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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
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Posted - 2016.06.15 17:50:08 -
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Welcome to the EVE-O Preview thread. StinkRay, the original creator of EVE-O Preview, plays EVE in phases. Makari Aeron, the previous lead developer of the project, did temporarily leave EVE. So I'll be taking over the forum thread. The original threads can be found here and here.
Created to aid playing with multiple clients in CCP game EVE-Online.
It's essentially a task switcher, it does not relay any keyboard/mouse events and suchlike. The program works with EVE, EVE through Steam, or any combination thereof.
The program does NOT (and will NOT ever) do the following things:
- modify EVE Online interface
- display modified EVE Online interface
- broadcast any keyboard or mouse events
- anyhow interact with EVE Online except of bringing its main window to foreground or resizing it
System Requirements
- Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8/8.1, Windows 10
- Windows Aero Enabled
- Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5+ (it is already included in Windows 8+. For older systems the installer can be downloaded here)
How To Install & Use
Download page Direct download (version 2.0.0)
Code Repository
- Download and extract the contents of the .zip archive to a location of your choice (ie: Desktop, CCP folder, etc). Please do not install the program into the Program Files or Program files (x86) folders. These folders in general do not allow applications to write anything there while EVE-O Preview now stores its configuration file next to its executable, thus requiring the write access to the folder it is installed into.
- Start up both EVE-O Preview and your EVE Clients (the order does not matter)
- Adjust settings as you see fit. Program options are described here
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This program is legal under the EULA/ToS:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Quote: Please keep the discussion on topic. The legitimacy of this software has already been discussed and doesn't need to be again. Assuming the functionality of the software doesn't change, it is allowed in its current state.
CCP Grimmi wrote
Quote: Overlays which contain a full, unchanged, EVE Client instance in a view only mode, no matter how large or small they are scaled, like it is done by EVE-O Preview as of today, are fine with us. These overlays do not allow any direct interaction with the EVE Client and you have to bring the respective EVE Client to the front/put the window focus on it, in order to interact with it.
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Created by
StinkRay
Maintained by
- StinkRay
- Makari Aeron
- Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
With contributions from
CCP FoxFour
Original threads
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=389086 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246157
Original repository
https://bitbucket.org/ulph/eve-o-preview-git
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
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Posted - 2016.06.15 17:50:30 -
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Reserved for planned features list |
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
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Posted - 2016.06.15 17:51:16 -
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Reserved for 'What's new in 2.0' |
Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
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Posted - 2016.06.16 00:38:46 -
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Love you. Thanks to take over.
- will try it out and be back with feedback. |
Zero Sasen
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.16 02:57:15 -
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The only problem atm that I have with this program is that the overlay itself uses a lot of CPU. |
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
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Posted - 2016.06.16 07:23:55 -
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Zero Sasen wrote:The only problem atm that I have with this program is that the overlay itself uses a lot of CPU. This one or the previous one? 2.0 shoul use CPU more sparingly. Also now there is an option that allows to adjust the thumbnail list refresh rate (the most CPU-eating action actually): ThumbnailRefreshPeriod entry in the config file. By default it is set to 500 which means that processes list is scanned each 500 milliseconds (or 0.5 second).
Right now I am running 2 clients and EVE-O with CPU consumption 12% and 4% for EVE clients and 0% for EVE-O
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Raphendyr Nardieu
Unpublished Chapter Suddenly Content
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Posted - 2016.06.16 08:38:07 -
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Dunno know about windows ui sutff, but could we remove the preview windows from windows 10 task switcher (alt+tab). Though, I haven't yet tested this version. Gonna do that in 10h or so. |
Spcius Patrouette
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2016.06.16 09:56:16 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Zero Sasen wrote:The only problem atm that I have with this program is that the overlay itself uses a lot of CPU. This one or the previous one? 2.0 shoul use CPU more sparingly. Also now there is an option that allows to adjust the thumbnail list refresh rate (the most CPU-eating action actually): ThumbnailRefreshPeriod entry in the config file. By default it is set to 500 which means that processes list is scanned each 500 milliseconds (or 0.5 second). Right now I am running 2 clients and EVE-O with CPU consumption 12% and 4% for EVE clients and 0% for EVE-O You had me at more sparingly.
Will happily field test the new version for you. |
kooppari
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2016.06.16 11:40:05 -
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Works fine for me.
Thanks for the update! |
bugsmagooma
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2016.06.16 13:52:30 -
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Thanks for picking this up! Use this all the time and looking forward to it not crashing now. |
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Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
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Posted - 2016.06.18 17:55:42 -
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The new version seems buggy for me:
1. Every time I close and restart the application, it changes the thumbmail size. Example: I set it to 320x210 which is the size I want. Then I close and restart the client and it changes the setting to 304x171. I close it and when I start it again, it sets itself to 288x132.
2. I can't enter numbers into the size fields. I have to use up and down arrows to increase and decrease by 10.
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
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Posted - 2016.06.18 18:18:21 -
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Grookshank wrote:The new version seems buggy for me:
1. Every time I close and restart the application, it changes the thumbmail size. Example: I set it to 320x210 which is the size I want. Then I close and restart the client and it changes the setting to 304x171. I close it and when I start it again, it sets itself to 288x132.
2. I can't enter numbers into the size fields. I have to use up and down arrows to increase and decrease by 10.
1. That's interesting. Could you drop me a mail with your config file? It is the EVE-O Preview.json file next to the .exe. It is just a plain text file and should pass vie eve mail. Before sending it please edit out your alt's names from the config file That would greatly help me to pin it down and fix.
2. Will look at it (probably tomorrow). I would say that you can edit the config file directly to set the size you want, but given (1) it won't help anyway. |
Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
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Posted - 2016.06.18 18:20:39 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Grookshank wrote:The new version seems buggy for me:
1. Every time I close and restart the application, it changes the thumbmail size. Example: I set it to 320x210 which is the size I want. Then I close and restart the client and it changes the setting to 304x171. I close it and when I start it again, it sets itself to 288x132.
2. I can't enter numbers into the size fields. I have to use up and down arrows to increase and decrease by 10.
1. That's interesting. Could you drop me a mail with your config file? It is the EVE-O Preview.json file next to the .exe. It is just a plain text file and should pass vie eve mail. Before sending it please edit out your alt's names from the config file That would greatly help me to pin it down and fix. 2. Will look at it (probably tomorrow). I would say that you can edit the config file directly to set the size you want, but given (1) it won't help anyway.
Sent it. Thanks for looking into it. |
Tyrehl
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2016.06.19 16:54:36 -
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I have a major issue with the tool and im not sure where the problem lies. Very often whenever I start a new client or the tool (while 2 clients are running), the client im starting or sometimes even both clients would freeze, kind of. I cannot switch back to the client in question at all. The thumbnail is frozen, completely white or showing only a portion of the screen, while the rest is white. The whole window (I play in fixed window) doesnt appear at all, but seems to accept commands.
I didnt find a similar issue on Github and im not sure what might be causing it. Any ideas? This puts my ships in great risk as I have to close the client, sometimes in combat. Effectively makes the use of the tool impossible for me :(
Regards! |
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
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Posted - 2016.06.19 20:09:12 -
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Tyrehl wrote:I have a major issue with the tool and im not sure where the problem lies. Very often whenever I start a new client or the tool (while 2 clients are running), the client im starting or sometimes even both clients would freeze, kind of. I cannot switch back to the client in question at all. The thumbnail is frozen, completely white or showing only a portion of the screen, while the rest is white. The whole window (I play in fixed window) doesnt appear at all, but seems to accept commands.
I didnt find a similar issue on Github and im not sure what might be causing it. Any ideas? This puts my ships in great risk as I have to close the client, sometimes in combat. Effectively makes the use of the tool impossible for me :(
Regards! Hello
Do you use 2.0.0 or one of earlier versions? If you use 2.0 then could you do the following when this happens: Next to the .exe file there is a configuration .JSON file. Please send it to me vie eve-mail. To protect your privacy please vefore sending replace the name(s) of your alt(s) in the message with something like 'EVE - Alt 1' 'EVE - Alt 2' etc
Also please send me the Windows version you use
TIA
PS That said, there is a possible cause. When you minimize add EVE windows via hotkey and then jump to it via Alt-TAB its thumbnail sometimes becomes broken. Still atm I am not sure what could cause the rest, as EVE-O Preview doesn't interact with EVE clients at all (except for one thing written by CCP FoxFour) |
Alyx Finley
Online Trade Association
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Posted - 2016.06.20 10:39:53 -
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Maximum size I can get for the previews are 640x400. Is this correct? Would be great if this can be adjusted higher so that I can fill my screen with 6 clients. At the moment there are lots of open spaces , or am I doing something wrong. Thanks. |
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
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Posted - 2016.06.20 10:56:29 -
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Alyx Finley wrote:Maximum size I can get for the previews are 640x400. Is this correct? Would be great if this can be adjusted higher so that I can fill my screen with 6 clients. At the moment there are lots of open spaces , or am I doing something wrong. Thanks. Hello
This will work in the next version to be released today.
It can be adjusted as you see fit. Close the program and open its configuration file EVE-O Preview.json with any text editor. There are lines like
> "ThumbnailMaximumSize": "640, 400", > "ThumbnailMinimumSize": "100, 80",
Set the max size and start the EVE-O Preview. |
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
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Posted - 2016.06.20 11:46:35 -
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Verson 2.0.1 is available
What's new and fixed:
- Borderless thumbnails had incorrect size settings
- It was not possible to set Max and Min thumbnail sizes via config file
- It was not possible to enter thumbnail width or height in the corresponding edit boxes
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Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
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Posted - 2016.06.20 17:24:58 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Verson 2.0.1 is available What's new and fixed:
- Borderless thumbnails had incorrect size settings
- It was not possible to set Max and Min thumbnail sizes via config file
- It was not possible to enter thumbnail width or height in the corresponding edit boxes
Fixed my issues from yesterday, thanks. |
Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
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Posted - 2016.06.21 01:08:40 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Verson 2.0.1 is available What's new and fixed:
- Borderless thumbnails had incorrect size settings
- It was not possible to set Max and Min thumbnail sizes via config file
- It was not possible to enter thumbnail width or height in the corresponding edit boxes
Gracias gracias
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Anduin Spartan
The Soul Society DeepSpace.
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Posted - 2016.06.23 17:38:22 -
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-Preview windows disappear for some of my clients -I can't go below 100 x 80 -I have to place all my preview windows in place every time I use.
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
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Posted - 2016.06.23 19:21:29 -
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Anduin Spartan wrote:-Preview windows disappear for some of my clients
What you mean by 'disappear'?
Anduin Spartan wrote:-I can't go below 100 x 80
Read 3 or 4 posts up a recipe for maximum thumbnail size. There is a similar setting for minimum thumbnail size as well. It is configurable via the .JSON file
Anduin Spartan wrote:-I have to place all my preview windows in place every time I use.
Before or after you log chars on these EVE clients? Wjen EVE client sits on the char selection screen there is NO way to tell its account name, so default preview position is used. This will be the case until (if) some kind of preview windows docking will be implemented |
Anduin Spartan
The Soul Society DeepSpace.
8
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Posted - 2016.06.24 00:07:37 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Anduin Spartan wrote:-Preview windows disappear for some of my clients
What you mean by 'disappear'? Like vanish from the screen and now it's doing a cool rearrange all my previews all over the place after I place them. Anduin Spartan wrote:-I can't go below 100 x 80
Read 3 or 4 posts up a recipe for maximum thumbnail size. There is a similar setting for minimum thumbnail size as well. It is configurable via the .JSON file Anduin Spartan wrote:-I have to place all my preview windows in place every time I use.
Before or after you log chars on these EVE clients? Wjen EVE client sits on the char selection screen there is NO way to tell its account name, so default preview position is used. This will be the case until (if) some kind of preview windows docking will be implemented
This would be after I'm logged in.
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
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Posted - 2016.06.24 06:50:34 -
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Anduin Spartan wrote:After I log in, I open your programs. I can't get my previews set up because lol they either vanish from the screen or will auto rearrange across two of my screens. Could you do the following?
Quote:When you encounter a bug or a crash please do the following, as this will greatly help me to pin down and fix the possible bug:
Next to the .exe file there is a configuration .JSON file. Please send it to me via EVE in-game mail. To protect your privacy please replace the name(s) of your alt(s) in the message with something like 'EVE - Alt 1' , 'EVE - Alt 2', etc before actually sending it out to me. |
Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
92
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Posted - 2016.06.28 06:48:58 -
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Latest version still occasionally shrinks the preview size without reason. I have sent you the config (on another character). |
Rotineque Severasse
Zedd.
10
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Posted - 2016.06.30 10:02:26 -
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So if I minimise Window 1, Window 2 is behind it and now active. When I use EVE-O to switch back to Window 1 - Window 1 is now moved.
http://puu.sh/pLgsB/2921a52a86.jpg - window 1. http://puu.sh/pLgtW/485bbfecb5.jpg - window 2 active with window 1 minimised. http://puu.sh/pLgvx/3bf32e427a.jpg - window 1 is now not fully maximized is now slightly onto my second monitor.
This was reproducible on previous eve-o |
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
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Posted - 2016.06.30 12:48:51 -
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Grookshank wrote:Latest version still occasionally shrinks the preview size without reason. I have sent you the config (on another character). Thanks
Could you somehow pay attention on what exactly you do when this happens?
Rotineque Severasse wrote: So if I minimise Window 1, Window 2 is behind it and now active. When I use EVE-O to switch back to Window 1 - Window 1 is now moved..
Yoy play EVE in windowed mode, am I right? |
Rotineque Severasse
Zedd.
10
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Posted - 2016.07.01 09:22:03 -
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Quote: Yoy play EVE in windowed mode, am I right?
Yes I do. |
Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
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Posted - 2016.07.01 14:23:25 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Grookshank wrote:Latest version still occasionally shrinks the preview size without reason. I have sent you the config (on another character). Thanks Could you somehow pay attention on what exactly you do when this happens? Start the laucnher and eve-o-preview; start clients; size is shrunk from 320x180 to 314x151.
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Destiny567 Vyvorant
Endgegner. Kids With Guns Alliance
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Posted - 2016.07.02 07:02:30 -
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if i login with more than one account at the same time using the "Remember this account" option of the launcher my preview windows stack, and its not possible so seperate them. so i have to login one client after the other to make eve-o-preview work. is this multi client login not supported (yet) or am i doing something wrong?
p.s.: thx for taking over the project.
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