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Matt Faithbringer Tax Services 31	Posted - 2016.05.25 14:25:34 - [1] - Quote There is one main argument against it, that some people would just log in semi-daily before&after downtime and pick 20k SP during 20 minutes. Ok, some people would probably do that. Other people (like me) are at work and/or sleeping. What would be positives? I plan on doing them in the morning, before going to work. Ok, why is that a problem? Because I have to alarm clock on the weekends not to destroy my schedule for monday. In general, switching between evening ratting to morning ratting and vice versa is pain in current system. You either need to miss one day or have ability to log during work or whatever you do during your day. Does the positives outweighs the negatives? imho yes. discuss.
Raging Bull Unchained Einheit X-6 756	Posted - 2016.05.25 14:29:46 - [2] - Quote I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games. And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted).
Matt Faithbringer Tax Services 31	Posted - 2016.05.25 14:37:45 - [3] - Quote Raging Bull Unchained wrote: I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games. And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me
TigerXtrm KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1545	Posted - 2016.05.25 14:40:52 - [4] - Quote Matt Faithbringer wrote: Raging Bull Unchained wrote: I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games. And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me So you miss a day, who cares? My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
Raging Bull Unchained Einheit X-6 756	Posted - 2016.05.25 14:46:58 - [5] - Quote Ah ok. Yeah, i missed that point. Do them when you came back from work? That-¦s how i do it. Though i might have that "problem" when i once do them late and want to go to bad early. I-¦d just "miss" out then. Poor ccp. They do the 22h timer so it doens-¦t get later and later and still it-¦s not right :P
Gimme Sake State War Academy Caldari State 325	Posted - 2016.05.25 15:19:58 - [6] - Quote Yay! First kill-a-rat drama! "Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2857	Posted - 2016.05.25 15:30:41 - [7] - Quote Gimme Sake wrote: Yay! First kill-a-rat drama! It was fully expected. Hell I had that subject in mind when thinking of what could be the first one.
KaarBaak 322	Posted - 2016.05.25 15:31:15 - [8] - Quote Matt Faithbringer wrote: Raging Bull Unchained wrote: I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games. And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me Skip Sunday?
Matt Faithbringer Tax Services 31	Posted - 2016.05.25 15:36:43 - [9] - Quote KaarBaak wrote: Matt Faithbringer wrote: Raging Bull Unchained wrote: I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games. And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me Skip Sunday? goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2858	Posted - 2016.05.25 15:40:32 - [10] - Quote Matt Faithbringer wrote: KaarBaak wrote: Matt Faithbringer wrote: Raging Bull Unchained wrote: I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games. And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me Skip Sunday? goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily Stop feeling forced to do something 100% optional.
Jenn aSide Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore 14136	Posted - 2016.05.25 15:40:32 - [11] - Quote Matt Faithbringer wrote: There is one main argument against it, that some people would just log in semi-daily before&after downtime and pick 20k SP during 20 minutes. Ok, some people would probably do that. Other people (like me) are at work and/or sleeping. What would be positives? I plan on doing them in the morning, before going to work. Ok, why is that a problem? Because I have to alarm clock on the weekends not to destroy my schedule for monday. In general, switching between evening ratting to morning ratting and vice versa is pain in current system. You either need to miss one day or have ability to log during work or whatever you do during your day. Does the positives outweighs the negatives? imho yes. discuss. CCP should never go about making changes because one or two players have personal scheduling conflicts. If they did , down time would be 10 hours per day 4 days per week because that's when I'm at work and EVE shouldn't even be up while I'm at work lol.
KaarBaak 325	Posted - 2016.05.25 15:44:08 - [12] - Quote Matt Faithbringer wrote: KaarBaak wrote: Matt Faithbringer wrote: Raging Bull Unchained wrote: I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games. And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me Skip Sunday? goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily I think I found your problem.
Joia Crenca Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 291	Posted - 2016.05.25 16:35:33 - [13] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Matt Faithbringer wrote: KaarBaak wrote: Matt Faithbringer wrote: Raging Bull Unchained wrote: I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games. And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me Skip Sunday? goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily Stop feeling forced to do something 100% optional. Skillpoints are pretty valuable to many EVE players. The distribution of them, if they're to have them at all, should be adjusted to be weekly or less. This feature, with the daily login requirement, may give some good statistics for CCP Hilmar in the very short term, but will lead to more EVE player burnout.
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy 9946	Posted - 2016.05.25 16:39:49 - [14] - Quote This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE. How did you Veterans start? "Learn how things work. The intricacies, interactions, and hard limits... knowing these things will grant you far more power in the long run."
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12122	Posted - 2016.05.25 16:57:03 - [15] - Quote Let me guess, you probably live in Australia, right? Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
KaarBaak 329	Posted - 2016.05.25 17:20:26 - [16] - Quote Joia Crenca wrote: [quote=Frostys Virpio] Skillpoints are pretty valuable to many EVE players. The distribution of them, if they're to have them at all, should be adjusted to be weekly or less. This feature, with the daily login requirement, may give some good statistics for CCP Hilmar in the very short term, but will lead to more EVE player burnout. I could tell you how to make it weekly: Login and kill an NPC pirate once per week. Your complaint seems akin to: "I can't accumulate ore every day unless I login every day." "I can't kill other players every day unless I login every day." It's simply another game mechanic that you can participate in or not. You'll be rewarded accordingly.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2507	Posted - 2016.05.25 18:15:14 - [17] - Quote Oh look, we got the first "daily chore" victim. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Shayla Etherodyne Delta Laroth Industries 74	Posted - 2016.05.25 18:47:41 - [18] - Quote ShahFluffers wrote: This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE. Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll. "goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily" To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying troll
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy 9949	Posted - 2016.05.25 19:04:56 - [19] - Quote Shayla Etherodyne wrote: ShahFluffers wrote: This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE. Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll. "goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily" To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying troll Maybe. But I have also met players who actually think this way too. How did you Veterans start? "Learn how things work. The intricacies, interactions, and hard limits... knowing these things will grant you far more power in the long run."
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 55052	Posted - 2016.05.25 19:11:04 - [20] - Quote I agree with the OP. The timer should renew with server reset at Down Time. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Matt Faithbringer Tax Services 35	Posted - 2016.05.25 19:15:01 - [21] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: Let me guess, you probably live in Australia, right? EU
Sustrai Aditua Irubo Kovu 231	Posted - 2016.05.25 19:16:57 - [22] - Quote Look. Only old ladies in pink sweaters and adolescents fresh from Pandaland say "troll." This is the EVE Online Forum. Please. Show some dignity and some sense. If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 3853	Posted - 2016.05.25 19:17:14 - [23] - Quote Getting up at 5 for five days, then 9 for two days puts your body into a permanent state of jet lag. Its bad for you. Get up at the same time every day and you will feel better, irrelevant of Eve. (And then this issue goes away as well.) Know a Frozen fan? Check this out Frozen fanfiction
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2863	Posted - 2016.05.25 19:31:44 - [24] - Quote ShahFluffers wrote: Shayla Etherodyne wrote: ShahFluffers wrote: This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE. Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll. "goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily" To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying troll Maybe. But I have also met players who actually think this way too. We all know a few idiots...
Moac Tor Cyber Core Stain Confederation 540	Posted - 2016.05.25 19:37:08 - [25] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: ShahFluffers wrote: Shayla Etherodyne wrote: ShahFluffers wrote: This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE. Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll. "goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily" To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying troll Maybe. But I have also met players who actually think this way too. We all know a few idiots... There are actually going to be loads of people who think this way, and then when they find they are missing out they are going to get annoyed and lose interest in the game. This has been stated countless times in the feedback thread and so I am not at all surprised that this type of thread has already popped up. They should make it as easy as possible to claim the SP. For myself I am not bothered as I haven't even logged in yet as I refuse to login when I otherwise wouldn't simply to shoot a rat. But I don't want to see players getting annoyed and quitting the game as that is bad for everyone, even when it is people who you claim to be 'idiots', they are still producing content and making for a richer game world. Modulated ECM Effects An Alternative to Skill Trading
Shayla Etherodyne Delta Laroth Industries 74	Posted - 2016.05.25 20:06:54 - [26] - Quote Moac Tor wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: ShahFluffers wrote: Shayla Etherodyne wrote: ShahFluffers wrote: This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE. Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll. "goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily" To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying troll Maybe. But I have also met players who actually think this way too. We all know a few idiots... There are actually going to be loads of people who think this way, and then when they find they are missing out they are going to get annoyed and lose interest in the game. This has been stated countless times in the feedback thread and so I am not at all surprised that this type of thread has already popped up. They should make it as easy as possible to claim the SP. For myself I am not bothered as I haven't even logged in yet as I refuse to login when I otherwise wouldn't simply to shoot a rat. But I don't want to see players getting annoyed and quitting the game as that is bad for everyone, even when it is people who you claim to be 'idiots', they are still producing content and making for a richer game world. People quitting for that will quit for countless other reasons: "i was ganked." "i have lost my bling ship to a mission." and so on. The wouldn't stay long regardless.
Matt Faithbringer Tax Services 35	Posted - 2016.05.25 21:35:12 - [27] - Quote Shayla Etherodyne wrote: People quitting for that will quit for countless other reasons: "i was ganked." "i have lost my bling ship to a mission." and so on. The wouldn't stay long regardless. I was ganked. I've lost my bling ship to a mission. And I'm not quiting over this. But it still is annoying.
KaarBaak 332	Posted - 2016.05.25 22:00:48 - [28] - Quote Matt Faithbringer wrote: Shayla Etherodyne wrote: People quitting for that will quit for countless other reasons: "i was ganked." "i have lost my bling ship to a mission." and so on. The wouldn't stay long regardless. I was ganked. I've lost my bling ship to a mission. And I'm not quiting over this. But it still is annoying. No it's not. It's just something. And you let it annoy you. You can continue to play the same way you've always played. Occasionally you'll accidentally get an SP bump. But otherwise it will not affect you whatsoever, if you don't let it. If they introduced a mechanic that removed 10,000 SP each day that you *didn't* login...THAT would be annoying. Not getting SP for not killing a rat is like not getting ore for not mining an asteroid.
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 11109	Posted - 2016.05.25 22:22:55 - [29] - Quote 24 hours is too much, change it to 16. ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ =ƒÅ¦ - my sandcastle Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Planetary Interaction 2.1
Rachel Bloodbucket The Dutch United 0	Posted - 2016.05.25 23:03:11 - [30] - Quote Do them in the evening to get rid of your problem.
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY 292	Posted - 2016.05.26 00:46:26 - [31] - Quote Nana Skalski wrote: 22 hours is too much, change it to 16. 16 is too much, change it to 1 second.
Sobaan Tali Caldari Quick Reaction Force 929	Posted - 2016.05.26 00:59:56 - [32] - Quote KaarBaak wrote: Matt Faithbringer wrote: Shayla Etherodyne wrote: People quitting for that will quit for countless other reasons: "i was ganked." "i have lost my bling ship to a mission." and so on. The wouldn't stay long regardless. I was ganked. I've lost my bling ship to a mission. And I'm not quiting over this. But it still is annoying. No it's not. It's just something. And you let it annoy you. You can continue to play the same way you've always played. Occasionally you'll accidentally get an SP bump. But otherwise it will not affect you whatsoever, if you don't let it. If they introduced a mechanic that removed 10,000 SP each day that you *didn't* login...THAT would be annoying. Not getting SP for not killing a rat is like not getting ore for not mining an asteroid. Somebody gets it. "Tomahawks?" "----in' A, right?" "Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each." "----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
TackyTachy1 Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 63	Posted - 2016.05.26 02:21:22 - [33] - Quote I killed a rat the other day (rat attack on my miner) and the screen lit up informing me I'd just been granted a bunch of something called "Unallocated Skill Points", or something like that. Cool, I have no idea what that other stuff is all about. Hangar Videos: CCP/USAWallStreet Love Child
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY 292	Posted - 2016.05.26 04:50:35 - [34] - Quote KaarBaak wrote: If they introduced a mechanic that removed 10,000 SP each day that you *didn't* login...THAT would be annoying. Thats a brilliant way to get people to start playing every day. Make it so that you also lose isk and ships too. Randomly delete a ship from your hangar, and also minus a million isk every day you dont play. This will change the game forever.
Neph Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate 269	Posted - 2016.05.26 05:00:02 - [35] - Quote Here's a quick example: let's say that you can play every 18 hours. You're playing at least once a day, so you should be getting 10k a day, right? Well, actually, you're going to only get 10k every other day. That sucks! If CCP wants to further mechanics from downtime, and add more recurring opportunity in the future, why not be able to set a recurring opportunity reset time per account/character? You can set it for whatever hour you want, and you can change it only every 24 hours/week/whatever it takes to keep it from being exploited. Easy peasy. ~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~ "High command need more time to complete the evacuation. We shall provide." -Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba-hanni
Neph Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate 269	Posted - 2016.05.26 05:01:08 - [36] - Quote Solonius Rex wrote: Nana Skalski wrote: 22 hours is too much, change it to 16. 16 is too much, change it to 1 second. wtb afktar, will pay you back in skill injectors ~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~ "High command need more time to complete the evacuation. We shall provide." -Admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba-hanni
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 483	Posted - 2016.05.26 05:21:41 - [37] - Quote oh fck, i missed mine yesterday. too tired to log in... Just Add Water
Roenok Baalnorn Sadistically Sinister 51	Posted - 2016.05.26 05:33:27 - [38] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: I agree with the OP. The timer should renew with server reset at Down Time. DMC I also agree with this. Im not going to keep track of 22 hours since last time i got this. Im not for sure how this works across alts yet. but i want a specific alt to get the bonus. Id be upset if it was first come first serve and it rolled over right as i was doing an anom or something on my main(s) since i want lower skilled alts to get the sp. If 22 hours is CCPs over complicated way of giving us a bonus for perfect logins every 12 days( Do this perfectly 12 times in a row and you can get 130k SP in 12 days), id rather it be at downtime, and we get a 10k bonus for logging in 14 days in a row and completing the task.
Roenok Baalnorn Sadistically Sinister 51	Posted - 2016.05.26 05:35:05 - [39] - Quote Solonius Rex wrote: KaarBaak wrote: If they introduced a mechanic that removed 10,000 SP each day that you *didn't* login...THAT would be annoying. Thats a brilliant way to get people to start playing every day. Make it so that you also lose isk and ships too. Randomly delete a ship from your hangar, and also minus a million isk every day you dont play. This will change the game forever. yeah its called "mass unsub"
cookie McGee Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary 0	Posted - 2016.05.26 06:05:26 - [40] - Quote I recomend moving the downtime to the american primetime instead of the aussie one.
Nana Skalski Poseidaon 11117	Posted - 2016.05.26 06:23:11 - [41] - Quote Changing it to 16 hours would give anyone an 8 hours tolerance and freedom rather than 2 without any dependance on servers restarting anyway. When they will remove downtime (if they remove it) and this is obviously made that way so that downtime is irrelevant, such timers would be anything what is left for them to separate certain events in time. ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ =ƒÅ¦ - my sandcastle Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò Planetary Interaction 2.1
March rabbit Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 1783	Posted - 2016.05.26 06:26:44 - [42] - Quote Nat Silverguard wrote: oh fck, i missed mine yesterday. too tired to log in... but... but... PLAYER INTERACTION The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Geronimo McVain McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc 74	Posted - 2016.05.26 06:29:15 - [43] - Quote I'm making around 480.000 SP per week (3+imps, reskill, 6xdaily). Writing this post will take longer then my worry if I miss out a daily. It's just hyped up. Most Vet could make more money doing their job and buying an injector then hunting for the SP. For me as a noob it's a nice bonus: Thanks CCPs If someone quits over this he would quit anyway. You can't make everyone happy. Each decisions of CCP will pi** someone and even not making a decision will do so. So CCP should do what they think best and take a look at the reaction INGAME. I remember the forum posts that the introduction of injectors would the end of EVE. Anyone here that quit because of injectors?
Hipqo 143	Posted - 2016.05.26 07:00:41 - [44] - Quote Joia Crenca wrote: Skillpoints are pretty valuable to many EVE players. The distribution of them, if they're to have them at all, should be adjusted to be weekly or less. This feature, with the daily login requirement, may give some good statistics for CCP Hilmar in the very short term, but will lead to more EVE player burnout. There are no daily login requirements.... You choose to log on. And now you are complaining because your real life makes it so you cant take 100% advantage of what can only be described as "world of warcraft dailys" in EVE! Dont get me wrong, its a great new feature to earn some free SP, but its completely optional and not needed to play the game or advance in the game. So the obvious solution would be to quit your job and play EVE 24/7. A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
Evasive Shadow Assassin Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation 3545	Posted - 2016.05.26 07:28:52 - [45] - Quote Dude if the missing of Sp bothers u find a new interest to occupy u, you're addicted 200+ Videos On Eve Online, Missions, Anomalys, PvP, Guides
Beta Maoye 116	Posted - 2016.05.26 09:33:39 - [46] - Quote 22 hours cycle gives me 1.75 hour window to complete the daily. Downtime reset gives me 23.75 hours to do it. In the case of downtime reset, if I complete the daily in the morning in day one, I can miss the morning window in day two and complete the daily at night and I can still be able to get 20K sp within 48 hours time frame. In the case of 22 hours, if I miss the morning window in day two, I will miss the potential sp bonus of the time gap between morning and the time I complete the daily. The impact could be getting worse if I miss more windows in later days. Downtime reset provides much flexible time schedule to me. I prefer the flexibility of downtime set rather than the opportunity to gain a few more sp in the case of 22 hours cycle.
Amaya Kallio the Black Sun Cartel Shadow of xXDEATHXx 7	Posted - 2016.05.26 09:44:28 - [47] - Quote KaarBaak wrote: Joia Crenca wrote: [quote=Frostys Virpio] Skillpoints are pretty valuable to many EVE players. The distribution of them, if they're to have them at all, should be adjusted to be weekly or less. This feature, with the daily login requirement, may give some good statistics for CCP Hilmar in the very short term, but will lead to more EVE player burnout. I could tell you how to make it weekly: Login and kill an NPC pirate once per week. Your complaint seems akin to: "I can't accumulate ore every day unless I login every day." "I can't kill other players every day unless I login every day." It's simply another game mechanic that you can participate in or not. You'll be rewarded accordingly. Except I can log in when I have the time and mine ore for 15 hours nonstop to make up for the ore I could have obtained but did not by choosing not to play. This is game telling me when to log in, and if I don't then I am being punished for it. Do you see the difference? I am a new player, so these 10k skill points are useful to me, maybe when I'll be sitting in a carrier I will simply shrug it off. That is if by then CCP doesn't turn EVE into World of Warcraft that I fled here from.
IZZY EPIC Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2016.05.26 11:10:02 - [48] - Quote Beta Maoye wrote: 22 hours cycle gives me 1.75 hour window to complete the daily. Downtime reset gives me a window of 23.75 hours to do it. In the case of downtime reset, if I complete the daily in the morning in day one, I can miss the morning window in day two and complete the daily at night and I can still be able to get 20K sp within 48 hours time frame. In the case of 22 hours, if I miss the morning window in day two, I will miss the potential sp bonus of the time gap between morning and the time I complete the daily. The impact could be getting worse if I miss more windows in later days. Downtime reset provides much better flexible time schedule to me. I prefer the flexibility of downtime reset rather than the opportunity to gain a few more sp in the case of 22 hours cycle. I was against dailies reseting in dt. But out of the entire thread, you' ve made the most senses about this. I am a shift worker so i am bound to miss a day here n there when i change from dayshift to nightshift. Not that im too concerned though.
Aaron Honk Distributed Denial of Service 125	Posted - 2016.05.26 12:01:35 - [49] - Quote I'm all for this idea. Btw it doesn't have to reset at downtime. On wow dailies were reset at 6am (back when I still played anyway) and the server didn't need a restart for this to happen
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2866	Posted - 2016.05.26 12:26:12 - [50] - Quote Amaya Kallio wrote: KaarBaak wrote: Joia Crenca wrote: [quote=Frostys Virpio] Skillpoints are pretty valuable to many EVE players. The distribution of them, if they're to have them at all, should be adjusted to be weekly or less. This feature, with the daily login requirement, may give some good statistics for CCP Hilmar in the very short term, but will lead to more EVE player burnout. I could tell you how to make it weekly: Login and kill an NPC pirate once per week. Your complaint seems akin to: "I can't accumulate ore every day unless I login every day." "I can't kill other players every day unless I login every day." It's simply another game mechanic that you can participate in or not. You'll be rewarded accordingly. Except I can log in when I have the time and mine ore for 15 hours nonstop to make up for the ore I could have obtained but did not by choosing not to play. This is game telling me when to log in, and if I don't then I am being punished for it. Do you see the difference? I am a new player, so these 10k skill points are useful to me, maybe when I'll be sitting in a carrier I will simply shrug it off. That is if by then CCP doesn't turn EVE into World of Warcraft that I fled here from. New player from 2011 that didn't get sold through the bazaar. You sure have a long time frame where you call yourself new.
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 1717	Posted - 2016.05.26 12:33:29 - [51] - Quote I did 2 dailies sofar not going to today. Just f*k it. Not going to dance to ccp's pipes. Mission failed.
Nerath Naaris Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy 1062	Posted - 2016.05.26 21:45:23 - [52] - Quote Perhaps CCP should just introduce +6 Implants. They work like normal +5 Implants except for that last +1 that only gives skillpoints if the owner has logged in for at least 5 minutes each day. Though I am sure someone will find a way to complain about that too... Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. Je suis Paris Je suis Köln Je suis Brüssel Je suis [?]
Moac Tor Cyber Core Stain Confederation 544	Posted - 2016.05.26 23:02:38 - [53] - Quote Sobaan Tali wrote: KaarBaak wrote: Matt Faithbringer wrote: Shayla Etherodyne wrote: People quitting for that will quit for countless other reasons: "i was ganked." "i have lost my bling ship to a mission." and so on. The wouldn't stay long regardless. I was ganked. I've lost my bling ship to a mission. And I'm not quiting over this. But it still is annoying. No it's not. It's just something. And you let it annoy you. You can continue to play the same way you've always played. Occasionally you'll accidentally get an SP bump. But otherwise it will not affect you whatsoever, if you don't let it. If they introduced a mechanic that removed 10,000 SP each day that you *didn't* login...THAT would be annoying. Not getting SP for not killing a rat is like not getting ore for not mining an asteroid. Somebody gets it. And it isn't you.. Take a moment to think. The reason CCP is implementing this feature is to encourage people to login. They know that the dailies for a large number of people have a psychological effect in which people feel compelled to login for the reward. If the reward isn't great enough then they will just increase it until enough people feel compelled to login until they meet their target. Now go back and have a think about why it is stupid to tell people to HTFU and that they don't need to login when that is the whole purpose of these daily quests. Modulated ECM Effects An Alternative to Skill Trading
Arsine Elgan Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.05.27 01:34:22 - [54] - Quote Would be the, wait for it, hold on, "Logical" way to do it.
Tyberius Franklin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1970	Posted - 2016.05.27 02:12:11 - [55] - Quote Moac Tor wrote: And it isn't you.. Take a moment to think. The reason CCP is implementing this feature is to encourage people to login. They know that the dailies for a large number of people have a psychological effect in which people feel compelled to login for the reward. If the reward isn't great enough then they will just increase it until enough people feel compelled to login until they meet their target. Now go back and have a think about why it is stupid to tell people to HTFU and that they don't need to login when that is the whole purpose of these daily quests. Maybe you should also take some time for consideration. Yes, some people will login for the reward, and obviously that is the point. What you're suggesting on the other hand is that CCP is just pants on head with the whole thing and will work to make it as close to compulsory as they can without actually taking SP away for not participating. Further, it's probably not a good idea to encourage more rampant high level SP generation now that SP is a commodity. You wind up shooting your SP farming customers in the foot by devaluing their product, which jeopardizes that sub/PLEX revenue. They also don't want it to be too good because they actually don't want just logins. That's the part people miss. They want people to log in yes, but they want them to stay and play more than just the time required to do the daily. They want more people doing more things online. That's what login incentives are for: come for the incentive, stay since you already bothered to log in and do more. Too good of incentives and you just get people cycling accounts for via routine which doesn't increase the likely hood any one account stays in. Quite the opposite as moving to the next is that much more beneficial. Especially here where interaction is content. That or, as I'm sure many probably feel, CCP is indeed completely incompetent and just looking for that unique login number and will screw over any mechanisms and players they have to to get it.
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2873	Posted - 2016.05.27 03:41:38 - [56] - Quote Moac Tor wrote: Sobaan Tali wrote: KaarBaak wrote: Matt Faithbringer wrote: Shayla Etherodyne wrote: People quitting for that will quit for countless other reasons: "i was ganked." "i have lost my bling ship to a mission." and so on. The wouldn't stay long regardless. I was ganked. I've lost my bling ship to a mission. And I'm not quiting over this. But it still is annoying. No it's not. It's just something. And you let it annoy you. You can continue to play the same way you've always played. Occasionally you'll accidentally get an SP bump. But otherwise it will not affect you whatsoever, if you don't let it. If they introduced a mechanic that removed 10,000 SP each day that you *didn't* login...THAT would be annoying. Not getting SP for not killing a rat is like not getting ore for not mining an asteroid. Somebody gets it. And it isn't you.. Take a moment to think. The reason CCP is implementing this feature is to encourage people to login. They know that the dailies for a large number of people have a psychological effect in which people feel compelled to login for the reward. If the reward isn't great enough then they will just increase it until enough people feel compelled to login until they meet their target. Now go back and have a think about why it is stupid to tell people to HTFU and that they don't need to login when that is the whole purpose of these daily quests. The fact that they want you to log in does not mean that you need to log in. The need to log in comes from the SP addiction. You should want to log in because it's nice to have but still understanding that you don't NEED to.
Dibz Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2016.05.27 09:54:26 - [57] - Quote That's why this daily is a bad idea: Before, it didn't matter if you didn't log in (after the skill queue changes). Now, you know that for each day you don't log in and do the daily you are losing roughly 4 hours' worth of SP gain per day. You don't have to be addicted for that to bother you.
TigerXtrm KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1556	Posted - 2016.05.27 10:33:46 - [58] - Quote Dibz wrote: That's why this daily is a bad idea: Before, it didn't matter if you didn't log in (after the skill queue changes). Now, you know that for each day you don't log in and do the daily you are losing roughly 4 hours' worth of SP gain per day. You don't have to be addicted for that to bother you. What about kills? Could have gotten so many kills if you had just logged on more! Or what about ISK? Such an optimized ISK per hour but you missed out on it all because you couldn't log on and had a life! Damnit CCP why do you force this upon us! Stop forcing us to play your game!! My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1486	Posted - 2016.05.27 11:00:50 - [59] - Quote The above logic makes no sense. I log on to do the things I enjoy until I'm satisfied, I shouldn't have to worry about my SP gain in the background nagging me like a bad migraine
TigerXtrm KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1556	Posted - 2016.05.27 11:08:57 - [60] - Quote Why doesn't it make sense? If you're not min-maxing this game to oblivion then a tiny 10k SP boost shouldn't bother you in the slightest. Especially when you can buy at least 150k off the market whenever you wish. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1488	Posted - 2016.05.27 12:50:59 - [61] - Quote I keep hearing this argument that it's a "tiny boost" Do the math, it's an increase of 20%, that's not "tiny"
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2877	Posted - 2016.05.27 13:09:08 - [62] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: The above logic makes no sense. I log on to do the things I enjoy until I'm satisfied, I shouldn't have to worry about my SP gain in the background nagging me like a bad migraine You don't have to worry about it because even if you don't kill a single rat in the whole week, you will still get exactly as many SP as you would if this new feature had not been added. Your SP gain is still exactly the same as it was before.
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1488	Posted - 2016.05.27 13:13:20 - [63] - Quote "you don't lose what you never had in the first place" Flawed logic again and one of the dumbest things I've EVER heard anyone say.
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 435	Posted - 2016.05.27 13:18:16 - [64] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: "you don't lose what you never had in the first place" Flawed logic again and one of the dumbest things I've EVER heard anyone say. If you heard them say it, then you have voices in your head you might need looked at. Writing that you heard it said is just as flawed.
Geronimo McVain McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc 74	Posted - 2016.05.27 13:59:04 - [65] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: I keep hearing this argument that it's a "tiny boost" Do the math, it's an increase of 20%, that's not "tiny" Tiny is the amount you miss. You are doing stuff anyway so you just shoot a rat on the way. Maybe you miss out 1 or 2 per week: thats tiny. With Basic imps I get 420.000SP /week and I really don't care if I get +50,+60 or 70.000 on top from dailys. It's nice sure, but nothing I will loose sleep over if I miss them. If you really miss a big amount the question should be: why are you paying for EVE when you almost never log in?
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2877	Posted - 2016.05.27 14:02:39 - [66] - Quote Geronimo McVain wrote: Tsukino Stareine wrote: I keep hearing this argument that it's a "tiny boost" Do the math, it's an increase of 20%, that's not "tiny" Tiny is the amount you miss. You are doing stuff anyway so you just shoot a rat on the way. Maybe you miss out 1 or 2 per week: thats tiny. With Basic imps I get 420.000SP /week and I really don't care if I get +50,+60 or 70.000 on top from dailys. It's nice sure, but nothing I will loose sleep over if I miss them. If you really miss a big amount the question should be: why are you paying for EVE when you almost never log in? For the hourly SP they gain while not logged of course...
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2877	Posted - 2016.05.27 14:04:03 - [67] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: "you don't lose what you never had in the first place" Flawed logic again and one of the dumbest things I've EVER heard anyone say. I wish I could fill my tax report with "lost" money I never had in the first place so I could get far enough in the red to get full reimbursement for what I paid over the year. Sadly, it is not recognized as a loss...
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1488	Posted - 2016.05.27 14:11:09 - [68] - Quote When the bar is set so low for such a significant boost, it becomes mandatory. And your tax report analogy is so far off the mark it's not even relevant.
TigerXtrm KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1557	Posted - 2016.05.27 14:11:45 - [69] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: I keep hearing this argument that it's a "tiny boost" Do the math, it's an increase of 20%, that's not "tiny" It's a 20% increase if you were to do it every single day. By that logic, you're missing out on tons of ISK because you're unable to play for 23 hours a day because you can't do your favorite ISK making activity. There is no difference here. You miss out on ISK because you can't play all the time. You miss out on SP because you can't play all the time. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1488	Posted - 2016.05.27 14:37:12 - [70] - Quote by that logic you are dedicated every second of the day to making isk whereas this is an activity (however cumbersome) that takes minutes. The fact is that the effort to reward ratio on this activity is completely out of whack, making it pretty mandatory for any pilot to take advantage of it. Before the whole unique quality of this game was not penalising you for how much time you can spend on it in terms of your character progression. Now we are slowly moving towards the grind model, more time = more sp. Skill injectors started the trend off, however this was fairly acceptable as it was a redistribution of SP and also added something to the market rather than creating SP from nothing. These "dailies" have no other impact in the game apart from making an arbitrary activity give a significant advantage to the player who chooses to do so. People who cannot log in every day will resent this kind of game direction as it punishes them for having to adhere to other obligations out of eve. People who even DO have the time to log in every day will resent this activity, as has been seen by many games who have adopted this style of daily mission. I played WoW for 5 years and I know how I feel about dailies after that.
Dibz Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2016.05.27 15:22:57 - [71] - Quote TigerXtrm wrote: What about kills? Could have gotten so many kills if you had just logged on more! Or what about ISK? Such an optimized ISK per hour but you missed out on it all because you couldn't log on and had a life! Damnit CCP why do you force this upon us! Stop forcing us to play your game!! I don't care about kills, nor am I all that bothered about optimal ISK per hour. But every day I don't bother to log in and kill an NPC is roughly 4 hours added to my skill queue. Every 6 days I don't log in and kill an NPC is roughly one whole day extra added to my skill queue. If we were talking about 15 minutes' worth of training per day then your "min-maxing to oblivion" comment wouldn't have been so wide of the mark. As it is, roughly 4 hours' worth of free SP per day is a big deal.
Robert Caldera Caldera Trading and Investment 1157	Posted - 2016.05.27 15:30:47 - [72] - Quote i'm sure the devs had their reasons in mind when they decided it to be 22h, not a whole day.
Dibz Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2016.05.27 15:37:00 - [73] - Quote Geronimo McVain wrote: Tiny is the amount you miss. You are doing stuff anyway so you just shoot a rat on the way. I huff gas in wormholes, where is the rat that is "on the way"? Unless your definition of "on the way" is to spend extra time traveling to a 0.8 system or below and hop between asteroid belts until I'm lucky enough to find one that's not just full of wrecks, and then go back to what I actually wanted to do.
Geronimo McVain McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc 74	Posted - 2016.05.27 16:04:47 - [74] - Quote Dibz wrote: Geronimo McVain wrote: Tiny is the amount you miss. You are doing stuff anyway so you just shoot a rat on the way. I huff gas in wormholes, where is the rat that is "on the way"? Unless your definition of "on the way" is to spend extra time traveling to a 0.8 system or below and hop between asteroid belts until I'm lucky enough to find one that's not just full of wrecks, and then go back to what I actually wanted to do. If you are living in a WH you can rat with your buddies: They might want to have the SP too. If you are just visiting, search for an Level 1 Agent. Get Mission, kill rats and the next day you finisch the Mission, get new one....... You neither need to loot nor do you need finish it in time. You can even get the Mission and kill just one rat per day till the Mission runs out or you killed all the rats, like some SP Cache.
Josef Djugashvilis 3434	Posted - 2016.05.27 16:17:09 - [75] - Quote Matt Faithbringer wrote: There is one main argument against it, that some people would just log in semi-daily before&after downtime and pick 20k SP during 20 minutes. Ok, some people would probably do that. Other people (like me) are at work and/or sleeping. What would be positives? I plan on doing them in the morning, before going to work. Ok, why is that a problem? Because I have to alarm clock on the weekends not to destroy my schedule for monday. In general, switching between evening ratting to morning ratting and vice versa is pain in current system. You either need to miss one day or have ability to log during work or whatever you do during your day. Does the positives outweighs the negatives? imho yes. discuss. Eve should be all about me and what I want...make it so, or I shall come to the forums and whinge like an entitled brat. This is not a signature.
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2879	Posted - 2016.05.27 18:02:27 - [76] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: I played WoW for 5 years and I know how I feel about dailies after that. You feel bad for having grinded reputations you though you needed but didn't actually need? Yeah I guess I would feel bad too if I did useless things in a game.
Geronimo McVain McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc 74	Posted - 2016.05.27 18:18:03 - [77] - Quote BTW: I'm playing EVE because it's fun. I can live with the fact that I'm not the best, don't earn the most Money, don't fly the shiniest ship and I still have fun. Why do People always want to be the best and need to have everything. Have fun, and if you miss that ISK or SP or so be it. If your happiness depends no such things in EVE I doubt that your REALLY having fun in EVE. Fun in a game is more then the perfect killboard, the most ISK etc. It's about the fun of playing the game and not besting everyone else.
KaarBaak Squirrel Team 343	Posted - 2016.05.27 22:55:34 - [78] - Quote Geronimo McVain wrote: BTW: I'm playing EVE because it's fun. I can live with the fact that I'm not the best, don't earn the most Money, don't fly the shiniest ship and I still have fun. Why do People always want to be the best and need to have everything. Have fun, and if you miss that ISK or SP or so be it. If your happiness depends no such things in EVE I doubt that your REALLY having fun in EVE. Fun in a game is more then the perfect killboard, the most ISK etc. It's about the fun of playing the game and not besting everyone else. It's that vocal sliver of min/max -ers that are complaining. The majority of players see it as 'just another thing in EvE.' Dum Spiro Spero Not getting SP for not killing a rat is like not getting ore for not mining an asteroid.
Sepheir Sepheron The Congregation No Handlebars. 57	Posted - 2016.05.28 11:02:43 - [79] - Quote I agree with OP also. The idea is fine for logging in once per day to do this, I just don't like it being a certain time of the day rather than anytime during each individual day. +1
kardjaval Curtana Joyeuse and Durendal Security 29	Posted - 2016.05.28 11:35:57 - [80] - Quote Wow...people are blowing up on you big time...as if they don't even understand what the annoyance is with this... to all the guys BITCHING about this guy bringing up a perfectly valid complaint...care to explain to me HOW it daily opportunities would change if it was switched from a 22-hour cooldown to a reset at daily reset once per day deal. the fact is, functionally...there would be little change
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2882	Posted - 2016.05.28 13:06:34 - [81] - Quote kardjaval wrote: Wow...people are blowing up on you big time...as if they don't even understand what the annoyance is with this... to all the guys BITCHING about this guy bringing up a perfectly valid complaint...care to explain to me HOW it daily opportunities would change if it was switched from a 22-hour cooldown to a reset at daily reset once per day deal. the fact is, functionally...there would be little change If it would be little change, then why even bother?
kardjaval Curtana Joyeuse and Durendal Security 29	Posted - 2016.05.28 17:30:33 - [82] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: kardjaval wrote: Wow...people are blowing up on you big time...as if they don't even understand what the annoyance is with this... to all the guys BITCHING about this guy bringing up a perfectly valid complaint...care to explain to me HOW it daily opportunities would change if it was switched from a 22-hour cooldown to a reset at daily reset once per day deal. the fact is, functionally...there would be little change If it would be little change, then why even bother? because quality of life changes don't have to be big to improve something.
Galaxy Pig new order logistics CODE. 976	Posted - 2016.05.30 18:36:20 - [83] - Quote What did carebears ever do to deserve 20% more SP than wormhole dwellers, is the question. *Highsec is owned by players now.* Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
ACESsiggy Pandemic Horde Inc. 57	Posted - 2016.05.30 18:50:36 - [84] - Quote I for one am pleased that CCP has brought this to the game. However I do agree that the current mechanic should be changed to a simple "reset after downtime" thing. GÇ£The open-minded see the truth in different things: the narrow-minded see only the differences.GÇ¥
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2890	Posted - 2016.05.30 19:00:45 - [85] - Quote Galaxy Pig wrote: What did carebears ever do to deserve 20% more SP than wormhole dwellers, is the question. They completed the opportunity objectives while the wormhole dweller didn't.
Maxpie MUSE Buy-n-Large Metaphysical Utopian Society Enterprises 446	Posted - 2016.05.31 16:25:21 - [86] - Quote ACESsiggy wrote: I for one am pleased that CCP has brought this to the game. However I do agree that the current mechanic should be changed to a simple "reset after downtime" thing. I agree with this exactly. This is Eve. We don't need dailies. Dailies are for WoW and games like that. Eve is a sandbox. A virtual life. The worst part is, I get the sense more are coming That being said, if we must have this, once per downtime would seem to make much more sense than every 22 hours. Also, WH dwellers, I noticed that you get the SP bonus for killing sleepers or guns protecting sites. No good deed goes unpunished
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 17647	Posted - 2016.05.31 19:17:29 - [87] - Quote Just to point out, CCP got rid of the whole alarm clocking training for a reason, this log in for your SP boost every day is a return to the bad old days of gotta log in to get mah SP. Having spent a fair bit of time in Austria and drowning in Germany I do feel somewhat disadvantaged although at this point losing several weeks of this bonus matters little to me given that amount of SP I have. I can see it sucking for low SP people though who would feel punished.
W33b3l Conquest and Kittens 102	Posted - 2016.05.31 20:52:53 - [88] - Quote You know i was flying around in a PVP fit force reacon looking to see if anyone put up any citadels yet and didn't shoot a damn thing. I need to remember to fly through a belt and one volly a rat when passing through a system once a day. So i was logged in and didnt evem bother lol. Im just skilling stuff for something to do though so it doesn't matter much to me, but ive dealt with timers for years that force me to let things sit idle longer then I want just because it finishes when im at work or whatever. Nothing new. Try running a decent sized T2 production line all tje way to market alone some time and this will seem like nothing to you.

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