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Entilzah Valen
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lireil Crow Your Lines are falling. Your Toops are out of isk. Your Dev friends may still be helping you but not for lone, or they will lose there jobs. Your titans are going to be the first to be lost in a fight, because the way you use them. Your DD's arnt working anymore, you have to use both of them at the same time to even get any kills anymore. Your aliies are bracking. Your hiding in NPC startions in Delve. Your hiding when ever your caps or titans are ready to fight.
I lol'ed.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:39:00 -
[212]
Edited by: KIATolon on 04/03/2007 08:37:20
Originally by: The Jok3r Hi SUAS back when I fist heard of you your fame came for being the only FC in[5] to loose a fleet fight against FE. I bet the goons don't second guess your leadership desicions despite how retarded they might seem. But with skillpoints come experience and knoledge and soon the will be saying this guy is retarded just like FE did.
The five lost quite a few fleet battles against FE, but whatever. If I get kicked out of GS I can make an alt and smack them on the forums. Oh no, I post my knoledge with my main.
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arjun
Die Apokalyptischen Reiter Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:40:00 -
[213]
Edited by: arjun on 04/03/2007 08:41:35 think if your posts make your own side look ridiculous here please. yes you too lyrell
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:49:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Gods Coldblood I have to say this thread has some decent and honest information in it, good job too all.. Its good too see bob doing really well at this point in time and should be really interesting to see what happens next!! LV situation doesnĘt look good at this point in time.. On the up side the core of LV is still very much alive and strength is still there waiting for the right moments too bounce back!! I take my hat off too some of the opposed alliances for their pos warfare display (RA), but the numbers have been to great for any one alliance to deal with.. The current situation could well help LV as now its time to think about fighting together :p ..
Looking forward to some more action and see you all on the battlefield..
Who do you really want to win???
POST WITH YOUR MAIN OR STFU
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.04 08:51:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Gods Coldblood I have to say this thread has some decent and honest information in it, good job too all.. Its good too see bob doing really well at this point in time and should be really interesting to see what happens next!! LV situation doesnĘt look good at this point in time.. On the up side the core of LV is still very much alive and strength is still there waiting for the right moments too bounce back!! I take my hat off too some of the opposed alliances for their pos warfare display (RA), but the numbers have been to great for any one alliance to deal with.. The current situation could well help LV as now its time to think about fighting together :p ..
Looking forward to some more action and see you all on the battlefield..
Who do you really want to win???
Bad people management, and shafting allies has a way of coming back to bite you. LV systematically abandoned their allies, including GS. That's why they're dying.
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nico wurz250
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:13:00 -
[216]
A new record for EVE, the POS spawning war.
Titans are not for fun in EVE, they are boring. - |

D1ck Jones
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:14:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Dragerest
Originally by: Marko Zhang Edited by: Marko Zhang on 04/03/2007 04:51:14
Originally by: 0raven0 bob/friends don't carebear, we only PvP.. In the mean time the belts get thick, and the rats get a chance for better ships and setup complexes :p
Right. BoB didn't have to mine at all for those Titans. They just snapped their fingers and they appeared out of thin air. Actually, that's probably precisely what happened. 
 sounds about right.
yep,much easier to belive in conspiricy theories than to look in the mirror and admit how badly you have been beaten by them. In fact, I havent seen any cryptic one-liners from your toddler in chief in some time.
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D1ck Jones
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:16:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Kirex did you invlude your nyx BPO in the stat5s? ;p
I wasnt aware that killmails now distinguished between bpo and bpc, is this a new feature?
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Tod Klemp
Gallente K-Street Project
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:17:00 -
[219]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Lorth You know in order to paint any pilot in BOB as being a cheater, your going to have to convince me that they knew who T20 was, and that the BPO's were fake. The conversation would have had to have gone like this.
"Hi, I'm a dev, and I spawned these BPO's for my self, now I'm giving them to you"
While I'm willing to believe that anything is possible, that idea borders on the insane. I know when writing this by and large its going to fall on deaf ears, but I can't imagine any right thinking person coming to the conclusion that BOB directors knew the BPO's were fake, which is the only reasonable way to brand them as they have been.
You know in order to paint yourself as a human being, your going to have to convince me that you actually exist, and that the you're not just a college AI project by a slightly less intelligent college student. The conversation would have had to have gone like this.
"Hi, I'm really open minded and the fact that there is more than enough circumstantial evidence to at least arouse suspicion that would be against my programming"
While I'm willing to believe that anything is possible, that idea borders on the insane. I know when writing this by and large its going to fall on deaf ears, but I can't imagine any right thinking person coming to the conclusion that there is any possibility I'm not a broken propaganda record that wont keep looping over and over.
did you see the bpo's he spawned?
Have you bought any other characters off ebay lately suas?
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Tod Klemp
Gallente K-Street Project
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:20:00 -
[220]
Edited by: Tod Klemp on 04/03/2007 09:16:13
Originally by: KIATolon Edited by: KIATolon on 04/03/2007 08:37:20
Originally by: The Jok3r Hi SUAS back when I fist heard of you your fame came for being the only FC in[5] to loose a fleet fight against FE. I bet the goons don't second guess your leadership desicions despite how retarded they might seem. But with skillpoints come experience and knoledge and soon the will be saying this guy is retarded just like FE did.
The five lost quite a few fleet battles against FE, but whatever. If I get kicked out of GS I can buy another chacter off EBAY and smack them on the forums. Oh no, I post my knoledge with my main.
fixed that for ya
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GLok
Caldari Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:57:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Tod Klemp Edited by: Tod Klemp on 04/03/2007 09:16:13
Originally by: KIATolon Edited by: KIATolon on 04/03/2007 08:37:20
Originally by: The Jok3r Hi SUAS back when I fist heard of you your fame came for being the only FC in[5] to loose a fleet fight against FE. I bet the goons don't second guess your leadership desicions despite how retarded they might seem. But with skillpoints come experience and knoledge and soon the will be saying this guy is retarded just like FE did.
The five lost quite a few fleet battles against FE, but whatever. If I get kicked out of GS I can buy another chacter off EBAY and smack them on the forums. Oh no, I post my knoledge with my main.
fixed that for ya
Oh jeeze, keep going, your intelligence is beyond my viable comprehensation. --------------------
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Entilzah Valen Shut the **** up about the Nyx BPO.
FFS. "Nyx BPO! Nyx BPO!"
If I had 17 Billion to replace the Nyx BPO, guess what, all I have to do is go to the proper place, spend the 17 Billion and I INSTANTLY have the BPO back.
However, your Dreads will take much longer to replace.
Not much longer, as there's quite a few Dreads on sale in empire, too.
I notice Sir Molle didn't show battleships losses, I guess they're a bit less one-sided... ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types. |

Topaz Skydiver
Minmatar Narrative Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:05:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Brunswick2
Originally by: Skrypt Perhaps I missed something but LV certainly isn't out of this. Our stations? Perhaps. But stations don't kill dreads. :)
Neither does LV...
Just as a remark: LV still 2365 members, about the same number as when I was checking it the last two times some weeks ago ... They can still fight against the coalition without stations, imho they can do it even better, because they can decide, when and where to attack, and then have a comeback in conquerable space later. We'll see. LV is far from being defeated yet.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Minmatar Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:11:00 -
[224]
Always, what's more important than what is written is what's not written. So far, in this writer's opinion the war against MC-BoB hasn't really started yet. There's been a lot of probing on all sides, but most of the savagery has been in the RA/Goons/TCF vs. LV front. Now that LV has been knocked out, my opinion is that consolidation will continue in the southeast with some raids and reprisals until the 'coalition' is ready to move forward in force again.
But as I said, what's not written. Logistically, so far MC-BoB has the advantage. They themselves have not suffered serious losses, and their core systems (some of the most lucrative in the game) are solid. What works against them though, is that they have hostile forces on 3 sides. LV collapsed before BoB could deal a telling blow against the invaders from the North. If they could have knocked the North out with heavy losses, this war would be decidedly tilted in BoB's favor. Instead, they still have the united NAPpies in the fight from the north. The southern 'coalition' threatens the SE, and BoB's pet mercs are matched against a force that is easily their equal in AAA.
The unwritten facts are that BoB & friends are numerically outnumbered on all fronts by angry mobs bent on their complete destruction. Some like the RA and Goons will undoubtedly fight to the last newbie frigate and while dismissed as rabble by some, they seem to have good resources. There is no way I ever see either of them quitting the fight under any circumstances. BoB has the advantage of defending an area they hand-picked to claim SOV over. They know the choke points and their regions are very lucrative for their tenants to exploit.
BoB can't be everywhere, however. Their numerical disadvantage leaves them open to simple blobbing. Now that the 'feature' on how BoB miraculously recovers from nodecrashes is widespread knowledge, their ability to magically destroy much larger attacking blobs arrayed against them will be much lesser. People like K(censored)men are exposing all of BoB's tricks and as a result, their enemies are learning to recognize and counter them. By tricks, I'm not talking illegal chicanery, I mean carefully researched and tested use of game mechanics, which BoB has proved masterful at. BoB also still has the advantage of possessing a driven cadre of some of the most battle-tested and experienced (SP-wise) pilots in the game.
I am 3 months into this game as a paying customer. I have followed the game for approximately a year through friends and third-party forums. You'd be surprised how many people are fans of EVE but do not play, and how closely the politics, battles, and personalities are followed outside of the game. This is what brought me into it, and I am super glad I did at the time I chose to, because this looks to be an awesome spring and summer coming up for EVE. I freely admit to not having 'all the facts' at any given time. I further freely admit that my observations are likely flawed in some respects, and that if I was leading an alliance or corp based on them, we'd possibly be mining Veld next week in Rens. I am 'for' the underdogs in this case, all the forces arrayed against BoB & friends, because I believe they were getting too strong and need to be knocked back before they became too strong for anyone ever to overcome. But I'm also not afraid to admit what's what, and if BoB wins out, you won't hear me crying HAXX. Good fights and happy flying to all involved. And sorry for the wall of text -- once I get going, I go...
[I am not in any way speaking for my corp or alliance, both of which are probably going to put my genitalia in a blender for posting here]
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:17:00 -
[225]
Nice write-up from Molle. Mind you, not the kind of post normally comes from him, mind you. 
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:26:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Tod Klemp Edited by: Tod Klemp on 04/03/2007 09:16:13
Originally by: KIATolon Edited by: KIATolon on 04/03/2007 08:37:20
Originally by: The Jok3r Hi SUAS back when I fist heard of you your fame came for being the only FC in[5] to loose a fleet fight against FE. I bet the goons don't second guess your leadership desicions despite how retarded they might seem. But with skillpoints come experience and knoledge and soon the will be saying this guy is retarded just like FE did.
The five lost quite a few fleet battles against FE, but whatever. If I get kicked out of GS I can buy another chacter off EBAY and smack them on the forums. Oh no, I post my knoledge with my main.
fixed that for ya
I've obviously annoyed you enough for you to feel that you need to bring RL into a game. I've been petitioned more times for that by my enemies than your main has lost regions to us, however I'm still here. Perhaps Lorth can lecture you about making accusations without evidence?
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:31:00 -
[227]
Edited by: Plutoinum on 04/03/2007 10:29:26 Edited by: Plutoinum on 04/03/2007 10:27:30
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Some like the RA and Goons will undoubtedly fight to the last newbie frigate and while dismissed as rabble by some
I wouldn't bet on it that RA themselves go west against BoB. At least, not because they get an orgasm just by the thought of beating BoB, unlike others. RA are strategists, so I think they'll do what's best for them. They won't waste billions in capitals just to appear on some BoB killmails, except it pays somehow back to them.
Their main objective was to beat the coalition that was against them. That's why they invited Goonfleet, TCF and Imperium in the first place, not to kill BoB. ___________ Muuuhhh !!! |

Minmatar Citizen 138031
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:42:00 -
[228]
Actually if you check the bob killboard they have had a positive Battleship ratio all the way through this war, except the one day they got dooms dayed by D2's second titan. Although I try to search losses by alliance it doesn't let me I think its broken, which is why there is probs no BS stats.
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IWasMadeForThis
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:52:00 -
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I just logged onto their kb and it seems to me on their frontpage they lost twice as many as they killed yesterday 
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Gods Coldblood
The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.04 10:59:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Gods Coldblood I have to say this thread has some decent and honest information in it, good job too all.. Its good too see bob doing really well at this point in time and should be really interesting to see what happens next!! LV situation doesnĘt look good at this point in time.. On the up side the core of LV is still very much alive and strength is still there waiting for the right moments too bounce back!! I take my hat off too some of the opposed alliances for their pos warfare display (RA), but the numbers have been to great for any one alliance to deal with.. The current situation could well help LV as now its time to think about fighting together :p ..
Looking forward to some more action and see you all on the battlefield..
Who do you really want to win???
POST WITH YOUR MAIN OR STFU
How old are you? Do you want a cookie, and are u taller enough to get on this ride?
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Faaip De Oiad
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Posted - 2007.03.04 11:15:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Entilzah Valen Shut the **** up about the Nyx BPO.
FFS. "Nyx BPO! Nyx BPO!"
If I had 17 Billion to replace the Nyx BPO, guess what, all I have to do is go to the proper place, spend the 17 Billion and I INSTANTLY have the BPO back.
However, your Dreads will take much longer to replace.
Just wanted to assist you all in pulling your heads out of your asses for a few moments so that you see the light of day and stop playing the "Nyx" card.
It's crap like this that makes me doubt the ability of the northern bloc to actually be successful in the long term, the failure to stay in touch with the reality of circumstance.
Flame away!
calm down again 
let's take a look at the "nyx situation" ..
possibility A - it was a BPO ... so they are 18bio down the drain. 18bio that could be invested in other stuff - like POSes + fuel, fleetfitted BS and so on ... yes, if it was a BPO it can be replaced easily - open market and buy it.
possibility B - it was a BPC ... they are still 3bio down the drain (unless they are doing the copying themselves - but then they could sell the copy instead replacing the lost one) ... and remember - copying a mothership BP takes a few weeks (or was it months? ... not sure don't have a clue about BP-copying) .. in other words - they either have to buy a new MS BPC (which might not be that easy considering the limited availability) or a BPO or their MS production gets significant delayed. oh .. and 3bio isk are still 1 nice fitted dreadnought or 3 crappy fitted carriers.  ___________________
-Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
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Hast
Refused.
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Posted - 2007.03.04 12:27:00 -
[232]
It was a bpc.
Aeon cried abit about it, then got over it.
Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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s4mp3r0r
ZiTek Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.04 12:35:00 -
[233]
Edited by: s4mp3r0r on 04/03/2007 12:32:02 incredible how molle can still post after so many people petioning him and ofcourse no response by ISD.
Quote: I wish i could tell you more but I was sworn to absolute secrecy!
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Uuve Savisaalo
Umbra Congregatio
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Posted - 2007.03.04 16:55:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke
I am 3 months into this game as a paying customer. I have followed the game for approximately a year through friends and third-party forums. You'd be surprised how many people are fans of EVE but do not play, and how closely the politics, battles, and personalities are followed outside of the game. This is what brought me into it, and I am super glad I did at the time I chose to, because this looks to be an awesome spring and summer coming up for EVE.
A very nice and accurate summary of events and projectons, Ponderous. In a forum where anything from posturing to outright misinformative propaganda is the norm, i find it refreshing to see someone trying to look at the situation with due objectivity.
I think in the end our whole goal here is to pose challenge to one another and have fun - some of my friends in bob are sure to agree with that assessment. Whoever 'wins' this and what ever the victory conditions you've set for yourselves may be, the coming months should prove most entertaining for the lot of us.
and that is why eve is the best offering on the market right now in my opinion.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.04 17:00:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Plutoinum
I wouldn't bet on it that RA themselves go west against BoB. At least, not because they get an orgasm just by the thought of beating BoB, unlike others. RA are strategists, so I think they'll do what's best for them. They won't waste billions in capitals just to appear on some BoB killmails, except it pays somehow back to them.
Their main objective was to beat the coalition that was against them. That's why they invited Goonfleet, TCF and Imperium in the first place, not to kill BoB.
LV tried to remove RA from 0.0 BoB tried to remove Goons from 0.0 Goons help RA remove LV from 0.0 RA _____________________________
Fill in the blank. 
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.03.04 17:06:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Gods Coldblood
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: Gods Coldblood I have to say this thread has some decent and honest information in it, good job too all.. Its good too see bob doing really well at this point in time and should be really interesting to see what happens next!! LV situation doesnĘt look good at this point in time.. On the up side the core of LV is still very much alive and strength is still there waiting for the right moments too bounce back!! I take my hat off too some of the opposed alliances for their pos warfare display (RA), but the numbers have been to great for any one alliance to deal with.. The current situation could well help LV as now its time to think about fighting together :p ..
Looking forward to some more action and see you all on the battlefield..
Who do you really want to win???
POST WITH YOUR MAIN OR STFU
How old are you? Do you want a cookie, and are u taller enough to get on this ride?
Old, and educated enough to use semi correct grammar and spelling.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.03.04 17:07:00 -
[237]
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Plutoinum
I wouldn't bet on it that RA themselves go west against BoB. At least, not because they get an orgasm just by the thought of beating BoB, unlike others. RA are strategists, so I think they'll do what's best for them. They won't waste billions in capitals just to appear on some BoB killmails, except it pays somehow back to them.
Their main objective was to beat the coalition that was against them. That's why they invited Goonfleet, TCF and Imperium in the first place, not to kill BoB.
LV tried to remove RA from 0.0 BoB tried to remove Goons from 0.0 Goons help RA remove LV from 0.0 RA _____________________________
Fill in the blank. 
LV tried to remove RA from 0.0 BoB tried to remove Goons from 0.0 Goons help RA remove LV from 0.0 RA goes to jita to mine veldspar and eat pie? 
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smaktak
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Posted - 2007.03.04 17:10:00 -
[238]
Well the way i see the war going is this
Bob has done fantastic so far, defending their allies on all fronts , but and its a big but - lol (no pun intended)
I cant wait for when the Eastern Coalition go to Querious to play (thats if they do) Goonies, TCF, AAA, Curse, etc - It gonna be madness, and very hard to defend against It dont matter how good BOB are, The ISK,s are gonna start hurting soon thru losses
I foresee the Coalition slowly but surely wearing the Alliance down, system by system - OH THE CARNAGE  with a final stand by the Alliance somewhere in Delve, Perhaps even with some BOB friends there to help out (see the last stand of the Dominion on Cardassia- lol)
However this aint gonna happen for a few months i think Logistics will eventually work out, i see the Coalition shipyards turning out ships at 110% As for the Alliance, i dont know - but - they better be or its over for them
This is my own personal take on the war and do not reflect on any side
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.03.04 17:30:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Shadowsword
I notice Sir Molle didn't show battleships losses, I guess they're a bit less one-sided...
Since I'm a stats ***** I went and looked
Battleships 823 killed 238 lost.
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Hel Kali
Caldari ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.04 18:21:00 -
[240]
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Plutoinum
I wouldn't bet on it that RA themselves go west against BoB. At least, not because they get an orgasm just by the thought of beating BoB, unlike others. RA are strategists, so I think they'll do what's best for them. They won't waste billions in capitals just to appear on some BoB killmails, except it pays somehow back to them.
Their main objective was to beat the coalition that was against them. That's why they invited Goonfleet, TCF and Imperium in the first place, not to kill BoB.
LV tried to remove RA from 0.0 BoB tried to remove Goons from 0.0 Goons help RA remove LV from 0.0 RA _____________________________
Fill in the blank. 
LV tried to remove RA from 0.0 BoB tried to remove Goons from 0.0 Goons help RA remove LV from 0.0 RA and coalition remove LV and Bob from 0.0
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