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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
2653
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Posted - 2016.06.06 18:32:24 -
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Slayer Liberator wrote:
I only believe in freedom for all races (yes Caldari too) and my hatred of the draganurs comes from the fact that they did start the war and all I want is peace nothing more.
Both war 200 years ago and current war 7 years ago was started by gallenteans, and not by "draganurs".
For Maker's sake... really.... draganurs?... I spilled my coffee.
Slayer Liberator wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Cain Aloga wrote:Diana Kim wrote: stiff-minded brainwashing. Their lack of reasoning. They stick to predefined ideas, imprinted into their brains by repetitive propaganda, rewriting same line over and over again Please tell me I am not the only one that sees it? I am sorry for that. Of course, it shall be "repetitive propaganda", not "repetitive". How ironic for you of all people to call anything repetitive.
Speaking about repetitions, how many times one shall repeat a thing to gallente so they finally will be able to understand it, eh?
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Slayer Liberator
The Scope
Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2016.06.06 19:04:14 -
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The war 200 years ago was started in a misguided retaliation for the 500,000 civilians killed in Nouvelle Rouvenor and the one started 7 years ago was caused by the broker NOT admiral Noir.
as for the second part, until you get some therapy. |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
1876
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Posted - 2016.06.06 19:30:53 -
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Diana Kim wrote:
Speaking about repetitions, how many times one shall repeat a thing to gallente so they finally will be able to understand it, eh?
I don't know. Keep trying, you might get through to us yet.... 
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
4269
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Posted - 2016.06.06 21:25:28 -
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Repeating a falsehood a billion times doesn't make it a billion times more true...
AKA Hambone
Author of The Deathworlders
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Arnulf Ogunkoya
Clan Ogunkoya
137
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Posted - 2016.06.06 21:42:20 -
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Slayer Liberator wrote:The war 200 years ago was started in a misguided retaliation for the 500,000 civilians killed in Nouvelle Rouvenor and the one started 7 years ago was caused by the broker NOT admiral Noir.
as for the second part, until you get some therapy.
Sorry, what?
There are reasons for thinking Noir was not truly in control of that event but where do you get The Broker from? Assuming he exists and isn't a tale mothers tell their children when they want them to grow up to be sociopaths.
I'm guessing you must be on personally friendly terms with the heads of half the intelligence agencies in the cluster to state that as a fact rather than a theory.
Anyway. What would he get out of doing such a thing?
Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.
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James Syagrius
Reclamation Technologies
1301
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Posted - 2016.06.06 21:50:22 -
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Diana Kim wrote:I spilled my coffee.
I have been told that 'we' invented coffee... aren't you being un-patriotic by drinking it?
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
4269
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Posted - 2016.06.06 21:51:07 -
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Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote:Sorry, what?
There are reasons for thinking Noir was not truly in control of that event but where do you get The Broker from? Assuming he exists and isn't a tale mothers tell their children when they want them to grow up to be sociopaths.
Well, you never know. He could be real. And so could the elf who steals sausages from naughty children at Solstice.
AKA Hambone
Author of The Deathworlders
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Slayer Liberator
The Scope
Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2016.06.06 21:56:36 -
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Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote:Slayer Liberator wrote:The war 200 years ago was started in a misguided retaliation for the 500,000 civilians killed in Nouvelle Rouvenor and the one started 7 years ago was caused by the broker NOT admiral Noir.
as for the second part, until you get some therapy. Sorry, what? There are reasons for thinking Noir was not truly in control of that event but where do you get The Broker from? Assuming he exists and isn't a tale mothers tell their children when they want them to grow up to be sociopaths. I'm guessing you must be on personally friendly terms with the heads of half the intelligence agencies in the cluster to state that as a fact rather than a theory. Anyway. What would he get out of doing such a thing?
I know that from a... oh. well still I believe that the story that Noir was himself when the event happened is most likely propaganda and not the truth so i would not fully believe any particular story anyway. |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
1876
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Posted - 2016.06.06 23:14:36 -
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Stitcher wrote:Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote:Sorry, what?
There are reasons for thinking Noir was not truly in control of that event but where do you get The Broker from? Assuming he exists and isn't a tale mothers tell their children when they want them to grow up to be sociopaths. Well, you never know. He could be real. And so could the elf who steals sausages from naughty children at Solstice.
That elf is real. I almost caught him last year.... next time, elf. Next time.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Therable
Multicultural F1 Brigade
1917
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Posted - 2016.06.07 02:14:19 -
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I always knew Diana Kim was one of the very first early adopters of the Spinmaster 9000 from the multi-ISK empire of the Mittani industries, and this thread continues to prove it.
The Federation will one day feel the hellwrath of her war as she ~twists the knife~ into Caldari traitors who disagree with her shitposts.
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
1879
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Posted - 2016.06.07 05:46:34 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:I always knew Diana Kim was one of the very first early adopters of the Spinmaster 9000 from the multi-ISK empire of the Mittani industries, and this thread continues to prove it.
The Federation will one day feel the hellwrath of her war as she ~twists the knife~ into Caldari traitors who disagree with her shitposts.
We all secretly fear that she has the power to do this. To be honest, I believe our trolling is just a coping method for that fear....
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1175
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Posted - 2016.06.07 05:58:32 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:I always knew Diana Kim was one of the very first early adopters of the Spinmaster 9000 from the multi-ISK empire of the Mittani industries, and this thread continues to prove it.
The Federation will one day feel the hellwrath of her war as she ~twists the knife~ into Caldari traitors who disagree with her shitposts.
We all secretly fear that she has the power to do this. To be honest, I believe our trolling is just a coping method for that fear....
She has just about as much power as I do. Make alot of noise, be bloody irreverent and be as relevant as a gnat on winter-time.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
1879
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Posted - 2016.06.07 14:46:02 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:I always knew Diana Kim was one of the very first early adopters of the Spinmaster 9000 from the multi-ISK empire of the Mittani industries, and this thread continues to prove it.
The Federation will one day feel the hellwrath of her war as she ~twists the knife~ into Caldari traitors who disagree with her shitposts.
We all secretly fear that she has the power to do this. To be honest, I believe our trolling is just a coping method for that fear.... She has just about as much power as I do. Make alot of noise, be bloody irreverent and be as relevant as a gnat on winter-time.
Negative. She is Caldari, and she has a just cause. No way can she be defeated! We should all know better. If we know what's good for us we mindlessly agree to support her and never question her vastly superior intellectual capacity and the righteous nature of her cause again! 
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Multicultural F1 Brigade
6013
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Posted - 2016.06.07 17:50:04 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:The destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor was a terroist act and completely unecessary. How is this a hard question deserving this many pages of discussion? Mr. Tuulinen.... You disappoint me GREATLY. . . by lack of argumentation to your opinion. Really, can you think it might NOT be a terrorist act? I considered you to be more.... you know, reasonable. Have I ever told you why I hate gallente? Well, there are several reasons. And one, that prevents me to speak with most of them with respect is their, excuse me, stiff-minded brainwashing. Their lack of reasoning. They stick to predefined ideas, imprinted into their brains by repetetive propaganda, rewriting same line over and over again as they watch their holos, for example, that democracy is good, that freedom is good, without even realizing what stands behind these words. Have you ever tried to argue with gallentean about freedom or democracy? That's like talking to a wall. Don't tell me you got hooked on propaganda too. Don't be like THEM.
It was blown up by terrorists and it provided the UNats with a pretence to seize power and initiate the bombardment of Home. What ever you think of Gallentean society, culture and politics I really don't see how attacking that city could be called necessary.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
2653
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Posted - 2016.06.07 22:33:42 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:The destruction of Nouvelle Rouvenor was a terroist act and completely unecessary. How is this a hard question deserving this many pages of discussion? Mr. Tuulinen.... You disappoint me GREATLY. . . by lack of argumentation to your opinion. Really, can you think it might NOT be a terrorist act? I considered you to be more.... you know, reasonable. Have I ever told you why I hate gallente? Well, there are several reasons. And one, that prevents me to speak with most of them with respect is their, excuse me, stiff-minded brainwashing. Their lack of reasoning. They stick to predefined ideas, imprinted into their brains by repetetive propaganda, rewriting same line over and over again as they watch their holos, for example, that democracy is good, that freedom is good, without even realizing what stands behind these words. Have you ever tried to argue with gallentean about freedom or democracy? That's like talking to a wall. Don't tell me you got hooked on propaganda too. Don't be like THEM. It was blown up by terrorists and it provided the UNats with a pretence to seize power and initiate the bombardment of Home. What ever you think of Gallentean society, culture and politics I really don't see how attacking that city could be called necessary.
They are not terrorists, they are a culture preservation society.
Have you ever talked with any of them and asked them if they are terrorists?
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1216
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Posted - 2016.06.07 22:48:43 -
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Terrorists identify themselves as terrorists when asked?
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
2654
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Posted - 2016.06.07 22:49:52 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Terrorists identify themselves as terrorists when asked?
Of course.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1217
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Posted - 2016.06.07 22:54:29 -
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Doesn't revealing that your a terrorist kinda stop you from performing terrorist acts? Giving up the element of surprise and such? Not to mention if your fighting for a cause your not a terrorist your a soldier. (Not in the sense your obviously used to with training and ranks I mean more along the lines of fighting for a cause as opposed to fighting for..... Ugh.... Chaos) |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
1885
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Posted - 2016.06.07 22:58:31 -
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Kimmy's logic is infallible. Do not question it. Of course a terrorist would Identity themselfs as terrorists, I mean, every Gallente that she's ever accused of terrorism has done such.... right?
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1217
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Posted - 2016.06.07 23:02:31 -
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Well....... It could be some cultural thing, never know... |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1176
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Posted - 2016.06.08 01:30:00 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Well....... It could be some cultural thing, never know...
Probably because it's trendy at the time. The common Gallentean are fashion and trend victims.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1217
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Posted - 2016.06.08 02:08:46 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Well....... It could be some cultural thing, never know... Probably because it's trendy at the time. The common Gallentean is a fashion and trend victim. There was this one time a Sani Sabik derivative became immensely popular with thousands of Gallenteans as members. All they do, however, is dress like, well, pale pontiffs and such, drink lots of red juice and act like cartoon villains. This went on for about a month before they decided that dressing up as Heth was 'the ****'.
I kinda miss the heth days. They were..... Well...... Let's not go there..... |
Jason Galente
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
488
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Posted - 2016.06.08 02:49:47 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Terrorists identify themselves as terrorists when asked? Of course.
Oh honey no.
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Aradina Varren
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
22
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Posted - 2016.06.08 02:54:11 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Terrorists identify themselves as terrorists when asked? Of course.
You.. Uh.. How? How have you not died yet? How did you not drop yourself on your head as a baby? |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1176
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Posted - 2016.06.08 03:17:30 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Well....... It could be some cultural thing, never know... Probably because it's trendy at the time. The common Gallentean is a fashion and trend victim. There was this one time a Sani Sabik derivative became immensely popular with thousands of Gallenteans as members. All they do, however, is dress like, well, pale pontiffs and such, drink lots of red juice and act like cartoon villains. This went on for about a month before they decided that dressing up as Heth was 'the ****'. I kinda miss the heth days. They were..... Well...... Let's not go there.....
If I recall the first time some Gallentean had the bright idea of parading around in a Heth costume just a month after Enturrer's execution, the Black Eagles came down on the whole group of Provist cosplayers hard. After what looked to be the third time this had happened they finally decided to stop that highly visible crackdown and just make people disappear instead.
Fast forward to Roden's administration and him making it very clear that what the Black Eagles did was not okay and people were back to dressing up as Provists again. For a month at least.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
Heiian Conglomerate
311
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Posted - 2016.06.08 03:52:18 -
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TIL I should follow Gallente cosplay politics. Even better than the mindclash idol rumor mill.
~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~
GÇ£Nabesitasutonekisu-tagi, kiorei Orte Jaitovalte hessami-akogi useuus sufat. Hakkit garuketsi.GÇ¥
-Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
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Karina Ivanovich
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
122
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Posted - 2016.06.08 03:59:49 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Doesn't revealing that your a terrorist kinda stop you from performing terrorist acts? Giving up the element of surprise and such? Not to mention if your fighting for a cause your not a terrorist your a soldier. (Not in the sense your obviously used to with training and ranks I mean more along the lines of fighting for a cause as opposed to fighting for..... Ugh.... Chaos)
What element of surprise? The only terrorists that have ever hurt my people on a large scale were wearing uniforms. Gallente Naval Uniforms to be specific.
Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1220
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Posted - 2016.06.08 04:45:53 -
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Karina Ivanovich wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Doesn't revealing that your a terrorist kinda stop you from performing terrorist acts? Giving up the element of surprise and such? Not to mention if your fighting for a cause your not a terrorist your a soldier. (Not in the sense your obviously used to with training and ranks I mean more along the lines of fighting for a cause as opposed to fighting for..... Ugh.... Chaos) What element of surprise? The only terrorists that have ever hurt my people on a large scale were wearing uniforms. Gallente Naval Uniforms to be specific.
Oh it's quite simple, if your a terrorist and identify yourself as being an enemy to the people your attacking beforehand how is it supposed to be a terrorist action? That would just be an assault. Element of surprise is kinda key. Haven't you noticed after most terrorist attacks the aggressor makes a statement claiming responsibility after the attack? If its clear who attacked then how is it terrorism? The reasoning was well known when the drop ships landed. The gallantes who attacked your people weren't terrorists, they were soldiers fighting a war. They made their point clear right from the get go. Your people saw them and knew to run, those who died, well... The Amarr in a church that was randomly firebombed didn't see it coming. That was a terrorist action. Whether or not I agree with it being right or not is irrelevant but in every sense of the word THAT is terrorism. |
Karina Ivanovich
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
123
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Posted - 2016.06.08 05:16:28 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Karina Ivanovich wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Doesn't revealing that your a terrorist kinda stop you from performing terrorist acts? Giving up the element of surprise and such? Not to mention if your fighting for a cause your not a terrorist your a soldier. (Not in the sense your obviously used to with training and ranks I mean more along the lines of fighting for a cause as opposed to fighting for..... Ugh.... Chaos) What element of surprise? The only terrorists that have ever hurt my people on a large scale were wearing uniforms. Gallente Naval Uniforms to be specific. Oh it's quite simple, if your a terrorist and identify yourself as being an enemy to the people your attacking beforehand how is it supposed to be a terrorist action? That would just be an assault. Element of surprise is kinda key. Haven't you noticed after most terrorist attacks the aggressor makes a statement claiming responsibility after the attack? If its clear who attacked then how is it terrorism? The reasoning was well known when the drop ships landed. The gallantes who attacked your people weren't terrorists, they were soldiers fighting a war. They made their point clear right from the get go. Your people saw them and knew to run, those who died, well... The Amarr in a church that was randomly firebombed didn't see it coming. That was a terrorist action. Whether or not I agree with it being right or not is irrelevant but in every sense of the word THAT is terrorism.
Soldiers don't intentionally kill civilians Deitra. That is what terrorists do.
Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1177
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Posted - 2016.06.08 05:58:26 -
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Karina Ivanovich wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Karina Ivanovich wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Doesn't revealing that your a terrorist kinda stop you from performing terrorist acts? Giving up the element of surprise and such? Not to mention if your fighting for a cause your not a terrorist your a soldier. (Not in the sense your obviously used to with training and ranks I mean more along the lines of fighting for a cause as opposed to fighting for..... Ugh.... Chaos) What element of surprise? The only terrorists that have ever hurt my people on a large scale were wearing uniforms. Gallente Naval Uniforms to be specific. Oh it's quite simple, if your a terrorist and identify yourself as being an enemy to the people your attacking beforehand how is it supposed to be a terrorist action? That would just be an assault. Element of surprise is kinda key. Haven't you noticed after most terrorist attacks the aggressor makes a statement claiming responsibility after the attack? If its clear who attacked then how is it terrorism? The reasoning was well known when the drop ships landed. The gallantes who attacked your people weren't terrorists, they were soldiers fighting a war. They made their point clear right from the get go. Your people saw them and knew to run, those who died, well... The Amarr in a church that was randomly firebombed didn't see it coming. That was a terrorist action. Whether or not I agree with it being right or not is irrelevant but in every sense of the word THAT is terrorism. Soldiers don't intentionally kill civilians Deitra. That is what terrorists do.
Soldiers do kill civilians if they are ordered to. As for why, either it's bad intel or command knows something and aren't telling.
Does not make it any less excusable.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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