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Ingols	Posted - 2007.03.02 20:52:00 - [1] Low sec or 0.0 I don't think that players should be able to randomly gank and pod another player without some type of permanent penalty. Pirates that destroy other pilots without having war decs should suffer permanent security loss, plus status loss to the corporation of the pilots they pirate -- unrecoverable if an NPC corp. Pirate corporations should suffer permanent security and faction loss do to the piracy of it's members.
Haffrage Less than Ideal	Posted - 2007.03.02 20:54:00 - [2] PERMANENT? Haha, no. You ever try grinding sec from -5? From -10? If not, don't propose solutions to problems that aren't broken. -----
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.03.02 20:55:00 - [3] The penalty for piracy is tasty tasty carebear tears. And lots of nice modules and iskies. Isn't that penalty enough? Lanfear's Bane. - - - - - - - - - - - Got Killboard?
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.03.02 20:55:00 - [4] I disagree rather strongly. 0.0 is no man's land. If you want concord helping you out stay out of 0.0. They don't watch what goes on there because it's not their territory and you go there at your own risk. Faction standing hits would make some sense in low sec, but it would have to be based on what faction actually likes who you just podded, not their native race. - - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - or automatic signatures - - - - - - - - "186,282 miles per second; It's not just a good idea, it's the law."
Nicholas Barker Caldari Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.02 20:57:00 - [5] why get players stuck there, what if i decide i don't like being -10 anymore (i'm not -10) and want to fly around empire mining and running missions and other boring stuff. If i actually couldn't go to empire to buy things i'd probably quit the game tbh, i think most people with -10 have alts that they have to train to fly the ships they want so they can fly the ship to a 0.4 system or whatever so that they can get in the ship. That's pretty crap imo. -------------------------------------
Forum Alt Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.03.02 20:59:00 - [6] Sadly this is the only game I've ever played that encourages and rewards people for being jerks and penalizes people that don't.
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:01:00 - [7] Originally by: Forum Alt Sadly this is the only game I've ever played that encourages and rewards people for being jerks and penalizes people that don't. No need to prove the point so well with your post. Nice name for a main Lanfear's Bane. - - - - - - - - - - - Got Killboard?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:01:00 - [8] Originally by: Forum Alt Sadly this is the only game I've ever played that encourages and rewards people for being jerks and penalizes people that don't. Care to elaborate on that? Anyway, no there should be no penalties beyond what is already there. -------------------- Verone for President of EVE
Forum Alt Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:05:00 - [9] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Forum Alt Sadly this is the only game I've ever played that encourages and rewards people for being jerks and penalizes people that don't. Care to elaborate on that? Anyway, no there should be no penalties beyond what is already there. No need to really. It's a no-brainer if you give it 5 seconds of thought.
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:06:00 - [10] Originally by: Forum Alt No need to really. It's a no-brainer if you give it 5 seconds of thought. He shoots again! He scores! Lanfear's Bane. - - - - - - - - - - - Got Killboard?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Forum Alt Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Forum Alt Sadly this is the only game I've ever played that encourages and rewards people for being jerks and penalizes people that don't. Care to elaborate on that? Anyway, no there should be no penalties beyond what is already there. No need to really. It's a no-brainer if you give it 5 seconds of thought. I'm sorry, I've tried, but I don't see how the game can even discern between jerks and non-jerks. Hell even I can't, given how brief my interation with 99% of the playerbase is. Although no-one I've encountered has seemed to be a jerk. -------------------- Verone for President of EVE
Spaceman Jack	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:17:00 - [12] Originally by: Forum Alt Sadly this is the only game I've ever played that encourages and rewards people for being jerks and penalizes people that don't. Sadly because you think this game should not be like that... or sadly because there are not ENOUGH games like that? NM, I don't agree with your assessment anyway
Qolde Minmatar Rising Knights SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:20:00 - [13] What you alleged PvE players fail to realize is: There are 99,999 other people in this PVP game. This game is PVP whether you like it or not. If you run missions simply to get some +5 implants, you are taking money from the other guy who is SELLING his +5 implants. You want to go to pirate land in 0.4 or less space so you can make more money? that's fine, just don't think that you can pass through without a player who wants to make more money than you kills you. This game is not about everyone being equal. It's not about it being fair. It's not about justice, nor honor. It's a sandbox with guns, and angry people who are fed up with other cotton candy MMO games. If you want to play in a nice happy place, you can check this game out. Otherwise, put a scrambler and a webber on your Domi that you use to mine in a 0.6 system because those belt rats are so hard, and repeat after me: Yarrrrr!
Papa Murphy Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:32:00 - [14] I restored 16 broken hearts. :3
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Forum Alt Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Forum Alt Sadly this is the only game I've ever played that encourages and rewards people for being jerks and penalizes people that don't. Care to elaborate on that? Anyway, no there should be no penalties beyond what is already there. No need to really. It's a no-brainer if you give it 5 seconds of thought. I'm sorry, I've tried, but I don't see how the game can even discern between jerks and non-jerks. Hell even I can't, given how brief my interation with 99% of the playerbase is. Although no-one I've encountered has seemed to be a jerk. I'm a jerk. I'm also one of my corp's better PvPers and one of the richest (and often luckiest) buggers in said corp. I think he's got a point, the game can detect my douchebaggery, and it gives me officer spawns and badgers full of Zydrine as a reward. Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!
Dr Slice OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:39:00 - [16] Nerf Pirates!!!
Lowanaera Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Forum Alt Sadly this is the only game I've ever played that encourages and rewards people for being jerks and penalizes people that don't. No, what this game does is penalize people who don't work together, don't pay attention, don't improve, and who would rather whine than survive. Said penalty comes in the form of pirates. The rest of us, who actually work together, don't pay that penalty. Instead, we make the pirates pay
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2007.03.02 21:42:00 - [18] Pirates should lose a finger in RL every time they pirate. That'll teach 'em not to blow up imaginary ships in a computer game largely about...blowing up imaginary ships. More seriously, I think there could be somewhat steeper or broader security penalties for pirating in LowSec, although the way things stand now, those would also tend to affect rookies and people trying to anti-pirate. Permanent though? Definitely not. Quote: Low sec or 0.0... Including 0.0 in this is silly. That's the point of 0.0--justice is either player-imposed, or non-existent. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.02 22:06:00 - [19] Originally by: Nicocat I'm a jerk. I'm also one of my corp's better PvPers and one of the richest (and often luckiest) buggers in said corp. I think he's got a point, the game can detect my douchebaggery, and it gives me officer spawns and badgers full of Zydrine as a reward. O RLY? :o -------------------- Verone for President of EVE
SonOTassadar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.03.02 22:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Frug 0.0 is no man's land. If you want concord helping you out stay out of 0.0. They don't watch what goes on there because it's not their territory and you go there at your own risk. On the same token, that should mean your insurance should be void if you lose your ship in 0.0 But that's a different thread entirely. ----- Griffin -- 100,000 ISK ECM - Multispectral Jammer Is -- 20,000 ISK Standard Missile Launcher Is -- 10,000 ISK War target sobbing over losing a fight in his T2 fitted Battleship -- priceless
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.02 22:13:00 - [21] Originally by: SonOTassadar Originally by: Frug 0.0 is no man's land. If you want concord helping you out stay out of 0.0. They don't watch what goes on there because it's not their territory and you go there at your own risk. On the same token, that should mean your insurance should be void if you lose your ship in 0.0 But that's a different thread entirely. No, no it doesn't. Insurance is about business. CONCORD are about laws. Also, insurance is a game mechanic, no insurance company would insure any ship in Eve, they'd go right out of business. -------------------- Verone for President of EVE
Fswd	Posted - 2007.03.02 22:19:00 - [22] Even me being a carebear finds that a bad idea
Emily Spankratchet Minmatar Pragmatics	Posted - 2007.03.02 22:25:00 - [23] Originally by: Forum Alt Sadly this is the only game I've ever played that encourages and rewards people for being jerks and penalizes people that don't. You only ever seem to post on the theme of "piracy is bad". I'm a carebear, but I did bother to find out what the game is like before I started playing. That's why I don't complain (okay, so I grumble quietly) when I get ganked by nasty pirates. Are you on some sort of one-man campaign to rid EvE of PvP? As to the OP's point, being at low security status is, I imagine, a pain in the bum. I live in low-sec, but I have to visit empire to get decent prices on a lot of stuff. If I couldn't visit it, it would be really annoying.
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.03.02 22:28:00 - [24] Originally by: Forum Alt Sadly this is the only game I've ever played that encourages and rewards people for being jerks and penalizes people that don't. Clearly it has failed to identify and penalize at least one. - - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - or automatic signatures - - - - - - - - "186,282 miles per second; It's not just a good idea, it's the law."
Olixia Castitatis Gallente Svefn-G-Englar	Posted - 2007.03.02 22:33:00 - [25] Originally by: Papa Murphy I restored 16 broken hearts. :3 Neer neer I helped CheerBear cheer up 26 broken hearts. ----------------------- <Sig goes here>
MrMann Bastage Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.02 22:35:00 - [26] I'm going to make the huge mistake of responding here in genral to this from my piratey point of view. But the OP posed honest questions so . . . . <puts of flame proof undies> Originally by: Ingols Low sec or 0.0 I don't think that players should be able to randomly gank and pod another player without some type of permanent penalty. Pirates that destroy other pilots without having war decs should suffer permanent security loss, Not sure this would change much. Most -10s plan on staying that way for life. Also, the amount of work it takes to get back to 0.0 from -10 is fairly steep as it is. Also, since the ganking you speak of can be avoided by not entering low sec or 0.0, it is not like you are without a method of avoiding the issue. Thus it seems balanced. Originally by: Ingols plus status loss to the corporation of the pilots they pirate Makes sense to me. Originally by: Ingols -- unrecoverable if an NPC corp. This would be yet another hinderance to people moving on from the NPC Corps. Because of that, I don't think it's a good idea. Originally by: Ingols Pirate corporations should suffer permanent security and faction loss do to the piracy of it's members. No problem with any of this except the permanent part. Eve really is a PvP game however. The entire economy is based on things getting destroyed. Considering the relative, I stress relative, safety of high sec, it seems balance. Non-Pirates are making the wrong arguement IMHO. It's not that Low Sec is too dangerous. It's that it should offer greater rewards to solo players and smaller corps viz-a-viz the risk. Currently, the rewards do not increase from high sec to low sec in line with the increase in risk. <smears self with flame retardant gel> <likes the feel of it and smears it on again> _______________________________________________ Proud Member of the Greater Tribute Security Service.
Forum Alt Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.03.02 23:04:00 - [27] Originally by: Emily Spankratchet Originally by: Forum Alt Sadly this is the only game I've ever played that encourages and rewards people for being jerks and penalizes people that don't. You only ever seem to post on the theme of "piracy is bad". I'm a carebear, but I did bother to find out what the game is like before I started playing. That's why I don't complain (okay, so I grumble quietly) when I get ganked by nasty pirates. Are you on some sort of one-man campaign to rid EvE of PvP? Not at all. PvP is great and a lot of fun. Even combat! It's the piracy that I find distastful. Noob killing for fun. Gate camping. Smack. You get the idea. I'm just generally against people acting like jackasses in and out of RL. Call it a stance for general decency in the little thing I like to call civilization. Encouraging people to bounce around grunting and farting while bashing children with clubs and then rewarding them for it with the kid's bag of candy is generally considered... well... bad. The saddest thing is that there is always a large group of people that rush to do this and then pose proudly for photos. It never ceases to amaze me how despicable some people act when the threat of justice is removed from the equation.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.02 23:07:00 - [28] Piracy = Noob killing, gatecamping and smack? And here was me thinking it involved actual piracy. -------------------- Verone for President of EVE
Anna Grahm Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.02 23:11:00 - [29] Originally by: Crumplecorn Piracy = Noob killing, gatecamping and smack? And here was me thinking it involved actual piracy. Don't delude yourself into thinking that piracy exists in Eve Online. I am NOT an alt!
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.02 23:18:00 - [30] Originally by: Anna Grahm Originally by: Crumplecorn Piracy = Noob killing, gatecamping and smack? And here was me thinking it involved actual piracy. Don't delude yourself into thinking that piracy exists in Eve Online. Funny, I thought I saw a video recently about a pirate corp turning mercenary. Must have been noob-gankers who are now being paid to PvP I suppose. -------------------- Verone for President of EVE

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