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Xio2
FAO Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.01 06:31:00 -
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while reading the what should MC do post, I thought of something that may have been asked before but i am really not sure. I am a neutral entity in this war and do not have anything to do with either side.
what if renter corps/alliances simply stopped paying bob isk while using their claimed space over the coming months? this is if, in fact, that there are monthly due's for npc'ing/mining and living in bob conquered space.
the reason i ask is... what is bob going to do? they are very tied up at the moment and cannot afford to send gank squads out to pick on their pets and certainly can't afford the cap ships to leave the main fronts.
I am just throwing this out there. please dont flame me just for the sake of it. I'm not someones alt
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Minmatar
Liberty Rogues
Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.03.01 06:46:00 -
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with no doubt somewere a bob officer sits and thinks how much he dosnt like you pointing that out!... he he
reat thinking thoug' im sure some ppl will take advantage of the situation.
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Xori Ruscuv
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.01 06:54:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 01/03/2007 06:54:46
While reading your post (and the posts of many others), I thought of something that may have been asked before but I really am not sure.
What if nobody cares? What if it really doesn't matter... especially if you're neutral, why are you taking up forum database space posing speculation about whether Diane is pregnant with Amy's baby, and whether Brad slept with John's son? Oh... OH... and BOB is really lead by George Bush, I'm SURE Haliburton is involved somehow... Oh.. OH!!!! And Tony Blair runs LV!!!!!!!!!111111111111
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.03.01 06:56:00 -
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Interesting suggestion....
.. but it all depends on who BoB's tennants believe will come out ontop in this EVE-wide war.
So far from what one can gather from battle reports and so forth, there hasn't been a clear indication yet that BoB's days are numbered. Yes there are potentially enough entities rallied against them to eventually inflict catastrophic losses on BoB, but their efforts have not yet reached critical mass.
However, should BoB start to lose large chunks of territory I would be very surprised if the rent paying tennants keep forking out for a non-existing service... i.e BoB protection.
Right now BoB's tennants will probably keep paying rent.... but should the Goons wrap up the LV situation and start sending large amounts of forces further south... the situation could change very quickly.
It all depends on how well the coalition are doing.
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Aira Phlux
Xoth Inc
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.01 08:57:00 -
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The situtation described is unlikely for many reasons but in the event of the situation described, its possible that a merc corp would be hired to deal with the problem.
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Limlox
Caldari
Anti-BoB Flash Mob
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Posted - 2007.03.01 09:04:00 -
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Edited by: Limlox on 01/03/2007 09:01:03
Not if the renters used their iskies to hire the Merc corps to hit BoB first
On the wagon
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.01 12:22:00 -
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Less "renter" corps pay isk to BoB than you'd think
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Mariko San
Saints Surrounded
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Posted - 2007.03.01 12:52:00 -
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The problem you have if you are a bob pet in this situation is:
(i) if you stop paying and bob win then bob will come and turf you out in the space of days
(ii) if you stop paying and bob lose then you will soon get turfed out by the victors because Feyth is some prime real estate and the groups that are there have no chance of holding their space, except maybe for CORM.
So the only possibility you have to hold your space is to pay, unless you have already decided to make as much isk as possible over the next month or two before getting turfed out one way or another and moving somewhere else.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.01 12:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Mariko San
The problem you have if you are a bob pet in this situation is:
(i) if you stop paying and bob win then bob will come and turf you out in the space of days
(ii) if you stop paying and bob lose then you will soon get turfed out by the victors because Feyth is some prime real estate and the groups that are there have no chance of holding their space, except maybe for CORM.
So the only possibility you have to hold your space is to pay, unless you have already decided to make as much isk as possible over the next month or two before getting turfed out one way or another and moving somewhere else.
What about choice 3, talk to the Coalition, switch sides and fight BoB in exchange for the promise to keep your space after the war as an independent alliance?
Diplomacy is rarely ever just 2 options.
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Mariko San
Saints Surrounded
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Posted - 2007.03.01 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Mariko San
The problem you have if you are a bob pet in this situation is:
(i) if you stop paying and bob win then bob will come and turf you out in the space of days
(ii) if you stop paying and bob lose then you will soon get turfed out by the victors because Feyth is some prime real estate and the groups that are there have no chance of holding their space, except maybe for CORM.
So the only possibility you have to hold your space is to pay, unless you have already decided to make as much isk as possible over the next month or two before getting turfed out one way or another and moving somewhere else.
What about choice 3, talk to the Coalition, switch sides and fight BoB in exchange for the promise to keep your space after the war as an independent alliance?
Diplomacy is rarely ever just 2 options.
Yes but tbh there are only about 1 or 2 entities there that would anything to the fight, but you are correct, there is that option.
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Limlox
Caldari
Anti-BoB Flash Mob
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Posted - 2007.03.01 13:17:00 -
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but this war isn't about fighting for territory for most of the Northern powers.
It's about overthrowing BoB and my incentive is the fact that I don't personally feel that BoB deserve all they have achieved though that is another arguement altogether.
It's only BoB and those that stand to defend BoB that are at risk if the coalition achieves what it set out to do.
Therefore, those that don't align themselves with BoB may stand a chance of surviving where they are.
OK, maybe another great power might try to bully them out later, but then there's also a chance that many more may follow suit of other powers in that stations and space are opened up to smaller corps who don't feel they can hold their own. Basically non-reds.. now what a future that could be 
On the wagon
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.01 13:19:00 -
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Sigh...well for starters they would have to get all their stuff out of the outpost they are using, because I doubt that docking rights would extend more than a few minutes after they change sides.
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Geeknik
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Noluck Ned
Sigh...well for starters they would have to get all their stuff out of the outpost they are using, because I doubt that docking rights would extend more than a few minutes after they change sides.
I could be wrong, but don't the renter corps control the stations and thus the docking rights? Unless I'm missing your point. 
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Torshin
TARDZ
Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.03.01 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Geeknik
Originally by: Noluck Ned
Sigh...well for starters they would have to get all their stuff out of the outpost they are using, because I doubt that docking rights would extend more than a few minutes after they change sides.
I could be wrong, but don't the renter corps control the stations and thus the docking rights? Unless I'm missing your point.
Some renters do some renters don't.
To address the OP and others, maybe some people are waiting to see who comes out ahead in this war before showing true colors and turning on old friends but others feel that BOB has granted them with access to safe and rich 0.0 and why should we betray them just so we can earn a little more ISK.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.01 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Geeknik
Originally by: Noluck Ned
Sigh...well for starters they would have to get all their stuff out of the outpost they are using, because I doubt that docking rights would extend more than a few minutes after they change sides.
I could be wrong, but don't the renter corps control the stations and thus the docking rights? Unless I'm missing your point.
Most renters don't, a few do (usually the larger renting alliances). Gunboat Diplomacy, for example, has full sovereignty over their own station.
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Gallente
Gooch Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.03.01 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Malachon Draco
What about choice 3, talk to the Coalition, switch sides and fight BoB in exchange for the promise to keep your space after the war as an independent alliance?
Diplomacy is rarely ever just 2 options.
It's a nice thought, but no alliance in the coalition could ever guarentee space that they don't directly control when the war finally ends.
As we see in the ISS surrenders to KOS thread promises made by one member of the coalition will not be honored by the others, in fact they will deploy specifically to prevent it.
Bob allies would be fools to accept any deal offered by a coalition member unless it was individually and publically endorsed by all members of the coalition, and that isn't gonna happen.
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Dog Solitude
Equilibrium LLC
United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.03.01 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 01/03/2007 07:12:26
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I don't understand why we should care. I don't understand why MC has any obligation to appear in any certain way to the rest of us. Nor BOB. In fact, I personally tire of seeing people go on and on as if they believe that BOB or MC owes them something - whether that something is an explaination or "true neutrality". Such attitude is every bit as pompous and arrogant as you say BOB/MC/friends are.
Oh man, its refreshing to hear a voice of reason on occasion on COAD. Despite the massive amount of respect MC has had in the past, I guess its just become more convenient to label them and hate them for whatever you think (read: want) their association with your enemies to be. Pathetic tbh.
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