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Kintac
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Posted - 2003.12.17 19:50:00 -
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Hi,
according to some texts Deep Core Mining would work with low roidtypes ( Scordite ,.. ) Well I tried it and it doesnt¦work. It just mines normal ore...
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crice
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Posted - 2003.12.17 20:43:00 -
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I am confused? You said it just mines normal ore? IMO normal ore is scordite. Deep Core's mine Morphite. That is what they are designed for.
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Blink
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Posted - 2003.12.17 22:08:00 -
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Hi,
according to some texts Deep Core Mining would work with low roidtypes ( Scordite ,.. ) Well I tried it and it doesnt¦work. It just mines normal ore...
As I understand it you need the dcm laser to mine mercoxite which refines to morphite. So you wont get morp from anything but merx.
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Moses Alticpoco
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Posted - 2003.12.18 00:28:00 -
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dont the roids burst open???
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Naal Morno
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Posted - 2003.12.18 01:31:00 -
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Ok... do you at least get MORE ore per minute when using deep core mining?
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Fallen Angel
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Posted - 2003.12.18 01:54:00 -
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naal, actually less... but its an ore that you can't get any other way
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Kintac
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Posted - 2003.12.18 20:25:00 -
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Name Mercoxit (Ore)
Group Ore
Race
Description Mercoxit is a very unstable type of ore that is never found exposed in the open for long. It is only found buried deep inside basic asteroid rock and needs to be blasted free and mined quickly before it breaks down, using specialized mining techniques. Mercoxit is the only ore that yields the extraordinary Morphite mineral.
Base Price 1149400
Volume 16 m3
Capacity 0
Area of effect 5000
EM Damage 50 hp
Explosive Damage 50 hp
Kinetic Damage 50 hp
Thermal Damage 50 hp
Primary Skill required Deep Core Mining
522 0.05
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Blink
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Posted - 2003.12.18 21:40:00 -
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Name Mercoxit (Ore)
Group Ore
Race
Description Mercoxit is a very unstable type of ore that is never found exposed in the open for long. It is only found buried deep inside basic asteroid rock and needs to be blasted free and mined quickly before it breaks down, using specialized mining techniques. Mercoxit is the only ore that yields the extraordinary Morphite mineral.
Base Price 1149400
Volume 16 m3
Capacity 0
Area of effect 5000
EM Damage 50 hp
Explosive Damage 50 hp
Kinetic Damage 50 hp
Thermal Damage 50 hp
Primary Skill required Deep Core Mining
522 0.05
Hmm. Well from that description it sounds like it should come from anything "basic" But who knows at this point. I really dont see it coming from veldspar or something-maybe it has to be a really big roid.
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Lentia
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Posted - 2003.12.19 17:53:00 -
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there is tons of the new ore in non-empire space. it is a separte roid.
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Vierna Hu'Net
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Posted - 2003.12.20 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: Vierna Hu'Net on 20/12/2003 23:29:37
Yup indeed the old DataBase text and discription should be changed, the stuff is an all new roid and its really out there.
Have fun looking for it and as said before make sure you have loads of backup if you are gonna mine it. Its almost the same as mining Arkanor in a Navitas and only 2-3 cruiser pirates in the belt, if you gonna try mining Mercosite in a cruiser
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Paul Dubois
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Posted - 2003.12.21 03:11:00 -
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Used to do that in the early days *sigh* run in to an asteroid field in my probe in the 0.0 areas with cruisers and hope there wasn't anyone there, keeping my finger on the warp for when they did eventually appear, died the odd time but it was worth it for the megacyte :-)
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Egoblast
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Posted - 2004.01.23 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Egoblast on 23/01/2004 17:31:05
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Name Mercoxit (Ore)
Group Ore
Race
Description Mercoxit is a very unstable type of ore that is never found exposed in the open for long. It is only found buried deep inside basic asteroid rock and needs to be blasted free and mined quickly before it breaks down, using specialized mining techniques. Mercoxit is the only ore that yields the extraordinary Morphite mineral.
Base Price 1149400
Volume 16 m3
Capacity 0
Area of effect 5000
EM Damage 50 hp
Explosive Damage 50 hp
Kinetic Damage 50 hp
Thermal Damage 50 hp
Primary Skill required Deep Core Mining
522 0.05
Hmm. Well from that description it sounds like it should come from anything "basic" But who knows at this point. I really dont see it coming from veldspar or something-maybe it has to be a really big roid.
Mercoxit is the only ore that yields the extraordinary Morphite mineral.
think you need to read it again matey....
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.01.24 00:09:00 -
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Hi,
according to some texts Deep Core Mining would work with low roidtypes ( Scordite ,.. ) Well I tried it and it doesnt¦work. It just mines normal ore...
YOU Need to get the DCM miner 1 too
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.01.24 06:24:00 -
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OK, I have Deep Core Mining (DCM) level 1 and here's how it all works....
First, to mine Mercoxit, you have to use a Deep Core Mining Laser (DCML). These lasers only pull 1 unit of Mercoxit per minute. They can also be used for mining any other ore; however, they will only do it at the speed of a Miner I. (40 m3 or ore per minute plus skills). Mining normal ore with a Deep Core Mining laser will not yield anything different than a normal laser would. They are meant specifically to mine Mercoxit.
Because of the high CPU and capacitor usage, the mining ship probably has to be dedicated to mining, and have a fleet of ships defending it. The only other way would be to 'ninja mine' the ore out from under the noses of NPCs flying battleships.
The DCMLs are only effective out to 5,000 m, so you have to get very close to the Mercoxit to mine them. While mining, the asteroid often produces a Mining Pollution Cloud, which can do as much as 140 damage every 30 seconds. There will be less damage, less frequently with higher levels of the DCM skill. The damage cloud has a radius of about 5,000 m.
With a perfect refining ability, you can get as much as 530 Morphite for each refine of 250 Mercoxit. The biggest industrial ships currently in the game are just barely able to hold 3 refines of Mercoxit.
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SerpentBlade
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Posted - 2004.01.24 06:37:00 -
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Not to be overly analytical... its kind of odd that you have to use a DEEP CORE mining laser.. on an ore... that isn't large enough for you to find a core deep in it.
You think CCP created the Mercoxite ore because they didn't get DCM working properly with HUGE roids (which would have DEEP CORES for you to need to penetrate and mine from).
Anyways, not much we can do about it :/
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Emic
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Posted - 2004.01.24 08:35:00 -
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This adds to the confusion:
Pyroxeres is an interesting ore type, as it is very plain in most respects except one - DEEP CORE refining yields a little bit of nocxium, increasing its value considerbly. It also has a large portion of tritanium and some pyerite and mexallon. 333 ore units are needed to refine.
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Miri Tirzan
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Posted - 2004.01.24 14:26:00 -
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This adds to the confusion:
Pyroxeres is an interesting ore type, as it is very plain in most respects except one - DEEP CORE refining yields a little bit of nocxium, increasing its value considerbly. It also has a large portion of tritanium and some pyerite and mexallon. 333 ore units are needed to refine.
Hate to break it to you but nocxium is produced when it is refined no matter what mining laser you use. Not mined much have you?
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Deva Dimentia
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Posted - 2004.01.25 01:20:00 -
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Spud roids do hold morphite also but its only about 6 per refine
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Soren
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Posted - 2004.01.25 17:03:00 -
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I've found a "hidden" mercoxite roid, anyone want to purchase location  evemail me
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Duncan
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Posted - 2004.01.25 22:11:00 -
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FYI morphite is also present in trace ammounts in dark ochre and spodumain.
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Shayleigh Snowflower
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Posted - 2004.01.26 19:09:00 -
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The DCMLs are only effective out to 5,000 m, so you have to get very close to the Mercoxit to mine them. While mining, the asteroid often produces a Mining Pollution Cloud, which can do as much as 140 damage every 30 seconds. There will be less damage, less frequently with higher levels of the DCM skill. The damage cloud has a radius of about 5,000 m.
With a perfect refining ability, you can get as much as 530 Morphite for each refine of 250 Mercoxit. The biggest industrial ships currently in the game are just barely able to hold 3 refines of Mercoxit.
250units X 40m3 = 10000m3/refine
How will you fit 30 000 m3 in a hauler??
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.01.27 04:34:00 -
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The DCMLs are only effective out to 5,000 m, so you have to get very close to the Mercoxit to mine them. While mining, the asteroid often produces a Mining Pollution Cloud, which can do as much as 140 damage every 30 seconds. There will be less damage, less frequently with higher levels of the DCM skill. The damage cloud has a radius of about 5,000 m.
With a perfect refining ability, you can get as much as 530 Morphite for each refine of 250 Mercoxit. The biggest industrial ships currently in the game are just barely able to hold 3 refines of Mercoxit.
250units X 40m3 = 10000m3/refine
How will you fit 30 000 m3 in a hauler??
Iteron Mark V with one 27.44% expander, two 25%, and two 24% expanders. That gives 23,066 m3 of cargo space. Throw in 7 Giant Secure Containers and you get an additional 900*7 cargo space bringing the total capacity up to 29,366.72. A few better expanders and you'll get more than 3 refines in there.
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Shayleigh Snowflower
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Posted - 2004.01.27 16:38:00 -
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OHHH!!!!
Drool!!!!!
I whould LOVE to meet that Iteron V in space..
It whould die screaming before my Bestover..
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Ravyn
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Posted - 2004.01.29 02:03:00 -
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Mercoxit is a very dense astroid which yields 1 piece of mercoxit every mining laser cycle. Each ore weighs 40m3 and it takes 250 per refine. This is going to be 10,000m3. When mining a gaseous cloud forms. The higher your DCM skill is, the less chance of a gaseous cloud forming. The damage inflicted while in the cloud remains at 140 per every 1-2 cycle regardless of how many DCM lasers you have going. You can not, I repeat can not, simply move ore from your cargo bay to a can since the can also takes damage from the gaseous cloud. Due to weight restrictions, only vexors and battleships should mine it. For me, I mined it using my megathron. When full, I'd mwd to my can 10km away. The gaseous cloud looks like its both 3,000 to 5,000 meters from both your ship and the roid. 250 mercoxit yield approximately 504 morphite per refine.
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Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2004.01.29 09:42:00 -
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The polution cloud created by the DCM's is actually doing 50 damage of each basic damage type. The actual damage inflicted is the raw damage altered by your ship's resistances to the various damage types. I.e. if your ship has 0% EM resistance you'll receive the full 50 damage of EM treatment. Activiting an EM ward reduced the amount of EM damage down to 25 damage.
Also, you can use casual containers, but be sure you jettison them outside the 5 km damage radius of the mecroxit. I've got no confirmation on this but it wouldn't surprise me if the chances of being hit by the polution cloud were smaller near the outskirts of the cloud than right on top of the asteroid. In either case, positioning your ship near the DCM's distance limit allows you to drag the mercoxit to a container outside the hotzone.
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Lentia
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Posted - 2004.01.30 01:16:00 -
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Anyone using a Scorpion to mine Merc? It has such a large CPU you can fit 4 DCM lasers. Plus have plently of cpu for mwd and shield tanking.
Lentia
Military Officer
http://www.staf.online-guild.com/ |
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