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V4MPIRELLA ANATOLIA WOLF	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:01:00 - [1] Edited by: V4MPIRELLA on 02/03/2007 08:01:19 i saw in map that sov changed in map for RZR and station name changed is there a new station ping pong what is going on anyone know ?
Serdar Cetin	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:07:00 - [2] Yes Die Bobo !
Aira Phlux Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:15:00 - [3] 9cg has been fought over for a couple of weeks now. Let the ping pong commence \o/
V4MPIRELLA ANATOLIA WOLF	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:17:00 - [4] is that mean Razor get the station
Aira Phlux Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:35:00 - [5] Who ever has sov. usually has the station in the system also as it is not very hard to perform a take over of a stn once sov is claimed. At the time of writing I believe razor are the current owners. I'd expect that to change very soon.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:38:00 - [6] Originally by: Aira Phlux At the time of writing I believe razor are the current owners. I'd expect that to change very soon. This is correct, we're playing ping pong with bob. When any significant things change you can expect an announcement. We're just not too fond of officially beating our chest for minor things like this. Even though some of our members are very active here.
Apple Boy Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:40:00 - [7] razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing.
Apple Boy Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:42:00 - [8] damn I guess I'm too slow at hitting the post reply button, the beat me too it
ArchenTheGreat Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.02 09:05:00 - [9] Originally by: Fred0 This is correct, we're playing ping pong with bob. When any significant things change you can expect an announcement. We're just not too fond of officially beating our chest for minor things like this. Even though some of our members are very active here. Minor or not congratulation for doing this. I will do my best to help you keep it.
crudhunch Templars of Space CORE.	Posted - 2007.03.02 10:07:00 - [10] Originally by: ArchenTheGreat Minor or not congratulation for doing this. I will do my best to help you keep it. I'll second this. Grats Razor, and I'll be there to help you as best we can.
comewithme	Posted - 2007.03.02 12:51:00 - [11] yey we keep on grinding thouse pesky BoD
comewithme	Posted - 2007.03.02 12:51:00 - [12] yey we keep on grinding thouse pesky BoD
Mullacaust Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.02 12:53:00 - [13] hmm this is starting to look like WOW you have to kill BoD members to complet the quest 345632456 of 10000000000 BoD killed Sig Removed. Please check image source. -Kaemonn LEAVE MY SIGS ALONE
Mullacaust Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.02 12:53:00 - [14] hmm this is starting to look like WOW you have to kill BoD members to complet the quest 345632456 of 10000000000 BoD killed Sig Removed. Please check image source. -Kaemonn LEAVE MY SIGS ALONE
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.02 12:56:00 - [15] Originally by: comewithme yey we keep on grinding thouse pesky BoD In ... ? What's the name of the caldari rookie ship again ? ___________ Muuuhhh !!!
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.02 12:56:00 - [16] Originally by: comewithme yey we keep on grinding thouse pesky BoD In ... ? What's the name of the caldari rookie ship again ? ___________ Muuuhhh !!!
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 12:57:00 - [17] Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. From the look of things, BoB has already started the tower spam. Hope you can keep up! Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 12:57:00 - [18] Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. From the look of things, BoB has already started the tower spam. Hope you can keep up! Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 12:58:00 - [19] Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. So Razor will be doing the POS spamming, and BOB doing the POS seiging? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 12:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. So Razor will be doing the POS spamming, and BOB doing the POS seiging? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 13:02:00 - [21] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. So Razor will be doing the POS spamming, and BOB doing the POS seiging? Was the other way around last night, fanboi. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 13:02:00 - [22] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. So Razor will be doing the POS spamming, and BOB doing the POS seiging? Was the other way around last night, fanboi. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 13:06:00 - [23] Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 13:05:41 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. So Razor will be doing the POS spamming, and BOB doing the POS seiging? Was the other way around last night, fanboi. Razor are destroying POS's? or did sov magically change long enuff for to shoot the station? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.02 13:14:00 - [24] Good job razor, been some... interesting fights out there... its certainly very contested, rzr actually had sov a while ago and bob defended the station till they could knock out a pos, it'll be interesting (well.. no it wont.. pos warfare is ****.) from here on in. Holding 9-cg and chipping away at ED- etc. is whats in store for us now... if we can claim a few more systems we're almost through bobs outer pet meatshield! The real hard work is still to come
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 13:34:00 - [25] There's close to 50 moons in system, so no telling how long this could go on. Fact is, if BoB has to commit forces to this system, which we really haven't seen much of them there lately, it just means they can't be somewhere else to defend. Last night, they hastily anchored a large tower at 8-7 with nothing but a Hil class Mom and recon in system. We quickly ammassed a gang to pounce on it. Though we were thin on capital support due to the timing, when I logged off it was down under 30% shields, so it should be reinforced now, assuming it had stront. The 2 pilots didn't provide much resistance. They managed to anchor 3 large beams, but only two made it online, and one warp scrambling battery, which was only online briefly, and taken down mid-siege. The Hil did exit the shields one time, and managed to snag one of our Rokhs at the expense of a few fighters of its own.
QwaarJet Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.02 13:36:00 - [26] Edited by: QwaarJet on 02/03/2007 13:33:02 If BoB comes back down and trys to play ping pong, it means they are here and not elsewhere. If they don't come back down, then the system is secured and we can continue on through Querious with the little to no resistance we've had as late.Either way, we win. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimeter Of Wisdom.Run!"
Skoot Gallente Southern Tactical Fighter Unit	Posted - 2007.03.02 13:43:00 - [27] Originally by: QwaarJet Edited by: QwaarJet on 02/03/2007 13:33:02 If BoB comes back down and trys to play ping pong, it means they are here and not elsewhere. If they don't come back down, then the system is secured and we can continue on through Querious with the little to no resistance we've had as late.Either way, we win. Well , im looking at bob kb and the northern entities since the war started . As far as i can tell you , you havent managed to score a single victory versus bob . Are you guys suffering from the ASCN syndrome ?
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.02 13:47:00 - [28] Querious is being taken from BoB since the start of the war. Slowly but steadily. We are now having the most fun anyone could dream of in a MMORPG: doomsday devices and POS warfare. FIX has nothing do to with this conflict, they are cool. But BoB must go so the Coalition is doing what needs to be done to take BoB's space. This will take monthes. ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.
Noggy Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 13:48:00 - [29] Quote: Well , im looking at bob kb and the northern entities since the war started . As far as i can tell you , you havent managed to score a single victory versus bob . Are you guys suffering from the ASCN syndrome ? Hey, if you are going to smack every thread you are in then at least try and make it semi believeable ok?
Skoot Gallente Southern Tactical Fighter Unit	Posted - 2007.03.02 13:50:00 - [30] Originally by: Noggy Quote: Well , im looking at bob kb and the northern entities since the war started . As far as i can tell you , you havent managed to score a single victory versus bob . Are you guys suffering from the ASCN syndrome ? Hey, if you are going to smack every thread you are in then at least try and make it semi believeable ok? Speaking about what lad ? Is my first post on those forums in years :P
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 13:52:00 - [31] Originally by: Skoot Originally by: QwaarJet Edited by: QwaarJet on 02/03/2007 13:33:02 If BoB comes back down and trys to play ping pong, it means they are here and not elsewhere. If they don't come back down, then the system is secured and we can continue on through Querious with the little to no resistance we've had as late.Either way, we win. Well , im looking at bob kb and the northern entities since the war started . As far as i can tell you , you havent managed to score a single victory versus bob . Are you guys suffering from the ASCN syndrome ? That isnt true, d2 have managed to DD 20 odd BS last week.. dispite the forum bravado, i dont believe either d2 or the other northern coalition really expected to be able to match BOB 1 on 1.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:01:00 - [32] Originally by: Skoot Originally by: QwaarJet Edited by: QwaarJet on 02/03/2007 13:33:02 If BoB comes back down and trys to play ping pong, it means they are here and not elsewhere. If they don't come back down, then the system is secured and we can continue on through Querious with the little to no resistance we've had as late.Either way, we win. Well , im looking at bob kb and the northern entities since the war started . As far as i can tell you , you havent managed to score a single victory versus bob . Are you guys suffering from the ASCN syndrome ? You're just a fanboi/probable alt, but I'll bite. Right now we're not trying to outclass bob, because despite the fanboyism/chestbeating/condescention they are some of the best players in the game. What we are trying to do is make them fight a multi-front war as well as forcing their friends/vassals/pets/slaves/whatever to fight. At this point, both sides are succeeding. We're forcing a multi-front war on bob and beating up on their friends, and bob is doing a great job keeping all their fronts at bay most of the time. any other alliance would have started to crumble by now in the face of what bob is being forced to endure. They're doing a remarkable job of it. As far as the "ASCN" syndrom goes, this is a completely different situation, and any comparison to such is completely brainless. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
Dekiri Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:04:00 - [33] Talking about "no single victory" is quite funny after BoB has been forced to leave LV dieing. --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur
Skoot Gallente Southern Tactical Fighter Unit	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:06:00 - [34] Guys are you out of your minds , if i doubt some words from a north alliance member i get myself as a bob alt pet slave whatever ... I was trying to understand how some of the RZR guys are claiming "either way we win" when they and the rest of the people who try to get 9cg where not able to score a single victory over BOB . I was under the impresion that you have to kill ships to win a war ( ASCN FTW ) . Anyway im out of this nonsense forums , wondering how far this histeria will go
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:12:00 - [35] Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 14:06:56 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic You're just a fanboi fond of this "insult" arent you.. why do you assume that everyone that doesnt hold your opinions is automatically a "fanboi" of your enemy? when you called me it.. did you actually consider that if i was such a hugh fan of BOB, i might still be in BOB rather than leaving as i have? tbh you should keep your mindless attempts at insults to yourself.. If it doesn't fit you then I apologize. Unfortunately, I've found that in most cases, it fits the person dispensing misinformation. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
Cotton Tail Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:13:00 - [36] Originally by: Skoot Guys are you out of your minds , if i doubt some words from a north alliance member i get myself as a bob alt pet slave whatever ... I was trying to understand how some of the RZR guys are claiming "either way we win" when they and the rest of the people who try to get 9cg where not able to score a single victory over BOB . I was under the impresion that you have to kill ships to win a war ( ASCN FTW ) . Anyway im out of this nonsense forums , wondering how far this histeria will go Could it possibly be that they win either way because they're having fun actually playing the game and you know, shooting things?
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:15:00 - [37] wait, this game is about shooting things??? Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
Masochistic Cannibal Amarr 3M Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:15:00 - [38] Originally by: Skoot Originally by: QwaarJet Edited by: QwaarJet on 02/03/2007 13:33:02 If BoB comes back down and trys to play ping pong, it means they are here and not elsewhere. If they don't come back down, then the system is secured and we can continue on through Querious with the little to no resistance we've had as late.Either way, we win. Well , im looking at bob kb and the northern entities since the war started . As far as i can tell you , you havent managed to score a single victory versus bob . Are you guys suffering from the ASCN syndrome ? Forum ate my post Short version, D2 attacking in the north >> BoB have to leave LV to fight on 2 fronts >> LV die >> 1000's of extra pilots can knock on BoB's door (Via MC's I would guesse) >> Win Cannibal I eat babies ! [Hauling services available~ Contact ingame]
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:16:00 - [39] Originally by: Skoot Guys are you out of your minds , if i doubt some words from a north alliance member i get myself as a bob alt pet slave whatever ... I was trying to understand how some of the RZR guys are claiming "either way we win" when they and the rest of the people who try to get 9cg where not able to score a single victory over BOB . I was under the impresion that you have to kill ships to win a war ( ASCN FTW ) . Anyway im out of this nonsense forums , wondering how far this histeria will go In the end you have to kill ships indeed. But not all frontlines are always about killing. The attack by the North has succeeded in pulling BoB away from helping LV, contributing to the collapse of LV as a territorial alliance we currently seem to be witnessing. Which could mean that once RAGOON+allies wrap up LV space, they can come rolling west to open up a new front and add more weight in the fight against BoB itself. So regardless from how you rate the North's performance in combat, what I would consider one of their main objectives has been reached already. -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:18:00 - [40] Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 14:16:09 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 14:06:56 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic You're just a fanboi fond of this "insult" arent you.. why do you assume that everyone that doesnt hold your opinions is automatically a "fanboi" of your enemy? when you called me it.. did you actually consider that if i was such a hugh fan of BOB, i might still be in BOB rather than leaving as i have? tbh you should keep your mindless attempts at insults to yourself.. If it doesn't fit you then I apologize. Unfortunately, I've found that in most cases, it fits the person dispensing misinformation. Your a fanboi? Since you have been dispensing misinformation... You still havent mentioned how you consider dropping 6 POS's anything but spamming from what your corp mate reported, you consider 2->3 POS spamming.. so 6 must be... fine, because you did it _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
ACHURA CALDARIAN Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:20:00 - [41] Originally by: Skoot Guys are you out of your minds , if i doubt some words from a north alliance member i get myself as a bob alt pet slave whatever ... I was trying to understand how some of the RZR guys are claiming "either way we win" when they and the rest of the people who try to get 9cg where not able to score a single victory over BOB . I was under the impresion that you have to kill ships to win a war ( ASCN FTW ) . Anyway im out of this nonsense forums , wondering how far this histeria will go well beofre looking to only bobs killboard ls check the other alliances killborads aswell to see a correct situation on DD ing the fleet and then logging of may be seen as a victory if u look only to bobs killboard but if u can look to coalition and versus killboard wholely you can see that there are more then what u are trying to show off both sides are doing good what they have to do and time will show who will do his job well no cheers here because its a little step on future advances time and both sides working on stuffs will show what will be as fredo says its early to yell yeah we win nor for the ones you wont according to BOB's killboard Ottoman empire lost 500 k of soldiers in Gallipoli in world war 1 but can manage to stand the ground against the England France and other allies Vietkongs was too low on stuff but can manage to overcome USS forces in Vietnam Time will show what will be the situation in the future not the loss of ship only till that time we will try to have fun of eve fleet fights and all other stuffs and advicing to all sides having fun of it WE ARE THE GRANDSONS OF A THUNDERMAKER NATION
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:23:00 - [42] Gj taking the station. Nothing is decided yet. This war is far from over. BoB is doing a very good job defending. But they have multiple fronts to fight on, which requires a lot of movement. They are under pressure. All parts win on this war. We are having alot of fun :) Who will be the victor in the end remains to see. Meanwhile, gl to all parts involved! (as long as bob lose)
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:26:00 - [43] Originally by: thoth foc Your a fanboi? Since you have been dispensing misinformation... You still havent mentioned how you consider dropping 6 POS's anything but spamming from what your corp mate reported, you consider 2->3 POS spamming.. so 6 must be... fine, because you did it I took exception to your comment that we got sov by just spamming POSes. We didn't. POSes were sieged and taken down. Other POSes were sieged and saved. The system has 40 frickin moons so of course a lot of POSes need to go up. Trying to downplay the accomplishment by saying "omg you just spammed POSes" is lame especially when it's only half true. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:29:00 - [44] Gj RZR,RAWR,TRI,D2. Leave some for us eh? - http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0612/Jameswsig.jpg WeComeInPeace Video Please keep your signature below the 24000 bytes limit.- Thx Pirlouit
Dekiri Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:30:00 - [45] Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 14:06:56 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic You're just a fanboi fond of this "insult" arent you.. why do you assume that everyone that doesnt hold your opinions is automatically a "fanboi" of your enemy? when you called me it.. did you actually consider that if i was such a hugh fan of BOB, i might still be in BOB rather than leaving as i have? tbh you should keep your mindless attempts at insults to yourself.. No idea what you are babbling about, but you really make no sense. Just look at your "signature". You are obviously still very proud of having been in ATUK or later on in BoB aren't you?=) I don't think the fanboi insult is in this case far fetched tbh. --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:34:00 - [46] Originally by: Zimi Vlasic I took exception to your comment that we got sov by just spamming POSes. We didn't. POSes were sieged and taken down. Other POSes were sieged and saved. The system has 40 frickin moons so of course a lot of POSes need to go up. Trying to downplay the accomplishment by saying "omg you just spammed POSes" is lame especially when it's only half true. So how many of the original 4 where destroyed? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:39:00 - [47] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Zimi Vlasic I took exception to your comment that we got sov by just spamming POSes. We didn't. POSes were sieged and taken down. Other POSes were sieged and saved. The system has 40 frickin moons so of course a lot of POSes need to go up. Trying to downplay the accomplishment by saying "omg you just spammed POSes" is lame especially when it's only half true. So how many of the original 4 where destroyed? Now that I'm not sure of. Seems the "fun" POS stuff all happens when I'm asleep for at work Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
Goktar illiat Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:42:00 - [48] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Zimi Vlasic I took exception to your comment that we got sov by just spamming POSes. We didn't. POSes were sieged and taken down. Other POSes were sieged and saved. The system has 40 frickin moons so of course a lot of POSes need to go up. Trying to downplay the accomplishment by saying "omg you just spammed POSes" is lame especially when it's only half true. So how many of the original 4 where destroyed? 1 Gazillion !
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:47:00 - [49] Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 02/03/2007 14:35:32 Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Zimi Vlasic I took exception to your comment that we got sov by just spamming POSes. We didn't. POSes were sieged and taken down. Other POSes were sieged and saved. The system has 40 frickin moons so of course a lot of POSes need to go up. Trying to downplay the accomplishment by saying "omg you just spammed POSes" is lame especially when it's only half true. So how many of the original 4 where destroyed? Now that I'm not sure of. Seems the "fun" POS stuff all happens when I'm asleep or at work So, BOB had 4 POS's, you/your allies now have 6, you have no idea how many BOB pos were destroyed. And you feel qualified to take exception to the observation that, this looks very like POS spamming.. maybe you should leave the "information" side to someone that has some _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 15:01:00 - [50] Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 02/03/2007 14:57:39 Originally by: thoth foc So, BOB had 4 POS's, you/your allies now have 6, you have no idea how many BOB pos were destroyed. And you feel qualified to take exception to the observation that, this looks very like POS spamming.. maybe you should leave the "information" side to someone that has some AFAIK at least one was popped but I don't know exactly how many? Would 5 POSes being put up not be spamming? At which point do you think it becomes spam? Would we have to kill all POSes and put up one to get sov for it not to be spam? Would you like fries with that? My point that crying "omg spam" when we're talking about so few POSes is lame stands. A ton of work also went into keeping our POSes alive. So your assertion that this is mere "POS Spam" is wrong. I mean if we put up like 21 POSes right away then you have a valid point. Actually this entire argument we're on about is just lame and cluttering up the forum so I guess I'm done. Feel free to get in the last word. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 15:18:00 - [51] Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 02/03/2007 14:57:39 Originally by: thoth foc So, BOB had 4 POS's, you/your allies now have 6, you have no idea how many BOB pos were destroyed. And you feel qualified to take exception to the observation that, this looks very like POS spamming.. maybe you should leave the "information" side to someone that has some AFAIK at least one was popped but I don't know exactly how many? Would 5 POSes being put up not be spamming? At which point do you think it becomes spam? Would we have to kill all POSes and put up one to get sov for it not to be spam? Would you like fries with that? My point that crying "omg spam" when we're talking about so few POSes is lame stands. A ton of work also went into keeping our POSes alive. So your assertion that this is mere "POS Spam" is wrong. I mean if we put up like 21 POSes right away then you have a valid point. Actually this entire argument we're on about is just lame and cluttering up the forum so I guess I'm done. Feel free to get in the last word. tbh, i agree your rattle throwing and name calling is lame and does clutter up the forums.. a simple reply with actual fact would have been the best.. but you preferred name calling.. and "exceptions". Everyone has their own measure of "spamming" i guess.. you can place whatever numbers on it you like.. from your dribbles of info, you've dropped far more than you've killed, and you've used dropping more than your enemy to gain sov.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
De Vito Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 15:22:00 - [52] cmon ping pong rules Eμπιστoσύνη δε xaρiζετaι, kaτakτιέτaι
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.02 15:32:00 - [53] Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 13:05:41 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. So Razor will be doing the POS spamming, and BOB doing the POS seiging? Was the other way around last night, fanboi. Razor are destroying POS's? or did sov magically change long enuff for to shoot the station? Seriously, just stop being such a fanboi and rejoin BoB so we don't have to read your stream of smack. Originally by: Ice Conch In soviet russia, soap drops you!
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.02 15:32:00 - [54] Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 13:05:41 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. So Razor will be doing the POS spamming, and BOB doing the POS seiging? Was the other way around last night, fanboi. Razor are destroying POS's? or did sov magically change long enuff for to shoot the station? Seriously, just stop being such a fanboi and rejoin BoB so we don't have to read your stream of smack. Originally by: Ice Conch In soviet russia, soap drops you!
Mindblank StarLight Inc. Prismatic Refraction	Posted - 2007.03.02 15:40:00 - [55] Congratulations to achieving sov in 9cg!!! -= Currently recruiting Swedish players =-
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 15:55:00 - [56] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 13:05:41 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. So Razor will be doing the POS spamming, and BOB doing the POS seiging? Was the other way around last night, fanboi. Razor are destroying POS's? or did sov magically change long enuff for to shoot the station? Seriously, just stop being such a fanboi and rejoin BoB so we don't have to read your stream of smack. By saying, that asking about how you achieved sov is smack, you are the one infering that there was something, you or others would see as "shameful" in the methods.. so you should consider which of us is actually smacking Razor _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Exortius Amarrus The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.02 15:58:00 - [57] Originally by: Sorja FIX has nothing do to with this conflict, they are cool. Saving this for future laughs. ------------------------ Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400*120 pixels -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
Ewa Quillam Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:09:00 - [58] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 02/03/2007 14:35:32 Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Zimi Vlasic I took exception to your comment that we got sov by just spamming POSes. We didn't. POSes were sieged and taken down. Other POSes were sieged and saved. The system has 40 frickin moons so of course a lot of POSes need to go up. Trying to downplay the accomplishment by saying "omg you just spammed POSes" is lame especially when it's only half true. So how many of the original 4 where destroyed? Now that I'm not sure of. Seems the "fun" POS stuff all happens when I'm asleep or at work So, BOB had 4 POS's, you/your allies now have 6, you have no idea how many BOB pos were destroyed. And you feel qualified to take exception to the observation that, this looks very like POS spamming.. maybe you should leave the "information" side to someone that has some Dude, chill out a bit, no one knows what you want to know or what you want to prove... and everyone except you seems to agree that there is still much to be done.
Ewa Quillam Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:09:00 - [59] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 02/03/2007 14:35:32 Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Zimi Vlasic I took exception to your comment that we got sov by just spamming POSes. We didn't. POSes were sieged and taken down. Other POSes were sieged and saved. The system has 40 frickin moons so of course a lot of POSes need to go up. Trying to downplay the accomplishment by saying "omg you just spammed POSes" is lame especially when it's only half true. So how many of the original 4 where destroyed? Now that I'm not sure of. Seems the "fun" POS stuff all happens when I'm asleep or at work So, BOB had 4 POS's, you/your allies now have 6, you have no idea how many BOB pos were destroyed. And you feel qualified to take exception to the observation that, this looks very like POS spamming.. maybe you should leave the "information" side to someone that has some Dude, chill out a bit, no one knows what you want to know or what you want to prove... and everyone except you seems to agree that there is still much to be done.
Darth Zion Minmatar Deltaflux Industries	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:14:00 - [60] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 13:05:41 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. So Razor will be doing the POS spamming, and BOB doing the POS seiging? Was the other way around last night, fanboi. Razor are destroying POS's? or did sov magically change long enuff for to shoot the station? Seriously, just stop being such a fanboi and rejoin BoB so we don't have to read your stream of smack. By saying, that asking about how you achieved sov is smack, you are the one infering that there was something, you or others would see as "shameful" in the methods.. so you should consider which of us is actually smacking Razor Mmmm, considering who you are and who you were associated with, one could understand why such a question could be interpreted as smack. It's a loaded question and somehow I have a feeling you know that. So please stop trying to play these little games on the forum and do what a previous poster has stated, go back to BoB.
Darth Zion Minmatar Deltaflux Industries	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:14:00 - [61] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 13:05:41 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. So Razor will be doing the POS spamming, and BOB doing the POS seiging? Was the other way around last night, fanboi. Razor are destroying POS's? or did sov magically change long enuff for to shoot the station? Seriously, just stop being such a fanboi and rejoin BoB so we don't have to read your stream of smack. By saying, that asking about how you achieved sov is smack, you are the one infering that there was something, you or others would see as "shameful" in the methods.. so you should consider which of us is actually smacking Razor Mmmm, considering who you are and who you were associated with, one could understand why such a question could be interpreted as smack. It's a loaded question and somehow I have a feeling you know that. So please stop trying to play these little games on the forum and do what a previous poster has stated, go back to BoB.
sci0gon Tech 2 Ammo Holdings Limited	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:15:00 - [62] Originally by: ACHURA CALDARIAN well beofre looking to only bobs killboard ls check the other alliances killborads aswell to see a correct situation on DD ing the fleet and then logging of may be seen as a victory if u look only to bobs killboard but if u can look to coalition and versus killboard wholely you can see that there are more then what u are trying to show off both sides are doing good what they have to do and time will show who will do his job well no cheers here because its a little step on future advances time and both sides working on stuffs will show what will be as fredo says its early to yell yeah we win nor for the ones you wont according to BOB's killboard yea that does seem like a good idea but from the drama on these boards not to long ago didnt BoB kill D2's titan?? from looking at bobs boards i can see it was done on the 16th of feb 07 @ 18:07, where WOTANKN lost his erebus but on the D2 boards it does not show that CCP should have their own killboard site where the kills made on tranq are automatically updated to save on this. it would then allow more time for pew pew and less moaning in these boards. It would also allow for a fair view to be made on the current battle situation that you guys are currently in.
sci0gon Tech 2 Ammo Holdings Limited	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:15:00 - [63] Originally by: ACHURA CALDARIAN well beofre looking to only bobs killboard ls check the other alliances killborads aswell to see a correct situation on DD ing the fleet and then logging of may be seen as a victory if u look only to bobs killboard but if u can look to coalition and versus killboard wholely you can see that there are more then what u are trying to show off both sides are doing good what they have to do and time will show who will do his job well no cheers here because its a little step on future advances time and both sides working on stuffs will show what will be as fredo says its early to yell yeah we win nor for the ones you wont according to BOB's killboard yea that does seem like a good idea but from the drama on these boards not to long ago didnt BoB kill D2's titan?? from looking at bobs boards i can see it was done on the 16th of feb 07 @ 18:07, where WOTANKN lost his erebus but on the D2 boards it does not show that CCP should have their own killboard site where the kills made on tranq are automatically updated to save on this. it would then allow more time for pew pew and less moaning in these boards. It would also allow for a fair view to be made on the current battle situation that you guys are currently in.
Apple Boy Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:20:00 - [64] BoB beating us in querious? the only time BoB has shown any _presence_ here, let alone a fight is when they come en mass in cap ships to take out a POS or to put one up. Very rarely are there any other battles. I'm addicted to eve and come on a lot, don't really see any of them. It's mostly fix, and they've been mostly dying. look at the killboard, last time BoB got a kill on us was the 25th, how can we be loosing if they're not here fighting us?
Apple Boy Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:20:00 - [65] BoB beating us in querious? the only time BoB has shown any _presence_ here, let alone a fight is when they come en mass in cap ships to take out a POS or to put one up. Very rarely are there any other battles. I'm addicted to eve and come on a lot, don't really see any of them. It's mostly fix, and they've been mostly dying. look at the killboard, last time BoB got a kill on us was the 25th, how can we be loosing if they're not here fighting us?
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:35:00 - [66] Originally by: Darth Zion Mmmm, considering who you are and who you were associated with, one could understand why such a question could be interpreted as smack. It's a loaded question and somehow I have a feeling you know that. So please stop trying to play these little games on the forum and do what a previous poster has stated, go back to BoB. Since you dont know me, i rather doubt you have great insight into my associations. The only silly games i see, are various forum users continuing to flame me, off-topic. I asked a simple question based on the evidence i had to hand. If you consider it loaded, well answer it carefully, ignoring the topic and flaming a poster isnt the way to deal with such questions.. not if you want look like it was out of place.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
RaBbLe66 Amarr Amarr Dissidents Club	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:50:00 - [67] Edited by: RaBbLe66 on 02/03/2007 16:49:41 Quote: Which could mean that once RAGOON+allies wrap up LV space, they can come rolling west to open up With the movement of LV to Stain this may come quicker than anyone realises- A friend in IAC informed me that last night a large convoy of freindly Freighters and fighting ships travelled through their space from Curse towards Delve. Today I took a trip up through NOL and beyond and certainly there were a number of Pandemic Legion and Curse Alliance guys (Southern Coalition) already in the area.
RaBbLe66 Amarr Amarr Dissidents Club	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:50:00 - [68] Edited by: RaBbLe66 on 02/03/2007 16:49:41 Quote: Which could mean that once RAGOON+allies wrap up LV space, they can come rolling west to open up With the movement of LV to Stain this may come quicker than anyone realises- A friend in IAC informed me that last night a large convoy of freindly Freighters and fighting ships travelled through their space from Curse towards Delve. Today I took a trip up through NOL and beyond and certainly there were a number of Pandemic Legion and Curse Alliance guys (Southern Coalition) already in the area.
djNME DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 17:05:00 - [69] These forums are funny. This war is bringing us all what we want;fights.What we play eve for;fights.So I understand people wanting to get info and posting questions. Though some of you are just laughable with your posts. The "North" has tons of targets and we love it.I love it; DAB loves it; RZR loves it.It's simple really.See you out there. djNME
Darth Zion Minmatar Deltaflux Industries	Posted - 2007.03.02 17:07:00 - [70] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Darth Zion Mmmm, considering who you are and who you were associated with, one could understand why such a question could be interpreted as smack. It's a loaded question and somehow I have a feeling you know that. So please stop trying to play these little games on the forum and do what a previous poster has stated, go back to BoB. Since you dont know me, i rather doubt you have great insight into my associations. The only silly games i see, are various forum users continuing to flame me, off-topic. I asked a simple question based on the evidence i had to hand. If you consider it loaded, well answer it carefully, ignoring the topic and flaming a poster isnt the way to deal with such questions.. not if you want look like it was out of place.. LOL, 'since you don't know me'.. love that line. Please stop pretending to be innocent here. I love it when people like you try to take this nice 'I'm neutral, just asking a simple question' stance on the forums. Like I said, we all 'know' who you are and who you were with, so stop playing these silly games. Nevertheless, I do like your attempt on taking the high road on this.
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Faaip De Oiad	Posted - 2007.03.02 17:20:00 - [71] Originally by: Skoot I was under the impresion that you have to kill ships to win a war ( ASCN FTW ) . sorry to say this - but ... this is sooooo 2006 (or was it 2005?) if you're fighting a dedicated opposition in a terretorial conflict the only way to win is by killing POSes - ships can easily be replaced (as long the economic structures works), but sovereignity about a station system can't. ___________________ -Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
Darken Two Gallente Hybonashi Industries Kith of Venal	Posted - 2007.03.02 17:31:00 - [72] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Darth Zion Mmmm, considering who you are and who you were associated with, one could understand why such a question could be interpreted as smack. It's a loaded question and somehow I have a feeling you know that. So please stop trying to play these little games on the forum and do what a previous poster has stated, go back to BoB. Since you dont know me, i rather doubt you have great insight into my associations. The only silly games i see, are various forum users continuing to flame me, off-topic. I asked a simple question based on the evidence i had to hand. If you consider it loaded, well answer it carefully, ignoring the topic and flaming a poster isnt the way to deal with such questions.. not if you want look like it was out of place.. Thoth, I don't think it's your question that has people flaming you...it is the way you asked it, using the word "Magically" would imnply something fishy going on in what RZR did and thats prolly whats got people riled up. Perhaps next time you should just ask the question straight Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Habraka Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.02 17:33:00 - [73] Originally by: Skoot Well , im looking at bob kb and the northern entities since the war started . As far as i can tell you , you havent managed to score a single victory versus bob . Are you guys suffering from the ASCN syndrome ? Only "victories" BoB had so far in Querious are when they use the Doomsday Device. In fact, last time they "won" an engagement in Querious they had to use two Titans with Doomsday. The Coalition controls upper Querious, only now and then there's a 5 man FIX gatecamp in 3-F. Regarding POS 'spammage', the Coalition has been busy and still is with destroying Allied Starbases in Querious, not just in 9CG or ED-. BoB put up a large tower in 9CG last night, we immediately got a fleet together, even though our numbers were very low, and we started pounding the POS with roughly 10-15 bs's. Now, if you know anything about POS, then you'll know that hitting a large tower with only 10 bs's takes ages, especially when you have a hostile mothership in said POS. Anyone saying the Coalition isn't progressing in Querious obviously isn't near the region, come down and see for yourself who's winning the war.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 17:45:00 - [74] Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Darth Zion Mmmm, considering who you are and who you were associated with, one could understand why such a question could be interpreted as smack. It's a loaded question and somehow I have a feeling you know that. So please stop trying to play these little games on the forum and do what a previous poster has stated, go back to BoB. Since you dont know me, i rather doubt you have great insight into my associations. The only silly games i see, are various forum users continuing to flame me, off-topic. I asked a simple question based on the evidence i had to hand. If you consider it loaded, well answer it carefully, ignoring the topic and flaming a poster isnt the way to deal with such questions.. not if you want look like it was out of place.. Thoth, I don't think it's your question that has people flaming you...it is the way you asked it, using the word "Magically" would imnply something fishy going on in what RZR did and thats prolly whats got people riled up. Perhaps next time you should just ask the question straight Possibly, if it was, it was a misunderstanding.. that was just to highlight the adamance from zimi that they didnt spam.. when sofar dispite the repeated flaming, it looks very much like they did.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.03.02 17:50:00 - [75] Originally by: Habraka Originally by: Skoot Well , im looking at bob kb and the northern entities since the war started . As far as i can tell you , you havent managed to score a single victory versus bob . Are you guys suffering from the ASCN syndrome ? Only "victories" BoB had so far in Querious are when they use the Doomsday Device. In fact, last time they "won" an engagement in Querious they had to use two Titans with Doomsday. The Coalition controls upper Querious, only now and then there's a 5 man FIX gatecamp in 3-F. Regarding POS 'spammage', the Coalition has been busy and still is with destroying Allied Starbases in Querious, not just in 9CG or ED-. BoB put up a large tower in 9CG last night, we immediately got a fleet together, even though our numbers were very low, and we started pounding the POS with roughly 10-15 bs's. Now, if you know anything about POS, then you'll know that hitting a large tower with only 10 bs's takes ages, especially when you have a hostile mothership in said POS. Anyone saying the Coalition isn't progressing in Querious obviously isn't near the region, come down and see for yourself who's winning the war. I unloaded 4.5k of small antimatter into that pos, did it finally go into reinforced?
bulabuba Gallente Klima Galactic	Posted - 2007.03.02 17:51:00 - [76] First of all, congrats to Razor for not only taking sov, but managing not to succumb to the temptation to be a-holes about it in public. You've done more than BoB could do if you do nothing but that. Secondly, most of the posters here are either clueless, or miss the point entirely. The northerners don't have to win here. They just have to keep BoB and their vassels spread out for a while. They know it, and BoB knows it. It would make no sense at all for them expend wads of isk and resources on a full scale assult at this time. Real Soon Now(tm) BoB is going to be facing the same thing that LV has been facing, and they aren't going to fare much better. Right now, the undeniable truth is that big numbers > big guns in Eve. I'm sure it won't always be that way, but it is right now. When the 1000 man fleets come knocking, neither big skill nor big skill points nor big ships will save BoB. Short of lag and node crashes disappearing miraculously and just in time, BoB's days are numbered. You can say all you want to about it being lame or unfair or what-have-you, but the simple truth is that you have to play the game as you find it, or go home. BoB always has. That's the way they got big, and that's the way they'll be taken down. This chapter will end, and another will begin. So it goes. ----------------------------------------------- Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No. -DB Preacher[BoB]
fugazii Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.03.02 18:26:00 - [77] Originally by: Skoot Guys are you out of your minds , if i doubt some words from a north alliance member i get myself as a bob alt pet slave whatever ... I was trying to understand how some of the RZR guys are claiming "either way we win" when they and the rest of the people who try to get 9cg where not able to score a single victory over BOB . I was under the impresion that you have to kill ships to win a war ( ASCN FTW ) . Anyway im out of this nonsense forums , wondering how far this histeria will go bob can win every engagement but if they cant hold the stations, none of thier wins mean anything. you need to realize war is no longer about who is the better pvp'r but who has the most isk and will to pos spam.
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.02 18:36:00 - [78] Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 14:16:09 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 14:06:56 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic You're just a fanboi fond of this "insult" arent you.. why do you assume that everyone that doesnt hold your opinions is automatically a "fanboi" of your enemy? when you called me it.. did you actually consider that if i was such a hugh fan of BOB, i might still be in BOB rather than leaving as i have? tbh you should keep your mindless attempts at insults to yourself.. If it doesn't fit you then I apologize. Unfortunately, I've found that in most cases, it fits the person dispensing misinformation. Your a fanboi? Since you have been dispensing misinformation... You still havent mentioned how you consider dropping 6 POS's anything but spamming from what your corp mate reported, you consider 2->3 POS spamming.. so 6 must be... fine, because you did it If thats pos spamming, then my name is harriet.
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.02 18:45:00 - [79] ASCN's mutliple-front strategy didn't succeed because they were defending. Going somewhere else to fight while BoB captures your home systems isn't making progress. The Northern Coalition has the advantage of being the aggressors, which means that from the start of this, ANY forward progess is still a loss for BoB and its allies. So I ask you, how exactly is BoB "winning"? They are losing control of their systems, and their space is general is overrun with invaders like never before, and time is their enemy. Tick tock.
Siva Calentis The Pikey Rebellion	Posted - 2007.03.02 18:48:00 - [80] I remember not too long ago when a titan was destroyed that the words "All is fair in war". Well isn't it ironic, now a bob alt is moaning because the north are not playing fair (thats very highly debatable by the way). It swings back and fourth like a pendulum. Welcome to war BoB! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The legend formally known as Naldo! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Vladimir Tinakin Caldari Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.03.02 18:52:00 - [81] Edited by: Vladimir Tinakin on 02/03/2007 18:50:05 Originally by: Skoot Guys are you out of your minds , if i doubt some words from a north alliance member i get myself as a bob alt pet slave whatever ... I was trying to understand how some of the RZR guys are claiming "either way we win" when they and the rest of the people who try to get 9cg where not able to score a single victory over BOB . I was under the impresion that you have to kill ships to win a war ( ASCN FTW ) . Anyway im out of this nonsense forums , wondering how far this histeria will go If war was strickly about who kills more, then the Goons shouldn't be able to undock from kisogo without spontaneously combusting Its not number of kills, or even number of battles won. Its controlling where your enemy fights, controlling where he can divert his resources, and ultimately sapping his strength. Hit a block of ice with a rubber mallet, and you'd do some damage but it might not shatter. Chisel it in a few areas, work in a few fissures, and then hit it...and you've got daiquiri mix! Look at the strategic board, not the tactical. BoB's income is being disrupted--I imagine they have uber reserves and still some decent income from T2 sales, but I would also imagine the books are running into the red as far as cash flow goes (more out than in). Their pilots have to region jump to cover enough ground--admittedly, easier to do with cap jump bridges. The initiative and the momentum is with the coalition(s) at the moment, and unless BoB does a Battle-of-the-Bulge maneuver this seems unlikely to change. Official disclaimer: Archaean Cooperative is officially neutral in this brujaja, aside from approving of the war; we sell ships and war is good for business edit: they censored a synonym for fissure. ----------------------------------------------- Adm Vladimir Tinakin CFO Hadean Drive Yards
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:17:00 - [82] Originally by: Graalum Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 14:16:09 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 14:06:56 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic You're just a fanboi fond of this "insult" arent you.. why do you assume that everyone that doesnt hold your opinions is automatically a "fanboi" of your enemy? when you called me it.. did you actually consider that if i was such a hugh fan of BOB, i might still be in BOB rather than leaving as i have? tbh you should keep your mindless attempts at insults to yourself.. If it doesn't fit you then I apologize. Unfortunately, I've found that in most cases, it fits the person dispensing misinformation. Your a fanboi? Since you have been dispensing misinformation... You still havent mentioned how you consider dropping 6 POS's anything but spamming from what your corp mate reported, you consider 2->3 POS spamming.. so 6 must be... fine, because you did it If thats pos spamming, then my name is harriet. Does just Zimi get to call you that, or can we use his/her judgement for this 1 time? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:17:00 - [83] Originally by: Graalum Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 14:16:09 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 14:06:56 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic You're just a fanboi fond of this "insult" arent you.. why do you assume that everyone that doesnt hold your opinions is automatically a "fanboi" of your enemy? when you called me it.. did you actually consider that if i was such a hugh fan of BOB, i might still be in BOB rather than leaving as i have? tbh you should keep your mindless attempts at insults to yourself.. If it doesn't fit you then I apologize. Unfortunately, I've found that in most cases, it fits the person dispensing misinformation. Your a fanboi? Since you have been dispensing misinformation... You still havent mentioned how you consider dropping 6 POS's anything but spamming from what your corp mate reported, you consider 2->3 POS spamming.. so 6 must be... fine, because you did it If thats pos spamming, then my name is harriet. Does just Zimi get to call you that, or can we use his/her judgement for this 1 time? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:55:00 - [84] Originally by: thoth foc So how many of the original 4 where destroyed? There were originally 2 BoB POS in the system. After one of them was destroyed, the number of BoB POS quickly increased to 4 (and now 5). But in any case, it is a system with 40+ moons. Thinking that a conflict about it would not involve deploying a decent number of POS on both sides is an illusion.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:56:00 - [85] Originally by: bulabuba First of all, congrats to Razor for not only taking sov, but managing not to succumb to the temptation to be a-holes about it in public. You've done more than BoB could do if you do nothing but that. Secondly, most of the posters here are either clueless, or miss the point entirely. The northerners don't have to win here. They just have to keep BoB and their vassels spread out for a while. They know it, and BoB knows it. It would make no sense at all for them expend wads of isk and resources on a full scale assult at this time. Real Soon Now(tm) BoB is going to be facing the same thing that LV has been facing, and they aren't going to fare much better. Right now, the undeniable truth is that big numbers > big guns in Eve. I'm sure it won't always be that way, but it is right now. When the 1000 man fleets come knocking, neither big skill nor big skill points nor big ships will save BoB. Short of lag and node crashes disappearing miraculously and just in time, BoB's days are numbered. You can say all you want to about it being lame or unfair or what-have-you, but the simple truth is that you have to play the game as you find it, or go home. BoB always has. That's the way they got big, and that's the way they'll be taken down. This chapter will end, and another will begin. So it goes. I like this post.... I believe this is more or less what is going to happen. I've said it before and I've said it again if the coalition keep it together, its game over for BoB and anybody that allies with them. Atm it does look like steady progress is being made with 9cg being taken. Congratz to the coalition for taking 9cg, its strategic importance is immeasurable in the south. Furthermore if the coalition can manage to remain magnanimous in victory, not only will it indicate great military accomplishments but also strong moral fibre.... and that is going to be as important in this war as Capital Ships and POS.
D1ck Jones Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.02 20:02:00 - [86] Originally by: Nez Perces Furthermore if the coalition can manage to remain magnanimous in victory too bad that ship has long since sailed...
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.03.02 20:06:00 - [87] Originally by: D1ck Jones Originally by: Nez Perces Furthermore if the coalition can manage to remain magnanimous in victory too bad that ship has long since sailed... ... not really... this is the first tangible victory on BoB soil (assuming 9cg is kept out of BoB hands). In this thread the coalition has been fairly restrained in their postings. I'd say the tone in this thread is about right.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.02 20:08:00 - [88] Originally by: Shirei Originally by: thoth foc So how many of the original 4 where destroyed? There were originally 2 BoB POS in the system. After one of them was destroyed, the number of BoB POS quickly increased to 4 (and now 5). But in any case, it is a system with 40+ moons. Thinking that a conflict about it would not involve deploying a decent number of POS on both sides is an illusion. thank you, good post _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Luthien Firefoot Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.02 20:18:00 - [89] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Shirei Originally by: thoth foc So how many of the original 4 where destroyed? There were originally 2 BoB POS in the system. After one of them was destroyed, the number of BoB POS quickly increased to 4 (and now 5). But in any case, it is a system with 40+ moons. Thinking that a conflict about it would not involve deploying a decent number of POS on both sides is an illusion. thank you, good post I'd like to insult you but in the interest of politics, I'd like you to insult me first. We can keep it mild at first and build up or just go straight in at the atuk end, up to you. /me goes to make sum tea.
Dragerest Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:05:00 - [90] good job guys. keep it up.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:12:00 - [91] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 02/03/2007 21:10:03 Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/03/2007 20:07:47 Originally by: bulabuba First of all, congrats to Razor for not only taking sov, but managing not to succumb to the temptation to be a-holes about it in public. You've done more than BoB could do if you do nothing but that. Secondly, most of the posters here are either clueless, or miss the point entirely. The northerners don't have to win here. They just have to keep BoB and their vassels spread out for a while. They know it, and BoB knows it. It would make no sense at all for them expend wads of isk and resources on a full scale assult at this time. Real Soon Now(tm) BoB is going to be facing the same thing that LV has been facing, and they aren't going to fare much better. Right now, the undeniable truth is that big numbers > big guns in Eve. I'm sure it won't always be that way, but it is right now. When the 1000 man fleets come knocking, neither big skill nor big skill points nor big ships will save BoB. Short of lag and node crashes disappearing miraculously and just in time, BoB's days are numbered. You can say all you want to about it being lame or unfair or what-have-you, but the simple truth is that you have to play the game as you find it, or go home. BoB always has. That's the way they got big, and that's the way they'll be taken down. This chapter will end, and another will begin. So it goes. I like this post.... I believe this is more or less what is going to happen. I've said it before and I'll say it again if the coalition keep it together, its game over for BoB and anybody that allies with them. Atm it does look like steady progress is being made with 9cg being taken. Congratz to the coalition for taking 9cg, its strategic importance is immeasurable in the south. Furthermore if the coalition can manage to remain magnanimous in victory, not only will it indicate great military accomplishments but also strong moral fibre.... and that is going to be as important in this war as Capital Ships and POS. [edit:typo] I think you guys would be right if it wasnt for the fact that BoB has shown itself to be so competent at using its cap ship advantage. Seems to me that the number advantage is going to be going up against a pretty massive cap ship advantage between BoB and MC... no so much in numbers of cap ships but in their ability at using them strategically. Seems to me that the number of titans BoB is deploying might very well be enough to stop even those thousand ship fleets cold given the impressive planning BoB has shown over the last months in their use. Though, then again, they might not. Will be interesting to find out really. Though I personally think its hardly going to be one sided in the coalitions favor even if the coalition holds together. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
D1ck Jones Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:20:00 - [92] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: D1ck Jones Originally by: Nez Perces Furthermore if the coalition can manage to remain magnanimous in victory too bad that ship has long since sailed... ... not really... this is the first tangible victory on BoB soil (assuming 9cg is kept out of BoB hands). In this thread the coalition has been fairly restrained in their postings. I'd say the tone in this thread is about right. Oh, ok, I see now. You can randomly add/remove who is part of the coalition at will to suit your posts. So, BE/goons/CA and all their smalktalk about rapetrain, ect dont count. /noted
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:42:00 - [93] Originally by: D1ck Jones Oh, ok, I see now. You can randomly add/remove who is part of the coalition at will to suit your posts. So, BE/goons/CA and all their smalktalk about rapetrain, ect dont count. /noted Lets start again... sigh Originally by: D1ck Jones Originally by: Nez Perces Furthermore if the coalition can manage to remain magnanimous in victory too bad that ship has long since sailed... ... perhaps I should have been more specific. The term "Coalition" is being coined to describe the myriad of alliances rallying together to take on BoB. And we can further break it down to the "Northern Coaliton" and the "Southern Coalition". With me so far? As things stand, only the "Northern Coalition" has thrown its full weight directly onto BoB territories. The "Southern Coalition" is still wrapping up the LV territories as far as I am aware. Now.... what I said was in reference to the "Coalition" as in the sum of the Southern and Northern portions. And so far the only tangible victory so far against BoB has been reported in this thread and with some degree of restraint. Goons and CA have been at it with LV for some time now.. so that section of the conflict is really only a precursor for the real show and is not what I was referring to. Hence... the "Coalition" still has the opportunity to be magnanimous if they achieve victories against BoB itself. Whether or not the "Coalition" has shown restraint in the build up to this conflict or not, is another matter and one which I did not comment on. Capiche?
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.03.02 22:13:00 - [94] I mostly just find myself wondering if in the end, anything will count other than who has the most Titans. Oh sure, you still need other capitals and support, but every one of these is a gamebreaker. Titanwise, the Coalition forces are hugely in the hole when it comes to a count on how many of these exist. They've currently shown what, two? Its going to take a long war indeed for those numbers to even out, and then only if pressure can be maintained on the BoB & friend building facilities.
USN CVN72 Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.02 22:41:00 - [95] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/03/2007 20:07:47 Originally by: bulabuba First of all, congrats to Razor for not only taking sov, but managing not to succumb to the temptation to be a-holes about it in public. You've done more than BoB could do if you do nothing but that. Secondly, most of the posters here are either clueless, or miss the point entirely. The northerners don't have to win here. They just have to keep BoB and their vassels spread out for a while. They know it, and BoB knows it. It would make no sense at all for them expend wads of isk and resources on a full scale assult at this time. Real Soon Now(tm) BoB is going to be facing the same thing that LV has been facing, and they aren't going to fare much better. Right now, the undeniable truth is that big numbers > big guns in Eve. I'm sure it won't always be that way, but it is right now. When the 1000 man fleets come knocking, neither big skill nor big skill points nor big ships will save BoB. Short of lag and node crashes disappearing miraculously and just in time, BoB's days are numbered. You can say all you want to about it being lame or unfair or what-have-you, but the simple truth is that you have to play the game as you find it, or go home. BoB always has. That's the way they got big, and that's the way they'll be taken down. This chapter will end, and another will begin. So it goes. I like this post.... I believe this is more or less what is going to happen. I've said it before and I'll say it again if the coalition keep it together, its game over for BoB and anybody that allies with them. Atm it does look like steady progress is being made with 9cg being taken. Congratz to the coalition for taking 9cg, its strategic importance is immeasurable in the south. Furthermore if the coalition can manage to remain magnanimous in victory, not only will it indicate great military accomplishments but also strong moral fibre.... and that is going to be as important in this war as Capital Ships and POS. [edit:typo] Nez Perces, did you know that this remark you posted is so true and that your my new best friend... YOU FOUND MY WET SPOT!!! Damn who would have thought... Who ever controls 9cg i would like to offer 20million Lira for the station so i can get out all my personal items held hostage in that station for 3yrs hehe.
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.02 23:34:00 - [96] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Darth Zion Mmmm, considering who you are and who you were associated with, one could understand why such a question could be interpreted as smack. It's a loaded question and somehow I have a feeling you know that. So please stop trying to play these little games on the forum and do what a previous poster has stated, go back to BoB. Since you dont know me, i rather doubt you have great insight into my associations. The only silly games i see, are various forum users continuing to flame me, off-topic. I asked a simple question based on the evidence i had to hand. If you consider it loaded, well answer it carefully, ignoring the topic and flaming a poster isnt the way to deal with such questions.. not if you want look like it was out of place.. Thoth, I don't think it's your question that has people flaming you...it is the way you asked it, using the word "Magically" would imnply something fishy going on in what RZR did and thats prolly whats got people riled up. Perhaps next time you should just ask the question straight Possibly, if it was, it was a misunderstanding.. that was just to highlight the adamance from zimi that they didnt spam.. when sofar dispite the repeated flaming, it looks very much like they did.. As soon as CCP decides that having more POS in a system than your enemy is no long required for sovreignity, then I'm sure everyone will stop "spamming" POS...your friends in BoB included. I mean, what exactly would be call what the BNC.E guy was doing last night in 9CG after sovreignity was lost to Razor? heheh... Since there is something like 40+ moons in 9CG and the Coalition has, over the course of three weeks put up a small number of POS, I don't personally think its activities qualify as wanton POS spamming. Lets just assume everyone involved (on both sides) is going to do what they can to meet their objectives in this conflict and leave it at that.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.03 00:11:00 - [97] Originally by: Orree Edited by: Orree on 02/03/2007 23:35:30 Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Darth Zion Mmmm, considering who you are and who you were associated with, one could understand why such a question could be interpreted as smack. It's a loaded question and somehow I have a feeling you know that. So please stop trying to play these little games on the forum and do what a previous poster has stated, go back to BoB. Since you dont know me, i rather doubt you have great insight into my associations. The only silly games i see, are various forum users continuing to flame me, off-topic. I asked a simple question based on the evidence i had to hand. If you consider it loaded, well answer it carefully, ignoring the topic and flaming a poster isnt the way to deal with such questions.. not if you want look like it was out of place.. Thoth, I don't think it's your question that has people flaming you...it is the way you asked it, using the word "Magically" would imnply something fishy going on in what RZR did and thats prolly whats got people riled up. Perhaps next time you should just ask the question straight Possibly, if it was, it was a misunderstanding.. that was just to highlight the adamance from zimi that they didnt spam.. when sofar dispite the repeated flaming, it looks very much like they did.. As soon as CCP decides that having more POS in a system than your enemy is no long required for sovreignity, then I'm sure everyone will stop "spamming" POS...your friends in BoB included. I mean, what exactly would we call what the BNC.E guy was doing last night in 9CG after sovreignity was lost to Razor? heheh... Since there is something like 40+ moons in 9CG and the Coalition has, over the course of three weeks put up a small number of POS, I don't personally think its activities qualify as wanton POS spamming. Lets just assume everyone involved (on both sides) is going to do what they can to meet their objectives in this conflict and leave it at that. It is an aspect of the game i certainly wont miss, I dont believe it is well implemented. And unfortunately, your post is prolly very accurate. From my past experience, it is not an aspect of the game anyone enjoys, or aims for when they have the PVP ability to avoid it. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Meddly Nocturnal Soldiers	Posted - 2007.03.03 00:46:00 - [98] Edited by: Meddly on 03/03/2007 00:43:28 Originally by: Habraka Originally by: Skoot Well , im looking at bob kb and the northern entities since the war started . As far as i can tell you , you havent managed to score a single victory versus bob . Are you guys suffering from the ASCN syndrome ? Only "victories" BoB had so far in Querious are when they use the Doomsday Device. In fact, last time they "won" an engagement in Querious they had to use two Titans with Doomsday. The Coalition controls upper Querious, only now and then there's a 5 man FIX gatecamp in 3-F. Regarding POS 'spammage', the Coalition has been busy and still is with destroying Allied Starbases in Querious, not just in 9CG or ED-. BoB put up a large tower in 9CG last night, we immediately got a fleet together, even though our numbers were very low, and we started pounding the POS with roughly 10-15 bs's. Now, if you know anything about POS, then you'll know that hitting a large tower with only 10 bs's takes ages, especially when you have a hostile mothership in said POS. Anyone saying the Coalition isn't progressing in Querious obviously isn't near the region, come down and see for yourself who's winning the war. Yes your control of running back to Empire is impressive when we showed up today, the closest you guys came to anything of "winning" or "controling" Querious was with a 120man fleet to P-F (6 jumps away) to stop the sieging of ALL your POS's and the destruction of a few today including the one that had over 20 hardeners on it. Then you ran back to Empire when we sent half the forces to deal with you guys. POS warfare win's nothing, stop hiding in empire and only fighting at your POS's then when you do you can consider using the terms of "Winning" or "Control". GG
Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.03 01:01:00 - [99] Alt flaming 4tw.
Drunken Cajun F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.03 02:13:00 - [100] And quit picking on Vlasic. That's my job laissez les bon temps rouler
arjun Die Apokalyptischen Reiter Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.03 02:19:00 - [101] was that a fix guy hiding behind bob or a bob guy hiding behind 2 titans?
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 02:34:00 - [102] Ok for the record.... first off no-one from razor has been popping their chest out about gaining sov in 9cg. In fact it has been pointed out that we EXPECT it to be a game of ping pong. To that end I'll add what happened tonight. BoB/MC/Fix turned up with a massive cap fleet of approximately 19 dreads, 9 carriers a couple of MS and 2 titans. They then jumped in a large ish sized BS fleet. Before they arrived there was 8 blues (coalition) in local, 1 hour later 268 in local 23 blue (coalition). Hey... we chose not to engage although my crow was itching to have a go at shrikes big ship! Hostile fleet went out and camped 3-f choke point with around 150 ish combo BS/support. That's the start and end of tonight's lil addition to the story unfolding. Now ffs chill out and let's have some fun.... this could and should go on for months. Bob have had some victories and so have we. In fact a little bit of respect to them for not doing the chest thumping routine either. KB numbers mean squat, let's just wait till the dust has cleared at the end of this epic and see who still holds the field. ---------------------------------------------- We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by
Meddly Nocturnal Soldiers	Posted - 2007.03.03 02:58:00 - [103] Originally by: arjun was that a fix guy hiding behind bob or a bob guy hiding behind 2 titans? Or a D2 guy hiding behind station walls, that is the question!
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.03 03:18:00 - [104] Both sides are obviously nubs. The RA we know and love would have put 38 Large POSs up in no time (given tht 2 moons were taken by BoB). Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.03 03:22:00 - [105] How exactly is Nocturnal Soldiers involved in this war again? Oh, that's right, they aren't.
Drunken Cajun F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.03 03:56:00 - [106] I think they provide alts for FiX. Which is funny if it is a FIX person trying to chestbeat about chasing anyone off. When they've been running off for the past couple of weeks at least. laissez les bon temps rouler
Xiaodown Dark-Rising	Posted - 2007.03.03 04:13:00 - [107] Edited by: Xiaodown on 03/03/2007 04:10:17 Originally by: NATMav So I ask you, how exactly is BoB "winning"? They are losing control of their systems, and their space is general is overrun with invaders like never before, and time is their enemy. I'm not saying that the BoB side will come out on top in this war, but this simply isn't true. As a resident of BoB space, I can tell you first hand, we regularly form up gangs and go roaming from delve all the way over to Teneferis, and I'm not kidding when I say it's often hard to find any hostiles to kill. Now, you can say whatever you want about the odds, or the outlook, or the current pos status, etc. But on this specific quote, you're incorrect. Querious has been the hotspot lately, with all the northern folks fighting FIX for space, but other than that and the occasional gang of AAA, it's mostly small fleets of nanophoon/domi/curse (we see 2-3 of these a day) and solo PVPers. It's far from "overrun". ~Xiao
Cassandra Bloom Diamonds inc.	Posted - 2007.03.03 04:34:00 - [108] Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 02/03/2007 13:05:41 Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Apple Boy razor currently has the station in it's control. POS spam warfare or POS sieging is possibly going to start for station ping pong. Only time will tell what BoB plans on doing. So Razor will be doing the POS spamming, and BOB doing the POS seiging? Was the other way around last night, fanboi. Razor are destroying POS's? or did sov magically change long enuff for to shoot the station? Do you belive in magic?
Meddly Nocturnal Soldiers	Posted - 2007.03.03 04:46:00 - [109] Edited by: Meddly on 03/03/2007 04:44:35 Originally by: Drunken Cajun I think they provide alts for FiX. Which is funny if it is a FIX person trying to chestbeat about chasing anyone off. When they've been running off for the past couple of weeks at least. Sorry not FIX, and seeing how you guys need what 5-10 alliances to take on FIX and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Also FIX at least engages at hostile POS's.
Camar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.03.03 05:08:00 - [110] First off, I'm a BoB fanboi (yeah, I like Sir Molle cause he is swedish, or at least I heard he was ) But I still think it's gonna be very damn hard fighting a multiple front war, so it pretty much boils down to how long FIX and LV holds out. Then again, I'm drunk and have nothing to do with this war, nor do I wish I had, but I still wish everyone involved a good war with lots of good fights! Keep the smack low and bring us good reports that those of us out of this war loves to read! Oh yes, kick those slavers in the <censur> too and all other matari propaganda you can think off
Maltere Gallente Inversion Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 05:08:00 - [111] Originally by: Meddly Sorry not FIX, and seeing how you guys need what 5-10 alliances to take on FIX and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Also FIX at least engages at hostile POS's. after reading that i can tell you dont really know what your talking about
Meddly Nocturnal Soldiers	Posted - 2007.03.03 05:22:00 - [112] Edited by: Meddly on 03/03/2007 05:19:44 Originally by: Maltere Originally by: Meddly Sorry not FIX, and seeing how you guys need what 5-10 alliances to take on FIX and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Also FIX at least engages at hostile POS's. after reading that i can tell you dont really know what your talking about IRON/Razor/MM/Some other peeps aren't multiple alliances? Only BoB Cap Fleet and/or Titans has been there to help FIX. You guys have killed 1 maybe 2 POS's . . . You guys have lost 9 dreads 6 to BoB and 3 to MC. You guys have lost a few Carriers but I think FIX has too so I don't count them. You guys have lost quite a few POS's now. Been 3-4 weeks now since war has began. ALL your POS's are in reinforced right now. Correct me where I'm wrong. GG, last post anyways, this is like teaching a fish to talk. /me invests in tin foil and the northern make a wish foundation.
Josh Causto Gallente Fatalix Inc. Schism.	Posted - 2007.03.03 05:23:00 - [113] Originally by: Meddly ...and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Appearantly you have never been in POS warfare before....
Meddly Nocturnal Soldiers	Posted - 2007.03.03 05:24:00 - [114] Edited by: Meddly on 03/03/2007 05:21:03 Originally by: Josh Causto Originally by: Meddly ...and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Appearantly you have never been in POS warfare before.... Thought it was 5 DT's for sov, not 4 weeks . . .
Weatherman Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.03 05:42:00 - [115] Originally by: Josh Causto Originally by: Meddly ...and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Appearantly you have never been in POS warfare before.... lol, there were only like, 2 bob pos and one mc pos in 9cg to begin with. It shouldn't have been that hard to get more pos up than that in a 40 moon system, that is, if the coalition is as in control of Q as all your forum warriors have been reporting. Also, you guys can say whatever you want about FIX. At the end of the day, you felt the need to bring 5+ alliances to Q and I think that speaks louder than forum posts. I wonder how many alliances in your coalition of northern territories would do as well under those odds.
Bella Noma Amarr Mapquest Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.03 05:47:00 - [116] i heard there were banana's in querious but i also heard about monkeys guarding the bananas. i think i best be careful and not get bitten by a green monkey or i can end up with one of those viruses responsible for flaming people on game forums about POS warfare
ishkabibble Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.03 05:52:00 - [117] the "smack" is strong in this post your jedi's POS's go up, POS's go down RZR atm have 9cg, but can they hold it other than that, every other post on this tread is pointless lets have some fun and settle this in 9cg, cause at the end of the day....... mine is bigger than all of yours "I have no clue what weapons we will fight the third world war with, but the fourth world war will be fought with sticks and rocks" - Albert Einstein
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.03.03 06:06:00 - [118] Edited by: Cadiz on 03/03/2007 06:05:25 Originally by: Weatherman Also, you guys can say whatever you want about FIX. At the end of the day, you felt the need to bring 5+ alliances to Q and I think that speaks louder than forum posts. I wonder how many alliances in your coalition of northern territories would do as well under those odds. The funny part is that these are almost exactly the same things you guys were saying during the CODA war around a year ago, heh. That aside, if it wasn't for BoB propping you guys up, I'm pretty sure just about any one of the alliances currently clubbing away at you would suffice. Go MM & Friends! \o/ ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Puncher hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.03 06:12:00 - [119] Beachhead is a military term used to describe the line created when a unit (by sea) reaches a beach, and begins to defend that area of beach, while other reinforcements (hopefully) help out, until a unit large enough to begin advancing has arrived. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beachhead To all of the BoB Alt smacktalkers, keep looking to the East in fear of the nightmare coming down the pipe...
Habraka Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:38:00 - [120] Originally by: Meddly Edited by: Meddly on 03/03/2007 05:19:44 Originally by: Maltere Originally by: Meddly Sorry not FIX, and seeing how you guys need what 5-10 alliances to take on FIX and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Also FIX at least engages at hostile POS's. after reading that i can tell you dont really know what your talking about IRON/Razor/MM/Some other peeps aren't multiple alliances? Only BoB Cap Fleet and/or Titans has been there to help FIX. You guys have killed 1 maybe 2 POS's . . . You guys have lost 9 dreads 6 to BoB and 3 to MC. You guys have lost a few Carriers but I think FIX has too so I don't count them. You guys have lost quite a few POS's now. Been 3-4 weeks now since war has began. ALL your POS's are in reinforced right now. Correct me where I'm wrong. GG, last post anyways, this is like teaching a fish to talk. /me invests in tin foil and the northern make a wish foundation. Yes, I admit, we lost terribly to FIX/BoB/MC. We are handing over all our stations to whoever wants it and we'll go mine Scordite in Amarr. We lost cause nobody expected BoB to survive 4 weeks .
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:05:00 - [121] Originally by: Meddly FIX/Fallen Souls/BoB/MC Some other peeps aren't multiple alliances? Only BoB & MC Cap Fleet and/or Titans has been there to help FIX undock. You guys have pulled BoB away from helping LV. . . You guys have lost 9 dreads 6 to BoB and 3 to MC. You guys have lost a few Carriers but I think FIX and BoB has too so I don't count them. You guys have lost quite a few POS's now. Been 3-4 weeks now since war has began, and BoB is still on its heels. SOME OF your POS's are in reinforced right now. Fixed
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:10:00 - [122] Originally by: Xiaodown Edited by: Xiaodown on 03/03/2007 04:10:17 Originally by: NATMav So I ask you, how exactly is BoB "winning"? They are losing control of their systems, and their space is general is overrun with invaders like never before, and time is their enemy. I'm not saying that the BoB side will come out on top in this war, but this simply isn't true. As a resident of BoB space, I can tell you first hand, we regularly form up gangs and go roaming from delve all the way over to Teneferis, and I'm not kidding when I say it's often hard to find any hostiles to kill. Now, you can say whatever you want about the odds, or the outlook, or the current pos status, etc. But on this specific quote, you're incorrect. Querious has been the hotspot lately, with all the northern folks fighting FIX for space, but other than that and the occasional gang of AAA, it's mostly small fleets of nanophoon/domi/curse (we see 2-3 of these a day) and solo PVPers. It's far from "overrun". ~Xiao Uhh yeah, we're in Querious and D2 & gang are in Fountain. Why are you looking for us in Teneferis?
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:28:00 - [123] Originally by: NATMav Originally by: Xiaodown Edited by: Xiaodown on 03/03/2007 04:10:17 Originally by: NATMav So I ask you, how exactly is BoB "winning"? They are losing control of their systems, and their space is general is overrun with invaders like never before, and time is their enemy. I'm not saying that the BoB side will come out on top in this war, but this simply isn't true. As a resident of BoB space, I can tell you first hand, we regularly form up gangs and go roaming from delve all the way over to Teneferis, and I'm not kidding when I say it's often hard to find any hostiles to kill. Now, you can say whatever you want about the odds, or the outlook, or the current pos status, etc. But on this specific quote, you're incorrect. Querious has been the hotspot lately, with all the northern folks fighting FIX for space, but other than that and the occasional gang of AAA, it's mostly small fleets of nanophoon/domi/curse (we see 2-3 of these a day) and solo PVPers. It's far from "overrun". ~Xiao Uhh yeah, we're in Querious and D2 & gang are in Fountain. Why are you looking for us in Teneferis? rofl... my thoughts entirely. Even had to open the map to make sure things hadn't changed whilst i was snoozin ---------------------------------------------- We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by
Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 09:14:00 - [124] Originally by: Meddly Edited by: Meddly on 03/03/2007 04:44:35 Originally by: Drunken Cajun I think they provide alts for FiX. Which is funny if it is a FIX person trying to chestbeat about chasing anyone off. When they've been running off for the past couple of weeks at least. Sorry not FIX, and seeing how you guys need what 5-10 alliances to take on FIX and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Also FIX at least engages at hostile POS's. Since you're not FIX, im not sure that you're right person to be telling them how they are going and how many alliances it takes to kill them... IRON butchered FIX, Schism did help us at the time, but im sure FIX wouldn't have been a real issue for us alone. we had some good fights and I dont hold anything at all against them, but what you are saying is plain wrong. If bob want to but out for a week or so we can take their stations... bob are slowing our progress, and doing very well at this point in time.
Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 09:21:00 - [125] Originally by: Weatherman Originally by: Josh Causto Originally by: Meddly ...and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Appearantly you have never been in POS warfare before.... lol, there were only like, 2 bob pos and one mc pos in 9cg to begin with. It shouldn't have been that hard to get more pos up than that in a 40 moon system, that is, if the coalition is as in control of Q as all your forum warriors have been reporting. Also, you guys can say whatever you want about FIX. At the end of the day, you felt the need to bring 5+ alliances to Q and I think that speaks louder than forum posts. I wonder how many alliances in your coalition of northern territories would do as well under those odds. Again... its nothing to do with FIX... its about bob... fix is nothing these days. So yeah.. lets not bother talking about FIX... its all BoB
Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.03.03 09:49:00 - [126] An analysis BoB's series of satellite alliances is somewhat genius. See by having FIX, XELAS, and MC between them and their enemies, they prevent actual fighting in BoB space. This saves BoB's structure for later in the war, helping them to build additional ships and arms and prepare for the war ahead. The short BoB/LV alliance seems to have had little longterm impact, due to the Northern Invasion. LV is on the brink of utter collapse at this point, they probably won't be fully destroyed but they certainly are almost to the point of not really being a major player in the war. This means that the RedSwarm and its allies will be hitting MC territories within the next 3 weeks. MC can expect them to use similar tactics they used against LV. They will go for your capital shipyards and they will destroy them. Once the invasion of MC begins, BoB will have to shift its most powerful ships from the north to the south. This will leave FIX and XELAS vulnerable to the Northern Forces of IRON, D2, MM, FLA and everyone else. At this point the Northern Forces seem to be devoting only enough forces to the battle to ensure tying up BoB's main ships, the titans and their capital ships. This was it appears always the goal, keep them from helping LV until RedSwarm destroyed LV and were knocking on BoB's door. LV will fall in the next 2 weeks. MC will lose its territory within a month after that. Around the same time FIX will lose a large part of its own space. By May they'll be fighting in BoB territory. What preparation BoB makes between now and then to defend their territory will probably determine the outcome, it is unlikely that they'll be able to hold off the brunt of the attack for long though. Within 3 months of the attack on BoB territories BoB's territorial size will probably shrink by 1/2 to 1/3 its current size. That's at least how I see the war unfolding. At the moment I still believe North & East Coalitions are winning....
arjun Die Apokalyptischen Reiter Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.03 10:00:00 - [127] atm the defenders do a good job. the last atacks have been repelled it seems. also the 3rd front in mc space involving aaa didnt materialise. bob can sit in the center and jump its capital fleet to the most urgent areas with ease. beating one day the fountain atackers and the next day the querious atackers with their superiority in capitalships. and so on rinse and repeat. lets see if we can keep the pressure up long enough for a 3rd front to open up.
Jimmy Doe Bladerunners Mordus Angels	Posted - 2007.03.03 10:14:00 - [128] Quote: Sorry not FIX, and seeing how you guys need what 5-10 alliances to take on FIX and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Also FIX at least engages at hostile POS's. seems to me it only took 1 small alliance, namely mine, to kill over 675 FIX including cap ships. the only reason we didnt kill more was due to not having enough points to lock down stab-monkeys. If bob decided to leave you to your own demise, i think any amount of npc school isk famers could come take your space and stations. "The tree of liberty is nurtured with the blood of patriots."
Chirinako Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.03 10:16:00 - [129] In a nutshell - Both sides are doing well in this war. I'm personally enjoying it. RAZOR took 9cg - Boo hoo, you expect me to cry and run to Bob? No, quite the opposite. The fact that they've made a direct attack on one of our main systems ensures some good action over the next few weeks, something that's been lacking since the coalition tried to take ED and failed. I have a lot of respect for the guys and girls attacking Querious right now...well, most of them. Razor especially, because they're not beating their chest about gaining sov and taking a station temporarilly. Razor have always been respectful oponnents and I think a few of their allies would benefit from following suit. In terms of people that say that FIX are nothing and the only reason Querious is still under FIX control is because Bob jump their titans in occasionally, is sorely mistaken. Many people forget DFC and GUN who are defending Querious as much as FIX. Although small, those 2 are doing as much as FIX are. in terms of winning and losing in Querious? It's a deadlock at the moment. 3 Stations are still under Bob/FIX control, RAZOR took 1 but even they know that it will be a ping pong match for a while. Whenever it comes to head on fleet battles, BOTH sides have now started the "if we don't have a superior force, we won't engage" thing. From small gangs to huge fleets, this is the case. Most of the time, when the coalition are gate camping our systems, the majority will be within jump range because they know we'll form a fleet to try and take them. We'll bait them, but most will jump through. Similarly, when we're gatecamping, we'll be aligned to a POS because we know that the coalition will bring down yet another superior fleet. Nobody is winning in Querious right now, I think anyone that claims to be winning has delusions. Everyone should just sit back and enjoy this war. People that like PVP, live for this opportunity to basically blow S*** up. Hopefully this lasts for a good while longer and good luck to everyone involved.
Tequilapepper Amarr Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.03 11:38:00 - [130] Edited by: Tequilapepper on 03/03/2007 11:35:40 We would like to congratulate with the Coalition for the results, my jump clone is now somewhere in deep empire. As for the fights, they knew we won't give up and we knew they won't either, so to be perfectly honest all those are fun battles, if we keep the smack in empire all this will be even more fun, for both sides. regards Teq FIX Grunt
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.03 11:50:00 - [131] The fighting is in Querlious and stations are changing hands. I suspect the coalition is a lot happier with this "deadlock" than FIX. I have to agree with Chirinako on the fact it would be delusional for FIX to consider they are winning. As for the Coalition forces it would seem they too accept they have not won. There is plenty of fighting left in this war as noted BOB/FIX still got 3 stations and one is in ping pong. And once that has been settled there many more targets.
xHomicide Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 11:50:00 - [132] Supercapital warfare kinda sucks. Nevertheless, has been entertaining. --- http://www.razor-eve.org/killboard/?a=kills Your Signature exceeds max allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels. Mail us if you have any questions -Eldo
Taka Caldari Quam Singulari	Posted - 2007.03.03 12:10:00 - [133] Originally by: QwaarJet Edited by: QwaarJet on 02/03/2007 13:33:02 If BoB comes back down and trys to play ping pong, it means they are here and not elsewhere. If they don't come back down, then the system is secured and we can continue on through Querious with the little to no resistance we've had as late.Either way, we win. cool so if you guys are down south then it must mean no-one is defending tribute then....anyone wants tribute nows your chance...GO GET EM TIGER!!
Hair F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.03.03 12:37:00 - [134] Originally by: Chirinako In a nutshell - Both sides are doing well in this war. I'm personally enjoying it. RAZOR took 9cg - Boo hoo, you expect me to cry and run to Bob? I dislike smack, but from the perspective of someone who has taken part in the majority of fights in Querious recently, you need a reality check. So far, BoB have fought the Querious war for you. BoB dreads come in to take down pos's, BoB titans engage our fleets (ok zap them remotely through a cyno ) I've seen a couple Fix camp 3-f for a bit now and then, that's been pretty much it.
Luthien Firefoot Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 13:18:00 - [135] Originally by: Meddly Edited by: Meddly on 03/03/2007 04:44:35 Originally by: Drunken Cajun I think they provide alts for FiX. Which is funny if it is a FIX person trying to chestbeat about chasing anyone off. When they've been running off for the past couple of weeks at least. Sorry not FIX, and seeing how you guys need what 5-10 alliances to take on FIX and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Also FIX at least engages at hostile POS's. Respect to my enemies, all of them, it's been fun and plenty more to follow. To this alt plank I wouldn't give anything, except maybe the telephone number of a vet and a piece of paper saying: 'Get yourself neutered and then put down, at least if you don't die we won't have your amoebic genes infect the rest of humanity'
Weatherman Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.03 13:48:00 - [136] Originally by: Aphotic Raven Originally by: Meddly Edited by: Meddly on 03/03/2007 04:44:35 Originally by: Drunken Cajun I think they provide alts for FiX. Which is funny if it is a FIX person trying to chestbeat about chasing anyone off. When they've been running off for the past couple of weeks at least. Sorry not FIX, and seeing how you guys need what 5-10 alliances to take on FIX and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Also FIX at least engages at hostile POS's. Since you're not FIX, im not sure that you're right person to be telling them how they are going and how many alliances it takes to kill them... IRON butchered FIX, Schism did help us at the time, but im sure FIX wouldn't have been a real issue for us alone. we had some good fights and I dont hold anything at all against them, but what you are saying is plain wrong. If bob want to but out for a week or so we can take their stations... bob are slowing our progress, and doing very well at this point in time. Yea, I remember that. How many pos/stations did you guys get again? I think it would be interesting if BoB weren't here and we were fighting just one other alliance too, but that war with IRON was completely different in terms of the aggressive goals of the attackers and the resolution to defend of the defenders. So you can forum chest beat all you want, but the fact remains that you attacked us solo, we kept our space. You came back with with 5+ of your friends, then we got worried. To be honest, some of you make out like BoB could fight you with retarded monkeys as their allies and still dominate you, and yet you call us fanbois etc. That said, gf to the smack free coalition members, especially razor.
SSgt Sniper Gallente In Excess Enterprises Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 15:00:00 - [137] Edited by: SSgt Sniper on 03/03/2007 14:57:12 Originally by: Vladimir Tinakin Edited by: Vladimir Tinakin on 02/03/2007 18:50:05 Originally by: Skoot Guys are you out of your minds , if i doubt some words from a north alliance member i get myself as a bob alt pet slave whatever ... I was trying to understand how some of the RZR guys are claiming "either way we win" when they and the rest of the people who try to get 9cg where not able to score a single victory over BOB . I was under the impresion that you have to kill ships to win a war ( ASCN FTW ) . Anyway im out of this nonsense forums , wondering how far this histeria will go If war was strickly about who kills more, then the Goons shouldn't be able to undock from kisogo without spontaneously combusting Its not number of kills, or even number of battles won. Its controlling where your enemy fights, controlling where he can divert his resources, and ultimately sapping his strength. Hit a block of ice with a rubber mallet, and you'd do some damage but it might not shatter. Chisel it in a few areas, work in a few fissures, and then hit it...and you've got daiquiri mix! Look at the strategic board, not the tactical. BoB's income is being disrupted--I imagine they have uber reserves and still some decent income from T2 sales, but I would also imagine the books are running into the red as far as cash flow goes (more out than in). Their pilots have to region jump to cover enough ground--admittedly, easier to do with cap jump bridges. The initiative and the momentum is with the coalition(s) at the moment, and unless BoB does a Battle-of-the-Bulge maneuver this seems unlikely to change. Official disclaimer: Archaean Cooperative is officially neutral in this brujaja, aside from approving of the war; we sell ships and war is good for business edit: they censored a synonym for fissure. There's a rumor that BoB's been forced to start ice mine like crazy. I think we made them spend all thier stront supply on us. Grats to Razor, hang on to your hats. It's gonna be a bumpy ride. Good lord I need to fix my sig. --------- Representing all the casual gamers happily living in Empire, that want NO PART of your 0.0 annoyances. However, I do not represent my corp. We vote first.
Karina Harington Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 15:25:00 - [138] Originally by: Weatherman Yea, I remember that. How many pos/stations did you guys get again? I think it would be interesting if BoB weren't here and we were fighting just one other alliance too, but that war with IRON was completely different in terms of the aggressive goals of the attackers and the resolution to defend of the defenders. So you can forum chest beat all you want, but the fact remains that you attacked us solo, we kept our space. Thanks for proving you didn't know what our goals were when we came down in January.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.03 15:33:00 - [139] Nice post Molly, but it still seems to me you and your friends are desperately trying to ignore the big crashing sound of your ally to the southeast shattering and the huge red stormclouds on the eastern horizon slowly starting to drift westward... -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft.
Weatherman Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.03 15:58:00 - [140] Originally by: Karina Harington Originally by: Weatherman Yea, I remember that. How many pos/stations did you guys get again? I think it would be interesting if BoB weren't here and we were fighting just one other alliance too, but that war with IRON was completely different in terms of the aggressive goals of the attackers and the resolution to defend of the defenders. So you can forum chest beat all you want, but the fact remains that you attacked us solo, we kept our space. Thanks for proving you didn't know what our goals were when we came down in January. Didn't I say in that post that your goals were different than they are now? Maybe you should read the whole post before you reply.
Habraka Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 16:05:00 - [141] Edited by: Habraka on 03/03/2007 16:02:29 I see FIX becoming a new superpower in the south after the war. Ok, serious now. All the BoB fanbois need to realise that our conditions for victory are NOT taking all BoB stations in a day. Heck, if we would take every single BoB/Pet station in a day, the fanbois would still be smacking us cause we didn't take it in 12 hours . People fail to realise this is a war of attrition, it will rage for many months if not a year or longer. This is only the first month of many, and time is on our side. We haven't made any spectacular progress so far, mainly due to the sheer size of alliances and corporations involved in the invasion. Querious alone has 15-20 alliances at the moment, one bigger than the other (smallest alliance has 22 members afaik). Each and every of those alliances has a different modus operandi, different FC's, some are excellent at PvP, some have an industrial background, some have a dedicated capital fleet, others have a single carrier, but it's a huge amount off work to co÷rdinate everything. But guess what, our alliances are steadily growing together, getting a feel off eachothers capabilities and we are getting more and more effective. Besides, we don't need to take the stations in Querious at the moment, we are just fooling around a bit till the 1000 member BS gangs of the RaGoon Federation comes knocking on your doorstep. We love it each time BoB brings it's 50 member capital fleet to 9CG or ED-, simply cause it keeps away from the other fronts. At the moment BoB can still freely move their fleet with Titans, but don't forget the Coalition is rapidly increasing it's own Titan count, not mentioning the countless dreadnaughts and carriers that are being produced. Where did I hear the rumour of RaGoon Federation have over 300 capital ship pilots ?
Dominixa Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 16:11:00 - [142] So your basically admitting that you cannot handle the job with what you currently have and need 1,000 more pilots? Originally by: Habraka Edited by: Habraka on 03/03/2007 16:02:29 I see FIX becoming a new superpower in the south after the war. Ok, serious now. All the BoB fanbois need to realise that our conditions for victory are NOT taking all BoB stations in a day. Heck, if we would take every single BoB/Pet station in a day, the fanbois would still be smacking us cause we didn't take it in 12 hours . People fail to realise this is a war of attrition, it will rage for many months if not a year or longer. This is only the first month of many, and time is on our side. We haven't made any spectacular progress so far, mainly due to the sheer size of alliances and corporations involved in the invasion. Querious alone has 15-20 alliances at the moment, one bigger than the other (smallest alliance has 22 members afaik). Each and every of those alliances has a different modus operandi, different FC's, some are excellent at PvP, some have an industrial background, some have a dedicated capital fleet, others have a single carrier, but it's a huge amount off work to co÷rdinate everything. But guess what, our alliances are steadily growing together, getting a feel off eachothers capabilities and we are getting more and more effective. Besides, we don't need to take the stations in Querious at the moment, we are just fooling around a bit till the 1000 member BS gangs of the RaGoon Federation comes knocking on your doorstep. We love it each time BoB brings it's 50 member capital fleet to 9CG or ED-, simply cause it keeps away from the other fronts. At the moment BoB can still freely move their fleet with Titans, but don't forget the Coalition is rapidly increasing it's own Titan count, not mentioning the countless dreadnaughts and carriers that are being produced. Where did I hear the rumour of RaGoon Federation have over 300 capital ship pilots ?
Talen Reaper AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.03.03 16:25:00 - [143] why so much flaming every pvper in eve should be happy as heck with this war going on merc corps getting paid ..privateer ganking haulers & stragglers.. production corps selling lots of equipment ..small corps wandering through 00 space ..looking for that miner or ratter ..ccp must be having the time of there lives after all this is exactly what they wanted all along a full blown war ..hell this is prob just a ccp stress test ....
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.03.03 16:34:00 - [144] Originally by: Dominixa So your basically admitting that you cannot handle the job with what you currently have and need 1,000 more pilots? Originally by: Habraka Edited by: Habraka on 03/03/2007 16:02:29 I see FIX becoming a new superpower in the south after the war. Ok, serious now. All the BoB fanbois need to realise that our conditions for victory are NOT taking all BoB stations in a day. Heck, if we would take every single BoB/Pet station in a day, the fanbois would still be smacking us cause we didn't take it in 12 hours . People fail to realise this is a war of attrition, it will rage for many months if not a year or longer. This is only the first month of many, and time is on our side. We haven't made any spectacular progress so far, mainly due to the sheer size of alliances and corporations involved in the invasion. Querious alone has 15-20 alliances at the moment, one bigger than the other (smallest alliance has 22 members afaik). Each and every of those alliances has a different modus operandi, different FC's, some are excellent at PvP, some have an industrial background, some have a dedicated capital fleet, others have a single carrier, but it's a huge amount off work to co÷rdinate everything. But guess what, our alliances are steadily growing together, getting a feel off eachothers capabilities and we are getting more and more effective. Besides, we don't need to take the stations in Querious at the moment, we are just fooling around a bit till the 1000 member BS gangs of the RaGoon Federation comes knocking on your doorstep. We love it each time BoB brings it's 50 member capital fleet to 9CG or ED-, simply cause it keeps away from the other fronts. At the moment BoB can still freely move their fleet with Titans, but don't forget the Coalition is rapidly increasing it's own Titan count, not mentioning the countless dreadnaughts and carriers that are being produced. Where did I hear the rumour of RaGoon Federation have over 300 capital ship pilots ? We don't want to take the losses it would require to take them alone withen a week. Could the northern coalition take querilous withen a week? Probably, but we would be abosolutely exasted, and flying kestrels with a half load of rockets by the end of it.
Destruct Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 17:00:00 - [145] This is far from over. We are all looking forward to a long conflict. It wouldn't be much fun if it only lasted a week, would it!? Hf all!!! You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word. - Al Capone
Habraka Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 17:01:00 - [146] Originally by: Dominixa So your basically admitting that you cannot handle the job with what you currently have and need 1,000 more pilots? Look, let's keep this simple. McBoB have very good leaders, they have very good FC's, they have a lot of very skilled PvP'ers and they have a very good industrial base. IRON/RZR/MM/insert random alliance here, cannot take on McBoB on their own, we know that, they know that and our allies know that. If you hadn't figured it out yet, D2 have a massive capital fleet, they have a lot of numbers, so they can handle invading a region on their own or with limited back up from a few other alliances, so they are attacking Fountain, the western flank. -A- have a massive capital fleet, they have a lot of numbers, so they can invade a region on their own, Period Basis in this case. RaGoon Federation has a massive capital fleet, they have fleets of thousand members, they can definately handle attacking multiple regions at a time, which they are doing against LV. The alliances in the Querious Coalition do not have a massive capital fleet, they do not have big numbers in their own, so it was decided that the alliances that can't invade a region on their own and take sovereignity should team up together and concentrate on one region. To all you McBoB fanbois, I'll repeat this one more time, and you'll probably love me for it: IRON, Razor, Morsus Mihi, Pure, Schism, Rock, MOA, -10, Tri, FLA, and the other alliances I've forgotten, cannot take McBoB on alone. I'm a member of IRON, and I know that my alliance cannot invade Querious on it's own and take and hold stations. McBoB have a lot more capital ships, they have the advantage of fighting in their home regions and frankly, they have a lot more experienced PvP'ers. But luckely for us, this isn't about playing it fair, one alliance against the other, or have equal numbers, this is about eradicating McBoB, and The Coalition will use every legal tactic to achieve our goal. If this means spamming POS's, if this means blobbing with 1000+ member fleets, if this means having to fight in T1 cruisers after our wallets are depleted after months of fighting, even if we have to NAP every single alliance in the game, we don't care, we will kill you.
Apple Boy Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 17:16:00 - [147] Originally by: Chirinako In a nutshell - Both sides are doing well in this war. I'm personally enjoying it. RAZOR took 9cg - Boo hoo, you expect me to cry and run to Bob? No, quite the opposite. The fact that they've made a direct attack on one of our main systems ensures some good action over the next few weeks, something that's been lacking since the coalition tried to take ED and failed. I have a lot of respect for the guys and girls attacking Querious right now...well, most of them. Razor especially, because they're not beating their chest about gaining sov and taking a station temporarilly. Razor have always been respectful opponents and I think a few of their allies would benefit from following suit. In terms of people that say that FIX are nothing and the only reason Querious is still under FIX control is because Bob jump their titans in occasionally, is sorely mistaken. Many people forget DFC and GUN who are defending Querious as much as FIX. Although small, those 2 are doing as much as FIX are. in terms of winning and losing in Querious? It's a deadlock at the moment. 3 Stations are still under Bob/FIX control, RAZOR took 1 but even they know that it will be a ping pong match for a while. Whenever it comes to head on fleet battles, BOTH sides have now started the "if we don't have a superior force, we won't engage" thing. From small gangs to huge fleets, this is the case. Most of the time, when the coalition are gate camping our systems, the majority will be within jump range because they know we'll form a fleet to try and take them. We'll bait them, but most will jump through. Similarly, when we're gatecamping, we'll be aligned to a POS because we know that the coalition will bring down yet another superior fleet. Nobody is winning in Querious right now, I think anyone that claims to be winning has delusions. Everyone should just sit back and enjoy this war. People that like PVP, live for this opportunity to basically blow S*** up. Hopefully this lasts for a good while longer and good luck to everyone involved. hey thanks for the compliment, much appreciated and you guys are doing a good job too. A few things to point out though. Chirinako is right about not running behind BoB. I said it somewhere else too, but we haven't seen much BoB showing up besides capital ships and a recent small battle I was involved with. It's mostly been fix putting up the battles. on the other hand, that's not entirely true about the superior force and the smaller one running. Yesterday I ran a gang of 18 into your gate camp of almost 30. then again some of your guys buggered off and as you thought you had us dead you got a surprise visit from a returning gang, but that was still fun. I would also like to give props to fix and some BoB members as at a later battle where we outnumbered almost 2:1 (surprised them again, they only knew about one gang and weren't quite prepared for the second) they still stayed to the finish. and as chirinako said, you guys are treating the POS warfare as if the fact that we're getting our POSes pounded, or they are currently one station down that it's the end of the world. POS warfare is a small fraction of this war, it's the blood pumping battles that make it count . Here's to some good fights!
Shiraz Merlot Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 01:09:00 - [148] Originally by: Chirinako I have a lot of respect for the guys and girls attacking Querious right now...well, most of them. Razor especially, because they're not beating their chest about gaining sov and taking a station temporarilly. Razor have always been respectful oponnents and I think a few of their allies would benefit from following suit. Can I just say that we appreciate comments like this greatly. There might be a member or two blowing off steam from time to time, but our CS strongly encourages us to keep things ... professional :) c.f. also the Goon CCG card for RAZOR http://www.eve-tribune.com/2_5/GoonSwarmCCG_razor.jpg
Tar om Minmatar Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:52:00 - [149] less talking, more shooting!! /me takes Shiraz's football and kicks it back to the trenches ;) -- We are the Octavian Vanguard www.octavianvanguard.net "The belief in the possibility of a short decisive war appears to be one of the most ancient and dangerous of human illusions."
Lady Ann	Posted - 2007.03.05 14:18:00 - [150] IMO FIX would loose Querious to Razor or Morsus Mihi alone without help in a mounth. Dont you understand that its BoB and MC who are fighting in Querious? Btw FIX, dont think that you are so special that all north is fighting agaisnt you, they are fighting BoB and MC but not you. You just suffer from this war.
D75485 Underworld Zombies	Posted - 2007.03.17 21:30:00 - [151] did bob get it back
Valkazm Amarr ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.17 21:35:00 - [152] Originally by: D75485 did bob get it back you could just look at your eve map would solve it for you .. Step into the darkness
Cloue Gallente Stripping Agency	Posted - 2007.03.17 21:46:00 - [153] Originally by: D75485 did bob get it back Why are you bumping all these threads idiot 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Gallente Stripping Agency.
JackOfHearts Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.17 22:09:00 - [154] Yeah it is confirmed, it went from the left hand to the right hand, more details at 11:00!
Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.17 22:32:00 - [155] Originally by: Weatherman Originally by: Aphotic Raven Originally by: Meddly Edited by: Meddly on 03/03/2007 04:44:35 Originally by: Drunken Cajun I think they provide alts for FiX. Which is funny if it is a FIX person trying to chestbeat about chasing anyone off. When they've been running off for the past couple of weeks at least. Sorry not FIX, and seeing how you guys need what 5-10 alliances to take on FIX and get sov FINALLY for a few days after 4 weeks says it all. Also FIX at least engages at hostile POS's. Since you're not FIX, im not sure that you're right person to be telling them how they are going and how many alliances it takes to kill them... IRON butchered FIX, Schism did help us at the time, but im sure FIX wouldn't have been a real issue for us alone. we had some good fights and I dont hold anything at all against them, but what you are saying is plain wrong. If bob want to but out for a week or so we can take their stations... bob are slowing our progress, and doing very well at this point in time. Yea, I remember that. How many pos/stations did you guys get again? I think it would be interesting if BoB weren't here and we were fighting just one other alliance too, but that war with IRON was completely different in terms of the aggressive goals of the attackers and the resolution to defend of the defenders. So you can forum chest beat all you want, but the fact remains that you attacked us solo, we kept our space. You came back with with 5+ of your friends, then we got worried. To be honest, some of you make out like BoB could fight you with retarded monkeys as their allies and still dominate you, and yet you call us fanbois etc. That said, gf to the smack free coalition members, especially razor. I never said you were retarded monkeys, you said that yourself. That war was different... we didnt pull out the cap ships and you had to play defense most of the time... the high sec camp ins/break outs were pretty fun though... and the early fleet battles (including the ones we lost) were a blast. Originally by: Dr Cupid Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!
FireFox McProwler Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.03.17 22:59:00 - [156] Originally by: Valkazm Originally by: D75485 did bob get it back you could just look at your eve map would solve it for you .. I think that is too hard for some people. They like to go to the forums so the trolls get some pew pew time with sharp words.
Algey The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.03.18 00:04:00 - [157] Originally by: FireFox McProwler Originally by: Valkazm Originally by: D75485 did bob get it back you could just look at your eve map would solve it for you .. I think that is too hard for some people. They like to go to the forums so the trolls get some pew pew time with sharp words. Answering them might work however (said by a person too lazy to check when BoB retook the station). There really needs to be an independant news service, however since there isn't one in the real world I doubt we will see one here.

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