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Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 15371	Posted - 2016.05.30 17:01:41 - [31] - Quote Just to confirm that I've been asked to hold the CEO position of the Citadel owning corporation to ensure that the ISK goes to the right places and that suddenly docking rights etc change without prior notice. Sorry for the delay, I'm on vacation atm /c GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Twitter @Chribba

Areen Sassel 112	Posted - 2016.05.30 17:12:05 - [32] - Quote Chribba wrote: Just to confirm that I've been asked to hold the CEO position of the Citadel owning corporation to ensure that the ISK goes to the right places and that suddenly docking rights etc change without prior notice. Not your fault, but it is rather unfortunate that your partner threw a tantrum in the few days before you made this post. When you have time I would be grateful if you would sum up your understanding of the project.
Caleb Ayrania TarNec Invisible Exchequer 312	Posted - 2016.05.30 17:34:57 - [33] - Quote Termerity Faceturn wrote: The project is still very much on, and in fact is on the cusp of even greater growth. If anyone actually doubts Chribba's involvement, feel free to contact him yourselves. I removed the posts here because there are more... effective ways of reaching the EVE playerbase. Anyone who has genuine, intelligent questions or interest in the project can follow the project's Twitter @CharityCitadel. Interesting how the official forums for every MMO exhibit the same... traits. I am sure that kind of arrogance will get the MD very friendly.. Good luck with your borderline scammy project. The fact that you got Chribba on as a standard 3rd party service means very little to people in here.. Your not just handing over a Capital ship, or securing collateral.. Your using the Chribba name, and charity to paint a BIG "Red Cross" on an admitted future War Funding Machine! and CCP will never guarantee anti-scamming, especially not from a potentially not really neutral body. Your attempt to monopolize the Citadel Market Hub Wars, via goodwill, charity and the Chribba brand is not working on me, I find it offensive against anything that is financial PVP.
Caleb Ayrania TarNec Invisible Exchequer 312	Posted - 2016.05.30 17:38:47 - [34] - Quote Chribba wrote: Just to confirm that I've been asked to hold the CEO position of the Citadel owning corporation to ensure that the ISK goes to the right places and that suddenly docking rights etc change without prior notice. Sorry for the delay, I'm on vacation atm /c This project is NOT your average 3rd party service.. I hope you consider how your Brand is being used to basically promote a service, that was admitted is potentially NOT neutral at all. So Unless you Chribba with the CEO post, and ofc Shares Majority on hand, promise oversight in the form of proper audits, then you should really reconsider lending your name to this thing.. No audits, no oversight, no trust..
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2522	Posted - 2016.05.30 17:44:28 - [35] - Quote The OP's replies show an unhealthy amount of arrogance for being the to-be market and charity leader of New Eden. I'm my own NPC alt.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12199	Posted - 2016.05.30 17:46:07 - [36] - Quote I can just see it in the overview now "Ricdic Citadel" Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Termerity Faceturn Charity Citadel 4	Posted - 2016.05.30 17:49:56 - [37] - Quote Areen Sassel wrote: Not your fault, but it is rather unfortunate that your partner threw a tantrum in the few days before you made this post. A long time ago someone realized and shared the simple fact that 1+1=2. Was he throwing a tantrum for recognizing and stating a plain and obvious fact? It appears some here would make such a disingenuous assertion. Thank them for the reaction you'll get from most EVE players when you even bring up the topic of the official forums: laughter and derisive mockery and laughter and horror stories and laughter. All mature people who wish to engage in meaningful conversation, see my signature, join us there and I'll be more than happy to engage in discussion with those who are actually interested in things like facts and reason. I answer all questions and welcome all criticisms there, where it's actually worth it. If you want *worthwhile* EVE Online discussion in a *relevant* place: r/Eve on Reddit
Caleb Ayrania TarNec Invisible Exchequer 313	Posted - 2016.05.30 18:17:00 - [38] - Quote Termerity Faceturn wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4lhci2/chribba_joins_charity_citadel_as_ceo_project_will/ For an intelligent discussion of the topic with actual interest in things like facts, click that link. This is priceless... I cant defend my idea to people that do markets as primary thing in EVE, so come to retardit and post where they can be trolled and downvoted to the max.. How about you answer peoples legit questions instead of this pathetic obfuscation.. Or maybe you can give the same reply as the "Gamblers"; "What is an audit".. I would guess your financial expert source for the doomsday scenario is Gevlon Goblin.. So the solution to other peoples potential monopoly is to give it to you and chribba? I think I would like to say no thanks, and keep a competition based market.. As pretty much always Gevlon is WRONG, and this idea is a horrible attempt to get ahead on scaremongering, and other peoples long developed brands..
Rhivre TarNec Invisible Exchequer 897	Posted - 2016.05.30 18:18:11 - [39] - Quote Termerity Faceturn wrote: Areen Sassel wrote: Not your fault, but it is rather unfortunate that your partner threw a tantrum in the few days before you made this post. A long time ago someone realized and shared the simple fact that 1+1=2. Was he throwing a tantrum for recognizing and stating a plain and obvious fact? It appears some here would make such a disingenuous assertion. Thank them for the reaction you'll get from most EVE players when you even bring up the topic of the official forums: laughter and derisive mockery and laughter and horror stories and laughter. All mature people who wish to engage in meaningful conversation, see my signature, join us there and I'll be more than happy to engage in discussion with those who are actually interested in things like facts and reason. I answer all questions and welcome all criticisms there, where it's actually worth it. Will you actually answer my questions on reddit then, as you are avoiding them here. Also, while you have obviously surveyed eve players, did you ask them for their views on Reddit as a platform for intelligent discourse about Eve. In case it is difficult to find my questions on reddit, which I assume it must be, as the fact is that you have answered 0 of them, here they are again in short bullet form: 1: When you talk about funding charitable wars, who is the "You" who you will listen to? Will it be whoever has funded you the most that month? If someone pays you 100b in broker fees per month, and asks that you do a charity invasion of an area, would you do it? 2: If the owner of the perimeter citadel changed the name to "All profits to PLEX4GOOD" would you throw your support behind them? If not, why not? If GSF opened a charity citadel, would you also throw your support behind that? 3: Have you had anything close to confirmation from CCP about their endorsement? 4: Will your hub be close enough to 4-4 to allow for offshoring 5: Assume you take over the New Eden economy (as stated in the opening section of your post), how will players who do not wish to pay their broker fees to charity be able to get a refund, will they be able to pay 0% fees, as, if you become the "New Jita" (copyright Gevlon 2016), players will have no choice but to use your citadel. 6: Have you dropped your original idea to fund "neutral service corps", and if not, how are you defining these? 7: You namedrop a lot of charities (although, B4R is not an ingame charity), do you have statements from the people who run these charities. 8: Can I as a trader choose which charities my ISK goes to? EDIT: One final question, you have followed the rules for P4G by doing this? "In order to register your intent to host a fund raising drive, you must create a thread on the In game events and gatherings forum, prefixed with the tag "PLEX for GOOD" in the subject, detailing the charity drive, and file a Support Ticket under the Community category for approval. The event may only go ahead once approval has been given by the Community Team." https://web.archive.org/web/20160222095836/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/PLEX_for_GOOD Fluffy Bunny Pic!
Alexi Stokov State War Academy Caldari State 113	Posted - 2016.05.30 18:18:50 - [40] - Quote Termerity Faceturn wrote: Areen Sassel wrote: Not your fault, but it is rather unfortunate that your partner threw a tantrum in the few days before you made this post. A long time ago someone realized and shared the simple fact that 1+1=2. Was he throwing a tantrum for recognizing and stating a plain and obvious fact? It appears some here would make such a disingenuous assertion. Thank them for the reaction you'll get from most EVE players when you even bring up the topic of the official forums: laughter and derisive mockery and laughter and horror stories and laughter. All mature people who wish to engage in meaningful conversation, see my signature, join us there and I'll be more than happy to engage in discussion with those who are actually interested in things like facts and reason. I answer all questions and welcome all criticisms there, where it's actually worth it. Why is criticism and question worth more there than here....especially since they would be the same questions and criticisms? Of course the obvious question becomes why did you post here at all if the official forums are trash?

Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 127	Posted - 2016.05.30 18:29:11 - [41] - Quote Termerity Faceturn wrote: Areen Sassel wrote: Not your fault, but it is rather unfortunate that your partner threw a tantrum in the few days before you made this post. A long time ago someone realized and shared the simple fact that 1+1=2. Was he throwing a tantrum for recognizing and stating a plain and obvious fact? It appears some here would make such a disingenuous assertion. Thank them for the reaction you'll get from most EVE players when you even bring up the topic of the official forums: laughter and derisive mockery and laughter and horror stories and laughter. All mature people who wish to engage in meaningful conversation, see my signature, join us there and I'll be more than happy to engage in discussion with those who are actually interested in things like facts and reason. I answer all questions and welcome all criticisms there, where it's actually worth it. Yes, but Termerity, these are the official forums for a reason. Official; sanctioned by CCP for the discussion of EVE-related matters, and a reliable destination for many of us. Your arrogance is really quite breathtaking. You are slandering people like me, calling us immature, liars and cretins. Please tell me specifically what you regard as wrong with these forums, set up by the makers of EVE Online as a service to the players and a vital communications tool for the developers? In my time, I've had cause to be disappointed with some aspects of the forums, but I never once doubted their importance or took the opportunity to take a side-swipe at CCP for providing them. You've handled this issue very poorly Termerity; I would like to see you continue to engage with the player base on these forums; hopefully some good can come of it if you do. Perhaps you just need to take a deep breath, calm down, and answer your critics politely and sincerely. You're beginning to appear like the Boy Scout who helped the old lady across the road - whether she wanted to cross it or not...
Cista2 Caldari Provisions Caldari State 244	Posted - 2016.05.30 18:32:52 - [42] - Quote Termerity Faceturn wrote: All mature people ...join us there No thanks. My channel: "Signatures" -
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12203	Posted - 2016.05.30 18:36:09 - [43] - Quote Anyone seriously suggesting that Reddit is a meaningful alternative to the official forums is quite honestly deluded. Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Maekchu Gunpoint Diplomacy 254	Posted - 2016.05.30 18:47:36 - [44] - Quote Termerity Faceturn wrote: All mature people who wish to engage in meaningful conversation, see my signature, join us there and I'll be more than happy to engage in discussion with those who are actually interested in things like facts and reason. I answer all questions and welcome all criticisms there, where it's actually worth it. While I still support the project itself, I have to say that I don't feel you personality is benefiting the project at all. I would suggest you find someone else to do the diplomatic/PR work for the Charity Citadel, since I don't believe you are up for the task given the interaction here on the forums. You might still do great managerial work behind the curtains, but if you don't change your way of interacting with the community, I think you will do a lot of bad PR for the project. I mean, why is it relevant for you to have this Official forums vs reddit discussion at all? You need to use both in order to promote your project, since not all eve players are using reddit and vice versa. Instead you choose to alienate the player base by calling them downright "unintelligent and immature". Also instead of having a small notice on your twitter regarding the closure and reopening of the Charity Citadel corp, you choose to post some EvE Online vs Reddit propaganda. What relevance does that post have with your project? Hopefully you will take this as constructive criticism.
Plleasure Hub Municorn 111	Posted - 2016.05.30 19:09:09 - [45] - Quote I am more active on Reddit than these forums, yet my criticisms would be the same on either. Do I really need to copy and paste my posts on your Reddit thread for them to magically become valid in your eyes? As Alexander Hamilton once said, "Don't modulate the key then not debate with me." "There's no meaningful difference between a real and a virtual world. It's pointless to ask anyone who they really are. All you can do is accept and believe in them, because whoever they are in your mind, is their true identity." GÇö Kazuto Kirigaya
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 128	Posted - 2016.05.30 19:34:32 - [46] - Quote This is a ghastly mess. I actually visit Reddit regularly; it's where I first saw the proposal published. Naturally, I hurried back over here to get a broader view. I rarely check Twitter. You know, it's entirely possible that Termerity has gone public with this far sooner than his grasp of the issues involved warranted. It looks as if he's been caught on the hop. All the blather about Chribba's involvement and discussions with CCP doesn't disguise the fact that, as yet, absolutely nothing is in place. Even Chribba only says he's 'been asked' to hold the CEO spot. He certainly doesn't seem to have confirmed his involvement. So essentially we have a back-of-the-envelope pipe-dream. The proposer hasn't considered the implications of such a scheme, nor even treated the player base to the courtesy of a properly prepared rough draft. No wonder he avoids our questions; the answers are not available to him. I'd like to invite him back here (I assume he's popped over to Reddit, where his star is in the ascendant) to answer the concerns outlined in this thread. Termerity?
Rhivre TarNec Invisible Exchequer 899	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:02:42 - [47] - Quote Termerity Faceturn wrote: Squish. OP removed. Thread taken over by trolls. Last word: Cynicism and anger only thrive in darkness. Yet they will try to drag us down every day. We who share and volunteer and try to help others must be the light. We must win the day. Be good. Be right. Believe. And yet you havent answered any questions, which you said you would. Although, good job invoking that no one in this thread is involved in helping others. Fluffy Bunny Pic!
Karin Yang Riemannian Manifold Torus 33	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:11:27 - [48] - Quote I am happy to see this fortizar. btw WTS Fortizar in Jita, price negotiable.
Plleasure Hub Municorn 117	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:16:55 - [49] - Quote This is starting to reek of scam. That or OP is simply not ready for a project of this scale. OP refuses to acknowledge legitimate concerns and has resorted to passive aggressive insults, name-calling, and self-righteous rhetoric. Termerity Faceturn wrote: Squish. OP removed. Thread taken over by trolls. Last word: Cynicism and anger only thrive in darkness. Yet they will try to drag us down every day. We who share and volunteer and try to help others must be the light. We must win the day. Be good. Be right. Believe. You're the biggest troll in this thread, OP. Your evasiveness and immature responses should be alarming to any current or prospective investors. If you keep going like this, you will destroy any credibility you have before you even anchor the citadel. Just in case you aren't running a disgusting scam and are just poorly handling a honest project, let me give you some advice: Do not insult the very people that could become your supporters. Think before you speak. Do not take criticisms as a personal attack. Anything you do publicly will attract criticism. Embrace it and learn to respond in a thoughtful way. Do not attack the character of others simply because they disagree with you. I volunteer IRL on a regular basis, and I will continue to do so for the rest of my life, because I care about my community and my fellow man. Yet, I am openly critical of charities that are poorly run or corrupt. They not only exist, but are sadly quite common. Just because you slap the word, "charity" on your project does not mean you can do no wrong. The moment you ask for public support, you are subject to scrutiny. Learn to deal with it if you want to be a leader in the community. "There's no meaningful difference between a real and a virtual world. It's pointless to ask anyone who they really are. All you can do is accept and believe in them, because whoever they are in your mind, is their true identity." GÇö Kazuto Kirigaya
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 132	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:34:18 - [50] - Quote I doubt we'll see Termerity back here to answer questions about his project. It is a shame, because there may be some merit in certain aspects of it. Alas, I haven't time to trawl the social media in order to savour every pious word. For what it's worth, I've EVEmailed Chribba, thanking him for his earlier intervention in this thread and wishing him a pleasant vacation. I've also invited him not to bother with the rest of my mail until he fully returns to EVE matters. I've outlined to him my views and concerns, which I hope he'll take in the spirit in which they're offered. Confession: I'm not a trader of any sort, so I'm very unfamiliar with what I regard as esoteric trading terminology. It seems to me, as a non-trader, that many of the concerns about trading, in connection with a Charity Citadel, are sufficiently serious in themselves to warrant further investigation. This is particularly evident from some of the Reddit responses. Echoing a previous poster's comment, I think Termerity has simply bitten off more than he can comfortably chew.

Plleasure Hub Municorn 118	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:48:00 - [51] - Quote Sasha Nemtsov wrote: Confession: I'm not a trader of any sort, so I'm very unfamiliar with what I regard as esoteric trading terminology. It seems to me, as a non-trader, that many of the concerns about trading, in connection with a Charity Citadel, are sufficiently serious in themselves to warrant further investigation. This is particularly evident from some of the Reddit responses. I believe you are referring to the concern that this project would cause a significant rise in PLEX prices. The reason for that is because 100% of the ISK earned by the citadel through broker fees would be spent on PLEX and donated to PLEX4GOOD, removing it from the game. Here is an analogy to that scenario. The state of Texas starts buying 9 billion barrels of oil a year and lighting them on fire, because for every barrel destroyed, Google agrees to donate $1 to feeding the hungry. Sure, this means that a lot more people will get food that they need. But as a result, gas prices rise 25%, making it harder for everyone to afford to travel. This solves one problem by creating another. A similar effect could occur in the PLEX market, because tons of ISK would start being spent on PLEX with the intent of destroying said PLEX for charity. "There's no meaningful difference between a real and a virtual world. It's pointless to ask anyone who they really are. All you can do is accept and believe in them, because whoever they are in your mind, is their true identity." GÇö Kazuto Kirigaya
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12205	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:59:23 - [52] - Quote Quote: Cynicism and anger only thrive in darkness. Yet they will try to drag us down every day. We who share and volunteer and try to help others must be the light. We must win the day. Be good. Be right. Believe. Pretentious as ****; and that's saying something, considering my eye apparel. Exceedingly childish, too, given that the OP is basically sticking his/her fingers in her ears and going "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOOOOU" whenever someone (like Rhivre, for instance) asks a valid question. Perhaps Reddit is the best place for this silage heap, after all. Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 133	Posted - 2016.05.30 21:08:15 - [53] - Quote Plleasure Hub wrote: Sasha Nemtsov wrote: Confession: I'm not a trader of any sort, so I'm very unfamiliar with what I regard as esoteric trading terminology. It seems to me, as a non-trader, that many of the concerns about trading, in connection with a Charity Citadel, are sufficiently serious in themselves to warrant further investigation. This is particularly evident from some of the Reddit responses. I believe you are referring to the concern that this project would cause a significant rise in PLEX prices. The reason for that is because 100% of the ISK earned by the citadel through broker fees would be spent on PLEX and donated to PLEX4GOOD, removing it from the game. Here is an analogy to that scenario. The state of Texas starts buying 9 billion barrels of oil a year and lighting them on fire, because for every barrel destroyed, Google agrees to donate $1 to feeding the hungry. Sure, this means that a lot more people will get food that they need. But as a result, gas prices rise 25%, making it harder for everyone to afford to travel. This solves one problem by creating another. A similar effect could occur in the PLEX market, because tons of ISK would start being spent on PLEX with the intent of destroying said PLEX for charity. Thank you, Plleasure Hub! Your analogy was good enough that I grasped it on first reading. The potential for real harm to the game and its players is extremely serious. I'd be surprised if CCP would even glance at the proposal in its current form. Yet, Termerity implies they're already on board. How can that be? Wishing to do my duty, I did go to Twitter and make a brief comment. Termerity replied that Chribba is indeed confirmed as CEO. Yet to hear it from the man himself though. Perhaps CCP would also like to comment, since their name has already been linked to the project...? Is there a DEV around? Some of my colleagues in the 'emergent gameplay' business have posited that changes in game mechanics might be required to make the thing work. If that's the case then this may be a long and very bumpy ride.
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 134	Posted - 2016.05.30 21:20:28 - [54] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: Quote: Cynicism and anger only thrive in darkness. Yet they will try to drag us down every day. We who share and volunteer and try to help others must be the light. We must win the day. Be good. Be right. Believe. Pretentious as ****; and that's saying something, considering my eye apparel. Exceedingly childish, too, given that the OP is basically sticking his/her fingers in her ears and going "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOOOOU" whenever someone (like Rhivre, for instance) asks a valid question. Perhaps Reddit is the best place for this silage heap, after all. O my, I really did laugh out loud! I came to the same conclusion as you, after reflecting on the language termerity uses. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being idealistic, but as I found out (as a young man), ideals have to be tested in the real world before they can hope to bear fruit. I think we were simply offering the fruits of some of our experience. The process can often seem brutal. It's clear from his reactions that Termerity found them so, and hadn't the maturity to respond effectively.
Caleb Ayrania TarNec Invisible Exchequer 314	Posted - 2016.05.30 21:31:39 - [55] - Quote Sasha Nemtsov wrote: I doubt we'll see Termerity back here to answer questions about his project. It is a shame, because there may be some merit in certain aspects of it. Alas, I haven't time to trawl the social media in order to savour every pious word. For what it's worth, I've EVEmailed Chribba, thanking him for his earlier intervention in this thread and wishing him a pleasant vacation. I've also invited him not to bother with the rest of my mail until he fully returns to EVE matters. I've outlined to him my views and concerns, which I hope he'll take in the spirit in which they're offered. Confession: I'm not a trader of any sort, so I'm very unfamiliar with what I regard as esoteric trading terminology. It seems to me, as a non-trader, that many of the concerns about trading, in connection with a Charity Citadel, are sufficiently serious in themselves to warrant further investigation. This is particularly evident from some of the Reddit responses. Echoing a previous poster's comment, I think Termerity has simply bitten off more than he can comfortably chew. The main problem is that OP is running with a fear scenario concocted in the brain of Gevlon Goblin, this fear tactic is not just wrong, its a terrible argument for a Charity oriented Citadel. There is absolutetely nothing wrong with the Idea of Charity, but OP has done ZERO planing or due diligence, except for poking a few famous people, about funding and "underwriting/security".. If anyone are genuinely interested in the Charity Concept and Citadels, I suggest they consider talking to some that actually run Citadels, or have a proper business plan for running one. I am sure many would be open to the idea, and do proper audited periods of charity profits, and maybe even donate specif renters office rent specifically to selected charities.. or similar models.. None of such was mentioned in OPs suggestion, though non neutral war/content creation was, which should get anyone even remotely interested in the Charity concept to run away.. So as mentioned I doubt OP will come back and try again, clearly he is not mature enough for a public endeavour of this type, or he might have actually considered who the MD is composed of, and not thrown around personal attacks or even posted such an unfinished BP..
Alexi Stokov State War Academy Caldari State 116	Posted - 2016.05.30 22:24:41 - [56] - Quote Termerity Faceturn wrote: Squish. OP removed. Thread taken over by trolls. Last word: Cynicism and anger only thrive in darkness. Yet they will try to drag us down every day. We who share and volunteer and try to help others must be the light. We must win the day. Be good. Be right. Believe. It's cute that you made your post and expected every poster to pat you on the back and say bravo chap,well done!!! I wonder if you believe you are this holier than thou or if this is some sort of RP act. Top tip: If you wave a gun at the police and they start shooting at you, that doesn't mean you are "doing something right".
Elizabeth Norn Nornir Research 882	Posted - 2016.05.31 00:04:47 - [57] - Quote Plleasure Hub wrote: I believe you are referring to the concern that this project would cause a significant rise in PLEX prices. The reason for that is because 100% of the ISK earned by the citadel through broker fees would be spent on PLEX and donated to PLEX4GOOD, removing it from the game. A problem I had was that only some of the ISK earned by the citadel would be going to PLEX for Good, while the rest would be used to pay mercenaries to defend the citadel, fund charity events, and even wars ("We may indeed turn out to be a driver of conflict from one end of the cluster to another"). I think without all the funds going to PLEX for Good it's very prone to corruption. Calling it a charity citadel and invoking PLEX for Good seems to me just using charity to further their own goal and let others profit from it too which is against the spirit, and letter, of PLEX for Good
Sabriz Adoudel Move along there is nothing here 5835	Posted - 2016.05.31 11:16:20 - [58] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: Anyone seriously suggesting that Reddit is a meaningful alternative to the official forums is quite honestly deluded. EVE Reddit is just pure cancer. I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12216	Posted - 2016.05.31 17:03:22 - [59] - Quote ...and it's sickening that CCP is surreptitiously trying to replace the forums for it as the primary means of player-base communication. Shame on them. Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Sabriz Adoudel Move along there is nothing here 5837	Posted - 2016.05.31 21:28:52 - [60] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: ...and it's sickening that CCP is surreptitiously trying to replace the forums for it as the primary means of player-base communication. Shame on them. Which is a bizzare decision that has really backfired on Wizards of the Coast, who replaced their forums with Reddit and now do not have any ability to moderate discussions that end up in shitstorms. Could you imagine if the CCP Mintchip incident had happened in a world when Reddit had replaced these forums? I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".



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