote: NoobMan wrote: I've thought and talked about this a lot. I really miss having all my ships in one SMA that ll of my Alts have access too. I wish we could take the new Access groups and make our own storage groups. But I don't think CCP would be keen on this idea, from a technical side of how items are owned and a weird shared ownership mine not jive with legacy code. From a game design IDK if this is what they want either. I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. This idea would be completely foreign for the rest of Eve but wormholers would likely really appreciate it. Now spend development time on a feature only a small part of Eve would use is a whole different story. I would love to hear others opinions on this topic and if there is a better solution! THIS x1000 I remember talking at length about stuff like this ages ago with Corbexx. Reality of it anyone who seriously plays in w-space has multiple accounts and characters. I share most of the ships and things I can use across my characters and accounts. Having the ability to create custom access group/hangers would be a godsend.
Tatsuj Khan Team Pizza Good at this Game 10	Posted - 2016.05.23 23:39:34 - [13] - Quote Hatshepsut IV wrote: NoobMan wrote: ... I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. ... THIS x1000 LOL of course you would Hatshepsut IV / Ulic Trask / Hierophantic. Then you were director of Cascading Failure (now Un.Reasonable), we amicably parted ways and yet you helped yourself to my ships and assets in my division. CCP, high asset security in citadels is one of this new structure's best features. Don't gimp it now. Please consider the majority of players in j-space. As my personal example of loss due to theft demonstrated, NoobMan's idea will only benefit the few elite.
forsot Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens 41	Posted - 2016.05.24 01:01:03 - [14] - Quote Tatsuj Khan wrote: NoobMan wrote: I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. This idea would be completely foreign for the rest of Eve but wormholers would likely really appreciate it. No. High asset security is a strong citadel feature that goes a long way to prevent theft by directors in j-space. As a victim of theft by directors in my previous WH corp ( Cascading Failure / Un.Bound ) and soon after a witness to a massive double corporate theft (30+ billion) by a current Hard Knocks member named forsot ( director, Resurrection Ventures / Un.Bound ) and his friends, it's a bad idea to change asset security currently implemented. Yes, high asset security prevents directors from scooping billions in free assets but I believe the rank and file applaud it. :D Rather than depending on mechanics to get at assets, build a strong reputation for fair dealings, trust, and high two-way communications with members. Many people should then be happy to make mutually-satisfying arrangements if they do leave Eve. Perhaps you should get your facts straight before posting on the forums, whether it be accusing someone of something or not understanding mechanics. 1.In citadels current form you can unanchor them and loot the goodies in w-space it takes 7 days iirc. So itGÇÖs harder outside of a ceo but the same mechanics are still there and useable for a large theft. 2.Those couple ships you keep pestering Trask about got lost when we were moving out. You kept pestering him while we were trying to stage an eviction /consolidate alliance assets, perhaps if you were as active in corp as you were at pestering him you wouldnGÇÖt have had that problem. 3.I might have poor choices in people I play eve with but I am no thief, anyone who says otherwise should know better.
Sith1s Spectre Un.Reasonable 1359	Posted - 2016.05.24 01:27:13 - [15] - Quote Tatsuj Khan wrote: NoobMan wrote: I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. This idea would be completely foreign for the rest of Eve but wormholers would likely really appreciate it. No. High asset security is a strong citadel feature that goes a long way to prevent theft by directors in j-space. As a victim of theft by directors in my previous WH corp ( Cascading Failure / Un.Bound ) and soon after a witness to a massive double corporate theft (30+ billion) by a current Hard Knocks member named forsot ( director, Resurrection Ventures / Un.Bound ) and his friends, it's a bad idea to change asset security currently implemented. Yes, high asset security prevents directors from scooping billions in free assets but I believe the rank and file applaud it. :D Rather than depending on mechanics to get at assets, build a strong reputation for fair dealings, trust, and high two-way communications with members. Many people should then be happy to make mutually-satisfying arrangements if they do leave Eve. Thank you for the stratios. I have refit it to a better purpose. Resident forum troll and fashion consultant
helana Tsero Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 485	Posted - 2016.05.24 01:37:12 - [16] - Quote Tatsuj Khan wrote: Hatshepsut IV wrote: NoobMan wrote: ... I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. ... THIS x1000 LOL of course you would Hatshepsut IV / Ulic Trask / Hierophantic. Then you were director of Cascading Failure (now Un.Reasonable), we amicably parted ways and yet you helped yourself to my ships and assets in my division. CCP, high asset security in citadels is one of this new structure's best features. Don't gimp it now. Please consider the majority of players in j-space. As my personal example of loss due to director theft demonstrated, NoobMan's idea will only benefit the few elite. Actually a far greater issue is a corp accidentally recruiting a awoxer and he then transfers all your corp use ships/mods/ammo to his personal hanger for lol. The solution noobman outlined would prevent that. In my experience most of the "wh director stole my ships" complaints usually comes from members who go AFK without explanation for 2-3months and then log on and whinge that their ships were sold. WH corps are not a ship storage service. Obviously organized director theft is a exception but that is far rarer than the afk member ship sold scenario. Anyway lets keep this thread about solutions not fill it with personal grievances. "... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where eve is placed... not in cave..." \| zoonr-Korsairs \| QFT !
Tatsuj Khan Team Pizza Good at this Game 10	Posted - 2016.05.24 02:16:45 - [17] - Quote helana Tsero wrote: Actually a far greater issue is a corp accidentally recruiting a awoxer and he then transfers all your corp use ships/mods/ammo to his personal hanger for lol. The solution noobman outlined would prevent that. Of course it varies from corp to corp but I think most j-space players own their ships. My experience is with high-class holes. Now with the removal of capital escalation waves and its replacement with drifter battleships that even a relatively small fleet of sub-caps can kill, I think there is now even less reason to make pricey ships available for corp-wide use. If an awoxer gets his lols from taking ammo, and cheap mods, and a few rolling megas.... he is pitiful indeed lol. And he'll get a character reputation hit, which is a big dis-incentive to steal trivial amounts for j-space.
ExookiZ The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 356	Posted - 2016.05.24 12:18:00 - [18] - Quote NoobMan wrote: I've thought and talked about this a lot. I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. This idea would be completely foreign for the rest of Eve but wormholers would likely really appreciate it. Now spend development time on a feature only a small part of Eve would use is a whole different story. I would love to hear others opinions on this topic and if there is a better solution! From the perspective of a CEO in my corp I would be for that idea. I am biased of course, but i think that if your worried about your directors robbing you, you may have bigger issues. This wouldnt be a downgrade from POSes anyways since they could always access all your stuff. Another item I would love to see Noobman, and I suspect many can see its use is containers or hangar logs. I was very pleased to see a full log on ACLs showing every move someone makes, so if one of my managers gets sneaky and fucks everything up I can see that it was him. Lets get that for hangars ( or containers). I have always felt that not having logs on hangars was practically encouraging theft. Right now audited containers track who puts stuff into them, but not out ( how backwards is that????). I would love to be able to have a publicly acessible fleet of rolling ships, scanners etc for people that just need one in a hurry. If it gets robbed thats fine, I accepted the risk by putting stuff intot hem, but I would like to know who it is. To think we have massive space stations, and no hangar manager with a clipboard writing down whos taking all the **** is silly. Event Organizer of EVE North East
Alexhandr Shkarov Swamphole Inc. Swamphole 40	Posted - 2016.05.24 14:57:02 - [19] - Quote Tatsuj Khan wrote: NoobMan wrote: I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. This idea would be completely foreign for the rest of Eve but wormholers would likely really appreciate it. No. High asset security is a strong citadel feature that goes a long way to prevent theft by directors in j-space. As a victim of theft by directors in my previous WH corp ( Cascading Failure / Un.Bound ) and soon after a witness to a massive double corporate theft (30+ billion) by a current Hard Knocks member named forsot ( director, Resurrection Ventures / Un.Bound ) and his friends, it's a bad idea to change asset security currently implemented. Yes, high asset security prevents directors from scooping billions in free assets but I believe the rank and file applaud it. :D Rather than depending on mechanics to get at assets, build a strong reputation for fair dealings, trust, and high two-way communications with members. Many people should then be happy to make mutually-satisfying arrangements if they do leave Eve. I'd like to point out: Noobman suggested an OPT-IN function. In other words, it is disabled unless YOU permit people to access it. As a result, if you want no one to touch it, you share the hangars with no one. All my posts are on my personal title and should not be confused as me speaking for anyone else.
Tatsuj Khan Team Pizza Good at this Game 10	Posted - 2016.05.24 16:01:38 - [20] - Quote Alexhandr Shkarov wrote: NoobMan wrote: ... (kinda like high sec awox corp settings)... I'd like to point out: Noobman suggested an OPT-IN function. In other words, it is disabled unless YOU permit people to access it. As a result, if you want no one to touch it, you share the hangars with no one. Going with what NoobMan wrote, his suggestion is for a single switch that gives the corporate top access to all the assets of members. "kinda like high sec awox corp settings" Although you seem to suggest a new mechanic where each player can toogle on/off access by other members to his/her personal hangers. Hmm, interesting variation on the station containers discussed above. With a personal access list similar to that used to control granular access to the citadel, I think this idea is very promising. forsot wrote: 3.I might have poor choices in people I play eve with but I am no thief, anyone who says otherwise should know better. If any senior asks, I'll let the documented evidence speak for itself. forsot and fellow director Beta Page serves as a prime example of the potential risk posed by NoobMan's suggestion.

Hatshepsut IV Un.Reasonable 378	Posted - 2016.05.24 20:34:03 - [21] - Quote Tatsuj Khan wrote: If any senior asks, I'll let the documented evidence speak for itself. forsot and fellow director Beta Page serves as a prime example of the potential risk posed by NoobMan's suggestion to change citadel functionality. Ok. Enough is enough. Myself and forsot didn't agree on much, one thing we did though was you. Hence why you were removed from the only actual wormhole Corp you have had any experience with. Why were you removed? I'm glad you asked. It was becuase you were a hopelessly clueless bear. You spent most of your time losing stratios in some forsaken corner of a chain rather then taking part in the group. Directors might take my stuff isn't a good reason to cripple ease of Corp role maintainance. An area of the game I might add you have zero experience in. Running/being a director in a wormhole Corp is a mostly thankless chore which drains away from time to enjoy the game. Lastly stfu with the calling out forsot. He may be allergic to uppercase letter F but the stuff your claiming knowledge and experience of happened far after you were removed from Corp/alliance. P.S. Your stratios is happier with us anyways. Public Channel \| Un.Welcome
Samsara Nolte Random Thinking Union Random Thinking 44	Posted - 2016.05.25 07:28:17 - [22] - Quote NoobMan wrote: I've thought and talked about this a lot. I really miss having all my ships in one SMA that ll of my Alts have access too. I wish we could take the new Access groups and make our own storage groups. But I don't think CCP would be keen on this idea, from a technical side of how items are owned and a weird shared ownership mine not jive with legacy code. From a game design IDK if this is what they want either. I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. This idea would be completely foreign for the rest of Eve but wormholers would likely really appreciate it. Now spend development time on a feature only a small part of Eve would use is a whole different story. I would love to hear others opinions on this topic and if there is a better solution! I-¦m with you here - Everybody living in wormhole space has more than one alt and having to dock to give a ship from one personal storage to another is a gonna be a major pain. It takes time - which in a lot of situation isn-¦t a vast resource. and through the need to dock you are giving intel away (the number of chars you have available) not mentioning the need to fly all the way back to your Zitadel from wherever you are at the moment and having every ship multiple times for every alt is quite an inconvenience the logistic alone for that is giving me nightmares. And complex Planetary Interaction setups over more than one character are gonna be major pain - having to circulate the goods between chars especially if Chars are on the same account. So acces groups managable by the owner of the storage is a necessity for wormhole-space ! I-¦m also a strong advocate for acces to all personal Hangar (Give and Take) for Director level Corp leadership. Personal Hangar prevent theft by other members but the corp assets need protection too. Some of us are heving huge stacks of corp owned ships for generall use of the members in their POS-¦es. At the moment a theif has to fly those ships assets out of your hole which takes time and furhtermore the absence of a Direktor or POS Manager - Under the Zitdel mechanic everybody with acces to corp assets can steal "in broad daylight" and you have no chance to get your assets back. They are in arms reach in the personal hangar of the thief but forever inaccesibel - we don-¦t even get the chance to shoot at him during transit. And even if we dont assume a thief is at work - how often have you misplaced something because you were under stress because there was somehting to kill or you were distracted by a TS conversation or the like. It can happen by accident that corp ships get thrown into the wrong hangar - is a corp now supposed to wait to get their Closing BS bak for example if a member screwed something like this up - might nit be a consideration if this member is active everyday - and as desirable as this would be - the reality is that even we wormhole corps have members that aren-¦t that often online - and having to wait weeks to get such an important ship like Closer BS back is an inconvenience. And here i haven-¦t even touched the matter of Billions of assets that might be left behind from people that quit eve - for whatever reason. We can-¦t bring those assets out without acces to the member hangars - and the prospect of such things laying indefinetly around in your Zitadell doesn-¦t seem desirabel for a lot of reasons especially for the smaller corps. And the reason mentionened agianst this - Because The Leadership of the Corp might steal from you as a member . If you have to fear that you are clearly in the wrong corp -and i-¦m honestly wondering how such a corp that steals form its members on a regular basis is able to preserve. I for one as a member would leave them in a heartbeat .
Jack Miton Anomalous Existence Low-Class 4887	Posted - 2016.05.26 01:20:59 - [23] - Quote NoobMan wrote: I've thought and talked about this a lot. I really miss having all my ships in one SMA that ll of my Alts have access too. I wish we could take the new Access groups and make our own storage groups. But I don't think CCP would be keen on this idea, from a technical side of how items are owned and a weird shared ownership mine not jive with legacy code. From a game design IDK if this is what they want either. I would be for something like an "Opt in" (kinda like high sec awox corp settings) for corps to allow directors to pull from personal item hangars/ SMAs. This idea would be completely foreign for the rest of Eve but wormholers would likely really appreciate it. Now spend development time on a feature only a small part of Eve would use is a whole different story. I would love to hear others opinions on this topic and if there is a better solution! this is something ive wanted for years in other aspects of eve life tbh. the best solution would be to allow people to setup custom groups that have access to shared assets. things like wallet, station hangars ect would just be shared with any characters you give access to a particular shared hangar/wallet no matter where you are docked. i suspect this would require a lot of underlying code change/enhancement but it would be excellent. There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Pretagos Omilas Arch Arsonists of EvE Another Really Stupid Enterprise 3	Posted - 2016.05.26 23:38:53 - [24] - Quote While I like the idea of setting up access groups for individual personal hangars, what stops you on using the rented offices corp hangars as you're using the SMA hangars of a POS right now? Having each one or more 'shared items' and 'shared ships' corp hangar? Also with your wasting time docking up problem... first of all: boo hoo; second: make save spot, warp to it and jettison the stuff you wanna move around.
Domin Ique Team Pizza Good at this Game 34	Posted - 2016.05.27 15:48:40 - [25] - Quote Some good ideas here. One thought I've had would be to increase the Corporation Divisions from 7 to ... infinite? Then you can assign each member (or multiple members) to a unique div. that only they can access. Then whether you're living in a citadel or a POS you and your alts have (secure) access to your div only. Some divs could be set to Director- only, public, etc.
Net7 Slackers with Questionable Tastes 1	Posted - 2016.06.11 22:53:05 - [26] - Quote holy **** on a shingle... Literally setup my first citadel yesterday, was looking for a shared hanger and item space... it doesn't exist... Guess POS's are only gone for large corps, smaller corps who have a shared ship hangar so anyone can use any (corp fit) ship they are capable and of course the corp hanger section for items like ammo, mods, ect that anyone can use... le sigh~ please fix CCP
unimatrix0030 Viperfleet Inc. Official Winners Of Takeshi's Castle 234	Posted - 2016.06.12 07:15:51 - [27] - Quote Net7 wrote: holy **** on a shingle... Literally setup my first citadel yesterday, was looking for a shared hanger and item space... it doesn't exist... Guess POS's are only gone for large corps, smaller corps who have a shared ship hangar so anyone can use any (corp fit) ship they are capable and of course the corp hanger section for items like ammo, mods, ect that anyone can use... le sigh~ please fix CCP Try opening a corp office and voila there it is. The hangers in the corp offices in citadels can have ships and items. It needs more features though and more spit and shine people are used to from stations. No local in null sec would fix everything!
Pretagos Omilas Arch Arsonists of EvE Another Really Stupid Enterprise 4	Posted - 2016.06.12 10:32:55 - [28] - Quote You have to "Rent an Office" and then you get the same crop hangars as in a station.
Kines Pavelovna Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels 5	Posted - 2016.06.24 01:21:35 - [29] - Quote Pretagos Omilas wrote: While I like the idea of setting up access groups for individual personal hangars, what stops you on using the rented offices corp hangars as you're using the SMA hangars of a POS right now? As long as everyone is in the same corp, nothing. Set the rental fee to zero. Rent the office. Set a hangers access to public. If I remember right this was analogous to how it worked in POS's since you couldn't have an out of corp alt access an SMA (Is this true? I don't fully recall) Once, or if, contracts are fixed in citadels moving things to out of corp alts shouldn't be THAT irritating.


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