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Passcal
Darksaber Technologies Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:06:00 -
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Here's my question, would an Interdictor be any use in a small gang without a sphere launcher? I'm asking because i'm almost in one but quite a while off the sphere's. there will be another dictor in the gang to launch bubbles.
Also which is better, the caldari or the gallante one?
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:40:00 -
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Flycatchers make superb anti-ceptor ships with or without the sphere launcher.I'm not sure about the Eris but I know with decent skills the T1 version can *****stuff as well.
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Jenna Sky
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Posted - 2007.03.01 01:53:00 -
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I 0.0 Rat in a Sabre. It's awesome. 7 ACs and 1 Salvager.
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Arhilion
Gallente LEG1ON
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Posted - 2007.03.01 02:10:00 -
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I love my Eris 0.0 Rats stand no chance. I dont have a sphere launcher either but its a good ship overall in my opinion.
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Barry Cuda
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.01 02:23:00 -
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You'll just be higher up on the primary chain. Stick to a T1 destroyer until you have the bubbles.
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Murukan
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.03.01 02:24:00 -
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Well the sabre melts inties in a hearbeat. However they are pretty expensive. In terms of price the gallente one is better than the caldari. I would reccomend waiting to use it until you get spheres though cause you will be the primary every time.
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.03.01 02:38:00 -
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Interdictors are ok for small gangs but to be brutally honest, tho they have extra slots and a little more cpu/grid plus some other minor tweaks, they just arn't that much better than the basic destroyers. Infact its hard to justify the 30m isk for one.
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Stutka Driver
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.01 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nian Banks Interdictors are ok for small gangs but to be brutally honest, tho they have extra slots and a little more cpu/grid plus some other minor tweaks, they just arn't that much better than the basic destroyers. Infact its hard to justify the 30m isk for one.
I've got apx. 70 solo kills, and apx. 20 assists in my Sabre this month, this would deffinately not be possible with a destroyer, or without the bubble launcher. The loot from the ships I destroy supports the cost of my ship and then some. I can't imagine what experience you are basing your advice upon.
Sure, fly a destroyer until you can use the interdiction launcher, but the roles and utility of the two ships are far removed from one another. More preparatory experience can be gained from flying interceptors as a warm up.
Typically it's "minor tweaks" in piloting tactics that are required to make the most of an interdictor.
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.03.01 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Nian Banks on 01/03/2007 13:44:00
Originally by: Stutka Driver
Originally by: Nian Banks Interdictors are ok for small gangs but to be brutally honest, tho they have extra slots and a little more cpu/grid plus some other minor tweaks, they just arn't that much better than the basic destroyers. Infact its hard to justify the 30m isk for one.
I've got apx. 70 solo kills, and apx. 20 assists in my Sabre this month, this would deffinately not be possible with a destroyer, or without the bubble launcher. The loot from the ships I destroy supports the cost of my ship and then some. I can't imagine what experience you are basing your advice upon.
Sure, fly a destroyer until you can use the interdiction launcher, but the roles and utility of the two ships are far removed from one another. More preparatory experience can be gained from flying interceptors as a warm up.
Typically it's "minor tweaks" in piloting tactics that are required to make the most of an interdictor.
Hrm thats interesting, I've heard thrasher pilots that say they get pretty much the same amount of kills, and wowie the thrasher as an artillery boat has a longer optimal range and more hitpoints.
With respect to you ofcourse I will say that the bubble has a use on an interdictor but there are limmits to its use.
So as a thrasher goes for 1m isk, I will repeat myself in regards to interdictors "its hard to justify the 30m isk for one." Thats for solo pvp mind you, for gang warfare the interdictor has a unique role.
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Vathar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.01 14:00:00 -
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a trasher can't speedtank like a sabre can ... with a sabre, you get a nice amount of frig kills, a sabre can kill bigger ships ...
And by not fitting a sphere launcher, you save 100 CPU, this can help, although I would not consider NOT fitting it since it's sooo useful !!
Originally by: Radeberger If you plan to make your alliance combat based, recruit pvpers with mining alts rather than miners with pvp alts
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.01 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nian Banks Edited by: Nian Banks on 01/03/2007 13:44:00
Originally by: Stutka Driver
Originally by: Nian Banks Interdictors are ok for small gangs but to be brutally honest, tho they have extra slots and a little more cpu/grid plus some other minor tweaks, they just arn't that much better than the basic destroyers. Infact its hard to justify the 30m isk for one.
I've got apx. 70 solo kills, and apx. 20 assists in my Sabre this month, this would deffinately not be possible with a destroyer, or without the bubble launcher. The loot from the ships I destroy supports the cost of my ship and then some. I can't imagine what experience you are basing your advice upon.
Sure, fly a destroyer until you can use the interdiction launcher, but the roles and utility of the two ships are far removed from one another. More preparatory experience can be gained from flying interceptors as a warm up.
Typically it's "minor tweaks" in piloting tactics that are required to make the most of an interdictor.
Hrm thats interesting, I've heard thrasher pilots that say they get pretty much the same amount of kills, and wowie the thrasher as an artillery boat has a longer optimal range and more hitpoints.
With respect to you ofcourse I will say that the bubble has a use on an interdictor but there are limmits to its use.
So as a thrasher goes for 1m isk, I will repeat myself in regards to interdictors "its hard to justify the 30m isk for one." Thats for solo pvp mind you, for gang warfare the interdictor has a unique role.
The same amount of kills? We're talking solo, in 0.0 here, not pirating. I really doubt it but if you say so. . .
I was gonna mention "Sabre Driver" here before I saw his post, he's godly with that thing tbh, but the bubble dropper is an absolute requirement. It's certain extremely hard to justify the price on a dictor if you can't fit the launcher. Hard as in impossible unless you got mucho cash to blow. - - - - - - - - - -
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.03.01 15:59:00 -
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Ok well that's one thing I would never deny and infact have the love of it also, Speed Tanking Sabres, yes in that one setup where you fly as fast as an inty and eat them for breakfast, lunch and tea is true. I wouldn't deny it, its the only big difference other than the bubble when compared to destroyers.
But the thing is, the sabre isn't as good a sniper as the thrasher, the thrasher shines with its +50% optimal. Its not just apples for apples. Also the sabre only has a marginal increase in resists and has less hitpoints.
Thrasher has +30 shield hp, the Sabre has only +10% to em. Thrasher has +27 armor hp, the Sabre once again only has +10% to em. Thrasher has +12 power grid, the Sabre has +58 cpu.
The compensation is the extra mid slot in a sabre, +215m/s, +18km targeting range and the interdiction launcher.
But sadly I still see it much of a muchness, the sabre speed tanks and has a dedicated role in 0.0 warfare, the thrasher snipes and has a dedicated role in frigate killing.
I don't see how its hard to imagine a 7x280mm pure sniping thrasher can rake in the kills. the difference is that you should expect to loose a thrasher every so often but who cares? Its cheap.
Anyway I aint bashing sabres, I'm saying it needs a boost. First thing it deserves as all interdictors deserve, is their t1 versions bonus bonus. +50% optimal -25% rof. Simple realy. Oh and they need more resists and their power grid and hitpoints to be increased to the destroyers amount.
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Morreia
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:16:00 -
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The point is though unless you use cheecky setups (something I am very proud of my ability to do) your not going to get many kills but frigs of intys in a normal dessy whereas with interdictor, because of speed tank you can take on larger targets with more ease and therefore even if the number of kills is similar I'd put money of the fact that the kills someone gets in a interdictor is of a higher quality.
WOW that was a long sentence.
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:53:00 -
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Yes you can but it helps alot to add a bubble launcher. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space. |

Nir
The Doldrums
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:56:00 -
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You will be primary lots as people assume Interdictor equals bubbles. I would rather have a Thrasher or Assault Frigate purely for anti frigate purposes.
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