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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
1
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Posted - 2016.06.15 17:50:08 -
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Welcome to the EVE-O Preview thread. StinkRay, the original creator of EVE-O Preview, plays EVE in phases. Makari Aeron, the previous lead developer of the project, did temporarily leave EVE. So I'll be taking over the forum thread. The original threads can be found here and here.
Created to aid playing with multiple clients in CCP game EVE-Online.
It's essentially a task switcher, it does not relay any keyboard/mouse events and suchlike. The program works with EVE, EVE through Steam, or any combination thereof.
The program does NOT (and will NOT ever) do the following things:
- modify EVE Online interface
- display modified EVE Online interface
- broadcast any keyboard or mouse events
- anyhow interact with EVE Online except of bringing its main window to foreground or resizing it
System Requirements
- Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8/8.1, Windows 10
- Windows Aero Enabled
- Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5+ (it is already included in Windows 8+. For older systems the installer can be downloaded here)
How To Install & Use
Download page Direct download (version 2.0.0)
Code Repository
- Download and extract the contents of the .zip archive to a location of your choice (ie: Desktop, CCP folder, etc). Please do not install the program into the Program Files or Program files (x86) folders. These folders in general do not allow applications to write anything there while EVE-O Preview now stores its configuration file next to its executable, thus requiring the write access to the folder it is installed into.
- Start up both EVE-O Preview and your EVE Clients (the order does not matter)
- Adjust settings as you see fit. Program options are described here
***
This program is legal under the EULA/ToS:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Quote: Please keep the discussion on topic. The legitimacy of this software has already been discussed and doesn't need to be again. Assuming the functionality of the software doesn't change, it is allowed in its current state.
CCP Grimmi wrote
Quote: Overlays which contain a full, unchanged, EVE Client instance in a view only mode, no matter how large or small they are scaled, like it is done by EVE-O Preview as of today, are fine with us. These overlays do not allow any direct interaction with the EVE Client and you have to bring the respective EVE Client to the front/put the window focus on it, in order to interact with it.
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Created by
StinkRay
Maintained by
- StinkRay
- Makari Aeron
- Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
With contributions from
CCP FoxFour
Original threads
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=389086
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246157
Original repository
https://bitbucket.org/ulph/eve-o-preview-git
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
1
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Posted - 2016.06.15 17:50:30 -
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Reserved for planned features list |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
1
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Posted - 2016.06.15 17:51:16 -
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Reserved for 'What's new in 2.0' |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
4
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Posted - 2016.06.16 00:38:46 -
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Love you. Thanks to take over.
- will try it out and be back with feedback. |

Zero Sasen
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
0
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Posted - 2016.06.16 02:57:15 -
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The only problem atm that I have with this program is that the overlay itself uses a lot of CPU. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
2
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Posted - 2016.06.16 07:23:55 -
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Zero Sasen wrote:The only problem atm that I have with this program is that the overlay itself uses a lot of CPU. This one or the previous one? 2.0 shoul use CPU more sparingly. Also now there is an option that allows to adjust the thumbnail list refresh rate (the most CPU-eating action actually): ThumbnailRefreshPeriod entry in the config file. By default it is set to 500 which means that processes list is scanned each 500 milliseconds (or 0.5 second).
Right now I am running 2 clients and EVE-O with CPU consumption 12% and 4% for EVE clients and 0% for EVE-O
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Raphendyr Nardieu
Unpublished Chapter Suddenly Content
80
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Posted - 2016.06.16 08:38:07 -
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Dunno know about windows ui sutff, but could we remove the preview windows from windows 10 task switcher (alt+tab). Though, I haven't yet tested this version. Gonna do that in 10h or so. |

Spcius Patrouette
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
14
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Posted - 2016.06.16 09:56:16 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Zero Sasen wrote:The only problem atm that I have with this program is that the overlay itself uses a lot of CPU. This one or the previous one? 2.0 shoul use CPU more sparingly. Also now there is an option that allows to adjust the thumbnail list refresh rate (the most CPU-eating action actually): ThumbnailRefreshPeriod entry in the config file. By default it is set to 500 which means that processes list is scanned each 500 milliseconds (or 0.5 second). Right now I am running 2 clients and EVE-O with CPU consumption 12% and 4% for EVE clients and 0% for EVE-O You had me at more sparingly.
Will happily field test the new version for you. |

kooppari
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2016.06.16 11:40:05 -
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Works fine for me.
Thanks for the update! |

bugsmagooma
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
0
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Posted - 2016.06.16 13:52:30 -
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Thanks for picking this up! Use this all the time and looking forward to it not crashing now. |
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Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
91
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Posted - 2016.06.18 17:55:42 -
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The new version seems buggy for me:
1. Every time I close and restart the application, it changes the thumbmail size. Example: I set it to 320x210 which is the size I want. Then I close and restart the client and it changes the setting to 304x171. I close it and when I start it again, it sets itself to 288x132.
2. I can't enter numbers into the size fields. I have to use up and down arrows to increase and decrease by 10.
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
4
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Posted - 2016.06.18 18:18:21 -
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Grookshank wrote:The new version seems buggy for me:
1. Every time I close and restart the application, it changes the thumbmail size. Example: I set it to 320x210 which is the size I want. Then I close and restart the client and it changes the setting to 304x171. I close it and when I start it again, it sets itself to 288x132.
2. I can't enter numbers into the size fields. I have to use up and down arrows to increase and decrease by 10.
1. That's interesting. Could you drop me a mail with your config file? It is the EVE-O Preview.json file next to the .exe. It is just a plain text file and should pass vie eve mail. Before sending it please edit out your alt's names from the config file  That would greatly help me to pin it down and fix.
2. Will look at it (probably tomorrow). I would say that you can edit the config file directly to set the size you want, but given (1) it won't help anyway. |

Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
91
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Posted - 2016.06.18 18:20:39 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Grookshank wrote:The new version seems buggy for me:
1. Every time I close and restart the application, it changes the thumbmail size. Example: I set it to 320x210 which is the size I want. Then I close and restart the client and it changes the setting to 304x171. I close it and when I start it again, it sets itself to 288x132.
2. I can't enter numbers into the size fields. I have to use up and down arrows to increase and decrease by 10.
1. That's interesting. Could you drop me a mail with your config file? It is the EVE-O Preview.json file next to the .exe. It is just a plain text file and should pass vie eve mail. Before sending it please edit out your alt's names from the config file  That would greatly help me to pin it down and fix. 2. Will look at it (probably tomorrow). I would say that you can edit the config file directly to set the size you want, but given (1) it won't help anyway.
Sent it. Thanks for looking into it. |

Tyrehl
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
9
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Posted - 2016.06.19 16:54:36 -
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I have a major issue with the tool and im not sure where the problem lies. Very often whenever I start a new client or the tool (while 2 clients are running), the client im starting or sometimes even both clients would freeze, kind of. I cannot switch back to the client in question at all. The thumbnail is frozen, completely white or showing only a portion of the screen, while the rest is white. The whole window (I play in fixed window) doesnt appear at all, but seems to accept commands.
I didnt find a similar issue on Github and im not sure what might be causing it. Any ideas? This puts my ships in great risk as I have to close the client, sometimes in combat. Effectively makes the use of the tool impossible for me :(
Regards! |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
5
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Posted - 2016.06.19 20:09:12 -
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Tyrehl wrote:I have a major issue with the tool and im not sure where the problem lies. Very often whenever I start a new client or the tool (while 2 clients are running), the client im starting or sometimes even both clients would freeze, kind of. I cannot switch back to the client in question at all. The thumbnail is frozen, completely white or showing only a portion of the screen, while the rest is white. The whole window (I play in fixed window) doesnt appear at all, but seems to accept commands.
I didnt find a similar issue on Github and im not sure what might be causing it. Any ideas? This puts my ships in great risk as I have to close the client, sometimes in combat. Effectively makes the use of the tool impossible for me :(
Regards! Hello
Do you use 2.0.0 or one of earlier versions? If you use 2.0 then could you do the following when this happens: Next to the .exe file there is a configuration .JSON file. Please send it to me vie eve-mail. To protect your privacy please vefore sending replace the name(s) of your alt(s) in the message with something like 'EVE - Alt 1' 'EVE - Alt 2' etc
Also please send me the Windows version you use
TIA
PS That said, there is a possible cause. When you minimize add EVE windows via hotkey and then jump to it via Alt-TAB its thumbnail sometimes becomes broken. Still atm I am not sure what could cause the rest, as EVE-O Preview doesn't interact with EVE clients at all (except for one thing written by CCP FoxFour) |

Alyx Finley
Online Trade Association
1
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Posted - 2016.06.20 10:39:53 -
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Maximum size I can get for the previews are 640x400. Is this correct? Would be great if this can be adjusted higher so that I can fill my screen with 6 clients. At the moment there are lots of open spaces , or am I doing something wrong. Thanks. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
5
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Posted - 2016.06.20 10:56:29 -
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Alyx Finley wrote:Maximum size I can get for the previews are 640x400. Is this correct? Would be great if this can be adjusted higher so that I can fill my screen with 6 clients. At the moment there are lots of open spaces , or am I doing something wrong. Thanks. Hello
This will work in the next version to be released today.
It can be adjusted as you see fit. Close the program and open its configuration file EVE-O Preview.json with any text editor. There are lines like
> "ThumbnailMaximumSize": "640, 400", > "ThumbnailMinimumSize": "100, 80",
Set the max size and start the EVE-O Preview. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
5
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Posted - 2016.06.20 11:46:35 -
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Verson 2.0.1 is available
What's new and fixed:
- Borderless thumbnails had incorrect size settings
- It was not possible to set Max and Min thumbnail sizes via config file
- It was not possible to enter thumbnail width or height in the corresponding edit boxes
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Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
91
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Posted - 2016.06.20 17:24:58 -
[19] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Verson 2.0.1 is available What's new and fixed:
- Borderless thumbnails had incorrect size settings
- It was not possible to set Max and Min thumbnail sizes via config file
- It was not possible to enter thumbnail width or height in the corresponding edit boxes
Fixed my issues from yesterday, thanks. |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
4
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Posted - 2016.06.21 01:08:40 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Verson 2.0.1 is available What's new and fixed:
- Borderless thumbnails had incorrect size settings
- It was not possible to set Max and Min thumbnail sizes via config file
- It was not possible to enter thumbnail width or height in the corresponding edit boxes
Gracias gracias
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Anduin Spartan
The Soul Society DeepSpace.
8
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Posted - 2016.06.23 17:38:22 -
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-Preview windows disappear for some of my clients -I can't go below 100 x 80 -I have to place all my preview windows in place every time I use.
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
6
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Posted - 2016.06.23 19:21:29 -
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Anduin Spartan wrote:-Preview windows disappear for some of my clients
What you mean by 'disappear'?
Anduin Spartan wrote:-I can't go below 100 x 80
Read 3 or 4 posts up a recipe for maximum thumbnail size. There is a similar setting for minimum thumbnail size as well. It is configurable via the .JSON file
Anduin Spartan wrote:-I have to place all my preview windows in place every time I use.
Before or after you log chars on these EVE clients? Wjen EVE client sits on the char selection screen there is NO way to tell its account name, so default preview position is used. This will be the case until (if) some kind of preview windows docking will be implemented |

Anduin Spartan
The Soul Society DeepSpace.
8
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Posted - 2016.06.24 00:07:37 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Anduin Spartan wrote:-Preview windows disappear for some of my clients
What you mean by 'disappear'? Like vanish from the screen and now it's doing a cool rearrange all my previews all over the place after I place them. Anduin Spartan wrote:-I can't go below 100 x 80
Read 3 or 4 posts up a recipe for maximum thumbnail size. There is a similar setting for minimum thumbnail size as well. It is configurable via the .JSON file Anduin Spartan wrote:-I have to place all my preview windows in place every time I use.
Before or after you log chars on these EVE clients? Wjen EVE client sits on the char selection screen there is NO way to tell its account name, so default preview position is used. This will be the case until (if) some kind of preview windows docking will be implemented
This would be after I'm logged in.
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
6
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Posted - 2016.06.24 06:50:34 -
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Anduin Spartan wrote:After I log in, I open your programs. I can't get my previews set up because lol they either vanish from the screen or will auto rearrange across two of my screens. Could you do the following?
Quote:When you encounter a bug or a crash please do the following, as this will greatly help me to pin down and fix the possible bug:
Next to the .exe file there is a configuration .JSON file. Please send it to me via EVE in-game mail. To protect your privacy please replace the name(s) of your alt(s) in the message with something like 'EVE - Alt 1' , 'EVE - Alt 2', etc before actually sending it out to me. |

Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
92
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Posted - 2016.06.28 06:48:58 -
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Latest version still occasionally shrinks the preview size without reason. I have sent you the config (on another character). |

Rotineque Severasse
Zedd.
10
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Posted - 2016.06.30 10:02:26 -
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So if I minimise Window 1, Window 2 is behind it and now active. When I use EVE-O to switch back to Window 1 - Window 1 is now moved.
http://puu.sh/pLgsB/2921a52a86.jpg - window 1. http://puu.sh/pLgtW/485bbfecb5.jpg - window 2 active with window 1 minimised. http://puu.sh/pLgvx/3bf32e427a.jpg - window 1 is now not fully maximized is now slightly onto my second monitor.
This was reproducible on previous eve-o |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
6
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Posted - 2016.06.30 12:48:51 -
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Grookshank wrote:Latest version still occasionally shrinks the preview size without reason. I have sent you the config (on another character). Thanks
Could you somehow pay attention on what exactly you do when this happens?
Rotineque Severasse wrote: So if I minimise Window 1, Window 2 is behind it and now active. When I use EVE-O to switch back to Window 1 - Window 1 is now moved..
Yoy play EVE in windowed mode, am I right? |

Rotineque Severasse
Zedd.
10
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Posted - 2016.07.01 09:22:03 -
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Quote: Yoy play EVE in windowed mode, am I right?
Yes I do. |

Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
114
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Posted - 2016.07.01 14:23:25 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Grookshank wrote:Latest version still occasionally shrinks the preview size without reason. I have sent you the config (on another character). Thanks Could you somehow pay attention on what exactly you do when this happens? Start the laucnher and eve-o-preview; start clients; size is shrunk from 320x180 to 314x151.
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Destiny567 Vyvorant
Endgegner. Kids With Guns Alliance
0
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Posted - 2016.07.02 07:02:30 -
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if i login with more than one account at the same time using the "Remember this account" option of the launcher my preview windows stack, and its not possible so seperate them. so i have to login one client after the other to make eve-o-preview work. is this multi client login not supported (yet) or am i doing something wrong?
p.s.: thx for taking over the project.
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
6
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Posted - 2016.07.02 10:52:50 -
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Destiny567 Vyvorant wrote:if i login with more than one account at the same time using the "Remember this account" option of the launcher my preview windows stack, and its not possible so seperate them. so i have to login one client after the other to make eve-o-preview work. is this multi client login not supported (yet) or am i doing something wrong?
p.s.: thx for taking over the project.
If you mean that previews are stacked AFTER you started the clients but BEFORE you actually login chars in these clients - then this is completely expected (at least atm). All EVE clients at this moment have the same client title and it is not possible to distinguish them. I am thinking about some auto-arrangement for previews? but there's no such feature right now.
After you login chars previews should go to their places. If I misunderstood you then could you make a screenshot of this? |

Destiny567 Vyvorant
Endgegner. Kids With Guns Alliance
0
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Posted - 2016.07.02 16:41:58 -
[32] - Quote
ah ok i see it. once i'm fully logged in there is no problem with the previews any more. awesome, so i actually can use multi login and eve-o-preview :) |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
4
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Posted - 2016.07.02 21:21:14 -
[33] - Quote
So far good for me. Thanks man. |

Nadjadria
Peanuts Invidia Gloriae Comes
0
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Posted - 2016.07.04 09:26:57 -
[34] - Quote
hi thx for the new version
need some help to configure "ClientHotkey": {} in the old version from the svn i got it running |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
7
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Posted - 2016.07.06 11:40:14 -
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Nadjadria wrote:hi thx for the new version
need some help to configure "ClientHotkey": {} in the old version from the svn i got it running
Wait a week or so, I'll try to create a GUI for this |

Lord Diablos Spamtar
Scumbag Logistics INC PTY LTD Tactical Supremacy
0
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Posted - 2016.07.14 14:01:48 -
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greetings first up thanks for keeping up the program its been a life saver any now down to the issues every once in a while tho more frequently after having all my accounts logged in and ready then starting up this program ( eve-o) the positions of some of the clients are not remembered, they change to a default location, eve-o prev - thats what it should be
causing me to have to re arange them again and again each time to get them into the right place ive even taken to saving a back up of the correct location of all the windows but it dosent seem to like it when i manually override the json file in this manner, it seems to work fine for the next few tries of the app, but then once i reboot again it then resets
using 2.0.1 (note i have tried using 2.0 - same issues) windows 10, if anything else is needed please just ask
ill reboot one more time now to see if i can get it to reproduce the buggered up configs and link that as well |

Ruby Lennelluc
Nova Haven
0
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Posted - 2016.07.24 08:38:49 -
[37] - Quote
Glad to see this continued, thanks to OP for continuing the project.
Was just wondering if it's possible to resize previews independently? (I believe the option was "Synchronise Resizing" in the old version. I have monitors of different aspect ratios, and this means some previews have white bars to accommodate. |

CowRocket Void
Angelus.Mortis Fidelas Constans
27
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Posted - 2016.07.25 01:06:32 -
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Ruby Lennelluc wrote:Glad to see this continued, thanks to OP for continuing the project.
Was just wondering if it's possible to resize previews independently? (I believe the option was "Synchronise Resizing" in the old version. I have monitors of different aspect ratios, and this means some previews have white bars to accommodate.
It does look like this option is gone and looking at the .json file there is just one line "ThumbnailSize": "650, 350"
bleeding shadow darkness > did i just saw a red procurer? :P
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
7
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Posted - 2016.07.25 15:53:18 -
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Ruby Lennelluc wrote:Glad to see this continued, thanks to OP for continuing the project.
Was just wondering if it's possible to resize previews independently? (I believe the option was "Synchronise Resizing" in the old version. I have monitors of different aspect ratios, and this means some previews have white bars to accommodate.
Sorry, it is not available atm.
Still it is technically possible to save positions AND sizes of each preview independently. I'll log an issue re this. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
7
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Posted - 2016.07.25 15:55:25 -
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Lord Diablos Spamtar wrote:greetings first up thanks for keeping up the program its been a life saver any now down to the issues // Skipped then using a text editor ... ( notepad ++ ) i manually edit the x,y pos of the windows and sometimes that dosent even work
Sorry, somehow I missed the thread notification and was too busy with some RL stuff...
What is your monitor configuration? Mean, thumbnail positions are NEGATIVE - this could cause most of the issues.
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Lord Diablos Spamtar
Scumbag Logistics INC PTY LTD Tactical Supremacy
0
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Posted - 2016.07.26 00:29:14 -
[41] - Quote
3 screens screen 3 screen 1 screen 2 screen 1 is the main screen screen 3 is the location of thumbnails which is why the neg numbers cause thumbnails are based off screen 1 positions... i roughly positioned them then edited the json file to get it exactly pos
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LLIOKEP
Flood of Kappa Pride
1
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Posted - 2016.08.09 05:24:40 -
[42] - Quote
this program is legal now? |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
4
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Posted - 2016.08.09 05:26:31 -
[43] - Quote
LLIOKEP wrote:this program is legal now?
Yep yes yep
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
7
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Posted - 2016.08.09 08:50:31 -
[44] - Quote
LLIOKEP wrote:this program is legal now? It doesn't (and won't ever) do anything that violates EULA. No broadcasting, no passthru clicks, no EVE UI modification. It's more like an Alt-TAB on steroids.
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Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
4
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Posted - 2016.08.09 23:22:10 -
[45] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:LLIOKEP wrote:this program is legal now? It doesn't (and won't ever) do anything that violates EULA. No broadcasting, no passthru clicks, no EVE UI modification. It's more like an Alt-TAB on steroids.
I need time but one of CCP guys explicitly mention that this app is God's work and it allow becuase it don't modify the client this is no cutting or broadcasting. Also isboxer is allowed but you should not cut or use the broadcast option of it.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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Nadarob Skillane
Bridge not Jump Short Bus Syndicate
7
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Posted - 2016.08.12 12:18:25 -
[46] - Quote
Having issues with the latest version on windows 10. (version 2.0.1)
1. The Overlay is not persistent. When it is on, it disappears from each thumbnail the first time I select it, and never comes back. 2. The resizing of thumbnails only works in increments of 10 pixels. That means, if I do not want a white border on one of the edges, I can only choose 160 x 90 size for the thumbnails. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
7
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Posted - 2016.08.12 12:30:15 -
[47] - Quote
Nadarob Skillane wrote:Having issues with the latest version on windows 10. (version 2.0.1)
1. The Overlay is not persistent. When it is on, it disappears from each thumbnail the first time I select it, and never comes back. 2. The resizing of thumbnails only works in increments of 10 pixels. That means, if I do not want a white border on one of the edges, I can only choose 160 x 90 size for the thumbnails.
(2) will be gixed in the upcoming update (1) - I need to reproduce it to fix. so
Quote: When you encounter a bug or a crash please do the following, as this will greatly help me to pin down and fix the possible bug:
Next to the .exe file there is a configuration .JSON file. Please send it to me via EVE in-game mail. To protect your privacy please replace the name(s) of your alt(s) in the message with something like 'EVE - Alt 1' , 'EVE - Alt 2', etc before actually sending it out to me.
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Nadarob Skillane
Bridge not Jump Short Bus Syndicate
7
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Posted - 2016.08.12 23:11:13 -
[48] - Quote
will send the json tomorrow. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
7
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:46:50 -
[49] - Quote
Verson 2.1.0 is available
What's new and fixed:
- Borderless thumbnails can be moved and resized using mouse
- Optional highlight of active client's thumbnail
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Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
4
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Posted - 2016.08.20 21:17:24 -
[50] - Quote
how to make the highlight smaller like the colors to make it barely noticeable? instead or like 2 be like 0.5 wide.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
8
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Posted - 2016.08.20 23:55:15 -
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Astrid Farnsworth wrote:how to make the highlight smaller like the colors to make it barely noticeable? instead or like 2 be like 0.5 wide. I'll expose this as an option. Stay tuned for 2.1.1 soon(tm) |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
4
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Posted - 2016.08.21 01:51:54 -
[52] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Astrid Farnsworth wrote:how to make the highlight smaller like the colors to make it barely noticeable? instead or like 2 be like 0.5 wide. I'll expose this as an option. Stay tuned for 2.1.1 soon(tm)
No pressure when you have time.
this thing arase but thanks so much for such a updates.
Am just missing the one that display the thumbnail in line like horizontal or vertical and if you have a lot sed 10+ it divide it as a by column. and of course you can active it or just do it manual.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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Ox Fast
The Projects Official Winners Of Takeshi's Castle
39
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Posted - 2016.08.21 11:24:41 -
[53] - Quote
I've got quite a strange problem, when I launch eve-o i dont actually get a program on my taskbar.
Everything runs fine, but at the moment i have to go through task manager to manually shut down the program if I need to. Also unable to edit my screens now as when I launch it the program itself isn't visible (halp!) |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
8
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Posted - 2016.08.21 15:22:36 -
[54] - Quote
Ox Fast wrote:I've got quite a strange problem, when I launch eve-o i dont actually get a program on my taskbar.
Everything runs fine, but at the moment i have to go through task manager to manually shut down the program if I need to. Also unable to edit my screens now as when I launch it the program itself isn't visible (halp!)
edit: its fine! I deleted the .json file and restarted it. Had to do the layout but otherwise it is fine
Probably you accidentaly enabled the 1st option (Minimize to system tray)
If it is enabled then the program starts minimized and not visible in Alt-TAB or Taskbar. There is an icon in the Windows Taskbar - it provides a context menu or one can just dbl-click it to show the main program window |

Space CamGirl
Mech Tech Engineering Solutions
0
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Posted - 2016.09.03 08:16:06 -
[55] - Quote
Hi, I have a similar problem to what someone stated earlier:
I load Eve-O and my 4 windows pop up. Lovely. But after a few clicks of switching around, Eve-O loses some previews. Sometimes its 1, 2 or all of them. I can close Eve-O and relaunch to get it working again, but for how long? Seconds, minutes? So to restate the problemm, I lose my preview windows when switching between clients using Eve-O. It seems to work reliably for many people, so any ideas would be appreciated. Would love this to work, best Eve application I've ever found. o7 |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
4
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Posted - 2016.09.03 16:02:06 -
[56] - Quote
Space CamGirl wrote:Hi, I have a similar problem to what someone stated earlier:
I load Eve-O and my 4 windows pop up. Lovely. But after a few clicks of switching around, Eve-O loses some previews. Sometimes its 1, 2 or all of them. I can close Eve-O and relaunch to get it working again, but for how long? Seconds, minutes? So to restate the problemm, I lose my preview windows when switching between clients using Eve-O. It seems to work reliably for many people, so any ideas would be appreciated. Would love this to work, best Eve application I've ever found. o7
Might be It dont have to do with your problema but will try subjestion that for every cliente you need to arange at least one the posici+Šn Of the Windows.
Sed. You arange cliente 1 and set cliente 2 cliente 3 cliente 4 in difrent places. Them you need to click on Cliente 2 and arange cliente 1 cliente 2 cliente 4 where you want It. Becuase ones you click on Cliente 4 you will need to arange everything again. One you do this when you lounch the cliente the sellect Window will appear always the samething place ones you sellect the car+ícter if you lucb him before and set him where you wanted the app remember settings by car+ícter name.
Sometime the clients aren't set up in all caracters the same way and they don't disappears they just stack one over the other right click it and drag them and you will see that under it all the other windows will be. Windows aka previews.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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Space CamGirl
Mech Tech Engineering Solutions
0
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Posted - 2016.09.03 17:01:17 -
[57] - Quote
I will individually try resetting the layout for each active account and follow up. Cheers. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
8
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Posted - 2016.09.03 17:52:24 -
[58] - Quote
Yep. Actuallyafter he switched the previews were still displayed. Issue is that they were displayed BEHIND the EVE window (i.e. they weren't visible). I'll try to somewhat update the docs page for this option, to make sure ppl know about this side effect. |

Par'Gellen
285
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Posted - 2016.09.12 22:52:22 -
[59] - Quote
This is EXACTLY what I needed! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
The only issues I had was the windows weren't large enough to lay out 4 clients in a grid on my second monitor. But I quickly fixed that in the config file along with tweaking the exact placements. The only bug I have found is when I start up the clients I have to open the Preview UI and click the up arrow on the size to make the windows fill in correctly. After that all is well until I restart the program. This is minor though and not a real issue compared to how useful this is.
Again thank you thank you thank you!
"To err is human", but it shouldn't be the company motto...
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
8
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Posted - 2016.09.13 12:55:03 -
[60] - Quote
Par'Gellen wrote: The only issues I had was the windows weren't large enough to lay out 4 clients in a grid on my second monitor. But I quickly fixed that in the config file along with tweaking the exact placements. The only bug I have found is when I start up the clients I have to open the Preview UI and click the up arrow on the size (either one doesn't matter) to make the windows fill in correctly. After that all is well until I restart the program.
You mean you had to tweka the MaxSize limitation? I guess I need to liften it up to a quarter of FullHD size.
Re that isse: Do you mean that previews are stretched into a upper-left corner of each window? This can happen when one minimizes clients (via Win+D or other key combination) and then restores client window back. This looks like a DWI (that's the Windows subsystem used to create these windows) bug. Workaround is just to click on each preview window to bring its EVE client up. This will recreate the thumbnail picture and will resolve the issue. |
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Par'Gellen
285
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Posted - 2016.09.14 12:47:35 -
[61] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote: You mean you had to tweka the MaxSize limitation? I guess I need to liften it up to a quarter of FullHD size.
Re that isse: Do you mean that previews are stretched into a upper-left corner of each window? This can happen when one minimizes clients (via Win+D or other key combination) and then restores client window back. This looks like a DWI (that's the Windows subsystem used to create these windows) bug. Workaround is just to click on each preview window to bring its EVE client up. This will recreate the thumbnail picture and will resolve the issue.
I'm not sure what you mean. I can make a vid of it later today when I get home form work and show you what's happening. It's like the preview windows aren't starting up in the correct size. Clicking the up arrow on either Thumbnail width or height fixes it instantly.
"To err is human", but it shouldn't be the company motto...
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Par'Gellen
285
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Posted - 2016.09.14 13:48:13 -
[62] - Quote
Actually here is a screenshot that explains what is happening when it starts up, along with my preview settings. It almost looks like it is trying to compensate for the taskbar when the thumbnails are created. Clicking the up arrow on either of the size adjustments instantly fixes it. Let me know if this makes sense.
http://imgur.com/BcRShQ4
"To err is human", but it shouldn't be the company motto...
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Luca Dragnov
Wormbro The Society For Unethical Treatment Of Sleepers
0
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Posted - 2016.09.23 10:18:33 -
[63] - Quote
Ahoy!
This little software looks awesome, though how do I configure the hotkey to swap windows? Not a fan of having to click each of them.
Thanks! |

Soltys
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
152
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Posted - 2016.09.25 16:38:19 -
[64] - Quote
Question: is it possible to disable zoom sync ? Like in older (1.18.3) version, where each thumbnail had its own size.
Jita Flipping Inc.: Solmp / Kovl
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Ox Fast
Hax. The-Culture
39
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Posted - 2016.09.27 14:33:31 -
[65] - Quote
Luca Dragnov wrote:Ahoy!
This little software looks awesome, though how do I configure the hotkey to swap windows? Not a fan of having to click each of them.
Thanks!
Been wondering about this too! Saw on the front page that you can configure a hotkey or click. Clicking is getting old now :p |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
8
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Posted - 2016.09.29 14:10:36 -
[66] - Quote
Hello all 
Status update: I plan to roll out a minor release soon (will do my best to do it this weekend actually). Bugfixes + some minor features
Ox Fast wrote:Been wondering about this too! Saw on the front page that you can configure a hotkey or click. Clicking is getting old now :p Edit - got this to work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJmorUbYXQU but instead of Winactivate you need to use WinActivateBottom EOP can do this too + it will actually show you what's going on on different account (or not if you'll decide to hide the preview window). I'll update the doc page, prolly today. Notification + text itself will be posted in this thread.
Soltys wrote: Question: is it possible to disable zoom sync ? Like in older (1.18.3) version, where each thumbnail had its own size.
These sizes weren't saved anyway. If you'll describe why do you need this I'll add this feature to the releases plan (yes, I have one)
Par'Gellen wrote: Actually here is a screenshot that explains what is happening when it starts up, along with my preview settings. It almost looks like it is trying to compensate for the taskbar when the thumbnails are created. Clicking the up arrow on either of the size adjustments instantly fixes it. Let me know if this makes sense.
Thanks. This looks like a bug and I'll investigate it deeper.
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Ox Fast
Hax. The-Culture
39
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Posted - 2016.09.29 18:52:20 -
[67] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Hello all  Status update: I plan to roll out a minor release soon (will do my best to do it this weekend actually). Bugfixes + some minor features Ox Fast wrote:Been wondering about this too! Saw on the front page that you can configure a hotkey or click. Clicking is getting old now :p Edit - got this to work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJmorUbYXQU but instead of Winactivate you need to use WinActivateBottom EOP can do this too + it will actually show you what's going on on different account (or not if you'll decide to hide the preview window). I'll update the doc page, prolly today. Notification + text itself will be posted in this thread.
I did see the documents linked in the git page thing, but I have no idea how to do it. Would need a step by step on how to get it to run or a GUI to make it easy for me. Big thanks for your all work however! |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
9
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Posted - 2016.09.29 23:14:05 -
[68] - Quote
Ox Fast wrote:
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I did see the documents linked in the git page thing, but I have no idea how to do it. Would need a step by step on how to get it to run or a GUI to make it easy for me. Big thanks for your all work however!
This will happen together with release. There is a slim possibility thet enabling the hotkey could crash the app. While it is unlikely, I am pretty sure this will happen for someone. A fix is required before I'll describe how to do this. |

Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
125
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Posted - 2016.10.02 09:13:36 -
[69] - Quote
Idk if that is in the scope of this software, but I would really like to be able to do the following:
I run eve clients in fixed window. That means when I switch between them, they are all up on the screen, just one at the top. That seems to cause them all to be redered fully, using up GPU ressources. I would be fantastic if switching to one would minimize the others, so they are not fully rendered. I can simulate that by minimizing all clients and then manually maximizing one again. I can then see 1 client, all others in eve-o-preview windows, with only the one on top beeing fully rendered. This uses up way less ressources. Once I switch to another client with eve-o-prewiew though, the one I had maximised before stays maximised in the background.
So I would like to have a feature that: a) switches eve clients like now b) at the same time minimizes the other clients, so only the one client and the previews of the other clients need to be rendered.
Should be possible, no? |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
6
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Posted - 2016.10.02 23:44:14 -
[70] - Quote
Well IMO
This option would be like the disable station animation. Every time you birng that other clien up will be like stressing you pc by intervals. Might be will be problematic, would be good if its implemented it be an option not a most.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
10
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Posted - 2016.10.03 11:25:27 -
[71] - Quote
Grookshank wrote:Idk if that is in the scope of this software, but I would really like to be able to do the following:
I run eve clients in fixed window. That means when I switch between them, they are all up on the screen, just one at the top. That seems to cause them all to be redered fully, using up GPU ressources. I would be fantastic if switching to one would minimize the others, so they are not fully rendered. I can simulate that by minimizing all clients and then manually maximizing one again. I can then see 1 client, all others in eve-o-preview windows, with only the one on top beeing fully rendered. This uses up way less ressources. Once I switch to another client with eve-o-prewiew though, the one I had maximised before stays maximised in the background.
So I would like to have a feature that: a) switches eve clients like now b) at the same time minimizes the other clients, so only the one client and the previews of the other clients need to be rendered.
Should be possible, no? Yes, with some ajustment - not all other client. It would be enough to send th Minimize command only to the window you're leaving. And for sure this will be an option, disabled by default.
Btw thanks for logging this on github |

Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
125
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Posted - 2016.10.03 16:06:02 -
[72] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Grookshank wrote:Idk if that is in the scope of this software, but I would really like to be able to do the following:
I run eve clients in fixed window. That means when I switch between them, they are all up on the screen, just one at the top. That seems to cause them all to be redered fully, using up GPU ressources. I would be fantastic if switching to one would minimize the others, so they are not fully rendered. I can simulate that by minimizing all clients and then manually maximizing one again. I can then see 1 client, all others in eve-o-preview windows, with only the one on top beeing fully rendered. This uses up way less ressources. Once I switch to another client with eve-o-prewiew though, the one I had maximised before stays maximised in the background.
So I would like to have a feature that: a) switches eve clients like now b) at the same time minimizes the other clients, so only the one client and the previews of the other clients need to be rendered.
Should be possible, no? Yes, with some ajustment - not all other client. It would be enough to send th Minimize command only to the window you're leaving. And for sure this will be an option, disabled by default. Btw thanks for logging this on github Thanks for considering it. |

bigbillthaboss3
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
106
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Posted - 2016.10.06 00:48:10 -
[73] - Quote
I think the new Windows update broke eve-o preview a little, launching from the launcher isn't working correctly. To elaborate, as each client loads they pop up in the same spot with a weird blurred vision and are unable to be interacted with.
I'm thinking it has something to do with firewall exceptions maybe?
My current work around: Launch all clients and then open EVE-O Preview. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
10
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Posted - 2016.10.06 18:56:54 -
[74] - Quote
bigbillthaboss3 wrote:I think the new Windows update broke eve-o preview a little, launching from the launcher isn't working correctly. To elaborate, as each client loads they pop up in the same spot with a weird blurred vision and are unable to be interacted with.
I'm thinking it has something to do with firewall exceptions maybe?
My current work around: Launch all clients and then open EVE-O Preview.
To start with, EOP doesn't send anything to/recieve anything from Internet, so it is not anuhow affected by firewall. After all, this little app has access to a very sensitive info (yep, for some ppl like spies, hotdroppers etc names of their alts is a VERY sensitive info)
The thing you see is caused by the fact that all EVE login windows have the same window title regardless of the account used. So EOP cannot guess(*) where to place the preview window and leawes them all on the default place.
You should be able to move them either by dragging them using the right mouse button.
The blur you see is most probably caused by one of the account windows being slightly different from others. F.e. only one of my account login windows has the notification line on the top saying 'XX days left'
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(*) Even if it is possible to find out the account info by somehow interacting with the EVE client process, I won't do that, for obvious reasons. |

bigbillthaboss3
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
106
|
Posted - 2016.10.06 23:21:45 -
[75] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote: Response.
I have been using EVE-O Preview for the better part of 3 months, all my mini-windows set up across the top, very nice and neat (I should probably give you a screenshot to post in your thread for multiboxing 14 dudes).
After the Windows update, it introduced new "security features". The reason I'm hypothesizing about the firewall is because I'm receiving a pop up message "the 'x' program was blocked as it was requesting to use your graphics card". Maybe firewall is the wrong focus but is more the new Windows Defender settings. I am having trouble figuring out exactly where to click so that I can allow my multiboxing neckbearding to continue.
Additionally, I have never experienced the blurred screen in the miniature window. They have always been accurate mini-captures of each client. Since the most recent Windows Update, it causes all the launched clients to begin in the same spot with blurred views. It also completely removes the ability to click on said mini-windows and open client. Alt-tabbing to the clients are broken as well.
I'm going to try reinstalling EVE-O Preview, like I probably should have done at first.
My current work around is to launch all clients, then open EVE-O Preview and it works fine with the exception of typically one client crashing.
tl;dr - I'm bad or Window Update probably broke something with video cards and prevents EVE-O Preview from running normally.
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
10
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Posted - 2016.10.07 08:28:14 -
[76] - Quote
Quote: Since the most recent Windows Update, it causes all the launched clients to begin in the same spot with blurred views. It also completely removes the ability to click on said mini-windows and open client. Alt-tabbing to the clients are broken as well.
Well, the last major Win10 update killed my system and I had to entirely reinstall everything (a fun thing to do when installing some stuff takes a rally long time and the deadline is just a several days ahead).
Still disabled Alt+TAB should be something not related to EOP.
Quote: tl;dr - I'm bad or Window Update probably broke something with video cards and prevents EVE-O Preview from running normally.
Try to reinstall the GPU drivers. Reinstalling EOP won't help as it is a self-contained .exe file that doesn't write anything anywhere excpept for its config file. Except of reinstalling you might try to just remove the configuration file and restart the app.
EDIT: Not sure but this might be caused by a lack of video card's memory. Launching that much clients already stresses it hard enough and when EOP comes and tells Windows 'Hey, I want to mirror these windows' it might cause some issues with the drivers and the wideo manager (thus the blur). You can easily check this by setting all graphic settings to lowest and restarting all clients. |

bigbillthaboss3
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
106
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Posted - 2016.10.08 10:32:01 -
[77] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Quote: Since the most recent Windows Update, it causes all the launched clients to begin in the same spot with blurred views. It also completely removes the ability to click on said mini-windows and open client. Alt-tabbing to the clients are broken as well.
Well, the last major Win10 update killed my system and I had to entirely reinstall everything (a fun thing to do when installing some stuff takes a rally long time and the deadline is just a several days ahead). Still disabled Alt+TAB should be something not related to EOP. Quote: tl;dr - I'm bad or Window Update probably broke something with video cards and prevents EVE-O Preview from running normally.
Try to reinstall the GPU drivers. Reinstalling EOP won't help as it is a self-contained .exe file that doesn't write anything anywhere excpept for its config file. Except of reinstalling you might try to just remove the configuration file and restart the app. EDIT: Not sure but this might be caused by a lack of video card's memory. Launching that much clients already stresses it hard enough and when EOP comes and tells Windows 'Hey, I want to mirror these windows' it might cause some issues with the drivers and the wideo manager (thus the blur). You can easily check this by setting all graphic settings to lowest and restarting all clients.
UPDATE: Got it working again, no issues - even ran full load of 14 clients at once. I added the notes of immediate results yay/nay b/c I'm not sure if all these things collectively did something or just did / did not do anything individually.
I'm not exactly sure what allowed it to work, but here is a list of things I did: 1. Reinstall Nvidia Drivers / try numerous settings of driver - Didn't see immediate results 2. Tweaked Paging Files in Advanced Settings - Didn't see immediate results 3. Uninstalled latest Windows 10 update / reverted back to previous build (which still had the new update since Windows decided to kill all my restore points) - Didn't see immediate results. 4. Went into Windows firewall and added both the EVE Launcher & EVE-O Preview to acceptions. - This got rid of the "blocked an application trying to use the graphics card" notification so that's good. Ultimately unsure of immediate results. 5. Literally took my PC apart and rebuilt it (it was due for a cleaning anyway so I figured why not) - Unsure of results. 6. Restarted PC after all previous attempts, ran EVE and EVE-O. I changed the in-game display settings to "Interval One". IT WORKS! *Note: I had previously tried the interval one thing to no success.
Steps 4, 5, & 6 I performed all together as one mission so I didn't really individually test for results.
Here's what it looks like now and should have always looked like (feel free to use this image as an example if you want):
http://i.imgur.com/AKbrqXm.jpg
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Kodiak31415
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.10.12 21:52:28 -
[78] - Quote
I recently had the same problem as BBTB3. Every time I would launch EOP with my 6 clients up 2 previews would become blurry and non functional, one would become non functional at normal resolution, and the remaining 3 worked normally. I could not alt-tab into any of the "broken" clients.
When I would click on, or alt tab into, any of the broken clients they would become the active client and accept keyboard commands but wouldn't display on screen. Pressing escape twice to open and close the options menu of a broken client seems to solve the issue. |

Cam Garaki
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.10.17 01:01:29 -
[79] - Quote
I love this but noticed low fps and a lot of jank when I use it now with 6 clients.
My setup is 3x4K monitors running at 3840x2160. If I leave them running the main active one I see around 50-60FPS and the other two monitors at 30FPS. When I launch EOP I see the FPS drop to about 30FPS on the active one and around 17FPS on the other two.
Not sure if there's a setting or something I can do to tune this so it doesn't cause the FPS to drop so much. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
10
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Posted - 2016.10.18 18:12:17 -
[80] - Quote
Cam Garaki wrote:I love this but noticed low fps and a lot of jank when I use it now with 6 clients.
My setup is 3x4K monitors running at 3840x2160. If I leave them running the main active one I see around 50-60FPS and the other two monitors at 30FPS. When I launch EOP I see the FPS drop to about 30FPS on the active one and around 17FPS on the other two.
Not sure if there's a setting or something I can do to tune this so it doesn't cause the FPS to drop so much.
Try to update GPU drivers and/or lower some graphic settings |
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
10
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Posted - 2016.10.18 18:14:48 -
[81] - Quote
Just a quick head-up:
If you want to know what the hell this guy is doing ;-) then take a look at this link:
https://github.com/Phrynohyas/eve-o-preview/projects/1
here you'll see 4 columns with things planned to do, thing currently in work, stuff ready for the next release and things that are postponed. |

Cam Garaki
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.10.20 02:42:52 -
[82] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Cam Garaki wrote:I love this but noticed low fps and a lot of jank when I use it now with 6 clients.
My setup is 3x4K monitors running at 3840x2160. If I leave them running the main active one I see around 50-60FPS and the other two monitors at 30FPS. When I launch EOP I see the FPS drop to about 30FPS on the active one and around 17FPS on the other two.
Not sure if there's a setting or something I can do to tune this so it doesn't cause the FPS to drop so much. Try to update GPU drivers and/or lower some graphic settings
Thanks for the reply.
I tried it, reduced all settings to lowest and updated all drivers. No luck.
I tried isboxer and I can run all clients at 60fps without any issues. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
10
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Posted - 2016.10.20 12:44:31 -
[83] - Quote
Cam Garaki wrote:
Thanks for the reply.
I tried it, reduced all settings to lowest and updated all drivers. No luck.
I tried isboxer and I can run all clients at 60fps without any issues.
Could you make a screenshot of 'a lot of jank' and drop it to the in-game mail, along with the Windows varsion and GPU you use?
I think ISBoxer uses different technology to manage preview windows so that's the difference |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
12
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Posted - 2016.10.25 19:26:57 -
[84] - Quote
Version 2.2.0 is available.
What's new and fixed:
- Hotkeys support (see readme.pdf for details)
- Adjustable active thumbnail borders thickness
- Multiple configuration files support
- Single-instance check
- Documentation improvements
- Other minor bugfixes
See full 2.2.0 release info for list of issues included into this release |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
7
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Posted - 2016.10.26 23:38:05 -
[85] - Quote
Thanks like a lot what you are doing @Phrynohyas Tig-Rah good gooooog goooooood app.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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thebarry
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
17
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Posted - 2016.11.09 21:28:33 -
[86] - Quote
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate the excellent work you have done with this app, it really has become better than isboxer imo. The only requests I could make is allowing larger preview windows(the default max size is imo too small for 2560x1440 and especially 4k, this can be changed in the json but not everyone will be interested in diving into those settings immediately) and a customizable background color for when the preview window creates a border bar inside the preview window, eg if I could change it to black it would match my desktop background and then blend in even with the wonky resolutions I use. FWIW those are quite nitpicky requests which really shows just how well you have done 
Again, thanks so much!
PS. If you have two or more clients that you never use at the same time and want them to occupy the same preview window spot, you can apply the same hotkey to all of them and it works as you would hope: whichever window is open comes to foreground and there are no errors etc from the others not existing at that time. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
14
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Posted - 2016.11.13 18:06:25 -
[87] - Quote
Thanks for your kind words 
thebarry wrote:The only requests I could make is allowing larger preview windows(the default max size is imo too small for 2560x1440 and especially 4k, this can be changed in the json but not everyone will be interested in diving into those settings immediately) Initially I set the restrictions to be like 640 x 400 px to make sure no one tries to make the preview windows as large as their screen (not sure how this would it the performance). Luckily ;-) HighDPI monitors are still rare these days. However I'll uplift the default restrictions to somewhat like 1280 x 800 so they will be still usable by default on HighDPI but won't hurt that much performance of good old FullHD.
Also may I ask you: does the main (and only) EOP opions dialog scale properly on HighDPI screen?
thebarry wrote:a customizable background color for when the preview window creates a border bar inside the preview window, eg if I could change it to black it would match my desktop background and then blend in even with the wonky resolutions I use.
Could you describe this more detailed (preferably with a picture)?
thebarry wrote: PS. If you have two or more clients that you never use at the same time you can apply the same hotkey to all of them and it works as you would hope: whichever window is open comes to foreground and there are no errors etc from the others not existing at that time.
It is even possible to have both these clients with the same hotkey running at the same time. Still the hotkey will be applied to one and only one of them, ie it won't be possible to cycle between the clients. Also the key pressed won't be passed to the EVE client. |

thebarry
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
17
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Posted - 2016.11.14 13:25:59 -
[88] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Thanks for your kind words  thebarry wrote:The only requests I could make is allowing larger preview windows(the default max size is imo too small for 2560x1440 and especially 4k, this can be changed in the json but not everyone will be interested in diving into those settings immediately) Initially I set the restrictions to be like 640 x 400 px to make sure no one tries to make the preview windows as large as their screen (not sure how this would it the performance). Luckily ;-) HighDPI monitors are still rare these days. However I'll uplift the default restrictions to somewhat like 1280 x 800 so they will be still usable by default on HighDPI but won't hurt that much performance of good old FullHD. Also may I ask you: does the main (and only) EOP opions dialog scale properly on HighDPI screen?
Thank you! Yes it looks fine to me.
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote: Could you describe this more detailed (preferably with a picture)?
http://i.imgur.com/fsnoMoB.png
The bottom of the preview window has a white bar, which is a result of the weird resolutions I am using, in this case I have a 2560x1440 screen separated into a 3x3 grid for up to 9 previews on that screen...2560x1440 / 3 = 853.3(repeating decimal)x480 :/
I wouldn't waste much time if any on changing this if I were you, I was able to remove it by typing in a custom resolution of 853x480 for the preview window size. |

Miss Entrepreneur
Commercia Consortio
0
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Posted - 2016.11.24 07:34:15 -
[89] - Quote
Great tool, but I'd like to have hardcap of preview size (640 x 400 px) removed. :) |

Rythen Risalo
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
3
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Posted - 2016.11.28 03:23:52 -
[90] - Quote
I have an issue where when I launch certain clients they don't open up at the right resolution (even though the correct resolution is set in game) and this means I can't interact with them properly either. It's the actual window itself that has issues, not the preview windows.
Screenshot: http://puu.sh/swOtA/92a2c86ce4.jpg
And here's my configs set: http://puu.sh/swOuQ/05dbb54846.png
This only happens with one of my clients and it's the same one every time... They are all using the same settings profile while I'm testing so I don't know how this could happen.
EDIT: Wanted to add that the client that's ******* up only opens with the ****** up resolution when EVE-O Preview is running. |
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Kaleesh
Your Loss Mercenary Coalition
8
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Posted - 2016.11.29 11:42:08 -
[91] - Quote
Rythen Risalo wrote:I have an issue where when I launch certain clients they don't open up at the right resolution (even though the correct resolution is set in game) and this means I can't interact with them properly either. It's the actual window itself that has issues, not the preview windows. Screenshot: http://puu.sh/swOtA/92a2c86ce4.jpg
And here's my configs set: http://puu.sh/swOuQ/05dbb54846.png
This only happens with one of my clients and it's the same one every time... They are all using the same settings profile while I'm testing so I don't know how this could happen. EDIT: Wanted to add that the client that's ******* up only opens with the ****** up resolution when EVE-O Preview is running.
No clue why this error arrives but i can tell you how to fix:
Open in the directory where you have EvE-O the file "Preview.json" with a program like Notepad++, in this file you have the definitions of window position and size (ClientLayout) and all the other crap, but you will see then the client who is opening in the wrong size and **** up then is not correct, so change the sizes for this one to the normal value like:
"ClientLayout": { "EVE - Char 1": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 1920, "Height": 1080 }, "EVE - Char 2": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 1920, "Height": 1080 }, "EVE - Char 3": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 1920, "Height": 1080 }, }
Should fix your issue. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
14
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Posted - 2016.11.29 16:24:31 -
[92] - Quote
Rythen Risalo wrote:I have an issue where when I launch certain clients they don't open up at the right resolution (even though the correct resolution is set in game) and this means I can't interact with them properly either. It's the actual window itself that has issues, not the preview windows.
<< SKIPPED >>
EDIT: Wanted to add that the client that's ******* up only opens with the ****** up resolution when EVE-O Preview is running.
Could you please drop me the configuration file for EOP (the .json file next to the .exe file)? Also could you try to uncheck the 'Track client locations' option to see if it makes any difference?
Thanks in advance |

Titus Otto Khan
Elanus Corporation
0
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Posted - 2016.12.22 00:05:10 -
[93] - Quote
Thanks for this first off!
Super simple to use.
I run it from my Desktop and have noticed something (maybe I missed a setting)
Currently only running 2 eve clients (both in full screen windowless border). Randomly on the 2nd account I started the preview goes away, it doesn't come back until I alt tab back to 1st client, then it works. Eventually it does disappear again, I don't know if its caused by me alt tabbing out to my 2nd monitor or not.
UPDATE:
I noticed the small preview window went away when I click back into game from my browser on my 2nd monitor. Comes back as usual if I alt tab to my main account again |

Scarlett LaBlanc
Midnight Savran Industries
181
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Posted - 2016.12.22 02:07:59 -
[94] - Quote
Just wanted to drop a note to say THANK YOU, to you and the others who have put together this tool and work to support it.
Your efforts have improved my enjoyment of Eve and I appreciate your contribution to the community. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
15
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Posted - 2016.12.22 08:43:27 -
[95] - Quote
Titus Otto Khan wrote:
Currently only running 2 eve clients (both in full screen windowless border). Randomly on the 2nd account I started the preview goes away, it doesn't come back until I alt tab back to 1st client, then it works. Eventually it does disappear again, I don't know if its caused by me alt tabbing out to my 2nd monitor or not.
Hello
Just in case - do you have the 'Previews always on top' option enabled? If not this might cause the similar looking behavior when previews fail behind other windows and aren't vsible. |

Titus Otto Khan
Elanus Corporation
0
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Posted - 2016.12.22 15:11:23 -
[96] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Titus Otto Khan wrote:
Currently only running 2 eve clients (both in full screen windowless border). Randomly on the 2nd account I started the preview goes away, it doesn't come back until I alt tab back to 1st client, then it works. Eventually it does disappear again, I don't know if its caused by me alt tabbing out to my 2nd monitor or not.
Hello Just in case - do you have the 'Previews always on top' option enabled? If not this might cause the similar looking behavior when previews fail behind other windows and aren't vsible.
I do, however I think the issue just happens when the small preview window is over the game client. When I put it off to the side on my 2nd monitor it works just fine. So I'm happy doing that
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Embla Svanhildur
Viper-Squad Happy Cartel
1
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Posted - 2016.12.26 19:21:36 -
[97] - Quote
I started using it on my laptop. Works well ! thank you for sharing  |

StinkRay
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED
393
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Posted - 2017.01.06 23:56:50 -
[98] - Quote
(waves)
Cool to see this stuff is still alive.
So, which one is the "main" repo these days? I pushed Makari around abit until we settled on using the one on github : ulph/eve-o-preview
EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher
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Faylee Freir
The Phoenix Rising Vendetta Mercenary Group
367
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Posted - 2017.01.07 01:21:18 -
[99] - Quote
I'm having an issue getting the keybinds to work. I followed the example in the readme, but I'm not sure if I've set it up correctly.
}, "ClientHotkey": { "EVE - Character One": "1", "EVE - Character Two": "2", "EVE - Character Three": "3", "EVE - Character Four": "4", "EVE - Character Five": "5", "EVE - Character Six": "6" }
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
HTFU
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
15
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Posted - 2017.01.07 15:38:45 -
[100] - Quote
StinkRay wrote:(waves)
Cool to see this stuff is still alive.
So, which one is the "main" repo these days? I pushed Makari around abit until we settled on using the one on github : ulph/eve-o-preview
It's alive and evolving. There's a couple of major features to be published in Q1 2017 (once I settle up some RL stuff/issues)
Repo is https://github.com/Phrynohyas/eve-o-preview |
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
15
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Posted - 2017.01.07 15:53:42 -
[101] - Quote
Faylee Freir wrote:I'm having an issue getting the keybinds to work. I followed the example in the readme, but I'm not sure if I've set it up correctly. }, "ClientHotkey": { "EVE - Character One": "1", "EVE - Character Two": "2", "EVE - Character Three": "3", "EVE - Character Four": "4", "EVE - Character Five": "5", "EVE - Character Six": "6" } Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I would stronly recomment to avoid setting hotkeys to alphanumeric keys w/o modifiers. Otherwise these hotkeys will conflict with chat windows ets.
IOW you cannot do
"EVE - Character One": "1",
but you can do (just double-checked that it works ;-) )
"EVE - Character One": "Alt+1",
"EVE - Character One": "Control+1",
"EVE - Character One": "Shift+1",
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Faylee Freir
The Phoenix Rising Vendetta Mercenary Group
367
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Posted - 2017.01.08 11:55:35 -
[102] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:I'm having an issue getting the keybinds to work. I followed the example in the readme, but I'm not sure if I've set it up correctly. }, "ClientHotkey": { "EVE - Character One": "1", "EVE - Character Two": "2", "EVE - Character Three": "3", "EVE - Character Four": "4", "EVE - Character Five": "5", "EVE - Character Six": "6" } Any help would be greatly appreciated! I would stronly recomment to avoid setting hotkeys to alphanumeric keys w/o modifiers. Otherwise these hotkeys will conflict with chat windows ets. IOW you cannot do "EVE - Character One": "1",
but you can do (just double-checked that it works ;-) ) "EVE - Character One": "Alt+1",
"EVE - Character One": "Control+1",
"EVE - Character One": "Shift+1",
Ok I will try that. Is the formatting for that alright, or did I mess something up?
HTFU
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
15
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Posted - 2017.01.08 14:54:04 -
[103] - Quote
Yes, the formatting itself was OK |

William Hazard
Literally The Worst Community
10
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Posted - 2017.01.19 14:49:22 -
[104] - Quote
Hello,
I'm using it occasionnaly but I have a weird issue with your tool.
It works pretty well all the time BUT with one of mine account.
When Eve-o preview is launched before Eve, the game starts and works as expected until the character seletion screen. With 2 toons it'll continue working properly but with the third one the game will change its definition to something very small (like 150*80 pxl) and relocate the window out of my screen.
The issue always happens with the same account and only with this character, not the other two. Thats really weird.
If i stop eve-o preview, launch eve, select this toon, then launch eve-o preview again, it'll be ok and work. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
15
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Posted - 2017.01.19 18:28:48 -
[105] - Quote
Hello
That's weird. Could you send me your config file (see the starting post to find out how to do this)? If I'll manage to reproduce tihs locally I'll be able to fix it.
Thanks in advance |

Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society Jump Drive Appreciation Alliance
127
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Posted - 2017.01.21 09:33:30 -
[106] - Quote
William Hazard wrote:Hello,
I'm using it occasionnaly but I have a weird issue with your tool.
It works pretty well all the time BUT with one of mine account.
When Eve-o preview is launched before Eve, the game starts and works as expected until the character seletion screen. With 2 toons it'll continue working properly but with the third one the game will change its definition to something very small (like 150*80 pxl) and relocate the window out of my screen.
The issue always happens with the same account and only with this character, not the other two. Thats really weird.
If i stop eve-o preview, launch eve, select this toon, then launch eve-o preview again, it'll be ok and work. I have this too. You can fix it by setting max and min window sizes to the size you want the preview; e.g.:
"ThumbnailSize": "320, 180", "ThumbnailMaximumSize": "320, 180", "ThumbnailMinimumSize": "320, 180", |

William Hazard
Literally The Worst Community
10
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Posted - 2017.01.22 19:17:40 -
[107] - Quote
Yeah after both or your message I looked at the conf file and the issue was here, crazy value were there. I fixed it and it fixed the issue.
Ty !
I still wonder how these value became written there. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
16
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Posted - 2017.02.04 10:57:53 -
[108] - Quote
Bragging time! EVE-O Preview 2.2.0 total downloads count jumped over 1k this week.
I started a new active development phase. A lot of new features are plaaned and there's a very cool conribution from Ligraph waiting to be merged into the tool.
Share your stories how EVE-O Preview helps you in your everyday EVE life (via eve-mail). The most entertaining ones will be added to the 'Testimonials' section of documentaion (with or without your nicknames - I'll ask you to approve the text before publishing it)
PS ISK donations are highly welcome. I soo want these new Garmur/Orthus and Serpentis SKINs  |

R-0-B-0-C-O-P
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2017.02.16 00:16:47 -
[109] - Quote
Howdy!
Awesome program, just trying to figure out how to use it properly. I'm trying to get hotkeys setup, and I was wondering if there was anyway to bind more than one character to the same key.
Example:
I have 3 accounts "X, Y, & Z". I have two characters on account "X" so my config will look like this:
Quote: "ClientHotkey": { "EVE - R-0-B-0-C-O-P": "Shift+1", "EVE - Account Y Character": "Shift+2", "EVE - Account Z Character": "Shift+3" }
Is there anyway to add a second character with the keybing "Shift+1" in the event I'm on another character on that account and not actually on R-0-B-0-C-O-P?
Thanks a ton! |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
19
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Posted - 2017.02.17 14:54:28 -
[110] - Quote
Quote: Is there anyway to add a second character with the keybing "Shift+1" in the event I'm on another character on that account and not actually on R-0-B-0-C-O-P?
You can assign the same keybinding to several chars at once. Just bear in mind that if you'll login them all at once it won't be possible to predict which one of them will be the one that will be activated with this keybinding.
Such config will be entirely valid:
"ClientHotkey": { "EVE - R-0-B-0-C-O-P": "Shift+1", "EVE - Other Account X Character": "Shift+1", "EVE - Account Y Character": "Shift+2", "EVE - Account Z Character": "Shift+3" }
---
Some technical details re how it works: When a char is logged it EOP creates a preview window for it. Then it looks the hotkey bindings and if there is one it tries to assign this keyinding to the preview window (NOT to the actual EVE Online client. Sending keystrokes directly to EVE client would be.. not wise ).
When a player presses one of the keybinings and there is a preview window listening for this keybinding then EOP acts like one have clicked that preview window (ie activates the corresponding EVE client). Then that particular keypress is swallowed by EOP (so it won't be possible f.e. to press F1 and simultaneously switch to the DPS char and activate its guns).
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Moozh Vozmozhno
Operation WormBear Absence of Light
0
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Posted - 2017.03.07 20:48:21 -
[111] - Quote
Is there a way to permanently disable the thumbnails? |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
19
|
Posted - 2017.03.07 22:00:09 -
[112] - Quote
Moozh Vozmozhno wrote:Is there a way to permanently disable the thumbnails? You mean to disable the thumbnail view for one particular client? Unfortunately no, this setting i not persisted (yet) |

Stalex BigNoise
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
4
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Posted - 2017.03.22 21:15:01 -
[113] - Quote
Is any chance we can have preview windows bigger than 640x400? On my 40' screen (3840 x 2160) , thumbnails 640x400 is just barely visible :-( |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
19
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Posted - 2017.03.23 12:12:39 -
[114] - Quote
Hello
Stalex BigNoise wrote:Is any chance we can have preview windows bigger than 640x400? On my 40' screen (3840 x 2160) , thumbnails 640x400 is just barely visible :-(
Sure. Close EOP. Open the "EVE-O Preview.json" file with Notepad (it is located next to the .exe file) Then find there line
"ThumbnailMaximumSize": "640, 400",
This is the max size restriction. Change it to, say,
"ThumbnailMaximumSize": "1920, 1080",
and start EOP again.
Regards |

Stalex BigNoise
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
4
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Posted - 2017.03.24 07:59:14 -
[115] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Hello
and start EOP again.
Regards
Thanks m8, good jump supporting this project |

Elias Ristolainen
Brand Newbros Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2017.04.03 17:46:09 -
[116] - Quote
Okay so I don't know what happened but as of today it's broken for me. I've been using this program for about 2 months now with no issues and just today it doesn't work properly anymore. Basically when I launch EVE O Preview with my clients the thumbnails pop up but when I arrange them and then click on them they disappear and I have to reset the client to get them to come back up. I have no idea what causes it because it's inconsistent but generally interacting with the thumbnails causes them to vanish for me now making the app pretty much unusable.
Any idea how to fix this because this really is a useful program and would hate to have to abandon it. |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
19
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Posted - 2017.04.04 08:56:36 -
[117] - Quote
Elias Ristolainen wrote:
...
EDIT: Okay so it seems that for some reason the thumbnails now go behind the client windows once they are selected, so it works fine as long as I don't have them overlapping with any of my clients. Still it wasn't like this before and I have no idea how to fix it cause I'd rather not have to resize my client windows to make this work again.
EDIT 2: Okay so all of the sudden it's back to normal, I made it run as admin always just to be safe but it appears to be associated with having previews hide when EVE isn't active and frames not showing enabled. If I ever turn off frames is makes the previews go behind the client assuming I have Hide Previews when EVE isn't active enabled. Not sure if that helps but there ya go.
Hello
Do you run your EVE clients in windowed mode?
In need to repro this locally to investigate wth happens there (you're not the first one who reports this). Could you also send me your config file via EVE mail (just remove the part with your char's names)?
Well, in the worst case I'll just have to draw invisible frames around preview windows to help them stay on top, but I really need to find out first what happened (this could be some Win update, GPU drivers upate or glitch etc) |

Jeriod
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.04.04 19:55:15 -
[118] - Quote
Is it possible to create a setup like this with EVE-O? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRoTF06GWSk
I'd like to be able to control everything like this. Is this considered a violation? |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
19
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Posted - 2017.04.08 17:34:01 -
[119] - Quote
EVE-O is not needed for that. These are just EVE clients in window mode with properly arranged windows. Actually take a look at comments under this video - Crossing Zebras have a nice guide for this kind of ratting. |

Sir Deathal
Y.A.G
0
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Posted - 2017.04.08 21:56:25 -
[120] - Quote
NVM, UI fixed it !
Fly safe |
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Judy Mikakka
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
43
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Posted - 2017.04.11 20:23:08 -
[121] - Quote
I used eve preview ages ago before the update to the eula, is this program still legal - even with this http://i.imgur.com/w1OIqg6.png ? |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
10
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Posted - 2017.04.12 03:15:14 -
[122] - Quote
It's just a window switcher, you can not cut the overview to only see what you want.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
19
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Posted - 2017.04.12 11:32:01 -
[123] - Quote
EOP won't allow you to show only a part of the EVE client's screen, only a full unchanged picture. Also it won't allow you to say click on the preview window and have this click replicated in the corresponding EVE client.
EOP tries to stay as far away from any EULA breaking things as possible. |

Tom Richter
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2017.04.12 20:41:46 -
[124] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Moozh Vozmozhno wrote:Is there a way to permanently disable the thumbnails? You mean to disable the thumbnail view for one particular client? Unfortunately no, this setting i not persisted (yet)
As a work-around, we can use the settings file to place the thumbnail off-screen.
For example, say we have a 1920x1080 pixel monitor and want "hide" thumbnails during character select and for a certain character. Just open "EVE-O Preview.json" with a text editor and add/edit the following lines:
"FlatLayout": { "EVE": "1921, 1081", "EVE - Character Name": "1921, 1081" }
Now those thumbnails are just one pixel off the bottom right corner of the screen, never to be seen again! This is useful for avoiding that thumbnail spam stack when launching many clients at once, or to always hide every thumbnail if you only want automatic client positioning*.
Interestingly, the generic "EVE" thumbnail shown at character select can't be placed off the left side of the screen even though character specific thumbnails can. To keep it consistent and easy, I just place them all off the bottom right.
*As a bonus, here's what client positioning and sizing looks like in the config file. Maybe I misunderstand the program, but I can't get EVE-O Preview to generate this even with "track client locations" checked, so hopefully this helps someone else.
"ClientLayout": { "EVE": { "X": 448, "Y": 156, "Width": 1024, "Height": 768 }, "EVE - Character Name": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 1024, "Height": 768 } }
Assuming a 1920x1080 monitor and 1024x768 clients, this will place the logged in character at the top left while centering clients still on character select. When editing for your own use, make sure you update the Width and Height to match your client's resolution! |

Euterpe Echerie
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.04.26 13:42:18 -
[125] - Quote
Is it possible to FPS limit the minimized/windowed clients? that would be really great |

Samuel Sachs
11
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Posted - 2017.05.01 18:42:27 -
[126] - Quote
Hello,
sadly i have some trouble with eveo in the last days, i can not identify the problem or where it comes from, but let me describe, i use eveo long years, its an awesome tool und must have, i changed from v2.1 to v2.2 and now the json is forgetting all the time the settings, when i open and run my clients and start eveo then the program forces all client window sizes to a smaller window.
Im using window mode because i like to use the taskbar and this is not possible in fullscreen.
Any ideas?
Also the Thumbnail size i use (192:108) is not working, its always a different size.
Regards
SheetMon_V2 a gdocs spreadsheet what pulls lots of stuff, feel free to make a copy :-)
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
20
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Posted - 2017.05.01 18:54:06 -
[127] - Quote
Euterpe Echerie wrote:Is it possible to FPS limit the minimized/windowed clients? that would be really great This is out of scope of EVE-O. Also I'm not sure if this is legal ta all.
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
20
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Posted - 2017.05.01 18:57:45 -
[128] - Quote
Samuel Sachs wrote:Hello,
sadly i have some trouble with eveo in the last days, i can not identify the problem or where it comes from, but let me describe, i use eveo long years, its an awesome tool und must have, i changed from v2.1 to v2.2 and now the json is forgetting all the time the settings, when i open and run my clients and start eveo then the program forces all client window sizes to a smaller window.
Im using window mode because i like to use the taskbar and this is not possible in fullscreen.
Any ideas?
Also the Thumbnail size i use (192:108) is not working, its always a different size.
Regards
Hello.
Could you a) Take the very latst build from https://github.com/Phrynohyas/eve-o-preview/releases . The issue you have reminds me of a bug I've fixed in that build If that doesn't hel then please send me your config file via eve mail (pls don't forget to scramble the character names in that file)
Thanks in advance
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Samuel Sachs
11
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Posted - 2017.05.01 19:17:49 -
[129] - Quote
Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Samuel Sachs wrote:Hello,
sadly i have some trouble with eveo in the last days, i can not identify the problem or where it comes from, but let me describe, i use eveo long years, its an awesome tool und must have, i changed from v2.1 to v2.2 and now the json is forgetting all the time the settings, when i open and run my clients and start eveo then the program forces all client window sizes to a smaller window.
Im using window mode because i like to use the taskbar and this is not possible in fullscreen.
Any ideas?
Also the Thumbnail size i use (192:108) is not working, its always a different size.
Regards Hello. Could you a) Take the very latst build from https://github.com/Phrynohyas/eve-o-preview/releases . The issue you have reminds me of a bug I've fixed in that build If that doesn't hel then please send me your config file via eve mail (pls don't forget to scramble the character names in that file) Thanks in advance
Hey,
im using the last release already.
I can edit the json self, or do you mean anything else, because this is all what i know what is existing for settings.
https://pastebin.com/BxvtjXks
The values for window sizes are wrong, they do not match when i change them and close eveo and open up again :(
Maybe you know there is a bug and can help, would be nice.
SheetMon_V2 a gdocs spreadsheet what pulls lots of stuff, feel free to make a copy :-)
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
20
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Posted - 2017.05.03 08:29:03 -
[130] - Quote
Samuel Sachs wrote:Hey, im using the last release already. I can edit the json self, or do you mean anything else, because this is all what i know what is existing for settings. https://pastebin.com/BxvtjXksThe values for window sizes are wrong, they do not match when i change them and close eveo and open up again :( Maybe you know there is a bug and can help, would be nice.
Could you take a creenshot of the area with preview window when it has correct size and after the restart, when it is crippled? (not the whole scrreen, jsut cute tha area around the preview window). I'll check what's wrong when I'll be at my dev workstation (ie next weekend)
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Samuel Sachs
11
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Posted - 2017.05.03 18:12:06 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Samuel Sachs wrote:Hey, im using the last release already. I can edit the json self, or do you mean anything else, because this is all what i know what is existing for settings. https://pastebin.com/BxvtjXksThe values for window sizes are wrong, they do not match when i change them and close eveo and open up again :( Maybe you know there is a bug and can help, would be nice. Could you take a creenshot of the area with preview window when it has correct size and after the restart, when it is crippled? (not the whole scrreen, jsut cute tha area around the preview window). I'll check what's wrong when I'll be at my dev workstation (ie next weekend)
http://i.imgur.com/PI8OTpV.jpg
Would be nice when you are able to identify the problem, one of my mates is telling me the same issue. Win10 btw.
SheetMon_V2 a gdocs spreadsheet what pulls lots of stuff, feel free to make a copy :-)
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DeeACE DBIR
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2017.05.12 06:45:36 -
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Hi guys,
Really love the concept of this. Can't seem to get it to work. I have encountered problem which i will link below. I don't know what i'm doing wrong any help would be great!
I set my client to fixed window mode, and as you can see i can't switch toons. Once i started eve preview up it resized the windows and showed part of my desktop.
http://i.imgur.com/Khb4Pva.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/seWlNCb.gifv
Thanks in Advance,
DeeACE |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
20
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Posted - 2017.05.12 08:12:32 -
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Hello
Could you drp me your config file via EVE-mail?
TIA |

DeeACE DBIR
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2017.05.12 09:15:22 -
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Hello
Could you drp me your config file via EVE-mail?
TIA
How do i do that?
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
20
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Posted - 2017.05.12 10:29:01 -
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Quote:
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When you encounter a bug or a crash please do the following, as this will greatly help me to pin down and fix the possible bug:
Next to the .exe file there is a configuration .JSON file. Please send it to me via EVE in-game mail. To protect your privacy please replace the name(s) of your alt(s) in the message with something like 'EVE - Alt 1' , 'EVE - Alt 2', etc before actually sending it out to me.
***
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Rubberdukk
Air Penguin
0
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Posted - 2017.05.15 17:34:50 -
[136] - Quote
Only issue I have with it - is that it doesn't work with my eve client - it only shows while I'm tabbed out. I tried to restart the client and this program and change the order and everything. What to do? |

Thai Mhalbarei
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2017.05.17 17:48:28 -
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Hello, I really like this software and I use it on daily basis but I'd like to know if it would be possible to create a configuration pannel, kinda like that : https://puu.sh/vT0VT/267efb878c.png so we don't have to configurate everything account per account |

Kas Sa
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.05.21 22:49:51 -
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Is there any way to setup a hotkey to move the current active window to another monitor?
I.e. Say I have two monitors, and some arbitrary designation for 5 different eve windows on where they should be (initially) located, either on Monitor 1 or Monitor 2. If eve window #4 was set to be on monitor 2, is there anyway to easily (while running the game) bring it to the foreground and switch which monitor is shows on?
Does that make sense? |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
21
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Posted - 2017.05.22 15:47:14 -
[139] - Quote
Kas Sa wrote:Is there any way to setup a hotkey to move the current active window to another monitor?
I.e. Say I have two monitors, and some arbitrary designation for 5 different eve windows on where they should be (initially) located, either on Monitor 1 or Monitor 2. If eve window #4 was set to be on monitor 2, is there anyway to easily (while running the game) bring it to the foreground and switch which monitor is shows on?
Does that make sense?
Shift + Win + arrow keys
Windows shortcut to move active windows across several monitors. Just double-checked - works for EVE too |

Kas Sa
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.05.23 02:41:35 -
[140] - Quote
Awesome, thanks! Didn't even realize it was something that could be done in windows! |
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Suyer
Broski North
19
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Posted - 2017.05.27 20:59:15 -
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Is there any way to force the thumbnails to never show up?
Right now my use case is just to use this program to hotkey my windows, and I'd rather not see the thumbnails popping up every so often. Checking the "Force hide" checkboxes accomplishes this, but these checkboxes reset every time I re-open the program.
EDIT: This appears to be a workaround for the time being:
Tom Richter wrote:Phrynohyas Tig-Rah wrote:Moozh Vozmozhno wrote:Is there a way to permanently disable the thumbnails? You mean to disable the thumbnail view for one particular client? Unfortunately no, this setting i not persisted (yet) As a work-around, we can use the settings file to place the thumbnail off-screen. For example, say we have a 1920x1080 pixel monitor and want "hide" thumbnails during character select and for a certain character. Just open "EVE-O Preview.json" with a text editor and add/edit the following lines: "FlatLayout": { "EVE": "1921, 1081", "EVE - Character Name": "1921, 1081" } Now those thumbnails are just one pixel off the bottom right corner of the screen, never to be seen again! This is useful for avoiding that thumbnail spam stack when launching many clients at once, or to always hide every thumbnail if you only want automatic client positioning*. Interestingly, the generic "EVE" thumbnail shown at character select can't be placed off the left side of the screen even though character specific thumbnails can. To keep it consistent and easy, I just place them all off the bottom right. *As a bonus, here's what client positioning and sizing looks like in the config file. Maybe I misunderstand the program, but I can't get EVE-O Preview to generate this even with "track client locations" checked, so hopefully this helps someone else. "ClientLayout": { "EVE": { "X": 448, "Y": 156, "Width": 1024, "Height": 768 }, "EVE - Character Name": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 1024, "Height": 768 } } Assuming a 1920x1080 monitor and 1024x768 clients, this will place the logged in character at the top left while centering clients still on character select. When editing for your own use, make sure you update the Width and Height to match your client's resolution! |

Earnest Emu
Row Row Fight the Power Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2017.06.03 23:57:36 -
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Great app has made my life way easier. Also if you play something like wot in borderless windows mode you can see your eve window tiles for those afk jewing moments.. or so a friend of a friend tells me anyway. I never afk anything ;-) |

Serg Sinist
Keeper's of the Experience
10
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Posted - 2017.06.07 14:43:59 -
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What ETA of new version? |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
10
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Posted - 2017.06.07 15:03:41 -
[144] - Quote
Serg Sinist wrote:What ETA of new version?
well that depends a lot on his time, because IRL, so far the app have good a necessary futures, i guess if you have idea recommend in the hub.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
21
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Posted - 2017.06.08 10:26:25 -
[145] - Quote
Serg Sinist wrote:What ETA of new version? Depends on how busy I am with my RL work, how much time I need to spend to care on my cats and so on.
So the answer is - "as soon as it is ready"
Still, a teaser pic: http://i.imgur.com/zWISNhn.png |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
23
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Posted - 2017.06.17 21:06:15 -
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Version 3.0.0 is available.
What's new and fixed:
- Updated GUI
- It is possible to minimize EVE client by Ctrl+clicking on its thumbnail
- Thumbnails for non-logged EVE clients are always created in the upper-left screen corner
- Application crash logs
See full 3.0.0 release info for list of issues included into this release |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
10
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Posted - 2017.06.17 21:14:21 -
[147] - Quote
Spacibo, gracias will try it later today.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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Guillejejeje XDD
What The FAX Really Strong Alliance
5
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Posted - 2017.06.18 12:50:35 -
[148] - Quote
there is anyway i can just select a region of each eve client (like select only the overview region) so i can fully see the overview and if i see something good just click there and move it to main window. If i see fullscreen using eve o preview i Cant see ships on overview |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
23
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Posted - 2017.06.18 13:47:03 -
[149] - Quote
Guillejejeje XDD wrote:there is anyway i can just select a region of each eve client (like select only the overview region) so i can fully see the overview and if i see something good just click there and move it to main window. If i see fullscreen using eve o preview i Cant see ships on overview
The thing you described breaks EULA and is a bannable offence.
Please read 3rd paragraph ot the first post in this thread. |

Guillejejeje XDD
What The FAX Really Strong Alliance
5
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Posted - 2017.06.18 15:35:07 -
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but im talking about just move it to main screen isnt it what eve o preview is about? |
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
23
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Posted - 2017.06.18 17:59:03 -
[151] - Quote
Guillejejeje XDD wrote:but im talking about just move it to main screen isnt it what eve o preview is about? Nope
EOP is about showing ENTIRE and UNMODIFIED EVE interface.
PS I have to ask you to stop discussing such things here. |

Kaleesh
Stille Gewalt Deadly Engineers Enter Rogue Space
10
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Posted - 2017.06.19 16:55:28 -
[152] - Quote
Cool stuff, thank you for contribute your work, this program is mandatory for me and i like to use it  |

Jaantrag
76
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Posted - 2017.06.19 18:52:37 -
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keep up the good work .... but ..
" Thumbnails for non-logged EVE clients are always created in the upper-left screen corner "
any way to change the location ... had it in the opposite corner-Šish in the other monitor ..
EVElopedia < add this to your sig to show u WANT it back
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
25
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Posted - 2017.06.19 23:20:05 -
[154] - Quote
Jaantrag wrote:keep up the good work .... but ..
" Thumbnails for non-logged EVE clients are always created in the upper-left screen corner "
any way to change the location ... had it in the opposite corner-Šish in the other monitor ..
You'd need to wait for one of the next releases. I'll make this configurable.
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Taric Laresh
Bergbau und Co inPanic
0
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Posted - 2017.06.20 16:32:04 -
[155] - Quote
Hi there,
thanks for all the effort that goes into this project.
Is there a way to make the thumbnails bigger? |

Jaantrag
76
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Posted - 2017.06.20 16:48:13 -
[156] - Quote
Taric Laresh wrote:Hi there,
thanks for all the effort that goes into this project.
Is there a way to make the thumbnails bigger?
in the eve-o panel .. under the thumbnail tab ... or u can also drag the thumbnail if u have "show frames" ticked in the overlay tab
EVElopedia < add this to your sig to show u WANT it back
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Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
25
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Posted - 2017.06.20 16:53:10 -
[157] - Quote
Taric Laresh wrote:Hi there,
thanks for all the effort that goes into this project.
Is there a way to make the thumbnails bigger?
From the readme.pdf contained in the .zip installation file 
Quote:Mouse Gestures Mouse gestures are applied to the thumbnail window currently being hovered over.
* Move thumbnail to a new position - Press right mouse button and move the mouse * Adjust thumbnail height - Press both left and right mouse buttons and move the mouse up or down * Adjust thumbnail width - Press both left and mouse buttons and move the mouse left or right
Or using via setting width/height in the main EVE-O Preview dialog |

Phrynohyas Tig-Rah
Black Cat And White Cat
25
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Posted - 2017.06.20 17:25:26 -
[158] - Quote
I've created a topic on the new forums site for EVE-O Preview:
https://meta.eveonline.com/t/eve-o-preview-v3-0-0-multi-client-preview-switcher/4202
Please post your questions, suggestions etc in the new topic, not in this one |

Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
10
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Posted - 2017.06.20 23:19:12 -
[159] - Quote
might be a lock here will be necessary.
"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980**strong text**
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