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Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 7716	Posted - 2016.05.24 17:39:15 - [1] - Quote The Link. Quote: Before you say Eve Online has done it; donGÇÖt GÇô they havenGÇÖt. If youGÇÖre a programmer, go ahead and read up on the EO architecture (1, 2) GÇô which btw has been drastically improved upon over the years. That EO bespoke architecture was built from the ground up as part of the engine and for a specific game. A game thatGÇÖs not twitch-based or anywhere near the fidelity of the seamless architecture that Star Citizen is shooting for. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Indahmawar Fazmarai 5250	Posted - 2016.05.25 06:57:38 - [2] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: The Link. Quote: Before you say Eve Online has done it; donGÇÖt GÇô they havenGÇÖt. If youGÇÖre a programmer, go ahead and read up on the EO architecture (1, 2) GÇô which btw has been drastically improved upon over the years. That EO bespoke architecture was built from the ground up as part of the engine and for a specific game. A game thatGÇÖs not twitch-based or anywhere near the fidelity of the seamless architecture that Star Citizen is shooting for. 114 million $? They've raised 114 million $? Holy sh*t. Good that my wasted SC pledge went into the first 7 days, the first 4,000 contributors and the first 1,000,000 $ of this horrific trainwreck.
Gimme Sake State War Academy Caldari State 324	Posted - 2016.05.25 11:20:41 - [3] - Quote Can I double your twitch-based seamless architecture. "Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Indahmawar Fazmarai 5251	Posted - 2016.05.25 12:05:10 - [4] - Quote Gimme Sake wrote: Can I double your twitch-based seamless architecture. ...on cloud servers.
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2515	Posted - 2016.05.25 18:54:04 - [5] - Quote What's a "twitch-based seamless architecture"? I'm my own NPC alt.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 7718	Posted - 2016.05.25 20:23:12 - [6] - Quote Tipa Riot wrote: What's a "twitch-based seamless architecture"? It's what you need Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 15988	Posted - 2016.05.25 20:25:13 - [7] - Quote the blog post wrote: the Evocati part is basically just another PTU, but with an NDA -snip- they started allowing paid ($10 per month) channel subscribers access to it as well; thus leaving out a swath of backers with no access to a game theyGÇÖve already paid for. Evocati being their sisi ... what the everlivingfuck Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 7718	Posted - 2016.05.25 20:41:16 - [8] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: the blog post wrote: the Evocati part is basically just another PTU, but with an NDA -snip- they started allowing paid ($10 per month) channel subscribers access to it as well; thus leaving out a swath of backers with no access to a game theyGÇÖve already paid for. Evocati being their sisi ... what the everlivingfuck I just thought the WoW movie trailer was a game trailer. It's becoming one of those days. Maybe everything is going to collapse into one big singularity and we'll all spend years waiting for a game where we launch dwarves from space ships while watching movies about it and cloud computing seamless all that crap Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Gimme Sake State War Academy Caldari State 331	Posted - 2016.05.26 11:14:36 - [9] - Quote Tipa Riot wrote: What's a "twitch-based seamless architecture"? Your wallet. "Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2520	Posted - 2016.05.27 07:54:17 - [10] - Quote Gimme Sake wrote: Tipa Riot wrote: What's a "twitch-based seamless architecture"? Your wallet. Read the blogs ... OMFG Was not following anymore, had already written off my 60$ backer fund ... BUT without SC and E:D I probably wouldn't play EvE today, so yeah it was worth it. I'm my own NPC alt.

Ka Plaa Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning 297	Posted - 2016.05.29 18:46:47 - [11] - Quote Reading that article makes me want to hug EvE Online. EvE has it's issues and frustrations with the dev company, certainly, but in comparison?...hugs EvE "The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
Indahmawar Fazmarai 5269	Posted - 2016.05.29 20:57:44 - [12] - Quote Ka Plaa wrote: Reading that article makes me want to hug EvE Online. EvE has it's issues and frustrations with the dev company, certainly, but in comparison?...hugs EvE Well, SC can't be compared to anything. It's in its own league as a unprecedented disastrous enterprise.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26183	Posted - 2016.05.30 00:30:21 - [13] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: The Link. The popcorn Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Snagletooth Scott The Scope Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2016.05.30 02:52:49 - [14] - Quote Hahahahahahaha Dereck Smart Hahahahahahaha Dereck...heheh...Dereck Smart is soo biased against CR he makes MSNBC look truly partisan You might as well be linking Ken Ham about Evolution. Hahahahahaha You guys must truly be afraid of might happen to SC if you are lowering yourselves to quoting Dereck...really really afraid.
Indahmawar Fazmarai 5272	Posted - 2016.05.30 06:39:45 - [15] - Quote Snagletooth Scott wrote: Hahahahahahaha Dereck Smart Hahahahahahaha Dereck...heheh...Dereck Smart is soo biased against CR he makes MSNBC look truly partisan You might as well be linking Ken Ham about Evolution. Hahahahahaha You guys must truly be afraid of what might happen to Eve if you are lowering yourselves to quoting Dereck about SC...really really afraid. Please show us that game that looks as the fruit of 114 million $ and 3 and half years of work. Or as the game I backed up, the one that would cost 10-15 milion $ and I'd be playing for the last 19 months after being released in November 2014. We know that DS is DS. But then, even DS delivers something, and does it on his money... quite unlike Chis Roberts. PS: The best part I got from backing SC in October 2012 was the tip that E:D was being developed. I sitll haven't played E:D but I'm ready to join it when it reaches the point I wish (avatar content)...
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 11361	Posted - 2016.05.30 19:06:59 - [16] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Snagletooth Scott wrote: Hahahahahahaha Dereck Smart Hahahahahahaha Dereck...heheh...Dereck Smart is soo biased against CR he makes MSNBC look truly partisan You might as well be linking Ken Ham about Evolution. Hahahahahaha You guys must truly be afraid of what might happen to Eve if you are lowering yourselves to quoting Dereck about SC...really really afraid. Please show us that game that looks as the fruit of 114 million $ and 3 and half years of work. Or as the game I backed up, the one that would cost 10-15 milion $ and I'd be playing for the last 19 months after being released in November 2014. We know that DS is DS. But then, even DS delivers something, and does it on his money... quite unlike Chis Roberts. PS: The best part I got from backing SC in October 2012 was the tip that E:D was being developed. I sitll haven't played E:D but I'm ready to join it when it reaches the point I wish (avatar content)... You will be able to create character and pilot ships with others few updates ahead. Meanwhile you can watch trailer for Engineers update. ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ =ƒÅ¦ - my sandcastle Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Planetary Interaction 2.1
Indahmawar Fazmarai 5281	Posted - 2016.05.30 19:58:01 - [17] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Snagletooth Scott wrote: Hahahahahahaha Dereck Smart Hahahahahahaha Dereck...heheh...Dereck Smart is soo biased against CR he makes MSNBC look truly partisan You might as well be linking Ken Ham about Evolution. Hahahahahaha You guys must truly be afraid of what might happen to Eve if you are lowering yourselves to quoting Dereck about SC...really really afraid. Please show us that game that looks as the fruit of 114 million $ and 3 and half years of work. Or as the game I backed up, the one that would cost 10-15 milion $ and I'd be playing for the last 19 months after being released in November 2014. We know that DS is DS. But then, even DS delivers something, and does it on his money... quite unlike Chis Roberts. PS: The best part I got from backing SC in October 2012 was the tip that E:D was being developed. I sitll haven't played E:D but I'm ready to join it when it reaches the point I wish (avatar content)... You will be able to create character and pilot ships with others few updates ahead. Meanwhile you can watch trailer for Engineers update. Yes, I know. I guess we won't get other clothes than the ugly spacesuit, but will be interesting if they let customize the... huh... curved surfaces of (f) commanders.
Snagletooth Scott The Scope Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2016.05.30 21:50:35 - [18] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Snagletooth Scott wrote: Hahahahahahaha Dereck Smart Hahahahahahaha Dereck...heheh...Dereck Smart is soo biased against CR he makes MSNBC look truly partisan You might as well be linking Ken Ham about Evolution. Hahahahahaha You guys must truly be afraid of what might happen to Eve if you are lowering yourselves to quoting Dereck about SC...really really afraid. Please show us that game that looks as the fruit of 114 million $ and 3 and half years of work. Or as the game I backed up, the one that would cost 10-15 milion $ and I'd be playing for the last 19 months after being released in November 2014. We know that DS is DS. But then, even DS delivers something, and does it on his money... quite unlike Chis Roberts. PS: The best part I got from backing SC in October 2012 was the tip that E:D was being developed. I sitll haven't played E:D but I'm ready to join it when it reaches the point I wish (avatar content)... The first iteration of persitstence just went in as is getting tested and debugged as we speak. SQ42 just wrapped up MoCap reshoots and most if not all the art is done. All they need to do is put it togther and start internal testing. Ship pipeline for most manufacturers are done and ships are coming online pretty fast. economy is in, although not fully fledge out, but it is in. Especially when you consider they started from scratch, as where established companies already have most of their basic assets and tools already in place, they are ahead of schedule for what they making if someone else like EA or Sony tried to do this. DS delivers ** on a platter, then claims someone stole his ideas to divert the fact the platter is **. He bans tester who find major bugs. He's being sued for slander. He has a personal vendaetta against Chris. You follow anything he has to say, you are only fostering your ignorance. ignorance is never an excuse.
Ka Plaa Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning 316	Posted - 2016.05.31 00:06:04 - [19] - Quote We are almost to the gold land! It is just a little further! We are almost to the gold land! It is just a little further! We are almost to the gold land! It is just a little further! We are almost to the gold land! It is just a little further! We are almost to the gold land! It is just a little further! 5 years 114 million dollars... I'm just glad I only bought the basic starter pack and didn't waste much more money. People can keep sinking their money and mental state into that black hole if they wish...but I considered my money gone and stopped paying attention to the whole mess long ago. It's not what one person says...the facts speak for themselves... but w/e, gl with all that. I'm off to enjoy EvE such as people have been able to do for many years now. 0/ "The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
Arkady Vachon Aliastra Gallente Federation 1418	Posted - 2016.06.01 07:38:22 - [20] - Quote I always take a wait and see attitude on things before I buy into, or back, them. (except for the new second edition of the 7th Sea tabletop RPG, I DID back that...lol..) Quite glad I didn't initially back Star Citizen, all I have is a forum account, also under the name Vachon, on there. The way things are going from what I have read and watched it is looking highly unlikely that I ever will back them. But, like any right minded EVE player should think, if they ever come out with this game, then I want the following to happen on launch day. That Chris Roberts comes out like Garriott did in UO (coming out as Lord British in his day) to parade triumphantly in his brand new game.... And then enterprising players (most likely from EVE) find a way to blow him out of the sky, or kamikaze him. Nothing Personal - Just Business... Chaos Creates Content

Varcutii Renalard 5	Posted - 2016.06.01 17:51:12 - [21] - Quote So. Basically. ... This SC game... thing, ... makes CQ and the Incarna release hype a total and complete success story. Amazing!
DaReaper Net 7 Cannon.Fodder 2848	Posted - 2016.06.02 18:08:12 - [22] - Quote Snagletooth Scott wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Snagletooth Scott wrote: Hahahahahahaha Dereck Smart Hahahahahahaha Dereck...heheh...Dereck Smart is soo biased against CR he makes MSNBC look truly partisan You might as well be linking Ken Ham about Evolution. Hahahahahaha You guys must truly be afraid of what might happen to Eve if you are lowering yourselves to quoting Dereck about SC...really really afraid. Please show us that game that looks as the fruit of 114 million $ and 3 and half years of work. Or as the game I backed up, the one that would cost 10-15 milion $ and I'd be playing for the last 19 months after being released in November 2014. We know that DS is DS. But then, even DS delivers something, and does it on his money... quite unlike Chis Roberts. PS: The best part I got from backing SC in October 2012 was the tip that E:D was being developed. I sitll haven't played E:D but I'm ready to join it when it reaches the point I wish (avatar content)... The first iteration of persitstence just went in as is getting tested and debugged as we speak. SQ42 just wrapped up MoCap reshoots and most if not all the art is done. All they need to do is put it togther and start internal testing. Ship pipeline for most manufacturers are done and ships are coming online pretty fast. economy is in, although not fully fledge out, but it is in. Especially when you consider they started from scratch, as where established companies already have most of their basic assets and tools already in place, they are ahead of schedule for what they making if someone else like EA or Sony tried to do this. DS delivers ** on a platter, then claims someone stole his ideas to divert the fact the platter is . He bans tester who find major bugs. He's being sued for slander. He has a personal vendaetta against Chris. You follow anything he has to say, you are only fostering your ignorance. ignorance is never an excuse. I'll merely say we will see. The videos i have seen show SC as a complete train wreck of epic proportions. How much have you sunk into it exactly? And the little footage of SQ42 looks like **. Like it should of come out on PS1. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
Ka Plaa Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning 319	Posted - 2016.06.02 18:37:44 - [23] - Quote Snagletooth Scott wrote: ... The first iteration of persitstence just went in as is getting tested and debugged as we speak. SQ42 just wrapped up MoCap reshoots and most if not all the art is done. All they need to do is put it togther and start internal testing. Ship pipeline for most manufacturers are done and ships are coming online pretty fast. economy is in, although not fully fledge out, but it is in. Especially when you consider they started from scratch, as where established companies already have most of their basic assets and tools already in place, they are ahead of schedule for what they making if someone else like EA or Sony tried to do this. ... GÖ½GÖ¬ don't stop, believin', hold on to that lovin' feelin GÖ¬GÖ½ "The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
DaReaper Net 7 Cannon.Fodder 2849	Posted - 2016.06.02 18:53:48 - [24] - Quote Gonna go very slightly off topic. With E:D and SC (which will NEVER come out) and other space mmo's doing avatar play, ccp should REALLY take a second look at walking in stations. But anyway OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 7753	Posted - 2016.06.02 19:40:39 - [25] - Quote DaReaper wrote: Gonna go very slightly off topic. With E:D and SC (which will NEVER come out) and other space mmo's doing avatar play, ccp should REALLY take a second look at walking in stations. But anyway I'm having a Toecutter moment: "But we're going to teach him, Bubba!" (First Mad Max film) Two things have to happen. First, the min/max sperging must be dealt with. That is, that crowd to whom anything that is not directly by, of, for, related to, increasing, improving, addressing, and coddling the "Muh ISK" or "Muh stats" must be ignored when they come in swarms to scream and cry about anything not related to their obsession. Where it up to them the game would be nothing but mining lasers and gate camps. Second, if CCP just makes WiS a useless content thing, then the Muh ISK/stats crowd ends up getting proven right. So they can't just "open the door", there needs to be a reason for it, like smuggling, crime, reasons not to be in the capsule where every move is tracked and traced, etc. How and why? I have no idea. Imagine if leaving the capsule made you disappear from local. Imagine if in order to sell illegal boosters you have to go "downstairs" to the darker levels of a station. A corporation hootch where you can put corpses in huge glass tubes (people you have taken a mild disagreement with, perhaps?) would also be the ticket. I would also, were it up to meGäó, make "avatar play" free to play, locking down PLEX/Sub to "strictly pilots license" and go with MT for station-side stuff. But ultimately: fighting in stations. Guns. When do we get guns? It's not a video game without guns. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Jenn aSide Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore 14166	Posted - 2016.06.03 12:44:50 - [26] - Quote After years of the existence of Star Trek Online (which has this all important "avatar play"), you'd think it would be understood that EVE is fine without 'avatar gameplay'. Not only would it not add anything vital to the game, it would might even detract from it (meaning fewer people in space interacting, in a game whose virtual economy is tied to people expending things in space). What CCP is actually doing (making separate games to cater to different play styles/cultures) is the smartest things they ever did. I know people have this utopians dream of an all encompassing "EVERYGAME" all-in-one universe, but such a game needs to be built from the ground up with those ideas in mind. Trying to 're-jigger' a spaceship game that only barely does spaceships (EVE ships aren't ships, they are just spheres with omnidirectional weapons and skins that look like space ships lol) to have avatar gameplay (and atmospheric flight and real 'planetary interaction') was a foolish pursuit, and I'm glad CCP isn't doing that anymore. Notice how they've even stopped talking about being able to target and shoot at different sections of a ship....it's because they have no sections, it's a sphere... Opposition to these unrealistic ideas has nothing to do with min/maxing. It's just that some of us LIKE that EVE is focused on what it does well, instead of trying to be some sloppy hodge-podge of everything like all these other games do (think STO again). Games they try to please everyone, and try to 'include' everyone, well, those games suck, and I for one would rather not see EVE suck. 5 years and 114 million bucks and Cloud Imperium can't deliver even after having the advantage of building their game from whole cloth, what makes any of you think CCP could while using this old game as a platform? Did you all miss the past debacles of WoD and DUST?
DaReaper Net 7 Cannon.Fodder 2849	Posted - 2016.06.03 16:36:12 - [27] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: After years of the existence of Star Trek Online (which has this all important "avatar play"), you'd think it would be understood that EVE is fine without 'avatar gameplay'. Not only would it not add anything vital to the game, it would might even detract from it (meaning fewer people in space interacting, in a game whose virtual economy is tied to people expending things in space). What CCP is actually doing (making separate games to cater to different play styles/cultures) is the smartest things they ever did. I know people have this utopians dream of an all encompassing "EVERYGAME" all-in-one universe, but such a game needs to be built from the ground up with those ideas in mind. Trying to 're-jigger' a spaceship game that only barely does spaceships (EVE ships aren't ships, they are just spheres with omnidirectional weapons and skins that look like space ships lol) to have avatar gameplay (and atmospheric flight and real 'planetary interaction') was a foolish pursuit, and I'm glad CCP isn't doing that anymore. Notice how they've even stopped talking about being able to target and shoot at different sections of a ship....it's because they have no sections, it's a sphere... Opposition to these unrealistic ideas has nothing to do with min/maxing. It's just that some of us LIKE that EVE is focused on what it does well, instead of trying to be some sloppy hodge-podge of everything like all these other games do (think STO again). Games they try to please everyone, and try to 'include' everyone, well, those games suck, and I for one would rather not see EVE suck. 5 years and 114 million bucks and Cloud Imperium can't deliver even after having the advantage of building their game from whole cloth, what makes any of you think CCP could while using this old game as a platform? Did you all miss the past debacles of WoD and DUST? oh i don;t disagree with you. i'm just saying, avatar play could be fun. eve doens't lose much though without it. and if Nova becomes a good thing, then it will even out. i still want the 2014 vision though. but back on topic. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
NeoShocker Oppose Militancy and Neutralize Invasion. Exodus. 225	Posted - 2016.06.14 07:46:31 - [28] - Quote I'll say it again, from what I stated 8 years ago (now 10 years of eve). "No game will ever compete with Eve-Online for a few years." Been more than a "few" years and Eve-Online is still the most unique game. Single server? check (well, ok, there is Serenity ...). Scam, steal, espionage, and other "illegal" or "bad" activities that is allowed? Check. Sandbox? Check. Graphics shiny updates? Super check. I don't really see any game that does those four features at the same time. Developing a game is not easy at all, so I kinda feel for SC Devs, but I do want it to fail so I can laugh at the backers with passion. The only thing I ever backed was Mighty Man no 9. I am glad that is going to be released very soon!
Captain Tardbar Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 1146	Posted - 2016.06.15 06:06:25 - [29] - Quote Eh. SC 2.4 now has persistence. Still a long way off, but I suppose they will get there eventually. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.
Dornier Pfeil Caldari Provisions Caldari State 7	Posted - 2016.06.20 14:51:19 - [30] - Quote I like that EvE O is not twitch based. Being the captain of a starship is more interesting than being the pilot of a starfighter. If anything I wish there were more bridge style commands possible for the UI. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: The Link. Quote: Before you say Eve Online has done it; donGÇÖt GÇô they havenGÇÖt. If youGÇÖre a programmer, go ahead and read up on the EO architecture (1, 2) GÇô which btw has been drastically improved upon over the years. That EO bespoke architecture was built from the ground up as part of the engine and for a specific game. A game thatGÇÖs not twitch-based or anywhere near the fidelity of the seamless architecture that Star Citizen is shooting for.

Nana Skalski Poseidaon 12719	Posted - 2016.06.20 16:26:40 - [31] - Quote I have not backed it. One thing I see there I would like to have in EVE, avatar exploration. But the rest with things you can do in space, spaceships and industy is not I am fond of actually. I think EVE got all of it right. I give you ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ Boarding bays Gÿá Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Hikenian Isu State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.06.24 12:57:13 - [32] - Quote So by my best guesses, walking in stations was less vapourware than this. Hmm I think if SC fails then lynching's may probably return for a while.,
Rovinia Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE 521	Posted - 2016.06.25 15:18:15 - [33] - Quote Tipa Riot wrote: What's a "twitch-based seamless architecture"? Reminds me somehow of "Blast processing"
Varcutii Renalard 39	Posted - 2016.07.06 22:45:29 - [34] - Quote Captain Tardbar wrote: " eventually." Is that like, SC's version of "Soon" ?
Captain Tardbar Sunken Ships Rage Rollers 1157	Posted - 2016.07.09 03:45:53 - [35] - Quote For a scam they pay way too many programmers.... http://imgur.com/a/0pEmV "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.
Captain Tardbar Sunken Ships Rage Rollers 1157	Posted - 2016.07.10 05:05:21 - [36] - Quote I had a blast tonight in SC with my org. We were doing the ICC Array story line. Almost got through it too. Did some FPS with a StarFarer. It was rather swifty seeing all the heavily equipped soliders burst through the air lock taking causalities and killing enemies taking over the Koreah station in order to capture the whisky. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.
Robby Rova Rova Capital 5	Posted - 2016.07.14 19:09:19 - [37] - Quote Apparently, day one backs are eligible for a refund if they're unhappy with the current state of development. Check it: http://www.pcgamesn.com/star-citizen/star-citizen-refunds-ftc I see a class action incoming.
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 13772	Posted - 2016.07.20 06:05:06 - [38] - Quote I have heard SC will support DX12 and Vulcan, rewritten from DX11. Of course nearly everyone is exctatic about that there. Nothing can bring them down.... misjudging their own strenths is a way to fail. http://askagamedev.tumblr.com/post/147346281049/hello-very-cool-blog-do-you-think-crowdfunding I give you ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ Boarding bays Gÿá Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
KaarBaak Squirrel Team 383	Posted - 2016.07.27 21:55:44 - [39] - Quote Captain Tardbar wrote: For a [strike]scam[/strike] game that has been in production for as long as SC has and spent the amount of money they have spent they pay way too many programmers.... http://imgur.com/a/0pEmV Dum Spiro Spero
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1819	Posted - 2016.07.30 06:13:59 - [40] - Quote I heard SC will resurrect Jesus and make baby kittens cry. Also, posting in a DEREK SMART THREAD before the lock. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Jacques d'Orleans Die KInder von Midgar 2806	Posted - 2016.08.10 04:33:46 - [41] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: 114 million $? They've raised 114 million $? Holy sh*t. Good that my wasted SC pledge went into the first 7 days, the first 4,000 contributors and the first 1,000,000 $ of this horrific trainwreck. As of today it's actually 118,120,790 $. The beginning of the End Never drink anything that only gets a lukewarm recommendation from an Australian infantryman!
Jacques d'Orleans Die KInder von Midgar 2806	Posted - 2016.08.10 04:48:18 - [42] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: I heard SC will resurrect Jesus and make baby kittens cry. Also, posting in a DEREK SMART THREAD before the lock. Yeah, good ole Derek Smart, this name still makes me cringe in excruciating levels, as i was one of those idiots who bought his Battlecruiser 3000AD back then. The beginning of the End Never drink anything that only gets a lukewarm recommendation from an Australian infantryman!
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 14610	Posted - 2016.08.20 18:00:04 - [43] - Quote Watching recent Gamescon presentation I was thinking all these people that were reimbursed may want to come back to SC. Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him.
Commissar Kate NulzSec 406728	Posted - 2016.08.20 21:33:40 - [44] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: Watching recent Gamescom presentation I was thinking all these people that were refunded may want to come back to SC. Too bad it's janky as hell when you play it and they still only have *ONE* partially finished system out of 100. -k8 My Fanclub
Khergit Deserters Crom's Angels 4614	Posted - 2016.08.21 14:58:05 - [45] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: 114 million $? They've raised 114 million $? Holy sh*t. Good that my wasted SC pledge went into the first 7 days, the first 4,000 contributors and the first 1,000,000 $ of this horrific trainwreck. As of today it's actually 118,120,790 $. $118 mil voluntarily coughed up by people who want to play a game someday.... Just goes to show, the real world actually did end on December 21, 2012. Start the bubble machine! -Lawrence Welk
Commissar Kate NulzSec 406738	Posted - 2016.08.21 21:51:52 - [46] - Quote Khergit Deserters wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: 114 million $? They've raised 114 million $? Holy sh*t. Good that my wasted SC pledge went into the first 7 days, the first 4,000 contributors and the first 1,000,000 $ of this horrific trainwreck. As of today it's actually 118,120,790 $. $118 mil voluntarily coughed up by people who want to play a game someday.... Just goes to show, the real world actually did end on December 21, 2012. I think CR would have been better off starting a TV mega church, at least the money would be tax free and he could get away with the scam for sure. -k8 My Fanclub
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 14624	Posted - 2016.08.21 23:01:26 - [47] - Quote But there are more important things than money. Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him.
Heinrich Harkkon State War Academy Caldari State 7	Posted - 2016.09.11 02:18:07 - [48] - Quote Haha, any time someone gets frustrated with EVE/CCP, take a few minutes to read up on the history of SC. It really does put things into perspective and gives you a newfound sense of gratitude. "...The perfect organism. Its structural perfection is only matched by its hostility...I admire its purity. A survivor. Unclouded by conscience, remorse...or delusions of morality."
Jenn aSide Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore 14672	Posted - 2016.09.12 13:14:41 - [49] - Quote Khergit Deserters wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: 114 million $? They've raised 114 million $? Holy sh*t. Good that my wasted SC pledge went into the first 7 days, the first 4,000 contributors and the first 1,000,000 $ of this horrific trainwreck. As of today it's actually 118,120,790 $. $118 mil voluntarily coughed up by people who want to play a game someday.... Just goes to show, the real world actually did end on December 21, 2012. +1. People have a hard time generating that kind of money for actual real life causes, but a video game does so easily.
Commissar Kate NulzSec 406945	Posted - 2016.09.12 13:31:43 - [50] - Quote https://youtu.be/Qf6MSKdhzhg -k8 My Fanclub

Nana Skalski Poseidaon 15723	Posted - 2016.09.12 13:50:31 - [51] - Quote Maybe egoism and need for entertainment is somewhat stronger than altruism and need for a help to remote people, not related to you. And that it is prevalent in general population. Also its merketing of a strongly visual medium, you can show progress, you can show people things that they want. All of this versus an empathic feeling of help towards a remote group of people, coupled with a fad of turning a bucket of icy water on someone. I dont know how science could treat something like that. These SC backers fund a project with the prospect of actually getting something in return. With charity there is this issue, that you can feel better for a moment, and then, well, after a while its gone, the money is gone, people you helped are gone. But software you could use for yourself, and have a fun time. It means you pay for entertainment. Always where someone posts before me, before I press POST myself, I get the "We were Ganked" message from forum... Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him. GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Absolute Intoleranto State Protectorate Caldari State 9	Posted - 2016.09.13 17:06:26 - [52] - Quote Khergit Deserters wrote: $118 mil voluntarily coughed up by people who want to play a game someday.... Just goes to show, the real world actually did end on December 21, 2012. Something that made me think too. There are lot of calls for donations for good and important reasons. Yet the amount of money they get is pathetic. Now one guy wants to create a game and people are throwing money at him like crazy. I do not blame Roberts for that, but the people who throw the money at him and even fell proud about that. That makes me sick and do not want to play with this kind of people. Commissar Kate wrote: I think CR would have been better off starting a TV mega church, at least the money would be tax free and he could get away with the scam for sure. Calling this game a scam is just a poor behaviour.
Giaus Felix Hedion University Amarr Empire 222	Posted - 2016.09.13 17:33:48 - [53] - Quote Absolute Intoleranto wrote: Khergit Deserters wrote: $118 mil voluntarily coughed up by people who want to play a game someday.... Just goes to show, the real world actually did end on December 21, 2012. Something that made me think too. There are lot of calls for donations for good and important reasons. Yet the amount of money they get is pathetic. Now one guy wants to create a game and people are throwing money at him like crazy. I do not blame Roberts for that, but the people who throw the money at him and even fell proud about that. That makes me sick and do not want to play with this kind of people. Commissar Kate wrote: I think CR would have been better off starting a TV mega church, at least the money would be tax free and he could get away with the scam for sure. Calling this game a scam is just a poor behaviour. Calling it a game is pretty naive TBH, all most people have seen is a slick marketing campaign and a really shoddy demo. I am Ralph's junk DNA.
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 15779	Posted - 2016.09.13 17:51:49 - [54] - Quote Its still alpha. Incomplete alpha. Whatever are your feelings about it. Years before, I have seen games in alpha stage, nonplayable, but you could have get it from some shady sources. Usually russians. I remember one of Hitman games where barely few things worked consistently good. Such are alphas. And its really early for such a game to be called even partially finished. Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him. GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Commissar Kate NulzSec 406966	Posted - 2016.09.13 17:51:50 - [55] - Quote Absolute Intoleranto wrote: Commissar Kate wrote: I think CR would have been better off starting a TV mega church, at least the money would be tax free and he could get away with the scam for sure. Calling this game a scam is just a poor behaviour. Well then what is it? I gave them $60 during the initial kickstarter 4 years ago and all I got so far is a buggy bare bones tech demo that has a long way to go before I'd call it a game. I'm sure CR ment well and really thought he could pull it off but so far I'm not impressed with the way the project has been managed. Not to mention the rabid fanbase that demonizes anyone for bringing up any criticism of the game. -k8 My Fanclub
Absolute Intoleranto State Protectorate Caldari State 11	Posted - 2016.09.15 07:35:26 - [56] - Quote Giaus Felix wrote: Calling it a game is pretty naive TBH, all most people have seen is a slick marketing campaign and a really shoddy demo. Than Dust 514 probably would be the crime of the year. <---- Kidding... SC is not out yet. Not so long ago they released a presentation from their alpha 3.0. Nana Skalski wrote: Its still alpha. Incomplete alpha. Whatever are your feelings about it. Years before, I have seen games in alpha stage, nonplayable, but you could get them from some shady sources. Usually russians. I remember one of Hitman games where barely few things worked consistently good. Such are alphas. And its really early for such a game to be called even partially finished. You are acting as someone did call it finished. Nobody did that and it is not finished. Thats why it is not out yet. Commissar Kate wrote: Well then what is it? Work in progress. Commissar Kate wrote: I gave them $60 during the initial kickstarter 4 years ago and all I got so far is a buggy bare bones tech demo that has a long way to go before I'd call it a game. See thats the problem with kickstarter. There is no guarantee that you will receive the product. Since they are still working on the game you can not call this a scam. Even if he fails to deliver. The only project I have backed was that book about EVE Online by Andrew Groen and it is great! Commissar Kate wrote: I'm sure CR ment well and really thought he could pull it off but so far I'm not impressed with the way the project has been managed. Not to mention the rabid fanbase that demonizes anyone for bringing up any criticism of the game. Roberts once failed with a similar project due to mismanagement (because of similar reasons). Do not forget that a big chunk of their money is already invested in the game. Its not that they are sitting on 100 million all along. Chances are good that he will fail again or not. Why do not we take a step back and let time pass and the situation progress? Why is it so important to discredit this guy and the game? Are you that afraid of SC hurting EVE? They have lots of butthurt EVE haters on their forums, please do not be that childish and respond the same way. Let them be childish, let them be jealous of EVE Online, let them be full of hate and do not act like them! Enjoy your life! And try to enjoy EVE. Thats why we are here, right? Right.
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 15921	Posted - 2016.09.15 08:00:13 - [57] - Quote Quote: You are acting as someone did call it finished. I am only cooling the heads. With current speed, their development will take few years more. But I have said that same thing few years ago. So we dont really know... Until the money on account will be gone, for sure. Then the game will be finished for sure. Whatever the meaning is. Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him. GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Kaaeliaa Tyrathlion Interstellar Rote Kapelle 95682	Posted - 2016.09.16 14:31:34 - [58] - Quote Kickstarter's terms of service were changed recently, to explicitly avoid the kind of thing that CIG and most of these Kickstarters have been doing, which is to get risk- and accountability-free investment money. Cry havoc, and let slip the d¦¦o¦¦g¦¦s¦¦ ¦¦o¦¦f¦¦ ¦¦w¦¦a¦¦r¦¦ lawyers!
Rain6637 NulzSec 34228	Posted - 2016.09.17 07:20:02 - [59] - Quote Holy **** that article I want to see SC succeed just so Derek Smart will shut up Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Commissar Kate NulzSec 407120	Posted - 2016.09.17 12:57:21 - [60] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Holy **** that article I want to see SC succeed just so Derek Smart will shut up Yes he's a loudmouth but the possibility of him being correct is equally amusing. -k8 My Fanclub

Rain6637 NulzSec 34229	Posted - 2016.09.17 16:45:09 - [61] - Quote Commissar Kate wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Holy **** that article I want to see SC succeed just so Derek Smart will shut up Yes he's a loudmouth but the possibility of him being correct is equally amusing. He's assembled such a thorough laundry list of talking points that if you filter the spin it's actually a nice update of how SC is coming along. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26854	Posted - 2016.09.17 16:59:46 - [62] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Commissar Kate wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Holy **** that article I want to see SC succeed just so Derek Smart will shut up Yes he's a loudmouth but the possibility of him being correct is equally amusing. He's assembled such a thorough laundry list of talking points that if you filter the spin it's actually a nice update of how SC is coming along. Or not, as the case might be. It'll be interesting to see how it eventually plays out, although if it ever gets to RTM I doubt it'll be everything that has been promised. Civilised behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Rain6637 NulzSec 34231	Posted - 2016.09.18 19:22:20 - [63] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Commissar Kate wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Holy **** that article I want to see SC succeed just so Derek Smart will shut up Yes he's a loudmouth but the possibility of him being correct is equally amusing. He's assembled such a thorough laundry list of talking points that if you filter the spin it's actually a nice update of how SC is coming along. Or not, as the case might be. It'll be interesting to see how it eventually plays out, although if it ever gets to RTM I doubt it'll be everything that has been promised. yeah see that's the nature of spin. There's the thing that happened in reality, and then there's how you think it should be interpreted. I see a lot of gameplay in those videos, and through the course of Derek Smart's tirade I found myself wondering why he cares so much. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Rain6637 NulzSec 34231	Posted - 2016.09.18 19:24:41 - [64] - Quote Do you also watch Maury or Dr Phil and Daytime Soaps Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 16045	Posted - 2016.09.18 20:40:32 - [65] - Quote Maybe Derek Smart is jelly. Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him. GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26865	Posted - 2016.09.18 21:24:42 - [66] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Commissar Kate wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Holy **** that article I want to see SC succeed just so Derek Smart will shut up Yes he's a loudmouth but the possibility of him being correct is equally amusing. He's assembled such a thorough laundry list of talking points that if you filter the spin it's actually a nice update of how SC is coming along. Or not, as the case might be. It'll be interesting to see how it eventually plays out, although if it ever gets to RTM I doubt it'll be everything that has been promised. yeah see that's the nature of spin. There's the thing that happened in reality, and then there's how you think it should be interpreted. I see a lot of gameplay in those videos, and through the course of Derek Smart's tirade I found myself wondering why he cares so much. Heh don't get me wrong I'd love to see them succeed and wasted many an hour in my youth on Wing Commander and Freelancer (unfortunately the latter wasn't everything it promised to be but was still enjoyable); but at this stage, with 4 years of development under the table, it appears that their ambition may have exceeded realistic expectations and available talent. Civilised behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. New Player FAQ Feyd's Survival Pack
Commissar Kate NulzSec 407147	Posted - 2016.09.18 21:57:23 - [67] - Quote Hey, on the bright side when SC does come out it should be easy to run it at max graphics with the hardware that's out when its finally completed. -k8 My Fanclub
Rain6637 NulzSec 34232	Posted - 2016.09.18 21:58:57 - [68] - Quote Holy hell it's been four years Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Commissar Kate NulzSec 407147	Posted - 2016.09.18 22:03:07 - [69] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Holy hell it's been four years Yep, 4 years since the initial kickstarter. -k8 My Fanclub
Rain6637 NulzSec 34232	Posted - 2016.09.18 22:10:44 - [70] - Quote Hey Chris, Imagine Gäó is trademarked fyi you owe royalties Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)

Mikkhi Kisht Vanity Thy Name Is 11	Posted - 2016.09.29 08:17:33 - [71] - Quote Hmm. Four years ago I was very much in my rut of 'I don't space game, I don't future space game, and math with spreadsheets gives me hives' mentality. So never did toss any cash into the SC drive(s). But reading about SC did one sorta good thing. Convinced me to finally give Eve a serious try. So +1 for game comparison meta recruitment tactics? >Mikk
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 16792	Posted - 2016.09.29 08:35:05 - [72] - Quote I like their planet technology so much... If they would give people some creator tools, I will be there building my space castle. Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him. GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Mishra San 974	Posted - 2016.10.07 12:53:37 - [73] - Quote Came in thinking this was about South Carolina, left confused. sending virtual hug, virtual hug sent!
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 17746	Posted - 2016.10.10 13:45:25 - [74] - Quote When I was talking about building castles in SC, I was thinking just about that. Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him. GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Rain6637 NulzSec 34283	Posted - 2016.10.15 09:00:30 - [75] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P23KEtltcDc aw shucks that smarts smarts ha that's a derk smart pun Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Commissar Kate NulzSec 407554	Posted - 2016.10.15 14:15:23 - [76] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: I like their planet technology so much... If they would give people some creator tools, I will be there building my space castle. Their barren planets look much better than Elites right now IMO, although we have yet to see a planet in Elite with atmosphere and the atmospheric scattering that comes with it. -k8 My Fanclub
Rain6637 NulzSec 34323	Posted - 2016.10.27 11:24:58 - [77] - Quote Here's some perspective. SC is four years in, which is a third of the number of years EVE has been around. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Nana Skalski Taisaanat Kotei 18470	Posted - 2016.10.27 16:08:52 - [78] - Quote But times were diferent 13 years ago. How this stuff evolves is completely astonishing. Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him. GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Slade Trillgon Brutor Force Federated 3213	Posted - 2016.10.31 02:38:03 - [79] - Quote Captain Tardbar wrote: For a scam they pay way too many programmers.... http://imgur.com/a/0pEmV I say the following as I am interpreting your post as if you are saying that SC is not a scam because they are paying so many people legitimately. What you said is what people think about money handlers like Bernie Madoff, still today even
Captain Tardbar Sunken Ships 1161	Posted - 2016.11.01 23:31:33 - [80] - Quote Slade Trillgon wrote: Captain Tardbar wrote: For a scam they pay way too many programmers.... http://imgur.com/a/0pEmV I say the following as I am interpreting your post as if you are saying that SC is not a scam because they are paying so many people legitimately. What you said is what people think about money handlers like Bernie Madoff, still today even If they release 3.0, then I'm pretty safe to say its not a scam. Or they are really bad at scams as they just spent all their scam money on developing a space game with planetary interaction. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.

Steffles University of Caille Gallente Federation 37	Posted - 2016.11.09 08:21:08 - [81] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Ka Plaa wrote: Reading that article makes me want to hug EvE Online. EvE has it's issues and frustrations with the dev company, certainly, but in comparison?...hugs EvE Well, SC can't be compared to anything. It's in its own league as a unprecedented disastrous project in the videogame industry. Link Like a lot of posters here Derek Smart has ulterior motives and bias. Its an alpha. Do you recall the EvE alpha? Hopefully for your sakes you don't. Hey CPP - Time we put highsec back to how it was originally designed - http://i.imgur.com/GT0T0oS.jpg
Brown Pathfinder Its a good day to die 15	Posted - 2016.11.09 10:38:02 - [82] - Quote Star citizen will make space great again! I tihnk Star Citizen will complement gaming in areas where Eve is lacking and Eve will complement in areas where Star citizen is lacking imo. I invested in 2 ships costing me about the same that next gen Battlefield premium version costs. Its pretty amazing they raized over 130 milion dollars last i heard Maybe CCP could learn from them and gather some crowd funding for a Eve Online with new game engine Tech 3? I wish I could have tred out the Eve Alpha or even started out in Eve earlier than i did but it doesn't matter since I was to young to prob afford to play it back in 2003.
Nana Skalski Taisaanat Kotei 19222	Posted - 2016.11.09 11:19:49 - [83] - Quote Space is great enough without SC and EVE. And its expanding faster and faster if scientists are to be believed. Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him. GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Steffles University of Caille Gallente Federation 37	Posted - 2016.11.09 14:25:02 - [84] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: Space is great enough without SC and EVE. And its expanding faster and faster if scientists are to be believed. Whats it expanding into?? Hey CPP - Time we put highsec back to how it was originally designed - http://i.imgur.com/GT0T0oS.jpg
Nana Skalski Taisaanat Kotei 19312	Posted - 2016.11.10 08:10:13 - [85] - Quote Banana cream pie if I am to be believed. Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him. GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1231	Posted - 2016.11.10 22:58:52 - [86] - Quote Steffles wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Space is great enough without SC and EVE. And its expanding faster and faster if scientists are to be believed. Whats it expanding into?? Your mum. While a stupid answer, it's as sensible as the question asks for. The universe by our definition contains everything. So if it is expending into something, that something is also part of the universe and the question makes no sense. It's just expanding. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Captain Tardbar Sunken Ships 1174	Posted - 2016.11.11 02:15:16 - [87] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Steffles wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: Space is great enough without SC and EVE. And its expanding faster and faster if scientists are to be believed. Whats it expanding into?? Your mum. While a stupid answer, it's as sensible as the question asks for. The universe by our definition contains everything. So if it is expending into something, that something is also part of the universe and the question makes no sense. It's just expanding. To be fair the observable universe is expanding. However, we have no way of telling if the universe exists beyond that and if its expanding or contracting. Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people? Captain Tardbar's Voice Discord Server


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